"70% math play" system tracking

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  • therber2
    Restricted User
    • 12-22-08
    • 3715

    #211
    ****ing lazy Cavs
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    • willpies
      SBR High Roller
      • 12-18-08
      • 128

      #212
      Continually it seems that there are no plays. Perhaps the system is all knowing and doesn't want us to loose money. Everyday seems hard. It is. Houston i think will beat Hornets. Unless Peja Plays any thoughts.? I think Houston has too much quality to be denied victory. They can shoot 3 all day and post up with big yao who is also great from the line. Hornets only have Paul i think. Please share thoughts...
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      • ingem64
        SBR High Roller
        • 10-17-06
        • 118

        #213
        Why Detroit is not for play in the system today?

        Detroit -10

        I think:
        577-103=474
        474:20=23
        23+3=26
        26-10=16
        .... and 16 is for play!
        Is it true?
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        • nick2060
          SBR MVP
          • 10-28-08
          • 1051

          #214
          double digit spread
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          • maylo
            SBR Rookie
            • 12-26-08
            • 4

            #215
            any play for tomorrow? what about Orlando -9
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            • willpies
              SBR High Roller
              • 12-18-08
              • 128

              #216
              IM thinking about a new system entirely based on trends and patterns... Basically i dont want to bet on who i think will win because i usually get it wrong or 50/50
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              • Broncos9798
                SBR High Roller
                • 12-02-08
                • 236

                #217
                Originally posted by willpies
                IM thinking about a new system entirely based on trends and patterns... Basically i dont want to bet on who i think will win because i usually get it wrong or 50/50
                Im building a dart board that I feel will hit at least 70% of games or more....ill start the thread
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                • willpies
                  SBR High Roller
                  • 12-18-08
                  • 128

                  #218
                  Assholeeeeee
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                  • mundane
                    SBR MVP
                    • 02-25-08
                    • 3592

                    #219
                    12/27

                    1 play Orlando -9 at Minnesota

                    ytd: 9-1

                    i dont think we did but if we missed anything the last 3 days, let me know.

                    please check below. don't forget to read the accompanying 'notes'.
                    lemme know if there are any mistakes. im only human.




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                    • DevilDog
                      SBR High Roller
                      • 12-27-08
                      • 190

                      #220
                      I have followed this thread with great interest because I am a HUGE believer in systems....systems that actually work and this appears to be one of them.

                      I have seen a number of people concerned with WHY the system works and really...that doesn't matter! When a person goes to create a system they can do it one of two ways or both ways.

                      The first way is to use numbers and "thoughts" that would seem to be a way to lead to picking winners. The second way is to put all the data together you can get, the more the merrier, and just start running results with numbers you come up with. Then you keep doing that until you get what you need.

                      With systems sometimes there are no rhyme or reason why they work....they just do! Finding statistical trends or number calculations that produce winners can take a long time to do. Fortunately with spreadsheet programs you can run a lot of numbers fast...the key is knowing how to use them.

                      So the proof is in the pudding. I have a feeling that this system, which HAS been around for awhile, will do quite good. Will it hit 70%? Maybe, maybe not. Does it need to hit that high of a percentage for its users to do really well? Of course not! Even if it hit only 56% or 57% it would be terrific because of the fact that there is nothing to really do but plug in some numbers!

                      Couple a system like that with sound money management and many of you could eventually quit your day jobs. I am not sure how many of you really understand that even at 57% you can make a LOT of money either betting a system that gives you a lot of plays and hits that percentage...or betting a lot of money on each game with a system that gives you just a few plays a week. Either way, follow it and learn money management.
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                      • Rio DiNero
                        SBR MVP
                        • 11-03-08
                        • 2010

                        #221
                        Mundane, can you please show me how you got the final numbers in the Char/NJN game and the MIL/DET game. In both these games team with lower win % is favorite. I think the program you are using is not coming up with correct final # in these games. ex: CAR/NJ= (483-367=116)(116/20=5.8)(5.8-3=2.8)(2.8+2.5=5.3)or (367-483=-116)(-116/20=-5.8)(-5.8+3=-2.8)(-2.8-2.5=-5.3). You either come up with a final # of 5.3 or -5.3. Which is correct?
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                        • pubster77
                          SBR High Roller
                          • 04-25-08
                          • 215

                          #222
                          Originally posted by DevilDog
                          I have followed this thread with great interest because I am a HUGE believer in systems....systems that actually work and this appears to be one of them.

                          I have seen a number of people concerned with WHY the system works and really...that doesn't matter! When a person goes to create a system they can do it one of two ways or both ways.

                          The first way is to use numbers and "thoughts" that would seem to be a way to lead to picking winners. The second way is to put all the data together you can get, the more the merrier, and just start running results with numbers you come up with. Then you keep doing that until you get what you need.

                          With systems sometimes there are no rhyme or reason why they work....they just do! Finding statistical trends or number calculations that produce winners can take a long time to do. Fortunately with spreadsheet programs you can run a lot of numbers fast...the key is knowing how to use them.

                          So the proof is in the pudding. I have a feeling that this system, which HAS been around for awhile, will do quite good. Will it hit 70%? Maybe, maybe not. Does it need to hit that high of a percentage for its users to do really well? Of course not! Even if it hit only 56% or 57% it would be terrific because of the fact that there is nothing to really do but plug in some numbers!

                          Couple a system like that with sound money management and many of you could eventually quit your day jobs. I am not sure how many of you really understand that even at 57% you can make a LOT of money either betting a system that gives you a lot of plays and hits that percentage...or betting a lot of money on each game with a system that gives you just a few plays a week. Either way, follow it and learn money management.
                          I think most people understand. Maybe im wrong.

                          but if you can make a bet with positive expected value then you will win long term relative to your bet size and #of bets.

                          ie. you will win more money going 57-43 than going 7-3. but of course you would win most going 70-30 =)
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                          • losturmarbles
                            SBR MVP
                            • 07-01-08
                            • 4604

                            #223
                            Originally posted by Rio DiNero
                            Mundane, can you please show me how you got the final numbers in the Char/NJN game and the MIL/DET game. In both these games team with lower win % is favorite. I think the program you are using is not coming up with correct final # in these games. ex: CAR/NJ= (483-367=116)(116/20=5.8)(5.8-3=2.8)(2.8+2.5=5.3)or (367-483=-116)(-116/20=-5.8)(-5.8+3=-2.8)(-2.8-2.5=-5.3). You either come up with a final # of 5.3 or -5.3. Which is correct?
                            you take the difference between the numbers

                            in other words the amount between the two numbers, that amount is always going to be positive
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                            • Meestermike
                              SBR Sharp
                              • 11-21-06
                              • 329

                              #224
                              GAME OKA vs. WSH
                              win loss
                              HOME team 4 23 3 <- enter -3 (away) / +3 (home)
                              AWAY team 3 27 -7 <- enter the spread
                              -1.59 NO PLAY ON THE SELECTED TEAM
                              PLAY THE OTHER TEAM ATS

                              calculations 0.148 0.100 2.41
                              5.41 -1.59
                              Below should say OK! Otherwise the system is fubar!
                              OK!
                              OK!

                              There is a play on Oklahoma at +7 now I believe
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                              • DevilDog
                                SBR High Roller
                                • 12-27-08
                                • 190

                                #225
                                Pubster, you would think people would understand that but many I know of don't! It is a numbers game! Unless you can bet a LOT per game you are MUCH better off playing modest amounts and playing a lot of games if you can hit over 54%. I don't have time to show the numbers but it is pretty impressive.

                                I know of guys all the time that brag about hitting 60% of their bets...but the amount of bets is so incredibly small. You are MUCH better off hitting 57% or even 56% and betting a pretty good volume of games. In the end run you will make much more money....it seems really obvious but I have friends that haven't quite gotten it.
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                                • nick2060
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 10-28-08
                                  • 1051

                                  #226
                                  meester mike, firstly oklahoma played yesterday so its a no play, but you need to lose the "0." and then do the math for the winning percentages just so you know
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                                  • therber2
                                    Restricted User
                                    • 12-22-08
                                    • 3715

                                    #227
                                    Welp, I'm putting faith in this system, and putting some more into orlando at the half right now.

                                    I hope they cover. I put tooo much on this game. lol.
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                                    • willpies
                                      SBR High Roller
                                      • 12-18-08
                                      • 128

                                      #228
                                      Well Orlando wins and the system wins. Although Minnesota did play yesterday... But that did not disadvantage Orlando. We should include it or not? I think so.
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                                      • mundane
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 02-25-08
                                        • 3592

                                        #229
                                        for tracking purposes, here were the two games that we're waiting for the lines earlier. amounted to NO PLAYS! *see notes on utah/houston game.



                                        12/27 result 1-0

                                        ytd: 10-1 90.91%


                                        12/28 calculations. see notes on games waiting for the lines as they have possibilities to be a system play/s but i might not be here to point it out.

                                        please check everything. don't forget to read the accompanying 'notes'.
                                        lemme know if there are any mistakes. im only human.




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                                        • Pensinger1
                                          Restricted User
                                          • 12-23-08
                                          • 505

                                          #230
                                          Mundane,

                                          Thank you for your help on tracking this system- much appreciated. I've been following quietly. However, i do think you missed a play last night, but please correct me if i'm wrong.

                                          In the "notes section" of the okc/wash game, you noted that the WASH/OKC game was a NO PLAY because OKC had gone back2back, yet OKC was NOT the selected team.. WASH was.. it was WASH -6. This actually helps WASH as we all know (and the system does not say anything about the non-selected team playing back2back). It seems like to me, this should have been a play and, needless to say, would have been another win for the system.

                                          Am i wrong?
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                                          • roasthawg
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 11-09-07
                                            • 2990

                                            #231
                                            Originally posted by Pensinger1
                                            Mundane,

                                            Thank you for your help on tracking this system- much appreciated. I've been following quietly. However, i do think you missed a play last night, but please correct me if i'm wrong.

                                            In the "notes section" of the okc/wash game, you noted that the WASH/OKC game was a NO PLAY because OKC had gone back2back, yet OKC was NOT the selected team.. WASH was.. it was WASH -6. This actually helps WASH as we all know (and the system does not say anything about the non-selected team playing back2back). It seems like to me, this should have been a play and, needless to say, would have been another win for the system.

                                            Am i wrong?
                                            This isn't my system but I'll chime in anyways...no you are not wrong, for the non selected team to have played a back to back is an advantage for the selected team and hence makes it an obvious play. Chalk it up as an error due to everyone figuring the system out and count it as a system win.
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                                            • i_pick_winners1
                                              SBR Wise Guy
                                              • 01-26-08
                                              • 624

                                              #232
                                              Mundane, I must give credit where credit is due - I'm 4-0 on this system and I love it. Thanks for posting.
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                                              • mundane
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 02-25-08
                                                • 3592

                                                #233
                                                Originally posted by Pensinger1
                                                Mundane,

                                                Thank you for your help on tracking this system- much appreciated. I've been following quietly. However, i do think you missed a play last night, but please correct me if i'm wrong.

                                                In the "notes section" of the okc/wash game, you noted that the WASH/OKC game was a NO PLAY because OKC had gone back2back, yet OKC was NOT the selected team.. WASH was.. it was WASH -6. This actually helps WASH as we all know (and the system does not say anything about the non-selected team playing back2back). It seems like to me, this should have been a play and, needless to say, would have been another win for the system.

                                                Am i wrong?
                                                it was a no play for wiz to begin with but the line moved against the wiz, -6.5 (and higher) making okc +6.5 a play (play other team ats) but since okc played the night before, it's a no play!
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                                                • mundane
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 02-25-08
                                                  • 3592

                                                  #234
                                                  Originally posted by Rio DiNero
                                                  Mundane, can you please show me how you got the final numbers in the Char/NJN game and the MIL/DET game. In both these games team with lower win % is favorite. I think the program you are using is not coming up with correct final # in these games. ex: CAR/NJ= (483-367=116)(116/20=5.8)(5.8-3=2.8)(2.8+2.5=5.3)or (367-483=-116)(-116/20=-5.8)(-5.8+3=-2.8)(-2.8-2.5=-5.3). You either come up with a final # of 5.3 or -5.3. Which is correct?
                                                  selected team is always the team with the better winning %. this way, u get a positive number to work with.
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                                                  • porkchop817
                                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                                    • 11-29-08
                                                    • 531

                                                    #235
                                                    the line opened up at the greek as dallas+2

                                                    this makes dallas a play. pound that ****er boys
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                                                    • peterpan19
                                                      Restricted User
                                                      • 11-02-08
                                                      • 3377

                                                      #236
                                                      porkchop
                                                      I dont see the dallas game at greek ? already offline ?
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                                                      • willpies
                                                        SBR High Roller
                                                        • 12-18-08
                                                        • 128

                                                        #237
                                                        Yeah the line has gone
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                                                        • AdaBarber
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 12-05-08
                                                          • 4424

                                                          #238
                                                          Originally posted by willpies
                                                          Yeah the line has gone
                                                          Its funny how the possible plays are offline right now. You think the bookies know about this sytem?
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                                                          • Turkish
                                                            SBR Rookie
                                                            • 12-26-08
                                                            • 20

                                                            #239
                                                            is dallas todays choice? dallas-clippers?
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                                                            • SportsLockPicks
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 12-03-07
                                                              • 3386

                                                              #240
                                                              any plays today? i don't feel like doing the math..i've been doing enough in NFL
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                                                              • strybie
                                                                SBR Wise Guy
                                                                • 12-08-08
                                                                • 588

                                                                #241
                                                                NO -2 should be a play, so you can buy some points and play them -2 (although think they cover -4.5 also). But when u follow the system play NO at -2

                                                                Also DEN +1

                                                                GAME Denver @ New York Knickswinlossselected team1911-3<- enter -3 (away) / +3 (home)other team11171<- enter the spread10,02PLAYSEE ABOVE FOR PLAY OR NO PLAY
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                                                                • peterpan19
                                                                  Restricted User
                                                                  • 11-02-08
                                                                  • 3377

                                                                  #242
                                                                  dal +1 back at the greek
                                                                  get it now
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                                                                  • Bluehorseshoe
                                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                                    • 07-13-06
                                                                    • 15018

                                                                    #243
                                                                    Originally posted by peterpan19
                                                                    dal +1 back at the greek
                                                                    get it now
                                                                    Dirk is not playing.
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                                                                    • peterpan19
                                                                      Restricted User
                                                                      • 11-02-08
                                                                      • 3377

                                                                      #244
                                                                      but dal only fav by 1 ?? mhh....
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                                                                      • SportsLockPicks
                                                                        SBR MVP
                                                                        • 12-03-07
                                                                        • 3386

                                                                        #245
                                                                        mundane knows whats what, so MUNDANE? are you saying there are any plays today...if so, pm them to me
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