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  • willpies
    SBR High Roller
    • 12-18-08
    • 128

    #176
    Yeah im thinking if the favourite is a bit behind at half time and if thats a percentage of the original handicap it might be a play. Ill work on it.
    But we cant change the rules in this thread i aggree as well.
    Carmello isnt playing so there are NO plays today.
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    • pubster77
      SBR High Roller
      • 04-25-08
      • 215

      #177
      I dont think there are any plays for tomorrow.
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      • SportsLockPicks
        SBR MVP
        • 12-03-07
        • 3386

        #178
        Originally posted by pubster77
        I completely agree. We cant properly test this system if we allow exceptions etc.

        but maybe we can test 3/4 systems at the same time.

        Define exactly what the variation is and keep track of it in a seperate thread. Maybe we can make some good discoveries =)

        good call...whats on the slate for tomorrow..my head is cooked from trying to cap the Poinsettia Bowl and i don't feel like doing any math.
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        • willpies
          SBR High Roller
          • 12-18-08
          • 128

          #179
          I like Rios idea
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          • SportsLockPicks
            SBR MVP
            • 12-03-07
            • 3386

            #180
            any system plays...or did anyone do the calculations for tomorrows NBA card?
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            • therber2
              Restricted User
              • 12-22-08
              • 3715

              #181
              Thanks Mundane for keeping this up to date. You could be on to something....or it could just be dumb luck. I think the system is good because it is a blend of stats. and filters, but as far as the system goes....here is my two cents:

              The home and away thing seems too have too much weight in the equation or I think if it is going to be in there it should be dependent on a ratio of each team's home and away record or something like that. Either that or it should just be taken out and used as a filter.

              Again, this is my two cents, I don't expect a change. It is just a suggestion to everyone following this system. Mundane, thank you again for doing this and remaining consistent.

              By the way, I checked for plays tomorrow. There are none so far. We'll see.
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              • pubster77
                SBR High Roller
                • 04-25-08
                • 215

                #182
                no plays as far as i can see either.
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                • strictlywinners
                  Restricted User
                  • 07-17-07
                  • 3377

                  #183
                  System is very good, Sportslock it doesn't look like there are any plays tommorrow, from me looking very quickly and this is not complex math it is very simple, get difference of win percentages divide by 20 and 3 to home team, or -3 away, then subtract or add spread, very simple each game only takes a couple seconds you can do it in your head. Take Cavs tommoroow get it now though, lastly what are your thoughts on the total of Hornets Nets, I think I'm leaning strongly towards the under, after all the suckers get on the over and drive it up about 3 points.
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                  • mgeclipse
                    SBR Rookie
                    • 12-23-08
                    • 7

                    #184
                    Mr Mundane just want to thank you for posting and maintaining this calculations. I've been reading all your post and finally with the calculations and some basic information from other sites, I decided to give it a try tonight and this was the outcome...


                    User/PhoneGameDateSportDescriptionRisk/WinWin/Loss
                    AmountResultDate / Time
                    Placed-1Ticket #: 25132412
                    Dec 22 08:12 PM

                    NBA
                    STRAIGHT BET
                    [1705] 1H LA LAKERS -7-110

                    330 / 300

                    -330
                    LOSE
                    LOSE
                    12/22/2008
                    07:17 PM -1Ticket #: 25134099
                    Dec 22 08:40 PM

                    NFL
                    STRAIGHT BET
                    [1132] TOTAL u20½-110 (1H GREEN BAY vrs 1H CHICAGO)

                    165 / 150

                    150
                    WIN
                    WIN
                    12/22/2008
                    07:41 PM -1Ticket #: 25134098
                    Dec 22 08:42 PM

                    NFL
                    STRAIGHT BET
                    [131] TOTAL o40½-110 (GREEN BAY vrs CHICAGO)

                    165 / 150

                    -165
                    LOSE
                    LOSE
                    12/22/2008
                    07:41 PM -1Ticket #: 25132801
                    Dec 22 07:42 PM
                    Dec 22 09:12 PM
                    Dec 22 08:42 PM

                    NBA
                    NBA
                    NFL
                    PARLAY (3 TEAMS)
                    [703] HOUSTON -235
                    [710] DENVER -135
                    [132] CHICAGO -200

                    300 / 817

                    817
                    WIN
                    WIN
                    WIN
                    WIN
                    12/22/2008
                    07:24 PM -1Ticket #: 25132323
                    Dec 22 07:42 PM
                    Dec 22 09:12 PM
                    Dec 22 10:42 PM

                    NBA
                    NBA
                    NBA
                    PARLAY (3 TEAMS)
                    [703] HOUSTON -5½-110
                    [710] DENVER -2½-110
                    [711] TORONTO +2½-110

                    300 / 1800

                    1800
                    WIN
                    WIN
                    WIN
                    WIN
                    12/22/2008
                    07:16 PM
                    So far so good... Will keep using it....
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                    • strictlywinners
                      Restricted User
                      • 07-17-07
                      • 3377

                      #185
                      I love the last parlay, very nice my friend.
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                      • mgeclipse
                        SBR Rookie
                        • 12-23-08
                        • 7

                        #186
                        Originally posted by strictlywinners
                        I love the last parlay, very nice my friend.
                        Yes indeed, now it's time to turn the advantage to my side..... next time I'm going heavier on my parlay...
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                        • therber2
                          Restricted User
                          • 12-22-08
                          • 3715

                          #187
                          wait **. I'm pretty sure most of those weren't plays just looking through quickly plus you did some of those plays outside of NBA. Are you ignoring filters and such? Fill us in on your nice victory strategy there, my friend.
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                          • mgeclipse
                            SBR Rookie
                            • 12-23-08
                            • 7

                            #188
                            Originally posted by therber2
                            wait **. I'm pretty sure most of those weren't plays just looking through quickly plus you did some of those plays outside of NBA. Are you ignoring filters and such? Fill us in on your nice victory strategy there, my friend.

                            Well I've always done ok on NFL. I knew the bears were going to win tonight. So I needed a couple of games that will win for sure to do a 3 team parlay on ML to cover the rest of my other bets including the 3 team NBA parlay on the spread. This is when this "system" came in to place. Also I checked out the NBA "virgin lines" to kind of figure out what the sportsbook will be posting. So after doing a little homework and using the "system" I came up with my picks and won both parlays.
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                            • NBA Hero
                              SBR MVP
                              • 12-05-08
                              • 1886

                              #189
                              any system play for tom?
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                              • Rio DiNero
                                SBR MVP
                                • 11-03-08
                                • 2010

                                #190
                                Today, there are no plays if you filter. There are three non-filterd plays ATL,BOS,SA. ATL and BOS are filtered out because they are dd fav's, SA is a dd fav and played last night. I am playing a teaser with BOS and ATL. I haven't been following this too long, but the dd fav's have been hot in this system.
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                                • Rio DiNero
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 11-03-08
                                  • 2010

                                  #191
                                  There is one thing that is confusing, what do we do if dog has better win %? Anyone figure this out. It is not clear what to do in past threads in this situation.Ex: today's game= Indy vs. NJ
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                                  • B1GER1C828
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 07-31-07
                                    • 10244

                                    #192
                                    Originally posted by Rio DiNero
                                    There is one thing that is confusing, what do we do if dog has better win %? Anyone figure this out. It is not clear what to do in past threads in this situation.Ex: today's game= Indy vs. NJ
                                    why would that affect it? you add spread, etc etc doesnt matter
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                                    • Rio DiNero
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 11-03-08
                                      • 2010

                                      #193
                                      Originally posted by B1GER1C828
                                      why would that affect it? you add spread, etc etc doesnt matter
                                      You are to subtract win% of fav - win% of dog(this is what i read in earlier thread).If you do formula this way, in this scanario(dog with higher win%), you will always come up what play on dog. You are saying always use team with higher win %-lower win% no matter who the fav is. Then you would have to add spread not subtract in last step, because in this case team with higher win% is getting points, correct?
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                                      • losturmarbles
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 07-01-08
                                        • 4604

                                        #194
                                        it doesnt matter which way you do it, i just always use the home team, take the difference in %, divide by 20 and add 3, then you must add the spread of the home team (which if its a fav then you will be adding a negative, ie subtracting. i think that is where you are confusing yourself)
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                                        • therber2
                                          Restricted User
                                          • 12-22-08
                                          • 3715

                                          #195
                                          NCAA test

                                          Alright guys. There are no NBA plays tonight, but I had to try this in combination with the pythag/log5 strat. on the NCAA-B.

                                          Here's a NCAA play:

                                          George Washington vs. Sacramento (GW -12)

                                          it had a line move so its not a play anymore (unless you buy points).

                                          Let's see what happens.
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                                          • therber2
                                            Restricted User
                                            • 12-22-08
                                            • 3715

                                            #196
                                            This was close, but it worked (for NCAA); made some sweet cash. I know this string is meant to just track NBA so I'll knock off the other stuff...unless you guys want to hear what I'm doing.

                                            One more thing: I did a teaser on BOS and ATL which were almost plays, but not since they were DD spreads...and won. Sooo...Mundane, my conclusion might be that Double digit bets should be done if the Play number is astronomical (but not too far into the DD's). Perhaps I will try to find a correlation with this.

                                            We have already established the idea that it is safe to assume: if we have a PLAY more money can be put into it if it is well above 10. I personally feel that If we have a "semi-play" meaning it is good, but in the double digits, it could still be a decent play if the PLAY number is WELLLLL above 10 OR you buy points/do a teaser.

                                            What do you all think?or
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                                            • willpies
                                              SBR High Roller
                                              • 12-18-08
                                              • 128

                                              #197
                                              I think this should just test this system but in the college basketball section your should start some sort of thread that would be cool.
                                              I like the idea of 3 quarter systems a lot as a lot of teams let weaker opponents come back a little.
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                                              • B1GER1C828
                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                • 07-31-07
                                                • 10244

                                                #198
                                                people are putting alot of thot into this system, seems everyone under 100 posts are addicted to this thread. Yes its working, but it will fail eventually, good luck
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                                                • SportsLockPicks
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 12-03-07
                                                  • 3386

                                                  #199
                                                  what would the celtics lakers line have to be in order to have a play on either of them?
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                                                  • porkchop817
                                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                                    • 11-29-08
                                                    • 531

                                                    #200
                                                    If the line is BOS -4, then the play will be on the lakers. If it is BOS +8(or greater) then the play will be on the celtics.

                                                    Anything between -4<x>+8 will be a no play
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                                                    • nick2060
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 10-28-08
                                                      • 1051

                                                      #201
                                                      its +2 so i guess no play
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                                                      • Rio DiNero
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 11-03-08
                                                        • 2010

                                                        #202
                                                        Originally posted by B1GER1C828
                                                        people are putting alot of thot into this system, seems everyone under 100 posts are addicted to this thread. Yes its working, but it will fail eventually, good luck
                                                        Looks like we have a HATER! This system seems to be pretty good. I have been using it not only for the filtered picks, but also as a basis to cap games. For ex, not only did a cash my teaser with ATL and BOS (both were dd fav's so were suppossed to be filtered out)but I also cashed my Atl second half bet as they were up by 2 at half and -6.5 in second half which shaved the final spread down enough for Atl to win the game by less than 10 and cover my second half wager. I have only been following system for about 3 weeks and in using this angle I've been doing very well. You guys may want to keep an eye open to this modification. I'm going to ride this system till it burns out.
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                                                        • roasthawg
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 11-09-07
                                                          • 2990

                                                          #203
                                                          Originally posted by Rio DiNero
                                                          Looks like we have a HATER! This system seems to be pretty good. I have been using it not only for the filtered picks, but also as a basis to cap games. For ex, not only did a cash my teaser with ATL and BOS (both were dd fav's so were suppossed to be filtered out)but I also cashed my Atl second half bet as they were up by 2 at half and -6.5 in second half which shaved the final spread down enough for Atl to win the game by less than 10 and cover my second half wager. I have only been following system for about 3 weeks and in using this angle I've been doing very well. You guys may want to keep an eye open to this modification. I'm going to ride this system till it burns out.
                                                          I don't think he's hating so much as being realistic. Any sort of a system based on math really needs to have a solid foundation as to why it works. Why does this system work? If you can't explain that then I'd advise against putting money on it due to the fact that it will probably only hit at about a 50/50 clip in the long run. Since it's been winning so far this season you really have to watch out for the dreaded "regression to the mean"...if it's really only a 50/50 system then it's bound to start throwing out a bunch of losers anytime now.
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                                                          • nick2060
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 10-28-08
                                                            • 1051

                                                            #204
                                                            The reason it wins is because the winning percentages have to have a discrepancy and if that difference is big enough, combined with at home or away (-3 or +3) and the spread. I mean i think being over 10 just makes it considered a strong play. It feels like im really doing a bad job of explaining this so ill try a different way.

                                                            If a team is really good and really bad but on the road it obviously accounts for that, and if its a 3.5 spread they obviously have a better chance of being over 10 and also covering then if the spread was 9.5. IT just seems to be using common sense more then some tricky arithmatic formula. IT just takes into account things people look at, and cap in games and puts them into a formula
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                                                            • B1GER1C828
                                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                                              • 07-31-07
                                                              • 10244

                                                              #205
                                                              Originally posted by roasthawg
                                                              I don't think he's hating so much as being realistic. Any sort of a system based on math really needs to have a solid foundation as to why it works. Why does this system work? If you can't explain that then I'd advise against putting money on it due to the fact that it will probably only hit at about a 50/50 clip in the long run. Since it's been winning so far this season you really have to watch out for the dreaded "regression to the mean"...if it's really only a 50/50 system then it's bound to start throwing out a bunch of losers anytime now.

                                                              exactly

                                                              the system just looks for the better team 2 have a great line. What it doesnt put into account is mathchups for teams or how teams do on the road etc, which is why the system mayb be 9-1 rite now, but could end 30-40 at the end of the season. Backing a system can b solid for short term. But every single knowledgeable handicapper on here will tell you over the long run your going to lose with a system.
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                                                              • B1GER1C828
                                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                                • 07-31-07
                                                                • 10244

                                                                #206
                                                                winning system: take a favorite of -3 or less, and buy 15 points to +12, wins a real lot good luck
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                                                                • willpies
                                                                  SBR High Roller
                                                                  • 12-18-08
                                                                  • 128

                                                                  #207
                                                                  There are no play for tomorow .
                                                                  If you dont like this thread then dont post in it
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                                                                  • NBA Hero
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 12-05-08
                                                                    • 1886

                                                                    #208
                                                                    no play on christmas?
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                                                                    • therber2
                                                                      Restricted User
                                                                      • 12-22-08
                                                                      • 3715

                                                                      #209
                                                                      I'm doin a low wager teaser on Orladando + Clev.

                                                                      Just a test. I have -9.5 clev. and +2 orlando They both have to cover...again, this is a teaser, AND there are

                                                                      NO PLAYs tomorrow. I can't even see a line change creating a system play...so don't place anything tomorrow unless you have a fav. or youve done some research on teams. I did a little and there still aren't any good spread plays....Good money lines but none are worth it.

                                                                      No plays.
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                                                                      • willpies
                                                                        SBR High Roller
                                                                        • 12-18-08
                                                                        • 128

                                                                        #210
                                                                        That teaser looks perfect. I think Cavs and magic straight up so yeah
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