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  • njb5572
    SBR High Roller
    • 01-29-12
    • 126

    #1086
    For the love of god, we're not still talking juice are we? It has nothing to do with the system, please stop.
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    • bubbabubba
      SBR Wise Guy
      • 01-21-11
      • 939

      #1087
      Does anyone have any stats on how many D bets have won? Am I correct in assuming that only 1 D bet has lost ?
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      • gamewinninglv
        SBR High Roller
        • 09-18-12
        • 207

        #1088
        Originally posted by njb5572
        For the love of god, we're not still talking juice are we? It has nothing to do with the system, please stop.
        My favorite type is orange, but sometimes I like apple and grape flavors too. How about you njb?
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        • itsjhurley
          SBR Rookie
          • 11-09-12
          • 43

          #1089
          Originally posted by bubbabubba
          Does anyone have any stats on how many D bets have won? Am I correct in assuming that only 1 D bet has lost ?
          For some of us, 1 d bet was lost.
          For others, 2 d bets were lost.
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          • Stifler
            SBR MVP
            • 11-11-09
            • 3511

            #1090
            Originally posted by Stifler
            05.12.2012

            S1

            (B Bet) SA: Spurs -5,5 1,10u | Spurs -8,5 2,31u
            (A Bet) Den fade: Atlanta -1 1,10u
            (A Bet) Sac fade: Toronto +2,5 1,10u

            S2

            (A Bet) Orl: Orlando +8,5 1,10u

            S3

            (B Bet) Tor fade: Denver -10 1,10u | Sacramento -2,5 2,31u
            (A Bet) GS fade: Detroit -1 1,10u
            records:
            S1: W 17 | L 1 (-1,45 units)
            S2: W 8 | L 0 (+8,00 units)
            S3: W 6 | L 0 (+6,00 units)
            S4: W 12 | L 0 (+13,00 units)

            pending:
            - S4 Mem fade, new A Bet on 07.12.2012
            - S1 Sac fade, B Bet on 07.12.2012
            - S3 GS fade, B Bet on 07.12.2012

            ________________________________________ ________________________________________ ________

            all rules and qualifying teams for every system can be found on post #786
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            • Stifler
              SBR MVP
              • 11-11-09
              • 3511

              #1091
              06.12.2012

              no plays today
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              • Grinder12000
                SBR MVP
                • 04-21-11
                • 1809

                #1092
                For the love of god, we're not still talking juice are we? It has nothing to do with the system, please stop.
                njb5572 - I only brought it up as there was a definitive and final answer - but if you want to talk about it more be my guest.
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                • Wallco99
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 01-01-11
                  • 7261

                  #1093
                  Originally posted by gamewinninglv
                  My favorite type is orange, but sometimes I like apple and grape flavors too. How about you njb?
                  I like the juice you get when sticking a paper clip into a wall outlet, quite invigorating! Then of course there is cranberry juice, made from the forgotten fruit. Then there's always A-Rod's favorite "juice", but that is not recommended to anyone.
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                  • Grinder12000
                    SBR MVP
                    • 04-21-11
                    • 1809

                    #1094
                    S1: W 17 | L 1 (-1,45 units)
                    S2: W 8 | L 0 (+8,00 units)
                    S3: W 6 | L 0 (+6,00 units)
                    S4: W 12 | L 0 (+13,00 units)
                    Thirteen??

                    Should be 12 right? If S1 is -1.45 then a win is one unit

                    S1 17-18.45=-1.45

                    So S4 is 12 units.

                    Not doubting math, just a quick correction.
                    Last edited by Grinder12000; 12-06-12, 09:01 AM.
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                    • Nino7
                      SBR Wise Guy
                      • 07-11-09
                      • 798

                      #1095
                      Originally posted by Grinder12000
                      Thirteen??

                      Should be 12 right? If S1 is -1.45 then a win is one unit

                      S1 17-18.45=-1.45



                      So S4 is 12 units.

                      Not doubting math, just a quick correction.
                      He played 2 units on a S4 spurs serie
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                      • Asset
                        SBR Sharp
                        • 11-07-09
                        • 326

                        #1096
                        Originally posted by wallco99
                        i like the juice you get when sticking a paper clip into a wall outlet, quite invigorating! Then of course there is cranberry juice, made from the forgotten fruit. Then there's always a-rod's favorite "juice", but that is not recommended to anyone.
                        lmfao!!
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                        • Asset
                          SBR Sharp
                          • 11-07-09
                          • 326

                          #1097
                          Originally posted by Nino7
                          He played 2 units on a S4 spurs serie
                          Yup
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                          • njb5572
                            SBR High Roller
                            • 01-29-12
                            • 126

                            #1098
                            Originally posted by Grinder12000
                            njb5572 - I only brought it up as there was a definitive and final answer - but if you want to talk about it more be my guest.
                            Cran-apple. Nothing else comes close
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                            • Grinder12000
                              SBR MVP
                              • 04-21-11
                              • 1809

                              #1099
                              He played 2 units on a S4 spurs series
                              Well seriously - you can't count that as two plays then as it makes all the records bogus. Unless he can list all the plays in the last 6 years he has played two units on.

                              Then the records are what HE personally plays and not the system at all. Are there games Stif only played 1/2 a unit on? Are some games 1.5 units? What is his record on 2 unit games in the last 6 years.

                              See what I'm getting at? If he counts that one game as two wins then it's not longer a system and just his personal wagers.

                              Counting one system game as 2 units opens up a HUGE can of worms.

                              I totally know the systems numbers are legit but . . . . I'm in love with accuracy.
                              Last edited by Grinder12000; 12-06-12, 02:33 PM.
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                              • degengamble
                                SBR Rookie
                                • 12-03-12
                                • 39

                                #1100
                                Hey Stifler,

                                So I usually post on covers but ran across this thread on SBR. I like your system - so i'm going to play it this year along with other models that I play. I tend to automate any systems I play - so I automated yours. See the attached zip file.

                                All you have to do is click on the "Today" button to navigate to today's date, and click the "update" button and it will pull in all the data needed from the web (i.e Covers ATS results, etc) to determine the plays of the day. I also added a Bet Tracker tab. If you click on the "Add Bets" button any plays for the day are copied to the Bet Tracker tab and it tells you the when and against what team the future plays will be if A,B, or C bet are lost.

                                One of the nice features you can click the "-" button and navigate to past dates and see if a chase started on that day.

                                So use it if you like - hope it makes it easier - if you find any bugs - let me know.

                                Also - in order to run the macros needed to pull the data from the web you NEED Excel 2007 or newer - sorry NO Open Office - you need MS Excel. So really only PC's - No MACS



                                Good Luck on the season and Enjoy!

                                Degengamble
                                Attached Files
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                                • tr4sh
                                  SBR Sharp
                                  • 09-06-12
                                  • 311

                                  #1101
                                  Hey great excel, I was wondering, where in the macro is it looking up specific websites to get the spread/odds info?
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                                  • Grinder12000
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 04-21-11
                                    • 1809

                                    #1102
                                    You know - opening a ZIP file from a stranger that has been on this forum for a couple days . . . . . I'm not saying Degengamble is not on the up and up but . . . . .
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                                    • Wallco99
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 01-01-11
                                      • 7261

                                      #1103
                                      Originally posted by Grinder12000
                                      Well seriously - you can't count that as two plays then as it makes all the records bogus. Unless he can list all the plays in the last 6 years he has played two units on.

                                      Then the records are what HE personally plays and not the system at all. Are there games Stif only played 1/2 a unit on? Are some games 1.5 units? What is his record on 2 unit games in the last 6 years.

                                      See what I'm getting at? If he counts that one game as two wins then it's not longer a system and just his personal wagers.

                                      Counting one system game as 2 units opens up a HUGE can of worms.

                                      I totally know the systems numbers are legit but . . . . I'm in love with accuracy.
                                      I don't feel like scrolling back through 30 pages of clutter to find his post, but I am pretty sure he said he was playing that for 2 units but only counting it as a system play for 1 unit. If that is the case, then he made his error elsewhere, if not, then I agree with you, the system stats are inaccurate and need to be fixed.
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                                      • Grinder12000
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 04-21-11
                                        • 1809

                                        #1104
                                        Sorry - I didn't meant to sound so confrontational - I think it's this cold I have. It's one of those - one extra win does not disqualify the system at all, but accuracy is always nice.
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                                        • willbills
                                          SBR Rookie
                                          • 11-27-12
                                          • 4

                                          #1105
                                          Grinder man do you work or just sit here and post shit all day?
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                                          • TB12
                                            SBR High Roller
                                            • 12-04-12
                                            • 130

                                            #1106
                                            Originally posted by degengamble
                                            Hey Stifler,

                                            So I usually post on covers but ran across this thread on SBR. I like your system - so i'm going to play it this year along with other models that I play. I tend to automate any systems I play - so I automated yours. See the attached zip file.

                                            All you have to do is click on the "Today" button to navigate to today's date, and click the "update" button and it will pull in all the data needed from the web (i.e Covers ATS results, etc) to determine the plays of the day. I also added a Bet Tracker tab. If you click on the "Add Bets" button any plays for the day are copied to the Bet Tracker tab and it tells you the when and against what team the future plays will be if A,B, or C bet are lost.

                                            One of the nice features you can click the "-" button and navigate to past dates and see if a chase started on that day.

                                            So use it if you like - hope it makes it easier - if you find any bugs - let me know.

                                            Also - in order to run the macros needed to pull the data from the web you NEED Excel 2007 or newer - sorry NO Open Office - you need MS Excel. So really only PC's - No MACS



                                            Good Luck on the season and Enjoy!

                                            Degengamble

                                            This Excel seems awesome but I have no idea how to use it, could you go into further detail of how it works?
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                                            • Grinder12000
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 04-21-11
                                              • 1809

                                              #1107
                                              Sell employed. If you must know I'm a fine art photographer - those are my photos on the avatar.

                                              And you are a stranger with 3 posts and at least 1/3 of them are insults!
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                                              • Stifler
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 11-11-09
                                                • 3511

                                                #1108
                                                Originally posted by Grinder12000
                                                If he counts that one game as two wins then it's not longer a system and just his personal wagers.
                                                All plays i listed so far were personal lines, except the -110 odds. Im getting better odds most of the time, but i dont wanna cause more questions posting my odds. U guys acting like world is going under if im posting any small deviations from the backtested system. First not posting the closing line, now making a series a 2unit play. U wanna have an accurate system record? Not that hard to count the overall wins - (lost series x 18,45). The record @ the end of the season here will not be the same as the 2012-2013 covers backtested record.
                                                looking forward to the next season i would post the backtested record from the covers lines in my first post. What im doing here is making small upgrades to get some extra cash out of the system. Im not forcing anyone to play a 2unit series.

                                                I dont wanna start a senseless discussion about accuracy, but just going by some random closing lines on covers is even more inaccurate than posting live lines ur really getting when placing the bets. Everyone have to live with the line he is getting, this closing covers line wont get his win. I know this will end in another senseless discussion.

                                                As already said @ the beginning of the next season i will come up with the record from the covers backtested lines. That still doesnt mean my life is depending on those lines and to play every series for 1unit. Nothing wrong with doing it though.

                                                I don't feel like scrolling back through 30 pages of clutter to find his post, but I am pretty sure he said he was playing that for 2 units but only counting it as a system play for 1 unit.
                                                Never said that. I was posting 2unit plays in my mlb thread aswell, when i felt like this is a good spot. Why not adding money management to a chase system, atleast a few times?
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                                                • Grinder12000
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 04-21-11
                                                  • 1809

                                                  #1109
                                                  I don't feel like scrolling back through 30 pages of clutter to find his post, but I am pretty sure he said he was playing that for 2 units but only counting it as a system play for 1 unit.
                                                  Actually I thought you said that also. But that's fine

                                                  Just to make it clear then. The stats listed are not stats that follow to The Chase system but are your own stats - that's fine. It's all good.

                                                  Awesome system so far.
                                                  Last edited by Grinder12000; 12-06-12, 06:23 PM.
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                                                  • degengamble
                                                    SBR Rookie
                                                    • 12-03-12
                                                    • 39

                                                    #1110
                                                    Originally posted by tr4sh
                                                    Hey great excel, I was wondering, where in the macro is it looking up specific websites to get the spread/odds info?
                                                    ATS data is from Covers

                                                    The NBA odds info is from Don Best
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                                                    • degengamble
                                                      SBR Rookie
                                                      • 12-03-12
                                                      • 39

                                                      #1111
                                                      Originally posted by Grinder12000
                                                      You know - opening a ZIP file from a stranger that has been on this forum for a couple days . . . . . I'm not saying Degengamble is not on the up and up but . . . . .

                                                      Grinder - yeah I hear ya...but you can check me out on Covers. I have been there for quite awhile. I wanted to post just a link to download the file from google docs - but when I tried that - I got banned as a spammer and had to get my account activated...

                                                      Unfortunately I can't post an xlsm file (i.e excel file with macros) either.

                                                      But I hear ya - sorry not many other options to share an excel file
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                                                      • degengamble
                                                        SBR Rookie
                                                        • 12-03-12
                                                        • 39

                                                        #1112
                                                        Originally posted by TB12
                                                        This Excel seems awesome but I have no idea how to use it, could you go into further detail of how it works?
                                                        TB12 - All you have to do is click the "update" button each day. A macro runs and imports the ATS results from Covers for each team. I hid some tabs that do all the checking to see if it's a system play.

                                                        If it is a play - it will indicate what the play is under the system columns in BLUE. For example - go ahead and click on the "-" button and navigate to 12/5/12. You will see that you should start a chase / fade for the following: Fade Sac, Chase Orl, Fade GSW, (note: Fade Den not included because it was removed from Team Filters by Stifler)

                                                        Now you would click the "Add Bets" button and it will copy the plays to the "Bet Tracker" Tab - you will see on the Bet Tracker tab - the Team, The Play, what system it falls under - and when the scheduled A,B,C,D games are. It will also highlight in yellow if the series (i.e row) is an open series and it will highlight if within an open series if you should play the corresponding A,B,C or D game.

                                                        Hope that helps

                                                        DG
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                                                        • TB12
                                                          SBR High Roller
                                                          • 12-04-12
                                                          • 130

                                                          #1113
                                                          Originally posted by degengamble
                                                          TB12 - All you have to do is click the "update" button each day. A macro runs and imports the ATS results from Covers for each team. I hid some tabs that do all the checking to see if it's a system play.

                                                          If it is a play - it will indicate what the play is under the system columns in BLUE. For example - go ahead and click on the "-" button and navigate to 12/5/12. You will see that you should start a chase / fade for the following: Fade Sac, Chase Orl, Fade GSW, (note: Fade Den not included because it was removed from Team Filters by Stifler)

                                                          Now you would click the "Add Bets" button and it will copy the plays to the "Bet Tracker" Tab - you will see on the Bet Tracker tab - the Team, The Play, what system it falls under - and when the scheduled A,B,C,D games are. It will also highlight in yellow if the series (i.e row) is an open series and it will highlight if within an open series if you should play the corresponding A,B,C or D game.

                                                          Hope that helps

                                                          DG
                                                          Thanks for the speedy reply, this spreadsheet is LEGIT thanks for the time. I'm hoping you will have something similar for MLB next season and maybe even NHL if they end the lockout!
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                                                          • degengamble
                                                            SBR Rookie
                                                            • 12-03-12
                                                            • 39

                                                            #1114
                                                            Originally posted by TB12
                                                            Thanks for the speedy reply, this spreadsheet is LEGIT thanks for the time. I'm hoping you will have something similar for MLB next season and maybe even NHL if they end the lockout!
                                                            Well i am very proficient at excel - I can pretty much automate any system, or pull in any data from the web. If it's displayed on a page - I can pretty much scrape it.

                                                            My problem is I am a horrible handicapper

                                                            It's like being a the race car driver but with no car to drive - lol
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                                                            • Huego
                                                              SBR Sharp
                                                              • 01-23-11
                                                              • 265

                                                              #1115
                                                              Originally posted by degengamble
                                                              Well i am very proficient at excel - I can pretty much automate any system, or pull in any data from the web. If it's displayed on a page - I can pretty much scrape it.

                                                              My problem is I am a horrible handicapper

                                                              It's like being a the race car driver but with no car to drive - lol
                                                              that's pretty impressive. Wish I had your excel skills, lol.
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                                                              • Riceboi
                                                                SBR Wise Guy
                                                                • 10-03-11
                                                                • 857

                                                                #1116
                                                                Originally posted by degengamble
                                                                Well i am very proficient at excel - I can pretty much automate any system, or pull in any data from the web. If it's displayed on a page - I can pretty much scrape it.

                                                                My problem is I am a horrible handicapper

                                                                It's like being a the race car driver but with no car to drive - lol
                                                                Can you teach me how to pull past seasons covers data off the site into excel?
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                                                                • jimmy007oc
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 08-25-10
                                                                  • 1699

                                                                  #1117
                                                                  Good spot to play Nets tomorrow. revenge game for the Nets and D.Will. I'll go with 5 Units instead of 3U or whatever unit I lost on A bet
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                                                                  • Db530
                                                                    SBR Rookie
                                                                    • 11-26-12
                                                                    • 9

                                                                    #1118
                                                                    The excel is setup very nicely and i like it a lot but there's only one thing i don't understand, how do you know if it's an A B C D bet? The way im reading it the spreadsheet only states wether its a fade or a chase and the specific series it's under.
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                                                                    • degengamble
                                                                      SBR Rookie
                                                                      • 12-03-12
                                                                      • 39

                                                                      #1119
                                                                      Originally posted by Riceboi
                                                                      Can you teach me how to pull past seasons covers data off the site into excel?
                                                                      Riceboi - I have a spreadsheet that does that - I'm using it to backtest Stiflers systems to see if I can make it a 3 game chase rather than a 4 game chase.

                                                                      I can post it tomorrow - I would PM it but I don't have enough posts yet
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                                                                      • degengamble
                                                                        SBR Rookie
                                                                        • 12-03-12
                                                                        • 39

                                                                        #1120
                                                                        Originally posted by Db530
                                                                        The excel is setup very nicely and i like it a lot but there's only one thing i don't understand, how do you know if it's an A B C D bet? The way im reading it the spreadsheet only states wether its a fade or a chase and the specific series it's under.
                                                                        Once you add the bet to the bet tracker sheet by pressing the "add bets" button - you have to track if the game is a win,loss or push. Since everyone gets different lines - a win for one person might be a push or loss for another.
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