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  • A4K
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    • 10-08-12
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    #36
    Originally posted by Murray Rothbard
    Thanks for the plays A4K. I love the Heat play and your analysis was spot on. You may want to take a look at the Wolves/Dalls under. There are significant injuries on both sides and the total has dropped by 3 points since the opening line while 63% of the public is on the over. Same line movement in that Portland game.

    Anyways, GL!
    GREAT CALL! That was not close to going over. I wish I would've arrived home earlier.
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    • Murray Rothbard
      SBR Wise Guy
      • 10-22-12
      • 698

      #37
      Thanks. I wish I would of taken that Portland under as well. Instead I took the spread and their about to lose. Weak.
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      • A4K
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        • 10-08-12
        • 5243

        #38
        Originally posted by Murray Rothbard
        Thanks. I wish I would of taken that Portland under as well. Instead I took the spread and their about to lose. Weak.
        This often happens to me. My subconscious mind gives me a selection and I ignore it to go with a "logical" selection. I need to hone in on listening to that inner voice.
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        • celtics3388
          SBR MVP
          • 12-31-10
          • 1916

          #39
          seems like you put in a lot of working capping the nba A4K - would love to hear your thoughts on the Raptors/Pacers tonight if you got the time
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          • A4K
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            • 10-08-12
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            #40
            Originally posted by celtics3388
            seems like you put in a lot of working capping the nba A4K - would love to hear your thoughts on the Raptors/Pacers tonight if you got the time
            Looking at that game, right now. The only thing that scares me is the amount of minutes that the Raptors played last night. I'll keep you posted.
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            • celtics3388
              SBR MVP
              • 12-31-10
              • 1916

              #41
              Originally posted by A4K

              Looking at that game, right now. The only thing that scares me is the amount of minutes that the Raptors played last night. I'll keep you posted.
              sounds good, i'll check in later
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              • A4K
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                • 10-08-12
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                #42
                Originally posted by celtics3388
                sounds good, i'll check in later
                I don't particularly care for this game, but if you put a gun to my head, I'd take the OVER 184.5 and the Raptors with the points. 9.5 is a lot of points to cover. I don't care how tough Indiana is at home.

                THIS IS NOT AN OFFICIAL PLAY FOR ME. Just offering my opinion.
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                • celtics3388
                  SBR MVP
                  • 12-31-10
                  • 1916

                  #43
                  Originally posted by A4K

                  I don't particularly care for this game, but if you put a gun to my head, I'd take the OVER 184.5 and the Raptors with the points. 9.5 is a lot of points to cover. I don't care how tough Indiana is at home.

                  THIS IS NOT AN OFFICIAL PLAY FOR ME. Just offering my opinion.
                  haha well I layed the 9 and played under 185.5 for a unit each. I can't see how Toronto scores too many points here coming in on the second leg of a back-to-back where the first game went to 3OT's - especially with Fields and Lowry out. I agree 9 is alot to lay against anyone with Indy this year but I think if they play to their potential this could be blowout city with this being a pretty terrible spot for the Raps. They are learning how to play offensively without Granger and I'm thinking this is the spot where they breakout. They have been solid defensively all year and I don't see why that wouldn't continue against Toronto.

                  Sorry about clogging up your thread bro I just like to talk through some games and u seem to be putting in the work over here. BOL with your plays
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                  • A4K
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                    • 10-08-12
                    • 5243

                    #44
                    Originally posted by celtics3388
                    haha well I layed the 9 and played under 185.5 for a unit each. I can't see how Toronto scores too many points here coming in on the second leg of a back-to-back where the first game went to 3OT's - especially with Fields and Lowry out. I agree 9 is alot to lay against anyone with Indy this year but I think if they play to their potential this could be blowout city with this being a pretty terrible spot for the Raps. They are learning how to play offensively without Granger and I'm thinking this is the spot where they breakout. They have been solid defensively all year and I don't see why that wouldn't continue against Toronto.

                    Sorry about clogging up your thread bro I just like to talk through some games and u seem to be putting in the work over here. BOL with your plays
                    No worries. You bring up some good points. Like I said, I'm not particularly fond of this game for some of the reasons you mention. I'm guessing Indiana will score well above their season average because Toronto refuses to play defense. The real question is whether or not Toronto will have any energy or life tonight on the offensive side of the court. Like you said, Indiana is a solid team on the defensive end.

                    Best of luck, tonight.
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                    • Murray Rothbard
                      SBR Wise Guy
                      • 10-22-12
                      • 698

                      #45
                      A4K, what are your thoughts on the Charlotte game? The total moved up a couple points since the opener (188-190) yet a slight majority of the public is on the under. On the other hand, the spread has remained firm at 2 while 68% of the public is on Charlotte.
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                      • A4K
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                        • 10-08-12
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                        #46
                        Originally posted by Murray Rothbard
                        A4K, what are your thoughts on the Charlotte game? The total moved up a couple points since the opener (188-190) yet a slight majority of the public is on the under. On the other hand, the spread has remained firm at 2 while 68% of the public is on Charlotte.
                        I don't care for this game, two scrub teams. If I had to bet, I'd take the Wizards and the points. They've been awfully close to winning their first game against some good teams. I also like the under, but I'd need the line to climb to around 193 to feel comfortable.
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                        • Murray Rothbard
                          SBR Wise Guy
                          • 10-22-12
                          • 698

                          #47
                          Originally posted by A4K
                          I don't care for this game, two scrub teams. If I had to bet, I'd take the Wizards and the points. They've been awfully close to winning their first game against some good teams. I also like the under, but I'd need the line to climb to around 193 to feel comfortable.
                          Thanks for your input. Given the LM (or lack thereof) I would have to say Washington is probably a safe bet tonight.
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                          • A4K
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                            #48
                            Originally posted by Murray Rothbard
                            Thanks for your input. Given the LM (or lack thereof) I would have to say Washington is probably a safe bet tonight.
                            Yeah, judging by their results, they've had a shot at winning most of their games and faltered, but those were against some solid teams. Charlotte may have 3 wins, but I believe they are on the same tier as the Wizards in terms of talent.
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                            • Murray Rothbard
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                              • 10-22-12
                              • 698

                              #49
                              Originally posted by A4K
                              Yeah, judging by their results, they've had a shot at winning most of their games and faltered, but those were against some solid teams. Charlotte may have 3 wins, but I believe they are on the same tier as the Wizards in terms of talent.
                              Yeah, and Charlotte had a few notable injuries from what I remember but I'm not sure if those players are still out (Im thinking Rivers and Davis?). If so, that could be the reason for the lack of LM.
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                              • A4K
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                                • 10-08-12
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                                #50
                                Originally posted by Murray Rothbard
                                Yeah, and Charlotte had a few notable injuries from what I remember but I'm not sure if those players are still out (Im thinking Rivers and Davis?). If so, that could be the reason for the lack of LM.
                                Bobkittens are not showing any notable injuries on scoresandodds.com
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                                • celtics3388
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 12-31-10
                                  • 1916

                                  #51
                                  Originally posted by Murray Rothbard

                                  Yeah, and Charlotte had a few notable injuries from what I remember but I'm not sure if those players are still out (Im thinking Rivers and Davis?). If so, that could be the reason for the lack of LM.
                                  Lol the Hornets haven't been in Charlotte for like 10 years
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                                  • A4K
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                                    • 10-08-12
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                                    #52
                                    Originally posted by celtics3388
                                    Lol the Hornets haven't been in Charlotte for like 10 years
                                    Lol, Murray is like me, I switch those two in my mind, all the time. I blame this problem on the NBA for moving teams like they are mobile homes.
                                    Last edited by A4K; 11-13-12, 05:38 PM.
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                                    • A4K
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 10-08-12
                                      • 5243

                                      #53
                                      2012.2013:

                                      Overall Record: 7 - 4 - 1 ~ 63.63% win rate

                                      Spread: 5 - 3 - 1
                                      Totals: 2 - 1 - 0

                                      Units up/down, flat betting: +2.6

                                      Up/Down $$: +$351.34


                                      Bankroll: $5,351.34
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                                      Play for 11/13/2012.....

                                      Blazers @ KingsUNDER 197

                                      $160.54 to win $145.95

                                      No Demarcus Cousins, both teams struggling to score, Blazers somewhat improving on the defensive end.


                                      Last edited by A4K; 11-13-12, 06:20 PM.
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                                      • Murray Rothbard
                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                        • 10-22-12
                                        • 698

                                        #54
                                        Originally posted by celtics3388
                                        Lol the Hornets haven't been in Charlotte for like 10 years
                                        ROFL, my bad, those two teams always get me lol.

                                        Originally posted by A4K
                                        Lol, Murray is like me, I switch those two in my mind, all the time. I blame this problem on the NBA for moving teams like they are mobile homes.
                                        Yeah FU NBA!

                                        Btw, I just took the Wizards (they're still in Washington right? ) +2. My theory tells me take the Wizards but my gut is saying don't touch these two terrible teams. Hope it doesn't come back to bite me but you already know, Scared Money Dont Make Money!
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                                        • A4K
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 10-08-12
                                          • 5243

                                          #55
                                          Originally posted by A4K

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                                          Play for 11/13/2012.....

                                          Blazers @ Kings UNDER 197

                                          $160.54 to win $145.95

                                          No Demarcus Cousins, both teams struggling to score, Blazers somewhat improving on the defensive end.


                                          Nailed it, but I'm not happy with the ending. None of the first three quarters came close to 50 points and then all of a sudden the game turned into street jam '13 and they score 57 in the 4th. Total bullsh!t. Happy I cashed, but sometimes you see teams throw in the towel and play street-ball for no apparent reason. Flagrant fouls and total lack of defense ensued. Anyways, I shouldn't complain so much about a win.

                                          Updated Record:

                                          2012.2013:

                                          Overall Record: 8 - 4 - 1 ~ ~~66.67% win rate

                                          Spread: 5 - 3 - 1
                                          Totals: 3 - 1 - 0

                                          Units up/down, flat betting: +3.6

                                          Up/Down $$: +$497.29


                                          Bankroll: $5,497.29
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                                          • TR35
                                            SBR High Roller
                                            • 10-22-12
                                            • 176

                                            #56
                                            Nice win. The 4th quarter was bs.
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                                            • A4K
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                                              • 10-08-12
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                                              #57
                                              Originally posted by TR35
                                              Nice win. The 4th quarter was bs.
                                              Yeah, that's the modern NBA. In blowout games, each team empty's their bench and the 2nd and 3rd string scrubs think they have to prove how great they think they are. They end up shooting 3-ball after 3-ball and refusing to play any defense. Ultimately, scoring and dunking becomes the priority and real basketball goes out the window.
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                                              • Murray Rothbard
                                                SBR Wise Guy
                                                • 10-22-12
                                                • 698

                                                #58
                                                Nice hit A4K, who you got tonight?
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                                                • A4K
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                                                  • 10-08-12
                                                  • 5243

                                                  #59
                                                  2012.2013:

                                                  Overall Record: 8 - 4 - 1 ~ ~~66.67% win rate

                                                  Spread: 5 - 3 - 1
                                                  Totals: 3 - 1 - 0

                                                  Units up/down, flat betting: +3.6

                                                  Up/Down $$: +$497.29


                                                  Bankroll: $5,497.29
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                                                  Plays for 11/14/2012.....

                                                  #1 Bulls @ Suns UNDER 191.5

                                                  $164.92 to win $149.93


                                                  #2 Pacers @ Bucks -4.5

                                                  $164.92 to win $149.93

                                                  Bucks need a home win, Indiana struggling to score without their top guy.

                                                  Bulls are a much better team than the Suns and their defense should step up tonight.


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                                                  • TR35
                                                    SBR High Roller
                                                    • 10-22-12
                                                    • 176

                                                    #60
                                                    Good pick with Bucks. I had them -4. I didn't see the Bulls under until now. Just got home. Maybe I will take 2nd half under.
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                                                    • A4K
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                                                      • 10-08-12
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                                                      #61
                                                      Originally posted by TR35
                                                      Good pick with Bucks. I had them -4. I didn't see the Bulls under until now. Just got home. Maybe I will take 2nd half under.
                                                      LOL, probably better that you missed the second play. I don't know where my head was at. The Bulls are not anywhere near the defenders they were last year.
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                                                      • A4K
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                                                        • 10-08-12
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                                                        #62
                                                        Originally posted by A4K

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                                                        Plays for 11/14/2012.....

                                                        #1 Bulls @ Suns UNDER 191.5

                                                        $164.92 to win $149.93


                                                        #2 Pacers @ Bucks -4.5

                                                        $164.92 to win $149.93

                                                        Bucks need a home win, Indiana struggling to score without their top guy.

                                                        Bulls are a much better team than the Suns and their defense should step up tonight.


                                                        Well, the Bucks selection went better than expected and the Bulls UNDER was NOT close. I'm really disappointed in the Bulls on the defensive end. Guess I need to let go of my perception of them as a hard nosed defensive team. Lesson learned, that was last season. Anyways, not too upset about eating a lil juice on the day. Overall, I think I have a good feel for the NBA, at the moment. Will start a NCAA BB thread next week.


                                                        Updated Record:

                                                        2012.2013:

                                                        Overall Record: 9 - 5 - 1 ~ ~~64.29% win rate

                                                        Spread: 6 - 3 - 1
                                                        Totals: 3 - 2 - 0

                                                        Units up/down, flat betting: +3.5

                                                        Up/Down $$: +$482.30


                                                        Bankroll: $5,482.30
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                                                        • celtics3388
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 12-31-10
                                                          • 1916

                                                          #63
                                                          Bulls are still a hard-nosed defensive team when they have to be AK, they are just much better at home and its hard to focus on D when the team you are playing plays zero defense whatsoever
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                                                          • A4K
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                                                            • 10-08-12
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                                                            #64
                                                            Originally posted by celtics3388
                                                            Bulls are still a hard-nosed defensive team when they have to be AK, they are just much better at home and its hard to focus on D when the team you are playing plays zero defense whatsoever
                                                            You make a good point. Sometimes teams drop to the level of their competition on the defensive end.
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                                                            • A4K
                                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                                              • 10-08-12
                                                              • 5243

                                                              #65
                                                              2012.2013:

                                                              Overall Record: 9 - 5 - 1 ~ ~~64.29% win rate

                                                              Spread: 6 - 3 - 1
                                                              Totals: 3 - 2 - 0

                                                              Units up/down, flat betting: +3.5

                                                              Up/Down $$: +$482.30


                                                              Bankroll: $5,482.30
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                                                              Plays for 11/15/2012....

                                                              Knicks @ Spurs UNDER 197

                                                              $164.47 TO WIN $149.52

                                                              The total keeps moving upwards, but I suspect that each team will step up on the defensive end. Knicks don't want to turn this into a track meet and neither do the Spurs. I expect a lot of half-court sets without many points being scored in transition.


                                                              Last edited by A4K; 11-15-12, 06:18 PM. Reason: bought in at 197, adjusted the total
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                                                              • A4K
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                                                                • 10-08-12
                                                                • 5243

                                                                #66
                                                                Glad I got down at 197. Line has since dropped to 195.5.
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                                                                • A4K
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                                                                  • 10-08-12
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                                                                  #67
                                                                  FML, 64 1st quarter points! Hope that pace comes to a screeching halt. I read this game wrong. Neither team is playing an ounce of defense. 64 points scored in the 1st quarter and 15 scored in the last 2:30 of the second quarter. Going to lay off totals for awhile.
                                                                  Last edited by A4K; 11-15-12, 09:54 PM.
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                                                                  • A4K
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                                                                    • 10-08-12
                                                                    • 5243

                                                                    #68
                                                                    Originally posted by A4K

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                                                                    Plays for 11/15/2012....

                                                                    Knicks @ Spurs UNDER 197

                                                                    $164.47 TO WIN $149.52
                                                                    LOSS

                                                                    The total keeps moving upwards, but I suspect that each team will step up on the defensive end. Knicks don't want to turn this into a track meet and neither do the Spurs. I expect a lot of half-court sets without many points being scored in transition.


                                                                    That first quarter killed me. I can live with the other three, but 64 points in one quarter is crazy for two teams of this caliber. Oh well, on to our next winners.

                                                                    2012.2013:

                                                                    Overall Record: 9 - 6 - 1 ~ ~~60% win rate

                                                                    Spread: 6 - 3 - 1
                                                                    Totals: 3 - 3 - 0

                                                                    Units up/down, flat betting: +2.4

                                                                    Up/Down $$: +$317.83


                                                                    Bankroll: $5,317.83
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                                                                    • A4K
                                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                      • 10-08-12
                                                                      • 5243

                                                                      #69
                                                                      2012.2013:

                                                                      Overall Record: 9 - 6 - 1 ~ ~~60% win rate

                                                                      Spread: 6 - 3 - 1
                                                                      Totals: 3 - 3 - 0

                                                                      Units up/down, flat betting: +2.4

                                                                      Up/Down $$: +$317.83


                                                                      Bankroll: $5,317.83
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                                                                      Play for 11/16/2012...

                                                                      Hawks @ Kings OVER 190

                                                                      $159.53 to win $145.03

                                                                      Cousins is back for the Kings and he does well against the Hawks. Kings should get a shot in the arm from two returning players, so I expect scoring to be up for them. Conversely, the Kings don't play defense, so the Hawks should score well above their average.


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                                                                      • A4K
                                                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                        • 10-08-12
                                                                        • 5243

                                                                        #70
                                                                        Originally posted by A4K

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                                                                        Play for 11/16/2012...

                                                                        Hawks @ Kings OVER 190

                                                                        $159.53 to win $145.03

                                                                        Cousins is back for the Kings and he does well against the Hawks. Kings should get a shot in the arm from two returning players, so I expect scoring to be up for them. Conversely, the Kings don't play defense, so the Hawks should score well above their average.


                                                                        WINNER!

                                                                        GAME RECAP:

                                                                        This game went according to plan. Hawks scored well above their average and the Kings appeared to get a little life from Cousins being in the lineup. He had 16 boards, but only 9 points. Nice to get an easy 18 point over.

                                                                        2012.2013:

                                                                        Overall Record: 10 - 6 - 1 ~ ~~62.5% win rate

                                                                        Spread: 6 - 3 - 1
                                                                        Totals: 4 - 3 - 0

                                                                        Units up/down, flat betting: +3.4

                                                                        Up/Down $$: +$462.86


                                                                        Bankroll: $5,462.86
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