Struve? After seeing him get hassled by Buentello and dominated by Moorecraft? McCorkle seems to be a smart fighter and Struve seems to be getting by solely on a size advantage which he's not really going to have.
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Ye I'm on this trail of thought as well. Surely he cant pull off yet another miraculous comeback!?
Struve has been living on borrowed time IMO, if Buentello hadn't of been so small and stretching he would of KO'd Struve when he did that ridiculously telegraphed flying knee! McCorkle should have a 35 to 40lb size advantage when they step in to the cage. Morecraft won that 1st round 10-8 and should of finished Struve, I think McCorkle is going to finish what Morecraft started as he is even bigger, has a better ground game and is more experienced. Im looking to take McCorkle in Round 1 at +500 or McCorkle Sub of the Night and McCorkle KO of the Night each at +1400.Comment -
Buentello and Morecraft are both known for knockout power, but from what I've seen McCorkle doesn't have much of a standup game. So even though Struve gets hit way too much, that may not be as big of an issue here. Struve's jiu-jitsu is very good, perhaps not at McCorkle's level but I don't think McCorkle will be able to sub him. From his back Struve is always dangerous with his triangle. McCorkle might win by decision but somehow I think Struve will tag him on the feet and finish him, perhaps even by sub.Comment -
I agree, I dont foresee Big Sexy KO'ing him on the feet even tho Struve is easy to hit. But I do think McCorkle can close the distance, force Struve against the cage then use his size to force Struve to the ground and TKO him from there. Struve is aggressive of his back which leads to him leaving himself exposed to ground and pound. He managed to get away with it against Stojnic and Morecraft, and of course Struve could lock on a triangle but I'd like to think that McCorkle has prepared for this relentlessly in training and will have the strength to power out of any tricky situations.Last edited by Vaughany; 12-09-10, 11:25 AM.Comment -
I like McCorkle by TKO at +382. Struve is very hittable off his back.Comment -
Mccorkles mechanics on the feet are pretty rudamentry. He's very awkward with his stance and is very slow at getting off. Struve should have a pretty time landing early and often. As well mccorkles td's are pretty underwheming. He will have the weight advtantage which will work to his advantage for getting some td's but Struve is very active off his back. Mccorkles top game and ground game are decent from what I've seen but his punches are very lumbering and slow. He took almost a full 2 rounds to finish a can in Ivey with top and back control for most of the time. Struve isnt going to just sit there. Finally, mccorkles carries around a lot of weight and is In his mid-thirties. His gas tank has never been tested. I dunno how much he is going to have left if it goes to the second round.
Oh and I don't think there is much of a comparison between mccorkle and morecraft/buentello. Their strengths and weakness are opposites and mccorkles striking isn't close to the level of them.Comment -
Also, Struve is still filling out. The kid is only 22 years old. He has said leading up to this fight he will be around 255lb, so the weight discrepancy will not be that much.Comment -
Adding:
Grant (+155) 1 unit to win 1.55 units
GSP by Sub (+310) 1 unit to win 3.1 units
Bocek/Hazelett FOTN (+875) 0.3 units to win 2.625 units
UFC 124 Recap:
Jim Miller (-110) 2.2 units to win 2 units
Natal (-140) 2.8 units to win 2 units
Struve (-145) 3.625 units to win 2.5 units
Pierson (+230) 1.5 units to win 3.45 units
GSP/Stevenson-Danzig Goes the Distance 2-fight parlay (-108) 2.16 units to win 2 units
Grant (+155) 1 unit to win 1.55 units
GSP by Sub (+310) 1 unit to win 3.1 units
Bocek/Hazelett FOTN (+875) 0.3 units to win 2.625 units
The only thing I may add is Fastest Sub/KO but Im waiting for the lines to shift.Comment -
What fastest sub/Ko's do you like Ecco? I've signed up to another booky that is only UK one that offers those type of bets. Thinking of taking Joe Daddy at +700 fastest sub, and McCorkle fastest TKO/KO at +1000.Comment -
I don't quite understand the Natal love. He's really not a good striker and Bongfelt is outright dangerous. Natal's BJJ is not translating at all. He couldn't make anything off the ground against Attonito, top or bottom. Didn't we learn anything from Paixao?Comment -
Not quite sure what garza/paixao has to do with natal/bongfeldt. 6'1 vs 5'6 compared to 6'0 vs 6'0. Plus how much can you learn from a 51 second fight. I guess I learned that a very tall guy will have an easier time landing a flying knee to a small guy shooting in, but I guess that I already knew that lol. In all honesty there isn't much in common between paixao and natal. Very different fighting styles even though their backgrounds have some similarities. Bongfeldt is a good and resilient fighter but he is a little wild and sloppy putting himself off balance and In vulnerable positions. Natal will have the advantage If it stays standing. I'm not sure how eager bong will be to be on the ground for 3 rounds with natal. Also I think ppl forget natal was owning attonito in the standup until he got rocked. He came out tenative after that and didn't look the same. He still came out and won the second round even though he still wasn't all there.Comment -
Yup, he said he has never been hit like that and it completely disoriented him. After the fight ended he asked his corner why his opponent was raising his arms when (he thought) they still had to fight the third round! I think Natal will look very impressive in this fight and should have the advantage everywhere.Comment -
I just meant about how much a BJJ black belt is worth when you need to get inside on a guy with no gi that can hit you in the face.
And "a little wild and sloppy putting himself off balance and In vulnerable positions" is oddly similar to what i was thinking about Natal. Attonito wasn't the first guy to wade through his kickspam to pick his shot on Rafael's rather static head. Betting against the more traveled and successful winger seems like a shaky investment.
The fact that we're not sure that Bongfelt doesn't want to go the ground on this one should say something. Bear in mind that not only did almost zero dividends materalize from Natal rolling with Attonito, but Jesse has subbed or controlled some pretty competent grapplers, namely a couple on your ticket right now.Comment -
No doubt, but Natal isnt going to be desparate for takedowns like Paixao. And yes, Natal isn't overly technical on the feet, but I believe his accuracy and timing are better than Bongfeldts and his power is deceptive.
As I stated, Natal wasn't even close to fully coherent after the knockdown. His groundgame was obviously going to suffer when his head was in a giant cloud. Yet he was still able to secure TD's and avoid most damage.
As for Bongfeldt beating/controlling some of the fighters I'm backing - beating yes, controlling, not so much. He was getting handled by Grant for 3 rounds until he pulled off the armbar and Pierson was working him over until Bongfeldt was able to sweep and finish him off after Sean started to gas himself out. Don't get me wrong, Bongfeldt is an absolute warrior, but he isnt the most technically gifted fighter. Could he win this one? For sure. But I have to go with what I've capped and a comparison of skillsets. I had Natal around -180 for this fight, so it was fairly simple for me to make the play. That doesn't always mean its the right side but thats all I can do. GL!Comment -
Adding:
Alves by TKO/GSP inside the distance 2-fight parlay (+400) 0.5 units to win 2 units
Alves Fastest TKO (+650) 0.3 units to win 1.95 units
Audinwood Quickest Sub (+975) 0.3 units to win 2.925 units
I wasn't going to touch the Alves fight but he looked amazing at the weigh-ins. He was ripped and didnt look drained. The Dolce Diet does it again! And man did he look confident. Just something small on him.
UFC 124 Recap:
Jim Miller (-110) 2.2 units to win 2 units
Natal (-140) 2.8 units to win 2 units
Struve (-145) 3.625 units to win 2.5 units
Pierson (+230) 1.5 units to win 3.45 units
Grant (+155) 1 unit to win 1.55 units
GSP/Stevenson-Danzig Goes the Distance 2-fight parlay (-108) 2.16 units to win 2 units
Alves by TKO/GSP inside the distance 2-fight parlay (+400) 0.5 units to win 2 units
GSP by Sub (+310) 1 unit to win 3.1 units
Bocek/Hazelett FOTN (+875) 0.3 units to win 2.625 units
Alves Fastest TKO (+650) 0.3 units to win 1.95 units
Audinwood Quickest Sub (+975) 0.3 units to win 2.925 units
GL to everyone this weekend!Comment -
Sorry, didnt see this earlier. As you can see, I like Alves by fastest KO and Audinwood by fastest sub. I actually like Makdessi by fast KO as well at +1100 as I think that fight is going to end in the first round, but I didnt want to get too carried away with props lol. I like your Stevenson bet, but as I have already bet it to go the distance Im staying away. I wouldnt be that surprised to see him hit that guillotine in in the first round though if Danzig goes in for a sloppy TD. The Alves play is a little square but I think he is going to come out with something to prove in this one.Comment -
Im thinking that a combination of Alves not being overly aggressive and Howard being pretty tough will lead to a latish stoppage/decision. Alves has a lot to lose in this one, I think he might come out quite tentative and just look to counter and pick Howard apart with leg kicks and then get more aggressive in the second or third round. Wasnt like Ellenberger finished Howard with a KO or anything in the last fight, it was through the cut from GnP as far as I can remember. But then I dont expect many TKOs/KOs in this event so even if he finished Howard late he might still get it! Struve, McCorkle and Makdessi (small play on Makdessi at +1400) are in the running for me and I got Joe Daddy at +2000 which is good value I think. I've gone a bit crazy with the Sub of the Night and KO of the Night type bets...added Audinwood quickest sub as well at +1400!Comment -
I like your card Ecco. I've got Miller, Struve, and Grant as well.Comment -
Tnx Hoff. GL tonight bud!Comment -
Good luck tonight Ecco...Milller FTW! And if Struve does win let's hope it's in an impressive enough fashion to receive KO or Sub of the Night, that way we both win something!Comment -
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U2 dream!Comment -
Pierson cashes easily as a +230 dog!! Out for the night, hope it continues to go well!Comment -
Any reason the line has moved on the Miller fight? He's now 2.25 (decimal) at bet365...Comment -
I sure picked the right guy to tail. NFJ! Thanks. I went 4-1-1. Not sure how but the Rafael "Sapo" Natal fight pushed, did they not fight?Comment -
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nice job,`cide....Comment -
Thx guys! As for the Natal fight, I was able to watch it this morning. He won the first 2 rounds clearly and then was gassed in the 3rd. Bongfeldt took over from there. I had the round 10-9 but 2 of the judges scored it a 10-8 so it was a majority draw. A little unlucky there but its all good.
Well I did pretty solid on all of my main picks, but none of the exotics cashed so that cost me a little profit on the night. Hope everyone's night went well!
UFC 124 Results: +2.39 units
MMA YTD: +54.7975 unitsComment -
Nice
, I had Pierson aswell. Keep up the good work Ecco.
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WEC 53:
alcantara (+160) 1.5 units to win 2.4 unitsComment
