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  • Eccocide
    SBR MVP
    • 01-12-09
    • 2126

    #841
    Originally posted by Eccocide
    A few words of warning. My two worst events this year were TUF 11 Finale (-6.025 units) and Strikeforce Heavy Artillery (-5.475 units). I tend not to be very good at TUF cards or Strikeforce cards, so this weekend could be a disaster .
    Even better!! Strikeforce Heavy Artillery was in St. Louis. Henderson vs Babalu is Strikeforce St. Louis II.....the bad omens are everywhere!
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    • jacktheknife
      SBR MVP
      • 09-25-10
      • 1217

      #842
      What do you think of Branch?
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      • Vaughany
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 03-07-10
        • 45563

        #843
        Just got Miller at +105 on Pinnacle
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        • lasker
          SBR MVP
          • 01-27-10
          • 1683

          #844
          Originally posted by Vaughany
          Just got Miller at +105 on Pinnacle
          have to go against you on this one, Vaugh. IMO Oliveira should be at least -175. I think he'll have the advantage wherever this fight goes. Miller's tough as nails but Oliveira (along with Dunham) is the future.
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          • Vaughany
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 03-07-10
            • 45563

            #845
            Originally posted by lasker
            have to go against you on this one, Vaugh. IMO Oliveira should be at least -175. I think he'll have the advantage wherever this fight goes. Miller's tough as nails but Oliveira (along with Dunham) is the future.
            I agree, Im on the Oliveira hype train as well but I think the line is about right due to Oliveira's lack of experience and Miller's ability to grind out decisions! I was big on Oliveira against Escudero because I knew he'd be able to submit Escudero if it went to the ground and because Escudero stand-up was overhyped after he KO'd Cole Miller and I was counting on Oliveira to use his range and keep on the outside. However, Miller is a lot more experienced and smarter than Escudero and will not get frustrated like Efrain did in that last round. Miller's stand-up shouldnt be underestimated either, just ask Duane Ludwig! I wouldnt necessarily say Oliveira has the edge in that area. Oliveira has unorthodox striking and doesn't protect his chin very well, he could definitely get caught a couple of times by Miller reasonably crisp boxing. My main play for this fight will be for it to go to decision as I feel the most likely outcome would be either of them winning on points. Obviously Oliveira could submit Miller if it goes to the ground, as although he's a black belt, Miller showed that he is vulnerable to getting caught in subs against Bocek. However, as I said above, Miller is an intelligent dude and I think will know that he has a better chance of winning this if he keeps it standing, and has the take down defence to prevent Oliveira from taking him down. Nonetheless, I'll be taking Oliveira for Submission of the Night as an extra hedge to the Miller to win and fight to go to decision plays!
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            • Eccocide
              SBR MVP
              • 01-12-09
              • 2126

              #846
              Originally posted by jacktheknife
              What do you think of Branch?
              I think the line is about right, no play for me. I think Branch has the advantage in the stand-up, hes striking and timing are more refined but Attonito has some power as he displayed vs Natal. I don't expect Branch to be able to get this to the ground. Attonito is a much better wrestler than Drwal and Drwal was able to stuff most of Branch's TDs. Branch telegraphs his takedowns pretty badly and doesnt really drive through his opponent making it pretty easy to sprawl against. I think Attonito will try to mix in some takedowns while not getting too aggressive to leave himself open. Branch hasn't shown a whole lot off of his back in the UFC other than a couple triangles here or there and at times he seems pretty content not trying to get back up to his feet. But if Attonito does get sloppy as he has shown a little in the past, he could end up in some bad positions.
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              • Eccocide
                SBR MVP
                • 01-12-09
                • 2126

                #847
                Originally posted by lasker
                have to go against you on this one, Vaugh. IMO Oliveira should be at least -175. I think he'll have the advantage wherever this fight goes. Miller's tough as nails but Oliveira (along with Dunham) is the future.
                Originally posted by Vaughany
                Just got Miller at +105 on Pinnacle
                This is a huge step up in competition for Oliveira. Miller has fought some of the best in the world and has only lost to 2 guys, Edgar and Maynard who were both better wrestlers than him. This wont be the case in this fight. He will be the bigger, stronger and more experienced fighter in this one. His BJJ is underrated and I think he will be fine being in Oliveira's guard. His standup is also pretty underrated although Oliveira will be the faster of the 2 fighters. Miller will try to get inside in this fight, work against the cage, wear down Oliveira and get some TD's to get the decision win.
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                • Eccocide
                  SBR MVP
                  • 01-12-09
                  • 2126

                  #848
                  Originally posted by Eccocide
                  TUF 12 Finale Recap:

                  Rick Story (+285) 2 units to win 5.7 units
                  Pokrajac (+210) 2 units to win 4.2 units
                  Wilkinson (+140) 2 units to win 2.8 units
                  Chivitchian (+140) 1 unit to win 1.4 units
                  Paixao/Toner 2-fight parlay (+118) 2 units to win 2.36 units
                  Grove (+300) 0.5 units to win 1.5 units


                  Strikeforce Recap:

                  St Preux (-125) 2.5 units to win 2 units
                  Henderson/Daley/Silva 3-fight parlay (+122) 1.5 units to win 1.83 units <---Square Parlay I know lol


                  UFC 124:

                  Miller (-110) 2.2 units to win 2 units <--- may add more depending on any further movement
                  Adding:

                  Campuzano (-130) 1.625 units to win 1.25 units

                  Pace looked like shit and came in over weight at the weigh-ins.
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                  • Eccocide
                    SBR MVP
                    • 01-12-09
                    • 2126

                    #849
                    Epic fail of a start, looks like the omens are striking again lol. 5dimes finally added some props for Strikeforce tonight. I love Silva/Kyle not going the distance as Silva should be able to finish him early (I Hope!). These might be a good fade considering my start to the night...

                    Adding:

                    Strikeforce:

                    Silva/Kyle Under 2.5 rounds (-150) 4.5 units to win 3 units
                    Henderson by TKO/KO (+320) 1 unit to win 3.2 units

                    Hope everyone has had a better start than me. GL!
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                    • Eccocide
                      SBR MVP
                      • 01-12-09
                      • 2126

                      #850
                      Horrible job on the TUF card. Rick Story saved me from a disaster with 5.7 units won. On the other hand, it was a clean sweep on the strikeforce card!!! Massive results there.

                      TUF 12 Finale Results: -3.425 units

                      Strikeforce Results: +10.03 units

                      +6.605 units on the night.


                      MMA YTD: +52.4075 units
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                      • Eccocide
                        SBR MVP
                        • 01-12-09
                        • 2126

                        #851
                        Just finished watching the Strikeforce card. What a knockout by Daley! Smith was out face first on the canvas, just beautiful! And Lawlor looked pretty badass with that beard. 5 fights, 4 KOs, pretty crazy card. St. Preaux was extremely impressive as he annihalated Radach.
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                        • brooks85
                          SBR Aristocracy
                          • 01-05-09
                          • 44709

                          #852
                          ya that ko was awesome. You know that is going to be on a highlight reel for a long time to come. I was barley paying attention to the fight, I glanced up and saw smith fall like a sack of potatoes. All I could do was laugh.
                          Last edited by brooks85; 12-05-10, 10:56 AM.
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                          • Educ8d Degener8
                            SBR MVP
                            • 01-12-10
                            • 3177

                            #853
                            Well done on SF Ecco!

                            Sh*t, wish I would've seen when 5dimes added props. Would've been interested in a Daley-Smith prop and that Henderson prop that you played. Solid job there.
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                            • lasker
                              SBR MVP
                              • 01-27-10
                              • 1683

                              #854
                              Great job yet again Ecco!
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                              • Eccocide
                                SBR MVP
                                • 01-12-09
                                • 2126

                                #855
                                Originally posted by lasker
                                Great job yet again Ecco!
                                Originally posted by Educ8d Degener8
                                Well done on SF Ecco!

                                Sh*t, wish I would've seen when 5dimes added props. Would've been interested in a Daley-Smith prop and that Henderson prop that you played. Solid job there.
                                Thanks guys!

                                Yeah I have no idea why they added props so late for Strikeforce. I was looking at props for UFC 124 and saw that they had put them up. I was actually going to take Under 1.5 in the Daley/Smith fight as well but the undercard for TUF had gone pretty bad so I didnt wanna add too much more lol.

                                Originally posted by brooks85
                                ya that ko was awesome. You know that is going to be on a highlight reel for a long time to come. I was barley paying attention to the fight, I glanced up and saw smith fall like a sack of potatoes. All I could do was laugh.
                                It was awesome! It was like straight out of a movie. Reminded me of Arlovski/Fedor the way Smith laid on the mat lol. He has some of the worst defense I've seen for a striker.
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                                • Vaughany
                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                  • 03-07-10
                                  • 45563

                                  #856
                                  Cant believe you got Hendo by TKO/KO at +320! Crazy value! Good job bro
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                                  • sirchadwick1
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 06-02-10
                                    • 1375

                                    #857
                                    Originally posted by Vaughany
                                    Cant believe you got Hendo by TKO/KO at +320! Crazy value! Good job bro
                                    No kidding! Wish I had seen that prop bet... would have been all over it. Instead, I went for value on Babalu thinking he had a shot at winning this by DEC/SUB. His chin didn't allow... yet again.
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                                    • Eccocide
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 01-12-09
                                      • 2126

                                      #858
                                      Yeah, they must have been expecting it to go to a decision. Henderson by Decision was +100 and fight over 2.5 round was like -180 or something. I was happy with it!
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                                      • Eccocide
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 01-12-09
                                        • 2126

                                        #859
                                        Originally posted by Eccocide

                                        UFC 124:

                                        Miller (-110) 2.2 units to win 2 units
                                        Adding:

                                        GSP/Stevenson-Danzig Goes the Distance 2-fight parlay (-108) 2.16 units to win 2 units
                                        Natal (-140) 2.8 units to win 2 units

                                        So pissed I missed the opener on Stungun @+140. Gunna see where the line goes before I make a play.
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                                        • Eccocide
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 01-12-09
                                          • 2126

                                          #860
                                          I missed my chance on the short line on this and it doesn't look likes it is going to come back much so Im going to book it now.

                                          Adding:

                                          Struve (-145) 3.625 units to win 2.5 units
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                                          • illmatick
                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                            • 01-05-09
                                            • 5456

                                            #861
                                            agree, i think we could see struve hit close to -200 after the weigh-ins.
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                                            • Eccocide
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 01-12-09
                                              • 2126

                                              #862
                                              Screw it, this Kim line is still dropping. Gunna play it now...

                                              Adding:

                                              UFC 125:

                                              Kim (-120) 3 units to win 2.5 units
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                                              • brooks85
                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                • 01-05-09
                                                • 44709

                                                #863
                                                Ive just wanted to unload every time I see that line move ha. I love stungun in this matchup, Im also liking vera, i hope that line keeps moving.
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                                                • Eccocide
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 01-12-09
                                                  • 2126

                                                  #864
                                                  Originally posted by brooks85
                                                  Ive just wanted to unload every time I see that line move ha. I love stungun in this matchup, Im also liking vera, i hope that line keeps moving.
                                                  I will be on Vera no doubt. Im watching that line closely, but I have a feeling its gunna be one of those ones that slowly climbs and then gets hammered down. Im scared im gunna wait too long lol.
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                                                  • brooks85
                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                    • 01-05-09
                                                    • 44709

                                                    #865
                                                    haha exactly, i just want to make sure I get a good line on him. Im glad did not try to get arb on the line when i saw it open -115, I thought vera would move to the favorite for sure.
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                                                    • Eccocide
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 01-12-09
                                                      • 2126

                                                      #866
                                                      Originally posted by brooks85
                                                      haha exactly, i just want to make sure I get a good line on him. Im glad did not try to get arb on the line when i saw it open -115, I thought vera would move to the favorite for sure.
                                                      Up to +140 now, how long do we wait? lol. I don't see it going any higher than +150, but the line has surprised me already.
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                                                      • Eccocide
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 01-12-09
                                                        • 2126

                                                        #867
                                                        Adding:

                                                        Pierson (+230) 1.5 units to win 3.45 units

                                                        Great value here in Pierson. I waited, hoping love would come in on Riddle and the line would go back to the opener, but I can't chance it dropping any further.

                                                        UFC 124 Recap (So Far):

                                                        Jim Miller (-110) 2.2 units to win 2 units
                                                        Natal (-140) 2.8 units to win 2 units
                                                        Struve (-145) 3.625 units to win 2.5 units
                                                        Pierson (+230) 1.5 units to win 3.45 units
                                                        GSP/Stevenson-Danzig Goes the Distance 2-fight parlay (-108) 2.16 units to win 2 units
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                                                        • brooks85
                                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                                          • 01-05-09
                                                          • 44709

                                                          #868
                                                          i dont get it, are people really betting thiago silva at -155 and more after a year lay off against vera?
                                                          I didnt think he had that much support, especially losing the decision to evans. Vera put a beating on couture and his last fight against jones isnt going to factor into this matchup in any way. Even if thiago comes in 100% healthy, he obviously wasn't ready for Drwal, and he has no ring rust vera is still a very tough matchup for him.
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                                                          • Eccocide
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 01-12-09
                                                            • 2126

                                                            #869
                                                            Originally posted by brooks85
                                                            i dont get it, are people really betting thiago silva at -155 and more after a year lay off against vera?
                                                            I didnt think he had that much support, especially losing the decision to evans. Vera put a beating on couture and his last fight against jones isnt going to factor into this matchup in any way. Even if thiago comes in 100% healthy, he obviously wasn't ready for Drwal, and he has no ring rust vera is still a very tough matchup for him.
                                                            Me either man, its crazy to me. I dunno if this is perception and overreaction to the Jones fight or what. Thiago on a long layoff, Vera has the length and speed, hes the better wrestler and grappler. It just moved to +155 on 5dimes. Im gunna hit it now and if keeps going, Ill hit it again.

                                                            UFC 125:

                                                            Vera (+155) 2 units to win 3.1 units
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                                                            • brooks85
                                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                                              • 01-05-09
                                                              • 44709

                                                              #870
                                                              nice!! and to think I was so close to pulling the trigger at +120 last night ha
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                                                              • terpkeg
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 10-26-09
                                                                • 2364

                                                                #871
                                                                Originally posted by Eccocide
                                                                Me either man, its crazy to me. I dunno if this is perception and overreaction to the Jones fight or what. Thiago on a long layoff, Vera has the length and speed, hes the better wrestler and grappler. It just moved to +155 on 5dimes. Im gunna hit it now and if keeps going, Ill hit it again.

                                                                UFC 125:

                                                                Vera (+155) 2 units to win 3.1 units

                                                                Just hit +155 as well. I think this is the peak. You can probably find my old anti Thiago Silva threads from my old posting days at theRX saying how overrated I thought he was. No reason to jump off the train now.
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                                                                • snake11eyes
                                                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                                                  • 07-28-10
                                                                  • 618

                                                                  #872
                                                                  Originally posted by Eccocide
                                                                  Adding:

                                                                  Pierson (+230) 1.5 units to win 3.45 units

                                                                  Great value here in Pierson. I waited, hoping love would come in on Riddle and the line would go back to the opener, but I can't chance it dropping any further.
                                                                  Riddle is a tough customer, having said that I dont think he should be -285. I'm just not sure Pierson has any value in this spot either. This is a no play for me.
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                                                                  • Vaughany
                                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                                    • 03-07-10
                                                                    • 45563

                                                                    #873
                                                                    Originally posted by snake11eyes
                                                                    Riddle is a tough customer, having said that I dont think he should be -285. I'm just not sure Pierson has any value in this spot either. This is a no play for me.
                                                                    Cant help but remember what Osipczak did to Riddle...completely neutralised his wrestling and GNP and then reversed and TKO'd him in the third round. Perhaps Pierson can pull off something similar.
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                                                                    • Vaughany
                                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                                      • 03-07-10
                                                                      • 45563

                                                                      #874
                                                                      Originally posted by Eccocide
                                                                      Me either man, its crazy to me. I dunno if this is perception and overreaction to the Jones fight or what. Thiago on a long layoff, Vera has the length and speed, hes the better wrestler and grappler. It just moved to +155 on 5dimes. Im gunna hit it now and if keeps going, Ill hit it again.

                                                                      UFC 125:

                                                                      Vera (+155) 2 units to win 3.1 units

                                                                      Yeah this should be much closer to Evens IMO. Thiago's only advantage in this is power and aggression which isnt enough to warrant him being the favourite! Vera is +135 or something on pinnacle so thing I'm gonna hold off and just take him by decision at +200 or better.
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                                                                      • Eccocide
                                                                        SBR MVP
                                                                        • 01-12-09
                                                                        • 2126

                                                                        #875
                                                                        Originally posted by terpkeg
                                                                        Just hit +155 as well. I think this is the peak. You can probably find my old anti Thiago Silva threads from my old posting days at theRX saying how overrated I thought he was. No reason to jump off the train now.
                                                                        Nice, glad to see you on it as well!

                                                                        Originally posted by snake11eyes
                                                                        Riddle is a tough customer, having said that I dont think he should be -285. I'm just not sure Pierson has any value in this spot either. This is a no play for me.
                                                                        Originally posted by Vaughany
                                                                        Cant help but remember what Osipczak did to Riddle...completely neutralised his wrestling and GNP and then reversed and TKO'd him in the third round. Perhaps Pierson can pull off something similar.
                                                                        This is the first time hes faced someone with as good as/better wrestling than him.I dont think he will be able to go his typical route of putting a guy on his back and doing damage for 3 rounds. I'm curious to see how he deals with being stuffed or planted on his back. Pierson has some nasty GnP and great TDs. His standup isnt that great but he does have some power and good transitions. Riddle will have the speed and cardio advantage though, so Im hoping Pierson can do his damage within the first half of the fight.

                                                                        Originally posted by Vaughany
                                                                        Yeah this should be much closer to Evens IMO. Thiago's only advantage in this is power and aggression which isnt enough to warrant him being the favourite! Vera is +135 or something on pinnacle so thing I'm gonna hold off and just take him by decision at +200 or better.
                                                                        Yeah thats a good possibility, but even though Vera hasnt been much of a finisher at 205lb, I think he can finish Thiago. Thiago's defense isnt particularly good and it will be interesting to see how he deals with the clinch. Im glad this bout got promoted to the main card!
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