UFC Fight Night: Thompson vs. Thatch (February 14, 2015)

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  • FightFightFight
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    • 03-21-11
    • 594

    #141
    Wow! He's really taking it hard. A little pathetic.
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    • fitguy67
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      • 03-13-11
      • 5082

      #142
      Originally posted by fitguy67
      Good luck to all, whichever side of the physical-mismatch you're on...(outside of the bible...Goliath usually wins)
      in fairness...the more obviously physically endowed don't always win...four relatively soft-bodied guys that have made a career out of beating much-more-imposing monsters on the regular are Jeremy Horn (a true pioneer of the sport, but looked like a bus-driver), Fedor Emilianenko (who in today's UFC would be a MW...smashed every top HW in the world for a decade), Daniel Cormier ("the black Fedor"...undefeated at HW...but at LHW still looks like he could go down a class...if he could just stay away from the "cake and chicken"), and Shlemenko (another guy with a bus-driver body)...who just an hour ago cost me a bit of coin against Manhoef.

      So, the tale of the tape definitely ain't everything...but it should NEVER be overlooked...and you should have a DAMN good reason to go against it...in this Bendo/Hatch fight...it was amazing how everyone just ASSUMED Bendo would have the cardio advantage...maybe he will, we'll see...but to just assume that a handy advantage (and the "weathering the storm" path to victory that hinges on it) exists to counteract the obvious size disadvantage is anything but sharp...it's wishful thinking...and with a payout well south of 2-to-1, uber-expensive wishful thinking.
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      • Ron_Paul_2012
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        • 01-31-13
        • 3953

        #143
        Originally posted by fitguy67
        reliable sources indicated that all/most the geniuses at the "other" place will have once again let their wannabe-sharpness lead them to overlook the obvious physical advantages of the opponent...as they did in enthusiastically backing
        *Shlemenko over Tito, then
        *Cormier over Jones...
        and now--going for the faux-sharp myopia trifecta--by backing
        *Bendo over Thatch

        May god have mercy on our bankrolls! Good luck to all, whichever side of the physical-mismatch you're on...(outside of the bible...Goliath usually wins)
        Don't forget Alex Chambers.
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        • fitguy67
          SBR Hall of Famer
          • 03-13-11
          • 5082

          #144
          oops!...i just went back and read this little exchange...
          Originally posted by Ron_Paul_2012
          So are all the knuckleheads "over there" on Bendo? Thatch is going to bring the RUCKUS!

          Originally posted by marzwoody
          nope i think there all on thatch actually.
          meaning that the brain-trusts "over there" may have to settle for the MyopiaTripleCrown...for backing an obviously-underweight Shlemenko vs. Tito, an obviously-underweight Chambers vs. Day, and a terribly-under-reached Cormier vs. Jones...

          how they managed to miss this obvious mush-play of an undersized Bendo puzzles me...and makes me fear a bit for my Thatch and Thatch-3.5 positions

          oh well, "blind squirrel", finding nuts and all that...
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          • UncleChael
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            • 10-30-13
            • 3979

            #145
            Bensons gonna get fukked up.
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            • BIGDAY
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              • 02-17-10
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              #146
              Only one play today for me.

              Kind of glad Lentz was scratch or I might have been sweating some JUUUICE. lol
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              • PaperTrail07
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                • 08-29-08
                • 20423

                #147
                After all the shit I say I find myself betting thatch lol.....hope you guys are right
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                • JIBBBY
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                  • 12-10-09
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                  #148
                  Man against boy.. All in on Thatch!!!!
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                  • fitguy67
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                    • 03-13-11
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                    #149
                    Originally posted by PaperTrail07
                    After all the shit I say I find myself betting thatch lol.....hope you guys are right
                    we or together pal...

                    i had some earlier at -120, and just topped it up with some more at -138

                    also took thatch -3.5hc, +120
                    thatch itd,+140
                    u2.5, +135
                    _____________
                    hey pt, why don't you hit the hemp-inspired "pre-view event" mode this afternoon...and come up with another one of your small-stake/mega-payout parlays...feel free to turn off the left-brain and include Bendo as a winner in this play, if so moved...i'll definitely tail
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                    • PaperTrail07
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                      • 08-29-08
                      • 20423

                      #150
                      I mean You said it.....Thatch just has WAYYYY to much size here.....I have a feeling we Party!!!
                      Originally posted by fitguy67
                      we or together pal...

                      i had some earlier at -120, and just topped it up with some more at -138

                      also took thatch -3.5hc, +120
                      thatch itd,+140
                      u2.5, +135
                      _____________
                      hey pt, why don't you hit the hemp-inspired "pre-view event" mode this afternoon...and come up with another one of your small-stake/mega-payout parlays...feel free to turn off the left-brain and include Bendo as a winner in this play, if so moved...i'll definitely tail
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                      • PaperTrail07
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                        • 08-29-08
                        • 20423

                        #151
                        #1) UFC Fighting
                        Selection : B. Thatch 2/14/2015 9:35PM - (PST) Money Line -145 for Game

                        #2) UFC Fighting
                        Selection : M. Holloway 2/14/2015 9:05PM - (PST) Money Line -420 for Game

                        #3) UFC Fighting
                        Selection : N. Magny 2/14/2015 8:30PM - (PST) Money Line -785 for Game

                        #4) UFC Fighting
                        Selection : M R Dos Prazeres 2/14/2015 7:35PM - (PST) Money Line +125 for Game

                        #5) UFC Fighting
                        Selection : R. Borg 2/14/2015 7:05PM - (PST) Money Line -880 for Game

                        #6) UFC Fighting
                        Selection : R. Lima 2/14/2015 6:05PM - (PST) Money Line -130 for Game

                        #7) UFC Fighting
                        Selection : Z. Makovsky 2/14/2015 5:00PM - (PST) Money Line -105 for Game

                        #8) UFC Fighting
                        Selection : J. Moontasri 2/14/2015 4:30PM - (PST) Money Line -225 for Game

                        Risking : 30.00 To Win : 854.55 USD
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                        • PaperTrail07
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                          #152
                          #1) UFC Fighting
                          Selection : B. Henderson 2/14/2015 9:35PM - (PST) Money Line +125 for Game

                          #2) UFC Fighting
                          Selection : C. Miller 2/14/2015 9:05PM - (PST) Money Line +320 for Game

                          #3) UFC Fighting
                          Selection : D. Kelly 2/14/2015 8:05PM - (PST) Money Line +135 for Game

                          #4) UFC Fighting
                          Selection : M R Dos Prazeres 2/14/2015 7:35PM - (PST) Money Line +125 for Game

                          #5) UFC Fighting
                          Selection : E. Escudero 2/14/2015 6:05PM - (PST) Money Line +110 for Game

                          #6) UFC Fighting
                          Selection : T. Elliot 2/14/2015 5:00PM - (PST) Money Line -115 for Game

                          Risking : 35.00 To Win : 6,831.10 USD
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                          • PaperTrail07
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                            • 08-29-08
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                            #153
                            Straight Bets on Thatch, Prazeras, Makovsky, Moontasari----GL EVERYONE Lets make some $$
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                            • JIBBBY
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                              • 12-10-09
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                              #154
                              ^^Big spender Paper with those poorlay's.. Good luck man..

                              I stick to my measly 5 buck beeeotch card parlay bets myself..

                              Feb 14, 2015 01:57:16 PM 10 Team Parlay #396542891
                              Mixed Martial Arts (Game) Moneyline
                              Both must Fight for Action.
                              UFC Fight Night 60 - 1st Bank Center, Broomfield, Colorado, United States
                              (6002) James "Moonwalker" Moontasri -235 Feb 14/15@07:30p
                              Competitor: (6003) Cody "The Pfist" Pfister
                              Mixed Martial Arts (Game) Moneyline
                              Both must Fight for Action.
                              UFC Fight Night 60 - 1st Bank Center, Broomfield, Colorado, United States
                              (6005) Tim Elliott -115 Feb 14/15@08:00p
                              Competitor: (6004) Zach "Fun Size" Makovsky
                              Mixed Martial Arts (Game) Moneyline
                              Both must Fight for Action.
                              UFC Fight Night 60 - 1st Bank Center, Broomfield, Colorado, United States
                              (6006) Chas "The Scrapper" Skelly -240 Feb 14/15@08:30p
                              Competitor: (6007) Jim "The Beast" Alers
                              Mixed Martial Arts (Game) Moneyline
                              Both must Fight for Action.
                              UFC Fight Night 60 - 1st Bank Center, Broomfield, Colorado, United States
                              (6009) Rodrigo "Monstro" Lima -130 Feb 14/15@09:00p
                              Competitor: (6008) Efrain Escudero
                              Mixed Martial Arts (Game) Moneyline
                              Both must Fight for Action.
                              UFC Fight Night 60 - 1st Bank Center, Broomfield, Colorado, United States
                              (6010) Ray "The Tazmexican Devil" Borg -900 Feb 14/15@10:00p
                              Competitor: (6011) Chris "The Greek Assassin" Kelades
                              Mixed Martial Arts (Game) Moneyline
                              Both must Fight for Action.
                              UFC Fight Night 60 - 1st Bank Center, Broomfield, Colorado, United States
                              (6013) Michel "Trator" Prazeres +130 Feb 14/15@10:30p
                              Competitor: (6012) Kevin "The Motown Phenom" Lee
                              Mixed Martial Arts (Game) Moneyline
                              Both must Fight for Action.
                              UFC Fight Night 60 - 1st Bank Center, Broomfield, Colorado, United States
                              (6014) Patrick "The Beast Of The East" Walsh -170 Feb 14/15@10:45p
                              Competitor: (6015) Daniel Kelly
                              Mixed Martial Arts (Game) Moneyline
                              Both must Fight for Action.
                              UFC Fight Night 60 - 1st Bank Center, Broomfield, Colorado, United States
                              (6016) Neil Magny -700 Feb 14/15@11:00p
                              Competitor: (6017) Kiichi "Strasser" Kunimoto
                              Mixed Martial Arts (Game) Moneyline
                              Both must Fight for Action.
                              UFC Fight Night 60 - 1st Bank Center, Broomfield, Colorado, United States
                              (6018) Max "Blessed" Holloway -400 Feb 14/15@11:30p
                              Competitor: (6019) Cole "Magrinho" Miller
                              Mixed Martial Arts (Game) Moneyline
                              Both must Fight for Action.
                              UFC Fight Night 60 - 1st Bank Center, Broomfield, Colorado, United States
                              (6020) Brandon "Rukus" Thatch -155 Feb 14/15@11:45p
                              Competitor: (6021) Benson "Hendo" Henderson
                              Web US$ 5.00 US$ 313.60
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                              • Iamcloud
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                                • 02-10-15
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                                #155
                                Odds have changed so much in the last 2 weeks. Betting was really lucrative on Holloway/Magny 2 weeks ago. Henderson got a nice push that made him and Thatch almost even because of people not knowing who Thatch is. That changed drastically in the last day after the weight ins and some articles. We have to be step ahead of the "general public" to get better odds in the future.
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                                • fitguy67
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 03-13-11
                                  • 5082

                                  #156
                                  paper, you put the small dog prazeres in both versions of your rainmaker...and i see the money's moved in that direction a bit overall as well (from +170 open to +135ish now)...

                                  any thinking on this fight (from pt, or anyone else familiar with these fighters) 'preciated
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                                  • JIBBBY
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                                    • 12-10-09
                                    • 83686

                                    #157
                                    Over/Under bets -

                                    Decided to hit this 2 teamer rounds bet below... Was gonna throw Chas Skelly over -200 in this parlay but came in too late with it.. Going solo with that bet.. $200 to win $100

                                    Parlay $100.00 $91.00 U.F.C. U.F.C. - Michel Prazeres vs Kevin LeeTotal O 2½ -245 for Fight Lines U.F.C. U.F.C. - Tim Elliott vs Zach MakovskyTotal O 2½ -280 for Fight Lines
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                                    • UncleChael
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                                      • 10-30-13
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                                      #158
                                      Makovsky gonna kill him @+100 odds!!! Take em! 4 hours till fight time.
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                                      • PaperTrail07
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                                        • 08-29-08
                                        • 20423

                                        #159
                                        HaHa Jibbbby Kind of 35$ is change to almost anyone......ty for the vibes though
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                                        • PaperTrail07
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                                          • 08-29-08
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                                          #160
                                          Personally I have a lot of respect for Prazeres and Lee has too much hype....I think it just fits Prazeres Style...He will be too strong here IMO
                                          Originally posted by fitguy67
                                          paper, you put the small dog prazeres in both versions of your rainmaker...and i see the money's moved in that direction a bit overall as well (from +170 open to +135ish now)...

                                          any thinking on this fight (from pt, or anyone else familiar with these fighters) 'preciated
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                                          • PaperTrail07
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                                            • 08-29-08
                                            • 20423

                                            #161
                                            Prazeres could possibly kill this $$
                                            Originally posted by JIBBBY
                                            Over/Under bets -

                                            Decided to hit this 2 teamer rounds bet below... Was gonna throw Chas Skelly over -200 in this parlay but came in too late with it.. Going solo with that bet.. $200 to win $100

                                            Parlay $100.00 $91.00 U.F.C. U.F.C. - Michel Prazeres vs Kevin LeeTotal O 2½ -245 for Fight Lines U.F.C. U.F.C. - Tim Elliott vs Zach MakovskyTotal O 2½ -280 for Fight Lines
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                                            • UncleChael
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                                              • 10-30-13
                                              • 3979

                                              #162
                                              When Makovsky chokes him out it's gonna be killed.
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                                              • fitguy67
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                                                • 03-13-11
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                                                #163
                                                Originally posted by PaperTrail07
                                                Personally I have a lot of respect for Prazeres and Lee has too much hype....I think it just fits Prazeres Style...He will be too strong here IMO
                                                good enough...if you got prazzy winning in both of the pre-event simulations you ran in your smokey alpha-state mind...that's good enough for me...i remember a handful of events ago, i just couldn't picture--literally, i couldn't construct any video simulations in my mind in which--Shogun would beat OSP...the left-brain, looking at the -200ish odds on Shogun wanted to see it...but the mind just couldn't/wouldn't do it...same with Phil Davis over Rumble a while back--just couldn't picture it...even tho' he was, again a -200-ish favorite...

                                                and folding in the fact that Prazzy's the only dog the Jib-monster took the trouble to include in his otherwise all-chalk parlay...means Prazzy it is

                                                __________

                                                capping individual fights and 2-leggers is a left-brain logical objective process...
                                                but putting together a multi-legged lottery-payout ticket is the opposite: right-brained/intuitive/subjective
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                                                • UncleChael
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                                                  #164
                                                  Makovsky!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!
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                                                  • PaperTrail07
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                                                    • 08-29-08
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                                                    #165
                                                    haha I lost a nice chunk of change betting Phil Davis in that fight......SMH>.....
                                                    Originally posted by fitguy67
                                                    good enough...if you got prazzy winning in both of the pre-event simulations you ran in your smokey alpha-state mind...that's good enough for me...i remember a handful of events ago, i just couldn't picture--literally, i couldn't construct any video simulations in my mind in which--Shogun would beat OSP...the left-brain, looking at the -200ish odds on Shogun wanted to see it...but the mind just couldn't/wouldn't do it...same with Phil Davis over Rumble a while back--just couldn't picture it...even tho' he was, again a -200-ish favorite...

                                                    and folding in the fact that Prazzy's the only dog the Jib-monster took the trouble to include in his otherwise all-chalk parlay...means Prazzy it is

                                                    __________

                                                    capping individual fights and 2-leggers is a left-brain logical objective process...
                                                    but putting together a multi-legged lotter-payout ticket is the opposite: right-brained/intuitive/subjective
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                                                    • JIBBBY
                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                      • 12-10-09
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                                                      #166
                                                      Originally posted by UncleChael
                                                      Makovsky!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!
                                                      Good luck with that Unc..

                                                      I think Tim Elliot gets him in a decision win.. Both are grinders and hard to finish and that's why I took the over.. Tim got choked out by Benavidez in his last fight and I certainly don't see that happening again in this fight..

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                                                      • PaperTrail07
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                                                        • 08-29-08
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                                                        #167
                                                        Is there Value on either side of the Holloway fight? Don't see him finishing the fight but you'd figure he wins via Decision.....Miller somehow races up to over +400 Im on it....Right ? lol
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                                                        • JIBBBY
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                                                          • 12-10-09
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                                                          #168
                                                          Originally posted by PaperTrail07
                                                          Prazeres could possibly kill this $$
                                                          Maybe but Kevin Lee is a pretty durable kid.. His last 3 fights all went to the cards.. http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Kevin-Lee-84342
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                                                          • PaperTrail07
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                                                            #169
                                                            Same with the borg fight....it almost shouldn't be happening....we get it Borg is a ver skilled fighter...-880 no play +580 on the other side....F off....mayb if it was +800 or more...
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                                                            • PaperTrail07
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                                                              #170
                                                              Agree....I see prazares tossing him around
                                                              Originally posted by JIBBBY
                                                              Maybe but Kevin Lee is a pretty durable kid.. His last 3 fights all went to the cards.. http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Kevin-Lee-84342
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                                                              • JIBBBY
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                                                                • 12-10-09
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                                                                #171
                                                                Pocket change prop bets I have up on the board.. Long shots but I'm thinking a couple will land which will then turn a profit.... (thinking Thatch props will hit mainly, maybe the Holloway one too as all the others are just back up insurance for my straight plays if they go sour)

                                                                292377448-1 2/11/15 7:23pm $20.00 $100.00 Pending 2/14/15 11:59pm Props Fighting 1015 Thatch wins in round 1 +500* <small>vs</small> Any other result
                                                                292323446-1 2/11/15 12:28pm $5.00 $65.00 Pending 2/14/15 11:30pm Props Fighting 1227 Kunimoto wins by submission +1300* <small>vs</small> Any other result
                                                                291749444-1 2/7/15 8:41pm $10.00 $52.00 Pending 2/14/15 11:00pm Props Fighting 1331 Kelly wins by submission +520* <small>vs</small> Any other result
                                                                291738044-1 2/7/15 7:48pm $40.00 $80.00 Pending 2/14/15 11:59pm Props Fighting 1133 Holloway wins by TKO/KO +200* <small>vs</small> Any other result
                                                                291631444-1 2/7/15 2:01pm $40.00 $68.00 Pending 2/14/15 11:59pm Props Fighting 1037 Thatch wins by TKO/KO +170* <small>vs</small> Any other result
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                                                                • fitguy67
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                                                                  • 03-13-11
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                                                                  #172
                                                                  Originally posted by Iamcloud
                                                                  Odds have changed so much in the last 2 weeks. Betting was really lucrative on Holloway/Magny 2 weeks ago. Henderson got a nice push that made him and Thatch almost even because of people not knowing who Thatch is. That changed drastically in the last day after the weight ins and some articles. We have to be step ahead of the "general public" to get better odds in the future.
                                                                  good post...and in exactly this context, I'm pleased to announce the first nomination for the sub-forum's first-annual "sharp as a bowling ball" award...

                                                                  to build a little suspense (and to prevent those who claim to here "just to get betpoints" from seeing it accidentally), you'll have to go back to page two of this thread...then read everything from the top of that page until you get to post #39...which is the nomination, and early prohibitive favorite...
                                                                  _______________

                                                                  don't be TOO hard on the author...he's still reeling from a strong shot of ForumDrama "tabasco sauce" that was snuck into his preparation-H yesterday (damage was minimized as the mods mercifully pulled the offending thread before it ate too deeply into his "business end")...so whatever soothing ointment is now being used, it is hoped that nomination for this award is received in a constuctive fashion, as an offering from those "left behind at this place" to help "rub it in"...but be sure to do so over at the "other place" please!
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                                                                  • PaperTrail07
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                                                                    • 08-29-08
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                                                                    #173
                                                                    Perfectly predicted the opposite lol.....head WAS in the ballpark though....he looked undersized/weaker.....Thatch got more of a push
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                                                                    • JIBBBY
                                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                                      • 12-10-09
                                                                      • 83686

                                                                      #174
                                                                      I forgot to mention my under round bets.. I just have this one 2 teamer pending... That's about all I got other then all my straight plays.. Showed my hand on this event thread...

                                                                      02/14 01:23 PM 1469866856- 1 Parlay $95.00 $323.00 U.F.C. U.F.C. - Benson Henderson vs Brandon ThatchTotal U 2½ +115 for Fight Lines U.F.C. U.F.C. - Cole Miller vs Max HollowayTotal U 2½ +105 for Fight Lines
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                                                                      • Unwritten Law
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                                                                        • 10-31-13
                                                                        • 2532

                                                                        #175
                                                                        Going with Thatch here as well.
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