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  • barts185
    SBR Wise Guy
    • 12-13-09
    • 815

    #1156
    Originally posted by Formulawiz
    Todays ML plays. FAV must be < -140

    LAA must be at -140 to be a play, no more or no less.
    The projected ML for LAA is +115, not -115, so I'm not sure how they can only be a play at exactly -140.
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    • staf
      SBR MVP
      • 11-11-07
      • 2521

      #1157
      Originally posted by HoulihansTX
      [B][I][COLOR=#4b0082]

      Could someone takeup the duties of backtracking, or tracking from this point forth how well the system do when plays overlay? Yesterday was awesome. I hope every cashed, and have a great week.
      Here's what I get:
      Betting with the majority
      Since April 25th 303-269 +38.80 units
      Since May 15th 197-166 +25.45 units

      Betting on games with one or more prediction on only one of the teams (non-conflicting)
      Since April 25th 252-210 +49.43 units
      Since May 15th 156-132 +18.13 units

      Just for the record, I stopped tracking predictions posted in this thread about a month ago.
      The last month's information is based on my own interpretations of the sportrends tables and also includes my lose by 2+ system/filter from the PTPP page and excludes the H/A system.
      Last edited by staf; 06-27-11, 04:28 PM.
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      • barts185
        SBR Wise Guy
        • 12-13-09
        • 815

        #1158
        Originally posted by staf
        Here's what I get:
        Betting with the majority
        Since April 24th 303-269 +38.80 units
        Since May 15th 197-166 +25.45 units

        Betting on games with one or more prediction on only one of the teams (non-conflicting)
        Since April 25th 252-210 +49.43 units
        Since May 15th 156-132 +18.13 units

        Just for the record, I stopped tracking predictions made in this thread about a month ago.
        The last month's information is based on my own interpretations of the sportrends tables and also includes my lose by 2+ system/filter from the PTPP page and excludes the H/A system.
        Thanks.

        Do you have an updated record or spreadsheet for your lose by 2+ system?
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        • Formulawiz
          Restricted User
          • 01-12-09
          • 1589

          #1159
          Originally posted by barts185
          The projected ML for LAA is +115, not -115, so I'm not sure how they can only be a play at exactly -140.
          I am not sure what your looking at but LAA is between -135 and -137 now.
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          • Tommygunn
            SBR Wise Guy
            • 02-26-09
            • 669

            #1160
            Originally posted by Formulawiz
            I am not sure what your looking at but LAA is between -135 and -137 now.

            Barts isn't talking about the current line he's talking about the projected line. LAA are projected at +115 not -115. So anything between -110 and -140 is a play. Not just -140 that you posted in your original ML picks.
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            • barts185
              SBR Wise Guy
              • 12-13-09
              • 815

              #1161
              Originally posted by Formulawiz
              I am not sure what your looking at but LAA is between -135 and -137 now.
              I'm looking at your post where you say "LAA must be at -140 to be a play, no more or no less."

              Then I'm looking at the ML page, where it shows the projected ML for LAA to be +115.

              Then I'm asking why LAA must be exactly -140? I would understand if the projected ML for LAA was -115. But the projected ML for LAA is +115 so I don't understand how you go from that to -140, a difference of 55 cents instead of 25 cents.
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              • staf
                SBR MVP
                • 11-11-07
                • 2521

                #1162
                Originally posted by barts185
                Thanks.

                Do you have an updated record or spreadsheet for your lose by 2+ system?
                The lose by 2+ system, since May 12th, is 103-80 +26.48 units.
                Using the old PTPP as a filter would remove 31 wins, 45 loses, and a loss of 11.76 units, thus resulting in 72-35 +38.24 units.

                I've been asked if we should bet more on a team if there are more predictions on them.
                The answer to this is no.
                Prior to May 15th this would have worked, but since May 15th the teams with 2+ predictions haven't been doing any better than the ones with just one prediction.
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                • Formulawiz
                  Restricted User
                  • 01-12-09
                  • 1589

                  #1163
                  When I first looked at LAA they were -115. I think sportrends changed LAA to +115 after I posted early this morning at 7:00 am. Therefore LAA would be a play
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                  • Small Timer
                    SBR Sharp
                    • 01-12-11
                    • 389

                    #1164
                    Originally posted by staf
                    Here's what I get:
                    Betting with the majority
                    Since April 25th 303-269 +38.80 units
                    Since May 15th 197-166 +25.45 units

                    Betting on games with one or more prediction on only one of the teams (non-conflicting)
                    Since April 25th 252-210 +49.43 units
                    Since May 15th 156-132 +18.13 units

                    Just for the record, I stopped tracking predictions posted in this thread about a month ago.
                    The last month's information is based on my own interpretations of the sportrends tables and also includes my lose by 2+ system/filter from the PTPP page and excludes the H/A system.
                    Thanks for the info, looks like I should be paying closer attention to overlaps, I only noticed themhaphazardly at times.
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                    • agos
                      SBR Hustler
                      • 01-30-11
                      • 54

                      #1165
                      Impressive records, Staf.
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                      • Formulawiz
                        Restricted User
                        • 01-12-09
                        • 1589

                        #1166
                        ML system went 1-0, +1 unit

                        YTD 68-38, 21.3 units

                        Plays later today
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                        • Formulawiz
                          Restricted User
                          • 01-12-09
                          • 1589

                          #1167
                          Todays ML plays. FAV must be < -140

                          TOR, BAL, TB, SD, LAA, SEA
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                          • ShivaBowl
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 03-09-10
                            • 5133

                            #1168
                            Originally posted by staf
                            The lose by 2+ system, since May 12th, is 103-80 +26.48 units. Using the old PTPP as a filter would remove 31 wins, 45 loses, and a loss of 11.76 units, thus resulting in 72-35 +38.24 units. I've been asked if we should bet more on a team if there are more predictions on them. The answer to this is no. Prior to May 15th this would have worked, but since May 15th the teams with 2+ predictions haven't been doing any better than the ones with just one prediction.
                            Your information is correct.
                            Staf, if you would like to takeover the P/T System and post it daily, let me know?
                            PM me, Thanks
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                            • ShivaBowl
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 03-09-10
                              • 5133

                              #1169
                              Originally posted by Tommygunn
                              Barts isn't talking about the current line he's talking about the projected line. LAA are projected at +115 not -115. So anything between -110 and -140 is a play. Not just -140 that you posted in your original ML picks.
                              Right, no one cares about the books line, we cant control line movement < >
                              If your posting plays that have line constraints then post the line parameters for that play.
                              I am getting tired with the back and fourth again this year with the M/L system.
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                              • ShivaBowl
                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                • 03-09-10
                                • 5133

                                #1170
                                TPR system went 0-1 yesterday.
                                Start Date 05/01
                                57-66 –12.32u

                                H/A system went 1-0 yesterday.
                                Start Date 05/29
                                35-23 +7.69u

                                P/T Power Plays went 1-0 yesterday.
                                Start Date 06/12
                                13-11 +1.75


                                TPR System Plays
                                Filter No Play if >-150
                                BOS 1.9
                                TOR 1.1
                                KC 1.2 No play SD W/2

                                H/A System Plays
                                Filter No Play if >-150
                                PHI 94.1—850.6
                                CWS 61.5—292.7
                                OAK 55.5—380.2 No Play OAK >-150
                                FYI: H/A numbers do not support plays on DET or the NYY.
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                                • ShivaBowl
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 03-09-10
                                  • 5133

                                  #1171
                                  I need someone to takeover the P/T System.
                                  I will help you in anyway I can.
                                  Thanks
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                                  • BrewMaster
                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                    • 12-03-10
                                    • 555

                                    #1172
                                    27Jun11 Result: 1-2
                                    Record Official Start 15May11: 82-74 (+7.92 units)

                                    Scientific Approach 28Jun11:


                                    NYM, -115 (np <+110)
                                    NYY, -227
                                    BOS, -182
                                    PIT, -115 (np <+110)
                                    CIN, -299
                                    WAS, -145 (np >-120)
                                    ATL, -140 (np >-115)

                                    Filtered (STL, KC, SF)
                                    System NO PLAY if >-150. Good Luck
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                                    • Tommygunn
                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                      • 02-26-09
                                      • 669

                                      #1173
                                      Originally posted by ShivaBowl
                                      I need someone to takeover the P/T System.
                                      I will help you in anyway I can.
                                      Thanks
                                      I would but I'm still learning the systems. I don't really feel comfortable posting a systems plays till I have trailed for a year and am sure my posts are correct.
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                                      • Tommygunn
                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                        • 02-26-09
                                        • 669

                                        #1174
                                        Take Chi W Sox W/Floyd over Colorado W/Hammel NO PLAY if COL < -130
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                                        • HoulihansTX
                                          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                          • 02-12-09
                                          • 30566

                                          #1175
                                          Originally posted by HoulihansTX
                                          Official start (May 15 - Current)[/i][/b]
                                          Overall

                                          (127-105)54% +19.05 Units

                                          ___________________
                                          Added Filter: No Play -150 or higher.

                                          June 27

                                          Bullpen Projection System

                                          KC 4.61 L (+145)
                                          Atl 3.79 W (+105)
                                          Wash 2.67L (+125)
                                          Dodgers 1.11 W (+105)
                                          March 26 to May 14
                                          Overall
                                          (68-52) +22.56 Units

                                          Official start (May 15 - Current)

                                          Overall

                                          (129-107)54% +19.15 Units
                                          ___________________
                                          Added Filter: No Play -150 or higher.

                                          June 28

                                          Bullpen Projection System

                                          Cleve 6.73
                                          Balty 5.80
                                          Wash 4.72
                                          Atl 3.96
                                          CWS 3.82
                                          San Fran 3.41
                                          (Only GM1)
                                          Cincy 3.25
                                          Toronto 2.76
                                          Philly 1.82 **

                                          No Plays
                                          Yanks np(Brew W2) 8.46
                                          KC np(Padres W2) 3.35
                                          Oak np >-150 1.41
                                          Mets np(Det W2) 1.29
                                          TX np L2 1.02


                                          **
                                          (Phillies Closer, Madson, put on DL today)
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                                          • joeytunes
                                            SBR Sharp
                                            • 12-29-10
                                            • 449

                                            #1176
                                            brew...im i wrong mil is on a 3 game win streak so that makes nyy no play?
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                                            • joeytunes
                                              SBR Sharp
                                              • 12-29-10
                                              • 449

                                              #1177
                                              and mets
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                                              • Tommygunn
                                                SBR Wise Guy
                                                • 02-26-09
                                                • 669

                                                #1178
                                                Can someone else do P/T for today?
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                                                • barts185
                                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                                  • 12-13-09
                                                  • 815

                                                  #1179
                                                  When did P/T change from lower being better to higher being better for the P-Power and T-Power ratings? I -KNOW- that earlier in the year, the wording was that the lower the number, the better the rating. I now see that at some point it was changed to say that the higher the number, the better the rating.

                                                  Makes a little bit of a difference.
                                                  Last edited by barts185; 06-28-11, 04:21 PM.
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                                                  • BrewMaster
                                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                                    • 12-03-10
                                                    • 555

                                                    #1180
                                                    Originally posted by joeytunes
                                                    brew...im i wrong mil is on a 3 game win streak so that makes nyy no play?
                                                    Recently, we've been nullifying the filter if it is countered by the team being on a Winning or Losing streak. I.e. MLW W3, however, NYY W2, therefore NYY = play.

                                                    If I'm wrong on this, please correct me guys. Thanks.
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                                                    • barts185
                                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                                      • 12-13-09
                                                      • 815

                                                      #1181
                                                      Originally posted by BrewMaster
                                                      Recently, we've been nullifying the filter if it is countered by the team being on a Winning or Losing streak. I.e. MLW W3, however, NYY W2, therefore NYY = play.

                                                      If I'm wrong on this, please correct me guys. Thanks.
                                                      I think the only one doing this is Formulawiz. A while ago, I asked if this was going to be used as the new filter, didn't get any replies, and I think (not positive) that others have still been eliminating the plays.
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                                                      • gryfyn1
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 03-30-10
                                                        • 3285

                                                        #1182
                                                        okay I looked at the PPTP plays and it looks like this; ill be wordy as Im not sure i'm correct.

                                                        Teams which Quailfy under the p-power (20 pt overlay) and t-power (100 pt overlay)

                                                        Phi @ -135)
                                                        TB @ -150
                                                        CHW @ +124
                                                        Oak @ -175(filter @ -175)
                                                        Milw @ +118(filter as NYY w)
                                                        KC @ +111(Filtered as SD W2)

                                                        Im not sure where to factor in the 'due factor' but

                                                        Teams that qualify for both due factors

                                                        KC @ +111
                                                        Oak @ -175

                                                        Not sure if this has any meaning but, the following teams qualify in Tpower and T due factor

                                                        Stl, Tx, LAD, WSH, CHW, Oak, KC
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                                                        • Tommygunn
                                                          SBR Wise Guy
                                                          • 02-26-09
                                                          • 669

                                                          #1183
                                                          Originally posted by gryfyn1
                                                          okay I looked at the PPTP plays and it looks like this; ill be wordy as Im not sure i'm correct.

                                                          Teams which Quailfy under the p-power (20 pt overlay) and t-power (100 pt overlay)

                                                          Phi @ -135)
                                                          TB @ -150
                                                          CHW @ +124
                                                          Oak @ -175(filter @ -175)
                                                          Milw @ +118(filter as NYY w)
                                                          KC @ +111(Filtered as SD W2)

                                                          Im not sure where to factor in the 'due factor' but

                                                          Teams that qualify for both due factors

                                                          KC @ +111
                                                          Oak @ -175

                                                          Not sure if this has any meaning but, the following teams qualify in Tpower and T due factor

                                                          Stl, Tx, LAD, WSH, CHW, Oak, KC
                                                          Wash qualifies for both too
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                                                          • gryfyn1
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 03-30-10
                                                            • 3285

                                                            #1184
                                                            Originally posted by Tommygunn
                                                            Wash qualifies for both too
                                                            your correct, i miscalculated that.
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                                                            • agos
                                                              SBR Hustler
                                                              • 01-30-11
                                                              • 54

                                                              #1185
                                                              Good luck everyone on your bets!
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                                                              • ShivaBowl
                                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                • 03-09-10
                                                                • 5133

                                                                #1186
                                                                Thanks G1 and TG, I will get back to you.
                                                                BOL
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                                                                • Formulawiz
                                                                  Restricted User
                                                                  • 01-12-09
                                                                  • 1589

                                                                  #1187
                                                                  ML plays went 3-2, +0.55 units

                                                                  YTD 71-40, +21.65

                                                                  Plays later today
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                                                                  • ShivaBowl
                                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                    • 03-09-10
                                                                    • 5133

                                                                    #1188
                                                                    TPR system went 0-2 yesterday.
                                                                    Start Date 05/01
                                                                    57-68 –14.73u

                                                                    H/A system went 1-1 yesterday.
                                                                    Start Date 05/29
                                                                    36-24 +7.69u

                                                                    P/T Power Plays went 1-1 yesterday.
                                                                    Start Date 06/12
                                                                    14-12 +1.98


                                                                    TPR System Plays
                                                                    Filter No Play if >-150
                                                                    BOS 1.8 N/P PHI W/2
                                                                    TOR 1.1 N/P L/2
                                                                    KC 1.2 N/P L/2

                                                                    H/A System Plays
                                                                    Filter No Play if >-150
                                                                    TEX

                                                                    P/T Plays
                                                                    Filter No Play if >-150
                                                                    LAA
                                                                    NYM
                                                                    SFG
                                                                    MLW, np NYY W/3


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                                                                    • ShivaBowl
                                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                      • 03-09-10
                                                                      • 5133

                                                                      #1189
                                                                      Filters; I have been using with P/T

                                                                      IP: Less then a differential of 20IP to be considered play.
                                                                      P-Power 20pts Higher
                                                                      T-Power 100pts Higher
                                                                      Pitch-DF Lower
                                                                      Team- DF Lower
                                                                      PR-Runs?
                                                                      No Play if > -150

                                                                      Take a look at LAA today,
                                                                      IP Diff <-20
                                                                      P-Power >+20
                                                                      T-Power >+100
                                                                      Pitch-DF And Team DF Even but PR Runs
                                                                      favor LAA at 0, so I made LAA a play today.

                                                                      SFG, is a perfect P/T Play today, all the # are in line.

                                                                      NYM, if the Pitch-DF were higher, I would drop the NYM today,
                                                                      due to the fact that the PR-Runs, doesn’t favor the NYM.

                                                                      BOL
                                                                      Last edited by ShivaBowl; 06-29-11, 07:48 AM.
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                                                                      • HoulihansTX
                                                                        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                                        • 02-12-09
                                                                        • 30566

                                                                        #1190
                                                                        Originally posted by HoulihansTX
                                                                        Official start (May 15 - Current)
                                                                        Overall

                                                                        (129-107)54% +19.15 Units
                                                                        ___________________
                                                                        Added Filter: No Play -150 or higher.

                                                                        June 28

                                                                        Bullpen Projection System

                                                                        Cleve 6.73 L (+150)
                                                                        Balty 5.80 L (-135)
                                                                        Wash 4.72 L (+115)
                                                                        Atl 3.96 W (+100)
                                                                        CWS 3.82L (+120)
                                                                        San Fran 3.41
                                                                        (Only GM1) W (-130)
                                                                        Cincy 3.25 L (+140)
                                                                        Toronto 2.76 L (-135)
                                                                        Philly 1.82 **
                                                                        W (-135)
                                                                        March 26 to May 14
                                                                        Overall
                                                                        (68-52) +22.56 Units

                                                                        Official start (May 15 - Current)

                                                                        Overall

                                                                        (132-114)54% +14.45 Units
                                                                        ___________________
                                                                        Added Filter: No Play -150 or higher.

                                                                        June 29

                                                                        Bullpen Projection System

                                                                        Cleve 5.62
                                                                        Atl 4.66
                                                                        Cincy 4.60
                                                                        Yanks 4,18
                                                                        Balty 3.76
                                                                        Dodgers 3.39
                                                                        SF 3.21
                                                                        Philly 1.85
                                                                        TX 1.63
                                                                        Oak 1.47

                                                                        No Play
                                                                        Wash np L2
                                                                        4.72
                                                                        CWS np L2 3.82
                                                                        Toronto np L2 3.74
                                                                        KC np L2 3.35


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