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  • BrewMaster
    SBR Wise Guy
    • 12-03-10
    • 555

    #1051
    20Jun11 Result: 0-1
    Record Official Start 15May11: 65-65 (-0.99 units)

    Scientific Approach 21Jun11:


    COL, -179
    OAK, -106 (np <+119)
    ANA, -154 (np <-129)
    CHC, -102, (np <+123)
    ARZ, -121 (np <+104)
    TB, -193


    Filtered (TOR, DET)
    System NO PLAY if >-150. Good Luck
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    • Tommygunn
      SBR Wise Guy
      • 02-26-09
      • 669

      #1052
      Originally posted by ShivaBowl
      The TPR System, has STL as a play today?
      I would not put a penny on this system, I don’t think it’s being updated this year for injuries?
      TPR, how hot or cold a team is over the past 7 games Vs. the entire season.
      STL L10 3-7
      MIN?
      Fade FAL?
      Fade SDP?
      TAM?
      PHI?
      WAS?
      So your not going to play this system anymore? You don't think it will turn around?
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      • bigassos
        SBR Hustler
        • 03-14-11
        • 69

        #1053
        Originally posted by chinoloco
        Complimentary Selection for 6/21/2011
        Take Chi Cubs W/Garza over Chi W Sox W/Buehrle NO PLAY if CWS < -140
        The play is on CUBS or on CWS?
        Last edited by SBR Jonelyn; 11-26-14, 04:06 PM.
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        • Tommygunn
          SBR Wise Guy
          • 02-26-09
          • 669

          #1054
          Originally posted by bigassos
          The play is on CUBS or on CWS?
          It says:

          Take Chi Cubs w/ Graza < -140
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          • Tommygunn
            SBR Wise Guy
            • 02-26-09
            • 669

            #1055
            Originally posted by BrewMaster
            20Jun11 Result: 0-1
            Record Official Start 15May11: 65-65 (-0.99 units)

            Scientific Approach 21Jun11:


            COL, -179
            OAK, -106 (np <+119)
            ANA, -154 (np <-129)
            CHC, -102, (np <+123)
            ARZ, -121 (np <+104)
            TB, -193


            Filtered (TOR, DET)
            System NO PLAY if >-150. Good Luck
            So if Oak is +120 or more it's a np? or ANA -130 or more it's a np?
            Last edited by Tommygunn; 06-21-11, 03:27 PM.
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            • Formulawiz
              Restricted User
              • 01-12-09
              • 1589

              #1056
              Originally posted by Tommygunn
              It says:

              Take Chi Cubs w/ Graza < -140
              No it does'nt. Read the entire sentence.
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              • Tommygunn
                SBR Wise Guy
                • 02-26-09
                • 669

                #1057
                Originally posted by Formulawiz
                No it does'nt. Read the entire sentence.
                You think it's a typo wiz or are the cubs only the play if cws are < -140 ???

                That would be a first time I've seen sportrends put it like that.
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                • Formulawiz
                  Restricted User
                  • 01-12-09
                  • 1589

                  #1058
                  Originally posted by Tommygunn
                  You think it's a typo wiz or are the cubs only the play if cws are < -140 ???

                  That would be a first time I've seen sportrends put it like that.
                  This is what it says
                  Take Chi Cubs W/Garza over Chi W Sox W/Buehrle NO PLAY if CWS < -140

                  It says NO play on CUBS if CWS ML drops below - 140
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                  • Tommygunn
                    SBR Wise Guy
                    • 02-26-09
                    • 669

                    #1059
                    Originally posted by Formulawiz
                    This is what it says
                    Take Chi Cubs W/Garza over Chi W Sox W/Buehrle NO PLAY if CWS < -140

                    It says NO play on CUBS if CWS ML drops below - 140
                    Ok I got it hanks wiz
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                    • Formulawiz
                      Restricted User
                      • 01-12-09
                      • 1589

                      #1060
                      ML plays went 1-1, -0.25 units
                      YTD 60-34, +17.85 units

                      By the way CUBS were not a play yesterday since CWS dropped below -140

                      Plays later today
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                      • rask7rask7
                        SBR High Roller
                        • 10-01-10
                        • 159

                        #1061
                        Thanx for explanations! GL
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                        • ShivaBowl
                          SBR Hall of Famer
                          • 03-09-10
                          • 5133

                          #1062
                          Originally posted by Tommygunn
                          So your not going to play this system anymore? You don't think it will turn around?
                          I will not be wagering on TPR, until it starts making some since to me.
                          I don’t think it’s being updated for injuries and hot and cold teams. It may turn around, but as of right now the system doesn’t look right to me? Without filters TPR went 0-4 last night.
                          BOL
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                          • Formulawiz
                            Restricted User
                            • 01-12-09
                            • 1589

                            #1063
                            Todays possible ML plays. Fav must be < -140

                            PHI?, ATL?
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                            • ShivaBowl
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 03-09-10
                              • 5133

                              #1064
                              Originally posted by BrewMaster
                              20Jun11 Result: 0-1 Record Official Start 15May11: 65-65 (-0.99 units) Scientific Approach 21Jun11: COL, -179 OAK, -106 (np <+119) ANA, -154 (np <-129) CHC, -102, (np <+123) ARZ, -121 (np <+104) TB, -193 Filtered (TOR, DET) System NO PLAY if >-150. Good Luck
                              .
                              Good post BM; I have all the info I need with SA and it saves me a ton of time!
                              Thank you, for all the extra work your putting in with the SA System....Nice Night$$
                              BOL
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                              • ShivaBowl
                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                • 03-09-10
                                • 5133

                                #1065
                                TPR system went 0-2 yesterday.
                                Start Date 05/01
                                53-63 –13.32u

                                H/A system went 2-0 yesterday.
                                Start Date 05/29
                                27-21 +2.55

                                P/T Power Plays went 0-2 yesterday.
                                Start Date 06/12
                                9-8 +1.00u

                                Working
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                                • HoulihansTX
                                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                  • 02-12-09
                                  • 30566

                                  #1066
                                  Originally posted by HoulihansTX
                                  Official start (May 15 - Current)
                                  Overall

                                  (108-94) +9.85Units


                                  ___________________
                                  Added Filter: No Play -150 or higher.

                                  June 21
                                  Bullpen Projection System

                                  Atl 8.67 W (-130)
                                  Tampa 3.84 L (+125)
                                  Cleve 3.42 L (+120)
                                  Cubs 3.32L (+110)
                                  Oak 2.04 W (+120)
                                  Minny 1.70 W (+135)
                                  Yanks 1.64
                                  PPD
                                  March 26 to May 14
                                  Overall
                                  (68-52) +22.56 Units

                                  Official start (May 15 - Current)
                                  Overall

                                  (111-97) +10.4 Units
                                  ___________________
                                  Added Filter: No Play -150 or higher.

                                  June 22
                                  Bullpen Projection System

                                  Atl 7.68
                                  Philly 6.25 (*Watch the line)
                                  Yanks 5.86 (*Only GM1)
                                  Tampa 4.94
                                  Cubs 2.59
                                  Wash 1.88

                                  No Plays
                                  Cleveland np L2 5.23
                                  Detroit np L2 4.36
                                  Boston np >-150 2.09


                                  *Bart/Shiva, and I discussed different parameters for the BPR that were not specified by Sportrends. It also covers doubleheaders.
                                  See Post 83
                                  See Post 89
                                  See Post 91


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                                  • ShivaBowl
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 03-09-10
                                    • 5133

                                    #1067
                                    HoulihansTX: if you have the time today, could you post the line parameters IE:constraints
                                    for the M/L System? I will be out all day today and it would be a big help!
                                    I need all the plays, I don’t use the >-140 filter.
                                    CLE yesterday

                                    Thank you!
                                    Bol
                                    Last edited by ShivaBowl; 06-22-11, 09:32 AM.
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                                    • ShivaBowl
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 03-09-10
                                      • 5133

                                      #1068
                                      06/22/2011

                                      TPR System Plays
                                      BOS 2.7 R/L -1.5 –110
                                      NYY 1.2 W/Garcia
                                      STL 1.0
                                      DET 1.1 No Play L/2

                                      H/A System Plays
                                      No Plays
                                      SFO, 76.1—551.9 SFO L/5
                                      HOU, 71.5—291.6 HOU L/3

                                      P/T Plays
                                      CLE, Strong # with P/T and BPR No Play CLE L/2
                                      SEA,
                                      OAK,
                                      CWS, No Play if CWS -150 and over >-
                                      ARZ, No play Per Staf’s Filter, PR-Runs N/G
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                                      • HoulihansTX
                                        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                        • 02-12-09
                                        • 30566

                                        #1069
                                        Originally posted by Formulawiz
                                        Todays possible ML plays. Fav must be < -140 PHI?, ATL?
                                        Atl np <-140
                                        Cincy GM 2 np <-115 (Yankees pitcher <20IP)
                                        Philly np<-130
                                        CWS np <-165
                                        Boston np <-165
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                                        • BrewMaster
                                          SBR Wise Guy
                                          • 12-03-10
                                          • 555

                                          #1070
                                          21Jun11 Result: 3-1
                                          Record Official Start 15May11: 68-66 (+1.32 units)

                                          Scientific Approach 22Jun11:


                                          BAL, -131 (np < -116)
                                          SD, -104
                                          MLW, -123 (np < 102)
                                          WAS, -130 (np<-105)
                                          OAK, -139
                                          FLA, -169
                                          ARZ, -192
                                          STL, -114

                                          Filtered (DET, CIN, SF)
                                          System NO PLAY if >-150. Good Luck
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                                          • Tommygunn
                                            SBR Wise Guy
                                            • 02-26-09
                                            • 669

                                            #1071
                                            Complimentary Selection for 6/22/2011
                                            Take Atlanta W/Beachy over Toronto W/Reyes NO PLAY if > -140
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                                            • barts185
                                              SBR Wise Guy
                                              • 12-13-09
                                              • 815

                                              #1072
                                              Originally posted by HoulihansTX
                                              Atl np <-140
                                              Cincy GM 2 np <-115 (Yankees pitcher <20IP)
                                              Philly np<-130
                                              CWS np <-165
                                              Boston np <-165
                                              Checking to see if I'm doing something wrong, which I probably am.

                                              For the ML

                                              I thought PHI would be -120 or worse since the proj ML is STL -105 (so PHI +105 and 25 away from that would be -120).

                                              I also get
                                              SEA -105 or worse. (+120 -25)
                                              COL +110 or worse. (+135 -25)


                                              Open question (not just for HoulihansTX)

                                              I guess part of the question is, when the home team is, for example, -120, and you want to compare values for the road team, are you starting at +120, or some other number?
                                              Last edited by barts185; 06-22-11, 11:20 AM. Reason: added the question
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                                              • HoulihansTX
                                                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                • 02-12-09
                                                • 30566

                                                #1073
                                                Let's just ask Formula tomorro morning.
                                                B/c obviously we have differing opinions on how to interpret, what is not specified. Once we come up with a solution that can be universally accepted, then problem is solved.

                                                Bart, I think how I interpret the ML system changes with the leaves. Lol. Its hard for you to be wrong, when nothing is specfied. I dnt know if Sportrends uses 10cent/or 20cent lines. When you look @ their "current ML" column it seems as though they use 20cent lines. But hey, what do I know
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                                                • gryfyn1
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 03-30-10
                                                  • 3285

                                                  #1074
                                                  you cant 'flop' the lines like that, you have to compare the home teams line and work backwards.

                                                  Just because the home team is listed at -105 doesn't mean the vising team is +105.

                                                  like in the stl/phi game

                                                  -compare home team line (-105 to +135), 40 cent difference toward the visiting team
                                                  - you have 25 cent overlay so so you can have a move of 15 cents (listed overlay minus the minimum playable overlay)
                                                  - listed line is -155 which can move up 15 cents (-140)
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                                                  • barts185
                                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                                    • 12-13-09
                                                    • 815

                                                    #1075
                                                    Originally posted by gryfyn1
                                                    you cant 'flop' the lines like that, you have to compare the home teams line and work backwards.

                                                    Just because the home team is listed at -105 doesn't mean the vising team is +105.

                                                    like in the stl/phi game

                                                    -compare home team line (-105 to +135), 40 cent difference toward the visiting team
                                                    - you have 25 cent overlay so so you can have a move of 15 cents (listed overlay minus the minimum playable overlay)
                                                    - listed line is -155 which can move up 15 cents (-140)

                                                    This is the question that I've been trying to get an answer for since last year. Sometimes it seems like what I'm doing with the line is correct. Sometimes it seems like it isn't.

                                                    If we can get a definite answer to this question, it would go a LONG way to removing a lot of questions about how it works (not all the questions, but a lot of them).
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                                                    • HoulihansTX
                                                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                      • 02-12-09
                                                      • 30566

                                                      #1076
                                                      I'm all for only using the home team line as an indicator. I think that's how I used the system a year ago, but some how my line of thinkin became convoluted.

                                                      They way yesterdays Free play was listed almost cements that the home team line is the indicator.
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                                                      • Small Timer
                                                        SBR Sharp
                                                        • 01-12-11
                                                        • 389

                                                        #1077
                                                        Originally posted by gryfyn1
                                                        you cant 'flop' the lines like that, you have to compare the home teams line and work backwards.

                                                        Just because the home team is listed at -105 doesn't mean the vising team is +105.

                                                        like in the stl/phi game

                                                        -compare home team line (-105 to +135), 40 cent difference toward the visiting team
                                                        - you have 25 cent overlay so so you can have a move of 15 cents (listed overlay minus the minimum playable overlay)
                                                        - listed line is -155 which can move up 15 cents (-140)
                                                        For some reason this makes a lot more sense then the actual MoneyLine system page on the website, thank you for your explanation, it makes the picking of ML teams seem much less arbitrary.
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                                                        • Formulawiz
                                                          Restricted User
                                                          • 01-12-09
                                                          • 1589

                                                          #1078
                                                          The way I look at the ML system to make a play is as follows.

                                                          I look at the home team Proj ML and then compare it to the home team Current Line. There has to be at least a 25 cent difference. Here is where the problem may occur for some of you.
                                                          For ex: Lets assume the home team Proj ML is +110 and the HT ML is -110 and the AT ML is -115. As you can see there would not be a play on the HT since there is only a 20 cent diff. But if you compare it the the AT ML some of you would get confused by adding the +110 and -115 the AT is laying thinking there is a 25 cent diff when there is not.
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                                                          • Formulawiz
                                                            Restricted User
                                                            • 01-12-09
                                                            • 1589

                                                            #1079
                                                            No ML plays yesterday.

                                                            Plays later today
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                                                            • rask7rask7
                                                              SBR High Roller
                                                              • 10-01-10
                                                              • 159

                                                              #1080
                                                              Good luck for today plays.
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                                                              • Formulawiz
                                                                Restricted User
                                                                • 01-12-09
                                                                • 1589

                                                                #1081
                                                                Todays ML plays. Fav must be < -140

                                                                NYM?
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                                                                • ShivaBowl
                                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                  • 03-09-10
                                                                  • 5133

                                                                  #1082
                                                                  TPR system went 1-2 yesterday.
                                                                  Start Date 05/01
                                                                  54-65 –14.32u

                                                                  H/A system went 0-0 yesterday.
                                                                  Start Date 05/29
                                                                  27-21 +2.55u

                                                                  P/T Power Plays went 0-2 yesterday.
                                                                  Start Date 06/12
                                                                  9-10 –1.00u


                                                                  TPR System Plays
                                                                  NYM, No Play if >-150

                                                                  H/A System Plays
                                                                  WAS, 129.9—1395.5

                                                                  P/T Plays
                                                                  SEA, No Play SEA L/2
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                                                                  • HoulihansTX
                                                                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                                    • 02-12-09
                                                                    • 30566

                                                                    #1083
                                                                    Originally posted by HoulihansTX
                                                                    Official start (May 15 - Current)
                                                                    Overall

                                                                    (111-97) +10.4 Units


                                                                    ___________________
                                                                    Added Filter: No Play -150 or higher.

                                                                    June 22
                                                                    Bullpen Projection System

                                                                    Atl 7.68 (No Play >-150)
                                                                    Philly 6.25 (No Play >-150)
                                                                    Yanks 5.86 (*Only GM1) W (+110)
                                                                    Tampa 4.94 W (-115)
                                                                    Cubs 2.59 L (+165)
                                                                    Wash 1.88
                                                                    W (-115)
                                                                    March 26 to May 14
                                                                    Overall
                                                                    (68-52) +22.56 Units

                                                                    Official start (May 15 - Current)
                                                                    Overall

                                                                    (114-98)
                                                                    54% +12.5 Units
                                                                    ___________________
                                                                    Added Filter: No Play -150 or higher.

                                                                    June 23
                                                                    Bullpen Projection System

                                                                    Philly 5.16
                                                                    Mets 1.39
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                                                                    • ShivaBowl
                                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                      • 03-09-10
                                                                      • 5133

                                                                      #1084
                                                                      Originally posted by HoulihansTX;06/22/11
                                                                      [I
                                                                      Atl np <-140
                                                                      Cincy GM 2
                                                                      Philly np<-130
                                                                      CWS np <-165
                                                                      Boston np <-165[/I]
                                                                      Thanks TX: $$$
                                                                      Last edited by ShivaBowl; 06-23-11, 08:30 AM.
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                                                                      • BrewMaster
                                                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                                                        • 12-03-10
                                                                        • 555

                                                                        #1085
                                                                        Guys, I can't do SA today I'm in corporate meetings all day. Sorry!
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