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  • slapshot
    SBR MVP
    • 10-27-07
    • 1194

    #1
    System Integrity 2011
    there are different variations of this system out there.

    i will play this chase system with these criteria

    * pick the biggest favorite of the day, play them -1
    * minimum of 3 games per day
    * if race for the biggest favorite is a tie….pick game with highest total
    * pinnacle opening lines are used to select the game

    i have researched the last five seasons....to avoid losing streaks is by far the most important thing in playing any system..including this one.

    longest losing streaks based on the criteria above:
    2006 - 5 games
    2007 - 5 games
    2008 - 3 games
    2009 - 5 games
    2010 - 4 games

    my research hasn't indicated that the system is less successful at the start of the season then other periods of the season so the plays starts today.

    if anyone is playing the system differently...feel free to post your strategy.
  • slapshot
    SBR MVP
    • 10-27-07
    • 1194

    #2
    first play of the season
    stl cardinals -1 , -122
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    • soldier1047
      SBR Sharp
      • 10-26-10
      • 332

      #3
      Good luck!!
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      • soldier1047
        SBR Sharp
        • 10-26-10
        • 332

        #4
        Do you have records of those years? I seen the -1.5 records but not the -1 runlines.
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        • slapshot
          SBR MVP
          • 10-27-07
          • 1194

          #5
          this is the record
          year - wins - losses - push - rain - units

          2006 - 91 - 49 - 34 - 2 +91
          2007 - 88 - 65 - 23 - 0 +88
          2008 - 90 - 47 - 36 - 1 +90
          2009 - 94 - 61 - 19 - 1 +94
          2010 - 97 - 47 - 24 - 2 +97
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          • SkivChef
            SBR Wise Guy
            • 10-19-09
            • 730

            #6
            I believe 5 dimes has a minus 1 line
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            • Van G
              SBR Sharp
              • 03-30-10
              • 261

              #7
              Originally posted by soldier1047
              Do you have records of those years? I seen the -1.5 records but not the -1 runlines.

              you just average the -1.5 RL with the normal line in order to equate a -1 RL

              for example: lay $50 on the -1.5 RL then lay another $100 on the normal line to average it out to a -1 RL

              simple math & you can download a Excel calculator on-line to help you calculate it
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              • do5000
                SBR Wise Guy
                • 06-06-08
                • 853

                #8
                nice to see this thread get updated. good luck guys
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                • SkivChef
                  SBR Wise Guy
                  • 10-19-09
                  • 730

                  #9
                  Originally posted by slapshot
                  there are different variations of this system out there.

                  i will play this chase system with these criteria

                  * pick the biggest favorite of the day, play them -1
                  * minimum of 3 games per day
                  * if race for the biggest favorite is a tie….pick game with highest total
                  * pinnacle opening lines are used to select the game

                  i have researched the last five seasons....to avoid losing streaks is by far the most important thing in playing any system..including this one.

                  longest losing streaks based on the criteria above:
                  2006 - 5 games
                  2007 - 5 games
                  2008 - 3 games
                  2009 - 5 games
                  2010 - 4 games

                  my research hasn't indicated that the system is less successful at the start of the season then other periods of the season so the plays starts today.

                  if anyone is playing the system differently...feel free to post your strategy.

                  U chasin 6 times?
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                  • slapshot
                    SBR MVP
                    • 10-27-07
                    • 1194

                    #10
                    this is how i will play:
                    after a 3 game losing streak i will add the losses up.
                    i will divide this total by four.

                    the next game is played to recoup 1/4 of the total lost during the 3 game losing streak.
                    this is repeated until four games are won.

                    only once has the system lost another three games in a row before winning four games when chasing 1/4 of the initial loss....based on the five year research.

                    on average, the system need 6 games to collect four wins after a 3 game losing streak.

                    the is unit size adjusted and the bankroll is big enough to cover a scenario where i lose first three at "first" level and three at "second" level.

                    my unit size is to increase the bankroll with 1%.

                    like i said in the other "system integrity" thread.....you need a rather big bankroll and unit size ($wise not %wise) to make this strategy worthwhile......with a 100 buck bankroll i would opt for some other strategy.
                    Last edited by slapshot; 03-31-11, 05:44 PM.
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                    • Jasonal_98
                      SBR MVP
                      • 06-16-09
                      • 1443

                      #11
                      I'm looking forward to tailing this thread this year. Thanks.
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                      • slapshot
                        SBR MVP
                        • 10-27-07
                        • 1194

                        #12
                        0-1 -1.35
                        friday
                        philly -1, -183
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                        • floridagolfer
                          SBR MVP
                          • 12-19-08
                          • 2757

                          #13
                          I'll certainly play this again this year. I'm with a new outfit this year and I'll have to see if it offers a -1 line. To have those one-run wins that become pushes instead of losses would be nice. Good luck to everyone.
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                          • do5000
                            SBR Wise Guy
                            • 06-06-08
                            • 853

                            #14
                            tough game yesterday.
                            phi today.
                            anybody else putting PHI and COL in a parlay?
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                            • floridagolfer
                              SBR MVP
                              • 12-19-08
                              • 2757

                              #15
                              It's the Phillies (Cliff Lee, -255, -115) again on Saturday.
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                              • maxgohan
                                SBR High Roller
                                • 02-19-10
                                • 120

                                #16
                                in on this thread

                                what would the calculation be to avg the ML and RL to -1??

                                i.e. Phillies are ML -240 and RL -104...

                                so i guess i just put 100 on the ML and 100 on the RL??
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                                • venture
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 11-25-09
                                  • 1158

                                  #17
                                  Does anyone have the -1 calculator, i looked online and could not find it. thanks
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                                  • shinnman
                                    SBR Sharp
                                    • 02-25-11
                                    • 282

                                    #18
                                    i love this thread and want to tail, who has -1 lines , went to 5dimes , they have -1.5 as well as .5 but not -1 or was i just missing it
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                                    • allenc85
                                      SBR Sharp
                                      • 03-26-10
                                      • 403

                                      #19
                                      -1 RL Calculator is attached
                                      Attached Files
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                                      • maxgohan
                                        SBR High Roller
                                        • 02-19-10
                                        • 120

                                        #20
                                        sick buzz!
                                        uploaded it for everyone to use!
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                                        • PALLETIZE
                                          SBR Rookie
                                          • 03-07-10
                                          • 30

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by shinnman
                                          i love this thread and want to tail, who has -1 lines , went to 5dimes , they have -1.5 as well as .5 but not -1 or was i just missing it
                                          If you are talking about Sundays games, they don't usually offer the -1 run line until a little closer to game time.
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                                          • PALLETIZE
                                            SBR Rookie
                                            • 03-07-10
                                            • 30

                                            #22
                                            Labby Question

                                            Has anyone tried runing a Labby line for each of the 6 chase bets on this system a,b,c etc. etc.? I followed this system last year useing the -1.5 run line. Checking back I found that the A bet had some rather long losing streaks but the B and C bets done pretty well. I was just wondering if someone might have the stats on how the results would have been when useing the -1 run line?
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                                            • rkelly110
                                              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                              • 10-05-09
                                              • 39691

                                              #23
                                              I use a different -1 RL calculation to come out ahead instead of a push.

                                              Bet to win $6 on ML, bet $5 on -RL. -RL loses, I'm ahead on ML. Small yes, but + money.

                                              I have a small bank, larger banks would make larger profits.

                                              I did my back testing from last year on this system -1.5 and didn't like the long losing
                                              streaks. A lot of 5 & 6 day losses. It also had some long, but few winning streaks also.

                                              I did both, Largest favorite ML and largest dog +RL, they both evened out at 50% for the season.

                                              GL guys.
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                                              • do5000
                                                SBR Wise Guy
                                                • 06-06-08
                                                • 853

                                                #24
                                                PHI again today?
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                                                • Duby
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 01-26-09
                                                  • 3608

                                                  #25
                                                  Anyone who has access to Pinnacle can get the -1 lines and great odds!

                                                  best of luck using this strategy
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                                                  • slapshot
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 10-27-07
                                                    • 1194

                                                    #26
                                                    1-1-1 +1 unit
                                                    sunday
                                                    philly again -161, -1
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                                                    • TheJames
                                                      SBR High Roller
                                                      • 02-05-11
                                                      • 234

                                                      #27
                                                      If this system produces around +90 units a season and your betting $100 a unit does that mean your walking away with $9000 a season? Seems too easy, am I missing something?
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                                                      • slapshot
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 10-27-07
                                                        • 1194

                                                        #28
                                                        not missing anything really.....if you have 100 bucks unit size, i would recommend a $10 000 bankroll dedicated for the system
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                                                        • TheJames
                                                          SBR High Roller
                                                          • 02-05-11
                                                          • 234

                                                          #29
                                                          Also, say the line is -125... are you risking $125 to win $100 or the other way around where you bet $100 to win $75
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                                                          • slapshot
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 10-27-07
                                                            • 1194

                                                            #30
                                                            you always bet to "win"...not to "risk"....i bet to increase the bankroll with 1%
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                                                            • slapshot
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 10-27-07
                                                              • 1194

                                                              #31
                                                              2-1-1 +2
                                                              monday
                                                              stl cardinals -1, -106
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                                                              • TheJames
                                                                SBR High Roller
                                                                • 02-05-11
                                                                • 234

                                                                #32
                                                                BOL, I like the pick
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                                                                • atari5200
                                                                  Restricted User
                                                                  • 09-15-10
                                                                  • 464

                                                                  #33
                                                                  i got stl ML at -139, yankees are the bigger favorite. Am i missing something too?
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                                                                  • himeshforex
                                                                    Restricted User
                                                                    • 05-29-09
                                                                    • 1414

                                                                    #34
                                                                    st. louis was the fav a few hours back , a sharp move on the line has now made the yanks the biggest fav on the card

                                                                    what does one normally do in these scenes,
                                                                    i guess take the yanks , a better chance of it hittin as well : )
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                                                                    • do5000
                                                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                                                      • 06-06-08
                                                                      • 853

                                                                      #35
                                                                      its always based on OPENING FAVORITE, using pinnacle lines.
                                                                      1st post should have all the info
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