Like your play today Wallco.
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Same here, played the D-backs all the way through on one of my labby lines since it was reasonable (even though JM stated otherwise, I honestly can't say why) to think that after two losses the RPI difference would drop below .015.
Thanks for the play, Wallco!
Let's collect on that D bet, go go Brew Crew
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hagball, I haven't received today's e-mail yet either, but I looked up his e-mail from Monday and in it he stated that "these 2 upcoming bets [Detroit and Arizona] are guaranteed to pass all the filters of the system, so a win (or should I say: Wins!) is basically definite!". If Arizona does lose tonight (hope not, really), there's proof on "paper" he's the douchebag king and knows squat about his own filters. Like we needed that, but still. Funny.Comment -
Yeah if it loses I'll send him back a copy of his own email. And yes he is the douchebag king.Same here, played the D-backs all the way through on one of my labby lines since it was reasonable (even though JM stated otherwise, I honestly can't say why) to think that after two losses the RPI difference would drop below .015.
Thanks for the play, Wallco!
Let's collect on that D bet, go go Brew Crew
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hagball, I haven't received today's e-mail yet either, but I looked up his e-mail from Monday and in it he stated that "these 2 upcoming bets [Detroit and Arizona] are guaranteed to pass all the filters of the system, so a win (or should I say: Wins!) is basically definite!". If Arizona does lose tonight (hope not, really), there's proof on "paper" he's the douchebag king and knows squat about his own filters. Like we needed that, but still. Funny.Comment -
hagBall52........what I never understood about JM saying a play does not count after he "officially" gave it his blessing in the beginning is how do you start a series and then just stop it without seeing it thru. Also how would he not mark that in his records as a loss. If the RPI is really a factor he should have never released this one as a play because of the potential shift in rankings. I'm greedy and ignore that stuff so of course I'm staring another C bet in the face for like the 3rd time in 2 weeks. If this one goes down today I'm 100% done with his plays. That will be 4 C loses and it's only mid-June! Let’s hope that does not happen. But you know what I just read a book called "Hope Is Not a Strategy". Maybe I should consider that before I get involved in some of these chases.Comment -
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It's perfectly explainable. He's not in it for you, he's in it for himself. He sends out the play as official to bank the win for his record, but if it losses then he'll bring in the filter. He doesn't care how much money you lost. But yeah it's very dumb. I think this will be only his 2nd C loss for V1 plays, I wouldn't count the V2 loss as the 4th because that's not really a system. I don't play V3. I only play V1, in my opinion all these other versions are just slight modifications he tries to sell off.Comment -
JM EMAIL:
My mailbox received a number of emails after the last Yankees
series asking if I can let members know ahead of time when a bet
goes against one of the system's filters. Therefore, I just want to
put out a word of caution for you now that Arizona's RPI has
diminished to more than .015 below San Francisco's.
When this betting series began, Arizona's RPI was only .014 below
San Francisco's. However, since the time when they lost the [A]
bet, their RPI has fallen more than .015 below their opponent's RPI.
The betting system manual says to pass on a bet whenever the team
you're betting on has an RPI more than .015 below their opponent's.
This is still a good bet to make, but I do want to caution you that
it does fall out of the betting system's criteria at this point,
similar to the Yankees-Red Sox series.
Whenever a betting series falls into all of the critieria of the
system, it is literally guaranteed to win! In fact, we have not
lost a single official betting series that falls into all the
criteria of the system in years (that's how absolutely indestructible
the betting system really is!)!. Unofficial bets that meet some
but not all of the system's criteria are still usually good
bets to make, but they always carry a greater level of risk.Comment -
Just got the same email. What a sh*t head. People are now 2 games into a series and what are you supposed to do ? Just throw your money down the toilet, or no maybe we should buy his "champselections" and really go in a hole. Let's see how today shakes out and then we'll figure out what to do with the record tomorrow. Hopefully we get the win and not have to worry about it. Anybody totally playing JM this year is in the red and will be for a while.Comment -
Good deal Hagball. In my opinion if he sent the A bet out as official then it should be treated as such for the whole series. Making it an unofficial loss just plays to what he wants, a cleaner record. I think we need to keep the record as blue collar as possible, in my opinion it will prove much more accurate. If not, then every series needs to be checked to see if it will fall out of range if it goes to C, and then it needs to be marked unofficial from the start, whether it wins on A or loses on C.Comment -
This is what I was trying to say with my post. To tell people to start a series and then warn them after it started is BS. The play should have never been released. I know it's more about the "marketing" of the system for JM than the actual results but it still sucks. Go D'Backs!Comment -
I think it's time to throw Morrison MLB down the drain and cut your losses short playing him. Plenty of better systems out there. System Integrity is up twice the amount of Morrison and has not lost yet. I dropped him after the Yankees lost.Comment -
That is why all those losers fall on JM marketing tricks and pay him for his losing system. Every season is undefeated and made a small fortune. And James Jones works with same modus operandi. He admitted his TEX-BAL loss last season but never told that he blew entire season on that game. According to my calculation he lost at least 65 units. And that is best case scenario.
I still stick to SSS system. Another a) win on MIL yesterday. Today 3 b) games.
They had VIP yesterday on NHL. Any info? Are those plays so hot as they say?Comment -
I have been playing all of JM's plays as RL on the Favs and ML on the Dogs and am not down any money. I will not have a loss all year either.
Using the labby the series loss carries to the next series and in the end will clear. This is the ONLY way to play JM and come out with your shirt. Plus using the RL on the Favs and ML on the Dogs (thanks Wallco) give a nice bit of extra change when a game does win while also clearing down the labby.
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I don't care if he abandons a series after the "A" or "B" bet when it falls out of the betting criteria. It would have prevented a "C" loss on the Yankees and a V3 "C" loss on the Royals and may very well prevent a "C" loss tonight. All it means is that these series are two-game chases instead of three.
What I have a big problem with is what JM actually does. He recommends it as a system play with a wishy-washy statement about how it falls outside the RPI filter. If it wins, it counts as a win. If it loses, he throws it out.
I'm keeping track of the system with all the filters this season to see what the most profitable betting strategy is. Right now, I'm suspecting it will be to make only "C" bets that fall within the RPI filter for the whole series. So far, that would have resulted in only one bet (Angels), but it would have been a win and everyone would be ahead right now.Comment -
If you stop after the B loss because of the filter you need to take in account that you lost 5 units (-150 odds on both a/b = -5.25)Comment -
JM just sent me a letter...here it is>
Tell all those suckers that send me money they are fked!
And just keep sending their money and be quiet.
What is their problem exposing the truth just keep playing when and where I tell you.
So I have to cover up several losses all the time, but the great news? Several keep following my lies when they know they are lies and complaining!
Guys its like leading the dumb lamb to slaughter!
Yours truely a guy with a fake name taking your money...JMComment -
We're all at fault here; particularly those of us who know about the 0.015 RPI filter, myself included. This is what Hagball posted before the A Bet:
The RPI difference (before the series started) was 0.011(6/14/2011) Arizona (.505)v San Francisco (.516) M/L (A) (6/15 (B) & 6/16 (C) if necessary)
Last year, we (here on sbr) discussed the problem of the reducing RPI difference over the A and B bets and there was a sort of concensus that a max RPI difference should be 0.010 to cater for the reduction. I, and others from that dicussion, should have spotted the 0.011 difference and flagged it up.
Sorry guys. JM is an asshole, but we have to look after ourselves and we failed.
Anyways, go DBacks. And go Brewers
Regards
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No shit, Sherlock.If you stop after the B loss because of the filter you need to take in account that you lost 5 units (-150 odds on both a/b = -5.25)Comment -
OOHH, good start for milwaukeeComment -
but good start for cubs also
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heh, nice start in mil/cubs game
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damn , the cubs seems to hit really good today :PComment -
No play on the game for me... won on Milwaulee as posted yesterday...but have to love how you rookies forget the game goes 9 innings not 9 pitches...might want to stop clogging up the thread...Comment -
One last thing...just so you know its a little longer than just today...the Cubs this year have no problem hitting the ball they are 3rd in all of baseball in batting average...always nice to know things when you gamble...take care guys...back later...(its their pitching that stinks they can hit with anybody in the league)...
GL guys hope you pull it out...there are still 7 innings left...tie your fingers together if you cannot be quiet...Comment -
damn G, u really have to say something about everything, cant u go to your own thread and post over there....Comment -
It is just that you used to do the same stupid stuff in my thread...clogging it up and usually always being wrong...thank god you and all your dumb comments during the games are gone...I am pulling for you guys so at least be happy for that...why not take a break and go back through the thread and see how many dumb things you have said here also? Take care hope you guys win...Comment -
same here. Plus i play the original v1 (.010) sys. I haven't touched ariz. at all since they were .011 lower than sf at the start of the A bet. So if one starts a series where the team is .006 lower than the opponent lets say, then you're a little more assured of a better matchup, & those playin the .015 filter should hopefully be more assured that your series won't be interrupted. Plus, ya can always wait till the B/C gms. to come up also.
TO ALL:
I, amongst many i'm sure, was one who also suggested to JM that he at least give us a head's up as to his intentions when those filtered situations arise. And even when he doesn't, ya all should hopefully have your own clues in the future when to quit the series or not. Not that's gonna stop those trigger happy folks from still persuing the series right through to the F bet of course.
So for now, you should have both the (top 2 in rpi standings) & the (no more than .015 lower) filters during a series straightened out.
The yanks series shouldn't have gone any further than the A bet (Bost. went from 3rd to 2nd in rpi standings when the B bet was to begin). Had ya been playin the original sys.(.010 filter) though, then it wouldn't have been playable at all because w/the .010 sys., you're not suppose to play against any tm. within the top 3 in rpi standings.
Too bad ya can't find an excuse for the V3 loss.
Don't forget, for those already into this series, that there is still a C bet tonight for those who feel lucky w/ a small wager to recover somewhat; or just pass & move on.
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Wavy game to say the last.. point in every round so far and CUBS is actually hot!!
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Com'on Greinke your a Cy Young winner.....act like it!Comment -
I love stats and in baseball there are 1,000 of them. Although Chi is 3rd in avg. they in the bottom half of the league (20th) in runs scored. They did not get to 27-40 by accident. They are not a good team and it's frustrating to watch a pitcher the caliber of Grenike get knocked around by these clowns.Comment -
haha,.. oohh 4 units, yeah thats really good my friend, u can afford another hotdog... congrats
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