John Morrison 2011 MLB

[dlunc3]

I was referring to Wallco as the 2nd system yes. While he doesn't post his system details he has posting everything else necessary. 5 years of data with A, B, C, D levels and losses, his posts include A B C D level win/loss and he has a unit and series count. Plus, he is the creator of the system so he is able to answer most of our questions. This combined with his success with his NBA system is why I play his system even though he hasn't layed it out. Even Hagball tracks JM win/loss count and on which levels, and keeps track of sweeps for the whole season. They are committed to their systems not just throwing one out there and posting plays.

A side note for the plays today, I know it isn't official yet, but I really hope I don't have to put money on the Cubs again.

Sounds good man wish I had more details for ya... As I said, i dont wanna clutter this thread more then it already is, but just wanted to give you guys the heads up on a hopefully solid lead that I had come across.. Ill just make one post per day on here if anyone wants to tail lightly like im doing.. The link to the thread I started for it is:

http://forum.sbrforum.com/baseball-handicapping/1123921-hedge-chase-totals-system.html

Have a great day boys... best of luck on all our plays

[thelimit0310]

I appreciate the heads up dlunc, and i'll definitely be checking the system out. If the majority of people want it here then who am I to tell them no? Just want the best for all of us. Best of luck to you

[dlunc3]

It definately is a pain in the a$$ to have to look back 10 pages just to find either the JM plays or even Wallcos plays I agree. I think this is a great thread to discuss systems as a whole and kind of have them all layed out.. but i definately think that each system needs its own dedicated thread as well so that discussions can be had regarding that system alone and for people to find those plays a lot easier.

[pagodo]

Trembling with fear at the Cubs play if it's going official, but hey, let them pay for those horrible losses against the Astros.

Loving the Rockies play, it's a shutout system series as well, so let's hope it cashes nicely, playing it 1.5x.

GL all!

[thelimit0310]

Trembling with fear at the Cubs play if it's going official, but hey, let them pay for those horrible losses against the Astros.

Loving the Rockies play, it's a shutout system series as well, so let's hope it cashes nicely, playing it 1.5x.

GL all!

Yeah the Cubs have been responsible for losses and letdowns the entire season, if it becomes official i might play them both to win .5 units each. Even if it cashes, playing it safe never hurt anyone!

[BigOrangeBrother]

New week......new series!!!

[1gamer]

Trembling with fear at the Cubs play if it's going official, but hey, let them pay for those horrible losses against the Astros. Loving the Rockies play, it's a shutout system series as well, so let's hope it cashes nicely, playing it 1.5x. GL all!

Is it possible to take a CUB "Beat Down" twice in one (1) month. I don't think so...

[G's pks]

A couple thoughts on the Cubs...they can hit...do any of you realize they are 3rd in all of baseball in batting average...where they fail is their pitching...this is a 4 game series and I would be shocked if either team won 4 games! The rivalry has been close last 20 at Wrigley head to head Cubs are 11-9...just a few thoughts...this looks like such a dominating series for the Brewers...looks to easy...I say bet either side for a few games and you win...

[xanderxxx93]

The OUI!!! System
(OUI is YES in French)
(Stands For "Over Under IceLabby System")

I have 7 complete days now playing Every Over and Every Under on Every Game using my new labby system. I thought I would post some results for you.

June 4 - Over Clear 5 Under Clear 10 Total Clear 15 Over $ In Play $30.00 Under $ In Play $30.00 Total $ In Play $60.00 Over Profit $10.00 Under Profit $20.00 Total Profit $30.00

June 5 - Over Clear 2 Under Clear 4 Total Clear 6 Over $ In Play $52.15 Under $ In Play $40.94 Total $ In Play $93.09 Over Profit $4.00 Under Profit $8.00 Total Profit $12.00

June 6 - Over Clear 4 Under Clear 1 Total Clear 5 Over $ In Play $33.96 Under $ In Play $53.26 Total $ In Play $87.22 Over Profit $8.00 Under Profit $2.00 Total Profit $10.00

June 7 - Over Clear 4 Under Clear 9 Total Clear 13 Over $ In Play $55.51 Under $ In Play $60.27 Total $ In Play $115.78 Over Profit $8.00 Under Profit $18.00 Total Profit $26.00

June 8 - Over Clear 5 Under Clear 6 Total Clear 11 Over $ In Play $78.45 Under $ In Play $73.69 Total $ In Play $152.14 Over Profit $10.00 Under Profit $12.00 Total Profit $22.00

June 9 - Over Clear 3 Under Clear 1 Total Clear 4 Over $ In Play $119.36 Under $ In Play $80.35 Total $ In Play $199.71 Over Profit $6.00 Under Profit $2.00 Total Profit $8.00

June 10 - Over Clear 8 Under Clear 6 Total Clear 14 Over $ In Play $153.40 Under $ In Play $52.99 Total $ In Play $206.39 Over Profit $16.00 Under Profit $12.00 Total Profit $28.00

June 11 - Over Clear 6 Under Clear 2 Total Clear 8 Over $ In Play $104.54 Under $ In Play $82.56 Total $ In Play $187.10 Over Profit $12.00 Under Profit $4.00 Total Profit $16.00

Totals - Over Clear 42 Under Clear 46 Total Clear 88 Over $ In Play $71.95 Under $ In Play $145.89 Total $ In Play $217.84 Over Profit $84.00 Under Profit $92.00 Total Profit $176.00

I have my labby set for $2.00 per line since I am still in the testing phase. After tonight my Total $ In Play will drop quite a bit since most of today's games were Unders.

IceBet

hi icebet what kind of labby did you use? traditional 3 strikes or 4?

[pagodo]

A couple thoughts on the Cubs...they can hit...do any of you realize they are 3rd in all of baseball in batting average...where they fail is their pitching...this is a 4 game series and I would be shocked if either team won 4 games! The rivalry has been close last 20 at Wrigley head to head Cubs are 11-9...just a few thoughts...this looks like such a dominating series for the Brewers...looks to easy...I say bet either side for a few games and you win...

Thanks for the info, G.

It's just that I was watching that Game 2 vs the Astros when we had the Cubs on the B bet ... and that top 9th when they lost six runs was simply insane. I've seen the highlights of Game 3 the day after as well and it was just ridiculous, they hit like three or four balls during the entire game. So, even when you're confident in the stats, the Cubs are the team to find a way to completely screw you over.

I also agree that it's highly unlikely they'll repeat an epic-fail streak like that again now. They look like a clear favorite with the books, I guess we might be going with two A bets on the Cubs. Rejoice

Better safe than sorry then , I'll go and play them 0.4 unit, thanks for the kind word, thelimit. If we lose and the B bet moves to the Brewers tomorrow, I'll go a full unit.

GL all!

[GGPLAYER]

There are 2 teams in baseball which burn me more than any other...Chi Cubs and the Boston Red Sox.

[IceBet]

hi icebet what kind of labby did you use? traditional 3 strikes or 4?

I am using the IceLabby 4 Strike Methods.

IceBet

[goblinburner]

nice picks today walco feel very confident on your last two

[manutd19]

Can someone pls tel me how much they make anualy or points. Also which sport and strategy/system you use to make profit and your starting bankrol. Just wanna know if truly one can make decent profit especialy with system play. I can see some people here saying there bankrol is empty after those consecutive d losses with JM c losses.

[goodone]

Allright, let's start it all up again this week, go go go I see CHC not official yet, somehow that doesn't worry me, thinking about skipping that one anyway

[peeiempee]

Can someone pls tel me how much they make anualy or points. Also which sport and strategy/system you use to make profit and your starting bankrol. Just wanna know if truly one can make decent profit especialy with system play. I can see some people here saying there bankrol is empty after those consecutive d losses with JM c losses.

This is sports betting. You win and you lose. All systems work great until they don't. With any system I only do 0.5% of my bankroll to win on one series. I am a high volume player though. Profits are great with any system or any time you bet until you run into a rough patch. So manage your bankroll and be conservative when following chases

[goodone]

The OUI!!! System
(OUI is YES in French)
(Stands For "Over Under IceLabby System")

I have 7 complete days now playing Every Over and Every Under on Every Game using my new labby system. I thought I would post some results for you.

June 4 - Over Clear 5 Under Clear 10 Total Clear 15 Over $ In Play $30.00 Under $ In Play $30.00 Total $ In Play $60.00 Over Profit $10.00 Under Profit $20.00 Total Profit $30.00

June 5 - Over Clear 2 Under Clear 4 Total Clear 6 Over $ In Play $52.15 Under $ In Play $40.94 Total $ In Play $93.09 Over Profit $4.00 Under Profit $8.00 Total Profit $12.00

June 6 - Over Clear 4 Under Clear 1 Total Clear 5 Over $ In Play $33.96 Under $ In Play $53.26 Total $ In Play $87.22 Over Profit $8.00 Under Profit $2.00 Total Profit $10.00

June 7 - Over Clear 4 Under Clear 9 Total Clear 13 Over $ In Play $55.51 Under $ In Play $60.27 Total $ In Play $115.78 Over Profit $8.00 Under Profit $18.00 Total Profit $26.00

June 8 - Over Clear 5 Under Clear 6 Total Clear 11 Over $ In Play $78.45 Under $ In Play $73.69 Total $ In Play $152.14 Over Profit $10.00 Under Profit $12.00 Total Profit $22.00

June 9 - Over Clear 3 Under Clear 1 Total Clear 4 Over $ In Play $119.36 Under $ In Play $80.35 Total $ In Play $199.71 Over Profit $6.00 Under Profit $2.00 Total Profit $8.00

June 10 - Over Clear 8 Under Clear 6 Total Clear 14 Over $ In Play $153.40 Under $ In Play $52.99 Total $ In Play $206.39 Over Profit $16.00 Under Profit $12.00 Total Profit $28.00

June 11 - Over Clear 6 Under Clear 2 Total Clear 8 Over $ In Play $104.54 Under $ In Play $82.56 Total $ In Play $187.10 Over Profit $12.00 Under Profit $4.00 Total Profit $16.00

Totals - Over Clear 42 Under Clear 46 Total Clear 88 Over $ In Play $71.95 Under $ In Play $145.89 Total $ In Play $217.84 Over Profit $84.00 Under Profit $92.00 Total Profit $176.00

I have my labby set for $2.00 per line since I am still in the testing phase. After tonight my Total $ In Play will drop quite a bit since most of today's games were Unders.

IceBet

Hi IceBet, sounds like a good system, well done! Have you tried backtesting it in a longer streak? Just to check how the labby lines would behave? Thanks man!

[DreJay25]

Can someone please send me a message explaining exactly what a labby is???? I am still in the infancy stages of learning how to gamble/cap the correct way.... thanks

[guesshwu]

Keep up the good work wallco! Bol today

[BCC585]

Can someone please send me a message explaining exactly what a labby is???? I am still in the infancy stages of learning how to gamble/cap the correct way.... thanks

Same here

[Wallco99]

Wallco MLB PLU$$$ - Plays for 6/13/11
2011 System to date: 87-6
System profit/loss: +18.73 units (finished series)
Since my first post: -1.54 units (72-6) (fin. series)
Current open series: 0


Milwaukee @ Chicago Cubs (M/L) (A) *Official* (8:05 pm EDT)
Milwaukee @ Chicago Cubs (-1½) (A) *Official* (8:05 pm EDT)
San Diego @ Colorado (M/L) (A) *Official* (8:40 pm EDT)
San Diego @ Colorado (-1½) (A) *Official* (8:40 pm EDT)

** Do not place any wagers on teams unless the word “Official” appears next to the game. All lines and standings are based on final lines from ScoresandOdds.com. Some of the unofficial plays may change to the other team by game time. Official plays will not change. Keep checking for updated posts until all games are marked “official”. If your book is offering (+1½) on the (-1½) plays above, buy the alternate line for (-1½) on the team I have listed at (-1½), not the other team. NEVER PLAY (+1½) LINE ON ANY GAME IN THIS SYSTEM.
System backtest can be found in post #3446.

[IceBet]

Hi IceBet, sounds like a good system, well done! Have you tried backtesting it in a longer streak? Just to check how the labby lines would behave? Thanks man!

Hey goodone,

I have only done "official" backtesting from May 1, 2011 until my start date which was June 4, 2011. However, I have done lots of research on win rates and losing streaks for the past 5 - 10 years.

Lines all clear quickly.

IceBet

[thelimit0310]

Good luck everyone! And thanks Wallco!!

[Wallco99]

Good luck everyone! And thanks Wallco!!

[NZT-48]

did this forum vanish I havent seen a post since 8pm or is the site not working properly?

[BetaB]

ICE bet would you mind enlightened me on what you are doing with your OUI system?

My understanding is that you have 2 sets of labby lines one for under and another for over. Then you do labby on both sets of lines. If so, i wonder how could you be able to accommodation 15 plays on over when most 7am game won't be graded before the 10am game start, besides usually majority of MLB game started either 7am of 8am so how did you handle games that start at the same time?

THX

[BigOrangeBrother]

Thanks for the plays Wallco!!

[Wallco99]

Wallco MLB PLU$$$
2011 System to date: 88-6
System profit/loss: +19.73 units (finished series)
Since my first post: -0.54 units (73-6) (fin. series)
Current open series: 3 (-3.65 units)

(6/13/11) Colorado (M/L) (A) – Loss
(6/13/11) Colorado (-1½) (A) – Loss
(6/13/11) Chicago Cubs (M/L) (A) – Win
(6/13/11) Chicago Cubs (-1½) (A) - Loss

(A) 49-48
(B) 20-25
(C) 12-13
(D) 7-6


Games for (6/14/11):
Milwaukee (-1 ½) @ Chicago Cubs (B) *Official* (8:05 pm EDT)
San Diego @ Colorado (M/L) (B) (8:40 pm EDT)
San Diego @ Colorado (-1½) (B) (8:40 pm EDT)
St. Louis @ Washington (M/L) (A) *Official* (7:05 pm EDT)
Florida @ Philadelphia (M/L) (A) *Official* (7:05 pm EDT)
Florida @ Philadelphia (-1½) (A) *Official* (7:05 pm EDT)
San Francisco (M/L) @ Arizona (A) (9:40 pm EDT)


** Do not place any wagers on teams unless the word “Official” appears next to the game. All lines and standings are based on final lines from ScoresandOdds.com. Some of the unofficial plays may change to the other team by game time. Official plays will not change. Keep checking for updated posts until all games are marked “official”. If your book is offering (+1½) on the (-1½) plays above, buy the alternate line for (-1½) on the team I have listed at (-1½), not the other team. NEVER PLAY (+1½) LINE ON ANY GAME IN THIS SYSTEM.
System backtest can be found in post #3446.

[pagodo]

Nice one, Wallco

[bauerranch]

Thanks for the early post Walco- I am traveling today and it helps that they are early

[cisco]

http://platinumsportsinvesting.com/labourchere.aspx

[thelimit0310]

Arizona is one of the two official JM MLB bets today, looks like we got another system clash today unless Wallcos pick changes

[canepole]

lets get em

[hagball52]

JM MLB System

2011 Official season series record 10-1 (v1)
(A) 7-4
(B) 2-2
(C) 1-1
V2 plays 1-0
V3 system 1-1
Unofficial series 6-0

Next Plays

Official
(6/14/2011) Detroit (.515)v Cleveland (.511) M/L (A) (6/15 (B) & 6/16 (C) if necessary)
(6/14/2011) Arizona (.505)v San Francisco (.516) M/L (A) (6/15 (B) & 6/16 (C) if necessary)

Upcoming Plays
(6/17/2011) Oakland v San Francisco

Notes: I'm going to go a stick an icepick in my eye. It'll make me feel better after Morrison's latest email. Unfortunately he didn't take me off his list. But he did not accept the NYY (C) bet loss either. He just disqualified it because of the Red Sox being top 2 in the rpi. We will keep it scored as a LOSS on this page. I did fire off an email to him but he's probably wiping his butt with it. On another note today's plays look good for both series. Yesterday there were actually 3 possible sweeps because of the continuation of the DET/TAM series awhile back from a rain out. That one became a future play:
TAM v DET (8/22) Mark it down.
Morrison never ceases to blow me away with his audacity. God, I hope I read in the news someday where he's met some ill fortune. GL all today.

P.S. Arizona is a slight favorite at this time but the line could shift throughout the day so you all know what that means.

[dlunc3]

The Hedge Chase

6/14/11

Cleveland *OVER* - 19:05 EST (B bet)
NYY *OVER* - 19:05 EST (A bet)
Boston *UNDER* - 19:10 EST (B bet)
CHC *OVER* - 20:05 EST (B bet)
SD *OVER* - 20:40 EST (B bet)
Oakland *UNDER* - 22:05 EST (A bet)


Record: 2-1
-2.85 units
4 series pending

**Plays are on the game totals, not team totals