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  • JerseyShop101
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    • 09-04-08
    • 2704

    #806
    Originally posted by therber2
    So what does this mean to you Jersey? Would you say it means they are due to score more based on their season average, or they will continue the slump. Could go either way.
    I'm fading the slumping teams, til they show signs of life.

    Not being lazy (copy pasting from thread I made earlier):


    Going into Wednesday night the 3 lowest RunScoringInnings teams were:

    Phillies (26-19) - had scored in only 1 inning of their last 29 innings (3.4%) in which they have batted in. They get shutout and have now only scored in 1 inning of their last 38 (2.6%).

    San Francisco Giants (23-22) - Huge -245 favorite, had scored in only 2 innings out of their last 38 (5.3%). They score single runs in 3 separate innings in an upset loss to Washington. They have now still only scored in 5 of their last 47 innings (10.6%).

    Pittsburgh Pirates (20-27) - Had scored in only 8 of their last 56 innings (14.2%), they get shutout by Cincinnati. They have now only scored in 8 of their last 65 innings (12.3%).

    Thursday Plays:

    Mets +110 vs. Phillies
    Nationals +160 vs. Giants
    Reds -184 vs. Pirates

    I just added:

    Relooking the stats, the Cardinals have only scored in 1 inning of their last 22 innings in which they batted in (4.5%), and are also 4 for their last 32 (12.5%).

    Adding STL to Thursday's "Fade the Teams in a Scoring Slump":
    SD -114

    Looking at the Phillies again, they are not only 1 for their last 38 (2.6%), but are also 9 for their last 70 (12.9%)!

    (MLB season average for Scored Innings is 27.5%)





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    • therber2
      Restricted User
      • 12-22-08
      • 3715

      #807
      Originally posted by Vinny Vidivicci
      Window-8 System -

      Wednesday, May 26th -

      Kansas City +1.5 Runs WON
      Angels -131 Moneyline WON
      Baltimore -111 Moneyline LOST
      Florida +1.5 Runs LOST
      Dodgers +1.5 Runs WON

      Thursday, May 27th -

      LA Dodgers +1.5 Runs
      Colorado +1.5 Runs
      Baltimore +1.5 Runs

      Good Luck -

      ~Vinny Vidivicci
      Looking good so far today Vinny
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      • therber2
        Restricted User
        • 12-22-08
        • 3715

        #808
        Originally posted by JerseyShop101
        I'm fading the slumping teams, til they show signs of life.

        Not being lazy (copy pasting from thread I made earlier):


        Going into Wednesday night the 3 lowest RunScoringInnings teams were:

        Phillies (26-19) - had scored in only 1 inning of their last 29 innings (3.4%) in which they have batted in. They get shutout and have now only scored in 1 inning of their last 38 (2.6%).

        San Francisco Giants (23-22) - Huge -245 favorite, had scored in only 2 innings out of their last 38 (5.3%). They score single runs in 3 separate innings in an upset loss to Washington. They have now still only scored in 5 of their last 47 innings (10.6%).

        Pittsburgh Pirates (20-27) - Had scored in only 8 of their last 56 innings (14.2%), they get shutout by Cincinnati. They have now only scored in 8 of their last 65 innings (12.3%).

        Thursday Plays:

        Mets +110 vs. Phillies
        Nationals +160 vs. Giants
        Reds -184 vs. Pirates

        I just added:

        Relooking the stats, the Cardinals have only scored in 1 inning of their last 22 innings in which they batted in (4.5%), and are also 4 for their last 32 (12.5%).

        Adding STL to Thursday's "Fade the Teams in a Scoring Slump":
        SD -114

        Looking at the Phillies again, they are not only 1 for their last 38 (2.6%), but are also 9 for their last 70 (12.9%)!

        (MLB season average for Scored Innings is 27.5%)





        Hey there Jersey!

        Always full of solid ideas aren't cha.

        I like your read on today's games. Trying to get a new interesting feature on cleanuphitter right now with Steve. Plays kind of half assed today and yesterday. Pretty busy.

        Vinny's got some nice tricks up his sleeve right now that we are working on. Vinny will let you know soon if I'll be able to get you those logs.

        Also lost a fine gentleman, sycoogtit. Just sort of left; hope to see you back sometime sycoog. If not good luck with stuff pal.

        ~therbs
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        • therber2
          Restricted User
          • 12-22-08
          • 3715

          #809
          Originally posted by Panekkkk
          Just gotta take trends and play around with them a bit and ensure they are profitable each year...

          Doesn't always guarantee prospective success though
          Panekkkk what does the o in o:WP<46 mean? o:
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          • therber2
            Restricted User
            • 12-22-08
            • 3715

            #810
            5/28 leans

            pythaginn leans:

            OAK +105
            CLE +240
            CUB +124
            CIN -122
            TOR -179
            PHI +118
            KC +182
            PIT +160
            CWS +193
            NYM +104
            MIN -123
            LOS +143
            LAA +102
            WAS +138
            SFO -140

            Note: This is going where the expectation is showing value meaning exp.>act.
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            • therber2
              Restricted User
              • 12-22-08
              • 3715

              #811
              FilteredWP

              Filter #1 1 unit

              CUB +124

              CIN -122
              TOR -179
              LAA +102
              SFO -140
              MIN -123
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              • therber2
                Restricted User
                • 12-22-08
                • 3715

                #812
                FilteredCH

                Filter #2 1 unit

                oak +105
                cin -122
                tor -179
                phi +118
                tex +120
                los +143
                sfo -140
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                • therber2
                  Restricted User
                  • 12-22-08
                  • 3715

                  #813
                  Best Bets

                  CIN -122 (3 units)
                  TOR -179 (3 units)
                  SFO -140 (4 units)
                  NYM +104 (.5 units)
                  MIN -122 (.5 units)


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                  • oda11
                    SBR MVP
                    • 06-05-09
                    • 3250

                    #814
                    BOL therrr!
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                    • JerseyShop101
                      Restricted User
                      • 09-04-08
                      • 2704

                      #815
                      Originally posted by therber2
                      Hey there Jersey!

                      Always full of solid ideas aren't cha.

                      I like your read on today's games. Trying to get a new interesting feature on cleanuphitter right now with Steve. Plays kind of half assed today and yesterday. Pretty busy.

                      Vinny's got some nice tricks up his sleeve right now that we are working on. Vinny will let you know soon if I'll be able to get you those logs.

                      Also lost a fine gentleman, sycoogtit. Just sort of left; hope to see you back sometime sycoog. If not good luck with stuff pal.

                      ~therbs
                      I try, lol.

                      Split today 2-2 -0.04.

                      Phils have now scored:

                      1 out of their last 47 innings (2.1%)
                      9 out of their last 79 innings (11.3%)

                      Right above them is the Pirates who have scored in only 10 out of their last 74 innings (13.5%).

                      Fading them again on Friday.

                      FLA -124
                      ATL -170

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                      • Vinny Vidivicci
                        SBR High Roller
                        • 04-05-10
                        • 111

                        #816
                        Window-8 System

                        Thursday, May 27th -

                        LA Dodgers +1.5 Runs WON
                        Colorado +1.5 Runs WON
                        Baltimore +1.5 Runs LOST

                        Friday, May 28th -

                        Cubs +1.5 Runs
                        Cincinnati -115 Moneyline
                        Florida -117 Moneyline
                        Washington +1.5 Runs
                        LA Angels +1.5 Runs

                        Good Luck

                        ~ Vinny Vidivicci
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                        • therber2
                          Restricted User
                          • 12-22-08
                          • 3715

                          #817
                          Originally posted by JerseyShop101
                          I try, lol.

                          Split today 2-2 -0.04.

                          Phils have now scored:

                          1 out of their last 47 innings (2.1%)
                          9 out of their last 79 innings (11.3%)

                          Right above them is the Pirates who have scored in only 10 out of their last 74 innings (13.5%).

                          Fading them again on Friday.

                          FLA -124
                          ATL -170

                          Hey There pal. I like this idea never thought to look at this angle; however, my hunch is that it would work the opposite way. I would be taking the side that the law of averages favors here; however, I never play that angle right. Never ever do haha. Working on it. I like Volstad and the Pirates are real real bad. BOL with both of these.

                          Are you working in another thread somewhere Jersey or just hoppin around? Always interested to see what you are up to.
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                          • therber2
                            Restricted User
                            • 12-22-08
                            • 3715

                            #818
                            Originally posted by Vinny Vidivicci
                            Window-8 System

                            Thursday, May 27th -

                            LA Dodgers +1.5 Runs WON
                            Colorado +1.5 Runs WON
                            Baltimore +1.5 Runs LOST

                            Friday, May 28th -

                            Cubs +1.5 Runs
                            Cincinnati -115 Moneyline
                            Florida -117 Moneyline
                            Washington +1.5 Runs
                            LA Angels +1.5 Runs

                            Good Luck

                            ~ Vinny Vidivicci
                            Nice work Vinny.

                            Alright well I see we are both on (oh and CougarBait is on em too.)

                            CINCI

                            and you and Jersey both like

                            FLA
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                            • Vinny Vidivicci
                              SBR High Roller
                              • 04-05-10
                              • 111

                              #819
                              Florida just got swept by Atlanta and Philly just got swept by the Mets. Who is going to end the drought here? Might be a good UNDER - or not.

                              I'm not crazy about Florida, but the system picked them.

                              ~ VV
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                              • therber2
                                Restricted User
                                • 12-22-08
                                • 3715

                                #820
                                Originally posted by Vinny Vidivicci
                                Florida just got swept by Atlanta and Philly just got swept by the Mets. Who is going to end the drought here? Might be a good UNDER - or not.

                                I'm not crazy about Florida, but the system picked them.

                                ~ VV
                                Aw $hit forgot about sweeps. Today Toronto is playing Balti who they previously swept some a little less on that Toronto play. Still though; the Orioles are at the bottom of the food chain. Cinci is playing Houston (low on the food chain as well) who was previously swept. I will account for both of these.

                                Vinny, FLA won the first game against ATL. No sweep. Yes, the Phillies were just swept by the Mets and now up against FLA.

                                Thanks for bringing this up. Did you get my email?
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                                • therber2
                                  Restricted User
                                  • 12-22-08
                                  • 3715

                                  #821
                                  Originally posted by oda11
                                  BOL therrr!
                                  Thanks oda. How do you always stay so cool?
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                                  • oda11
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 06-05-09
                                    • 3250

                                    #822
                                    Takes time and practice buddy, LOL!
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                                    • Vinny Vidivicci
                                      SBR High Roller
                                      • 04-05-10
                                      • 111

                                      #823
                                      You're right about Florida; my mistake.

                                      ~ VV
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                                      • Panekkkk
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 03-12-09
                                        • 2430

                                        #824
                                        Originally posted by therber2
                                        Panekkkk what does the o in o:WP<46 mean? o:
                                        Sorry, took a bit to get back to ya

                                        o = opponent

                                        so it means that the opponent's win percentage (WP) is less than 46 (0.460)
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                                        • Panekkkk
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 03-12-09
                                          • 2430

                                          #825
                                          Originally posted by therber2
                                          Thanks guys for the help! Saved me a bunch of time. Ten points to anyone who can figure out the query for a team swept now playing the team again for another 3 game series (home, away, favorite, doesn't matter). You guys probably know the silly JM system right? Basically a query for that. No, its not silly; actually has a lot of bearing on things.

                                          This is a factor I take into account but I don't like having to keep a log or fish it out of the JM thread. I think that it definately does matter though. Don't play the system, but I don't like to play against it.
                                          P:L and PP:L and PPP:L and P:SG=3 and P:SGS=3 and P:season=season and SGS=3

                                          ... is the query for what you've described above. This is regardless of site or favorite status. This query would return the result for series game=1 of a 3-game series. It assumes that the last series, in which the team was swept, was a 3-game series. The capital 'P' stands for 'previous matchup' which means the last game the two teams met whereas using a lowercase 'p' just refers to a team's last game, regardless of who the opponent was.
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                                          • Panekkkk
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 03-12-09
                                            • 2430

                                            #826
                                            Originally posted by peterpan19
                                            whats the difference ?

                                            SG is the No. 3 game in a series
                                            SGS is any third 3 , which is even better when using series games=3 and pW and ppL and D -> 90 units since 2004, but for this year it is not that good, down 9 units
                                            You have it a bit confused... SGS=3 simply means a 3-game series. SG refers to the actually game # within a series.

                                            So "SG=2 and SGS=3" means game 2 of a 3-game series
                                            "SG=2 and SGS=4" means game 2 of a 4-game series

                                            If you just type SG=2 without taking into account SGS, then you get all 2nd games of a series, which could be part of a 2, 3, 4 or even 5-game series. The # of series games usually has a large impact on the results.
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                                            • therber2
                                              Restricted User
                                              • 12-22-08
                                              • 3715

                                              #827
                                              Originally posted by Panekkkk
                                              Sorry, took a bit to get back to ya

                                              o = opponent

                                              so it means that the opponent's win percentage (WP) is less than 46 (0.460)
                                              Awesome!

                                              Originally posted by Panekkkk
                                              P:L and PP:L and PPP:L and P:SG=3 and P:SGS=3 and P:season=season and SGS=3

                                              ... is the query for what you've described above. This is regardless of site or favorite status. This query would return the result for series game=1 of a 3-game series. It assumes that the last series, in which the team was swept, was a 3-game series. The capital 'P' stands for 'previous matchup' which means the last game the two teams met whereas using a lowercase 'p' just refers to a team's last game, regardless of who the opponent was.
                                              And the winner is Panekkkk. Thanks brutha. That saves me some time as I have decided that these will be important filters for my picks.
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                                              • therber2
                                                Restricted User
                                                • 12-22-08
                                                • 3715

                                                #828
                                                Well today I fought the fight, and put some folks in the place where they have needed to be. Karma straightens everything out; I always have faith in that. Thanks to all for your messages of support. Turning in for the day. With bets lookin' good here, and eh.. not so good in some other places.

                                                On to bigger and better things. It appears that Mr. Vinny and I could be onto something. Vinny if you'll notice, some filters were applied with codes for myself. If they prove useful I'll fill you in. Today the filter I openly applied was the prev. sweep filter. Special thanks to Panekkkk for the query line to save me some time.

                                                Turns out sometimes a team just has another teams number and they beat them all year long. Maybe that is what happened today. Still though I think the sweep filter/adjustment is essential.

                                                I'll be doing this for a long time for those interested; some of you asked. Next season I am going to make an effort to consolidate picks more than I did here this season. Picks are always free, and there is no bull$hit. I'll be here at SBR as it has been a great place to talk freely without any worries of big brother knockin on your door. Never go tout folks always remember that. I get asked this question repeatedly by family and friends "why aren't you charging." Greed ain't in mah blood. Someone smack me over the head with this statement is I ever do years from now; smack me as hard as you fvcking can.
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                                                • therber2
                                                  Restricted User
                                                  • 12-22-08
                                                  • 3715

                                                  #829
                                                  Originally posted by therber2
                                                  pythaginn leans:

                                                  OAK +105
                                                  CLE +240
                                                  CUB +124

                                                  CIN -122
                                                  TOR -179
                                                  PHI +118
                                                  KC +182

                                                  PIT +160
                                                  CWS +193
                                                  NYM +104
                                                  MIN -123
                                                  LOS +143

                                                  LAA +102
                                                  WAS +138
                                                  SFO -140

                                                  Note: This is going where the expectation is showing value meaning exp.>act.
                                                  10-5 (66.6%) on the leans
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                                                  • therber2
                                                    Restricted User
                                                    • 12-22-08
                                                    • 3715

                                                    #830
                                                    Originally posted by therber2
                                                    Filter #1 1 unitCUB +124
                                                    CIN -122
                                                    TOR -179

                                                    LAA +102
                                                    SFO -140
                                                    MIN -123

                                                    Filter #1 goes 4-2 (66.66%) adding 2 units

                                                    Originally posted by therber2
                                                    Filter #2 1 unit

                                                    oak +105
                                                    cin -122
                                                    tor -179
                                                    phi +118
                                                    tex +120
                                                    los +143
                                                    sfo -140
                                                    Filter 2 goes 6-1 (85.7%) adding 5.66 units
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                                                    • therber2
                                                      Restricted User
                                                      • 12-22-08
                                                      • 3715

                                                      #831
                                                      Originally posted by therber2

                                                      CIN -122 (3 units)
                                                      TOR -179 (3 units)
                                                      SFO -140 (4 units)

                                                      NYM +104 (.5 units)
                                                      MIN -122 (.5 units)
                                                      Best bets go 4-1 (80%) adding 10 units

                                                      Not a bad day at all. Cleaned out the trash and made it all back. Ain't looking too bad Vinny. I'm going to run it for tomorrow see what we get.
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                                                      • therber2
                                                        Restricted User
                                                        • 12-22-08
                                                        • 3715

                                                        #832
                                                        Just a bump. Something that served me well before:

                                                        * Play Against - Road underdogs with a money line of +100 to +150 - AL team with a low on-base percentage (<=.320) with a poor bullpen whose WHIP is 1.550 or worse on the season, against a team with a good bullpen (WHIP <=1.350), (36-7 over the last 5 seasons.) (83.7%, +27.4 units. Rating=4*)."
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                                                        • therber2
                                                          Restricted User
                                                          • 12-22-08
                                                          • 3715

                                                          #833
                                                          Panekkkk do you think that the above^ could be queried?
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                                                          • therber2
                                                            Restricted User
                                                            • 12-22-08
                                                            • 3715

                                                            #834
                                                            5/29

                                                            Leans:

                                                            STL +125
                                                            NYM +117
                                                            ATL -196
                                                            HOU +165
                                                            FLA +116
                                                            COL -130
                                                            WAS +152
                                                            SFO -152
                                                            TOR -180
                                                            CLE +270
                                                            SEA +183
                                                            TEX +127
                                                            OAK +123
                                                            TAM -136
                                                            BOS -134
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                                                            • mebaran
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 09-16-09
                                                              • 1540

                                                              #835
                                                              Originally posted by therber2
                                                              Just a bump. Something that served me well before:

                                                              * Play Against - Road underdogs with a money line of +100 to +150 - AL team with a low on-base percentage (<=.320) with a poor bullpen whose WHIP is 1.550 or worse on the season, against a team with a good bullpen (WHIP <=1.350), (36-7 over the last 5 seasons.) (83.7%, +27.4 units. Rating=4*) The situation's record this season is: (1-0 +1 units)."
                                                              Which game was this on? I was keeping tabs with this one, but I lost track.
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                                                              • therber2
                                                                Restricted User
                                                                • 12-22-08
                                                                • 3715

                                                                #836
                                                                Oh no game; I just brought it back since it is IMO the most logical trend I've seen on statfox. Rd 2 picks coming up...
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                                                                • mebaran
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 09-16-09
                                                                  • 1540

                                                                  #837
                                                                  Originally posted by therber2
                                                                  Just a bump. Something that served me well before:

                                                                  * Play Against - Road underdogs with a money line of +100 to +150 - AL team with a low on-base percentage (<=.320) with a poor bullpen whose WHIP is 1.550 or worse on the season, against a team with a good bullpen (WHIP <=1.350), (36-7 over the last 5 seasons.) (83.7%, +27.4 units. Rating=4*) The situation's record this season is: (1-0 +1 units)."
                                                                  I meant which game this season did the +1 unit come from? Thanks.
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                                                                  • therber2
                                                                    Restricted User
                                                                    • 12-22-08
                                                                    • 3715

                                                                    #838
                                                                    1st Round

                                                                    Filter1wp:

                                                                    ATL -196
                                                                    SDG -162
                                                                    COL -130
                                                                    SFO -152
                                                                    TOR -180
                                                                    DET -117
                                                                    TAM -136
                                                                    BOS -134



                                                                    Filter 2:

                                                                    STL +125
                                                                    NYM +117
                                                                    ATL -196
                                                                    SDG -162
                                                                    TOR -180
                                                                    TEX +127
                                                                    OAK +123
                                                                    TAM -136
                                                                    BOS -134
                                                                    LOS +120
                                                                    SFO -152

                                                                    Close cut for filters 1 and 2 and a JM [b] bet
                                                                    HOU +165 +1.5

                                                                    1 unit each
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                                                                    • therber2
                                                                      Restricted User
                                                                      • 12-22-08
                                                                      • 3715

                                                                      #839
                                                                      Originally posted by mebaran
                                                                      I meant which game this season did the +1 unit come from? Thanks.
                                                                      Ah gotcha. Well I should take that record out actually since I posted that early in the season. Would be interested to see how that situation is doing at this point. I don't know which game that was; it was way back.
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                                                                      • mebaran
                                                                        SBR MVP
                                                                        • 09-16-09
                                                                        • 1540

                                                                        #840
                                                                        Well, my records indicate that there were no plays from 4/25 to 5/11. That's all I have. But I'll start being more diligent and looking for them as I, too, think this is a great trend. If I end up finding one that fit's these parameters, I'll be more than happy to post it here. (Realistically, even if this trend only hits 65% long term, it'll still be profitable because of the small amount of juice).
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