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  • doubledime
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 04-22-09
    • 9751

    #1121
    Good morning,

    The Reliever Plays for Thursday:

    Mia/Reds over 7.5
    Wash/Atl over 9
    Mets/SF over 6
    Sea/LAA over 8


    Back later with any Regular Plays

    Good luck
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    • doubledime
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 04-22-09
      • 9751

      #1122
      Passing on the afternoon card

      Back later

      Good luck
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      • doubledime
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 04-22-09
        • 9751

        #1123
        Good evening,

        The Regular Plays for Thursday:

        AZ/SD over 8.5 -110

        Good luck
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        • hit_me90
          SBR Wise Guy
          • 02-18-16
          • 618

          #1124
          thank you mucho sir
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          • TechnicalTrader
            SBR MVP
            • 05-09-16
            • 1434

            #1125
            Originally posted by doubledime
            Good morning,

            The Reliever Plays for Thursday:

            Mia/Reds over 7.5
            Wash/Atl over 9
            Mets/SF over 6
            Sea/LAA over 8


            Back later with any Regular Plays

            Good luck
            Killed it, absolutely killed it again!!!!! Great job!
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            • doubledime
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 04-22-09
              • 9751

              #1126
              Originally posted by hit_me90
              thank you mucho sir
              Thanks Hit and thanks for the points.
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              • doubledime
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 04-22-09
                • 9751

                #1127
                Originally posted by TechnicalTrader
                Killed it, absolutely killed it again!!!!! Great job!
                Thanks TT You had a nice day yourself
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                • doubledime
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 04-22-09
                  • 9751

                  #1128
                  Good morning,

                  Yesterday

                  Regular Plays: 1-0
                  YTD: 108-70 +28.75 units

                  Reliever Plays: 4-0
                  YTD 306-221

                  Back later with today's card
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                  • doubledime
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 04-22-09
                    • 9751

                    #1129
                    Good morning,

                    The Reliever Plays for Friday:

                    LAD/Reds over 9
                    Mets/SF over 7.5
                    AZ/SD over 7.5


                    Back later with any Regular Plays

                    Good luck
                    Last edited by doubledime; 08-19-16, 09:15 AM.
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                    • TechnicalTrader
                      SBR MVP
                      • 05-09-16
                      • 1434

                      #1130
                      Originally posted by doubledime
                      Good morning,

                      The Reliever Plays for Friday:

                      LAD/Reds over 9
                      Mets/SF over 7
                      AZ/SD over 7.5


                      Back later with any Regular Plays

                      Good luck
                      Thanks my man, will be trailing. hell I'm putting up 3% per bet! Got a lot of trust in you buddy!

                      Let's make some money today!
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                      • juicername
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 10-14-15
                        • 6906

                        #1131
                        Originally posted by doubledime
                        Good morning,

                        The Reliever Plays for Friday:

                        LAD/Reds over 9
                        Mets/SF over 7
                        AZ/SD over 7.5


                        Back later with any Regular Plays

                        Good luck
                        I guess the line won't be 7 with Lugo instead of Matz for Mets?

                        And absolutely love the AZ/SD over. 7.5 looks extremely low both considering the pitching mathup and bullpens.
                        Last edited by juicername; 08-19-16, 07:40 AM.
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                        • doubledime
                          SBR Hall of Famer
                          • 04-22-09
                          • 9751

                          #1132
                          Originally posted by TechnicalTrader
                          Thanks my man, will be trailing. hell I'm putting up 3% per bet! Got a lot of trust in you buddy!

                          Let's make some money today!
                          Thanks TT, but remember the Reliever Plays are ONLY based on Reliever information, nothing else. I have to keep reminding myself, since sometimes when I post a Reliever Play, I know other factors will be against it, yet they continue to win at a good %
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                          • doubledime
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 04-22-09
                            • 9751

                            #1133
                            Originally posted by juicername
                            I guess the line won't be 7 with Lugo instead of Matz for Mets?

                            And absolutely love the AZ/SD over. 7.5 looks extremely low both considering the pitching mathup and bullpens.
                            Yes, it will be different, but remember the Reliever Plays have nothing to do with any other metric, weather, ballpark, starters, line etc. I will change the line in my original post. thanks
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                            • hit_me90
                              SBR Wise Guy
                              • 02-18-16
                              • 618

                              #1134
                              DD its a slow day for me so if you have time, pls answer. Do you cap football the same way as baseball all totals with a few sides
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                              • doubledime
                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                • 04-22-09
                                • 9751

                                #1135
                                Originally posted by hit_me90
                                DD its a slow day for me so if you have time, pls answer. Do you cap football the same way as baseball all totals with a few sides
                                I do handicap football totals but differently. I am not a big fan (handicapping wise) of football. Since the odds makers have a week to massage the lines, most line are very close to where they should be. On the other hand, college basketball has several games every night, and there is where we have a better chance to exploit any weak line.
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                                • HeeluvaGuy
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 02-15-14
                                  • 3449

                                  #1136
                                  Originally posted by doubledime
                                  Yes, it will be different, but remember the Reliever Plays have nothing to do with any other metric, weather, ballpark, starters, line etc. I will change the line in my original post. thanks
                                  I think there are good reasons for this. Starters may try to conserve energy to go longer when the pen is stressed. Managers might leave them in for a bit longer. Hitters may be more focused. Etc. Ultimatey, results are all that matters, and the reliever plays are full of good results.
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                                  • doubledime
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 04-22-09
                                    • 9751

                                    #1137
                                    Originally posted by HeeluvaGuy
                                    I think there are good reasons for this. Starters may try to conserve energy to go longer when the pen is stressed. Managers might leave them in for a bit longer. Hitters may be more focused. Etc. Ultimatey, results are all that matters, and the reliever plays are full of good results.
                                    Very good points. I never even thought of that. Plus I have always said that the starters are "baked" into to line. The other night Mets/SF the total was 6 due to the starters, and it was an over Reliever Play, and it went way over.
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                                    • HeeluvaGuy
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 02-15-14
                                      • 3449

                                      #1138
                                      Originally posted by doubledime
                                      I do handicap football totals but differently. I am not a big fan (handicapping wise) of football. Since the odds makers have a week to massage the lines, most line are very close to where they should be. On the other hand, college basketball has several games every night, and there is where we have a better chance to exploit any weak line.
                                      I assume you're talking about NFL totals? College football totals can be soft sometimes, but I only spot play anything in the NFL. Market is way too tough IMO.

                                      Not to derail, but I haven't found a good replacement for college basketball ref data. If you have one, please let me know.
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                                      • doubledime
                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                        • 04-22-09
                                        • 9751

                                        #1139
                                        Originally posted by HeeluvaGuy
                                        I assume you're talking about NFL totals? College football totals can be soft sometimes, but I only spot play anything in the NFL. Market is way too tough IMO.

                                        Not to derail, but I haven't found a good replacement for college basketball ref data. If you have one, please let me know.
                                        IMO in college hoops, since there is a crew of refs, they are not as important as one home plate umpire. In hockey, on the other hand, the refs can make a difference in the total based on penalties. If they call more penalties there will be more power plays. Last year I had pretty good luck with totals in the regular season, but not in the play offs.
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                                        • HeeluvaGuy
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 02-15-14
                                          • 3449

                                          #1140
                                          Originally posted by doubledime
                                          IMO in college hoops, since there is a crew of refs, they are not as important as one home plate umpire. In hockey, on the other hand, the refs can make a difference in the total based on penalties. If they call more penalties there will be more power plays. Last year I had pretty good luck with totals in the regular season, but not in the play offs.
                                          I agree to the extent that I don't think CBB refs form the sole basis for a play, but it can be helpful. For example, the over numbers in the Pac 12 last season (and the other conferences those refs work - MWC, Big West, WCC, and WAC) were disproportionately high last season from my recollection. I'll try to find the numbers, but I played a lot of overs in those conferences last year using that trend.
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                                          • doubledime
                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                            • 04-22-09
                                            • 9751

                                            #1141
                                            Originally posted by HeeluvaGuy
                                            I agree to the extent that I don't think CBB refs form the sole basis for a play, but it can be helpful. For example, the over numbers in the Pac 12 last season (and the other conferences those refs work - MWC, Big West, WCC, and WAC) were disproportionately high last season from my recollection. I'll try to find the numbers, but I played a lot of overs in those conferences last year using that trend.
                                            Good to know and would interested in learning more.
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                                            • HeeluvaGuy
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 02-15-14
                                              • 3449

                                              #1142
                                              I'm on a phone, so this isn't going to be neat, but here are the numbers (O-U in 2015-2016 CBB):

                                              PAC 12: 212-169 (54.2%)
                                              MWC: 184-146 (55.7%)
                                              WCC: 152-141 (51.9%)
                                              WAC: 15-46 (36.6%)

                                              Total: 563-482 (53.8%)

                                              I stumbled on this early in the season reading some articles about rule changes, etc. There was a lot of discussion about strictly enforcing the new rules, which led to a lot of foul calls. These conferences share a group of officials, and with the exception of the WAC (which doesn't typically have lines) the trend was pretty clear.
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                                              • HeeluvaGuy
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 02-15-14
                                                • 3449

                                                #1143
                                                Originally posted by HeeluvaGuy
                                                I'm on a phone, so this isn't going to be neat, but here are the numbers (O-U in 2015-2016 CBB):

                                                PAC 12: 212-169 (54.2%)
                                                MWC: 184-146 (55.7%)
                                                WCC: 152-141 (51.9%)
                                                WAC: 15-46 (36.6%)

                                                Total: 563-482 (53.8%)

                                                I stumbled on this early in the season reading some articles about rule changes, etc. There was a lot of discussion about strictly enforcing the new rules, which led to a lot of foul calls. These conferences share a group of officials, and with the exception of the WAC (which doesn't typically have lines) the trend was pretty clear.
                                                Ignore this. I need to filter for conference games.
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                                                • HeeluvaGuy
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 02-15-14
                                                  • 3449

                                                  #1144
                                                  Alright. Here are the numbers for conference games (O-U for 2015-16 men's college basketball):

                                                  PAC 12: 134-102 (56.8%)
                                                  MWC: 126-92 (57.8%)
                                                  WCC: 108-84 (56.25%)
                                                  WAC: 6-6 (50%)

                                                  Total: 374-284 (56.8%)

                                                  So if you had just blind bet the over in these conferences all season, you would have destroyed just about every handicapper out there.
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                                                  • doubledime
                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                    • 04-22-09
                                                    • 9751

                                                    #1145
                                                    Originally posted by HeeluvaGuy
                                                    Alright. Here are the numbers for conference games (O-U for 2015-16 men's college basketball):

                                                    PAC 12: 134-102 (56.8%)
                                                    MWC: 126-92 (57.8%)
                                                    WCC: 108-84 (56.25%)
                                                    WAC: 6-6 (50%)

                                                    Total: 374-284 (56.8%)

                                                    So if you had just blind bet the over in these conferences all season, you would have destroyed just about every handicapper out there.
                                                    Good stuff. Now the question is, will the books adjust this year?
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                                                    • HeeluvaGuy
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 02-15-14
                                                      • 3449

                                                      #1146
                                                      Originally posted by doubledime
                                                      Good stuff. Now the question is, will the books adjust this year?
                                                      Right. I was just using that as an example of the impact refs can have on college basketball. One happy consequence of me posting the season and conference total results is that you can clearly see that overs hit more often in conference than out of conference. From watching games I believe a lot of that had to do with officiating.
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                                                      • TechnicalTrader
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 05-09-16
                                                        • 1434

                                                        #1147
                                                        DD, any regular picks today??
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                                                        • iKushtyy
                                                          SBR High Roller
                                                          • 02-09-16
                                                          • 203

                                                          #1148
                                                          Quick Q, have you ever considered expanding the theory to TT's?
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                                                          • doubledime
                                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                                            • 04-22-09
                                                            • 9751

                                                            #1149
                                                            Good afternoon,

                                                            No Regular Picks today

                                                            Adding a Reliever Play that I missed earlier

                                                            Wash/Atl over 7.5

                                                            Good luck
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                                                            • doubledime
                                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                                              • 04-22-09
                                                              • 9751

                                                              #1150
                                                              Originally posted by TechnicalTrader
                                                              DD, any regular picks today??
                                                              Just posted. I know it's getting late by you
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                                                              • TechnicalTrader
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 05-09-16
                                                                • 1434

                                                                #1151
                                                                Originally posted by doubledime
                                                                Just posted. I know it's getting late by you
                                                                Thanks, I'll be staying up for the second inning's of the first games. Can't wait to see how the new system works.
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                                                                • doubledime
                                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                  • 04-22-09
                                                                  • 9751

                                                                  #1152
                                                                  Originally posted by iKushtyy
                                                                  Quick Q, have you ever considered expanding the theory to TT's?
                                                                  Yes, but I just have quite a bit on my plate right now. I may start looking at it however. It may expand the amount of plays because when I release a Reliever Play BOTH teams relief staffs, must qualify Many times only one team has an overworked or underworked relief staff thus I pass. In that scenario we could take a position on the other team.
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                                                                  • iKushtyy
                                                                    SBR High Roller
                                                                    • 02-09-16
                                                                    • 203

                                                                    #1153
                                                                    Yep that's my thoughts on it.. Obvi don't go mad with it, maybe tighten up any restrictions you have compared to total runs until you work out kinks, but I could see it being a profitable angle if there's just one poor starter with a taxed BP vs a hot-hitting team or just a generally good offence. Be even better if said team has a poor defence aswell. Hitters ballpark, ump, etc etc. I have kinda been doing this already in a half-arsed way, but I tell ya what, when you put up your relief plays, I'll look over and see if there's value in one TT or the other. Tonight I already have SF TT and Cin TT.
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                                                                    • HeeluvaGuy
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 02-15-14
                                                                      • 3449

                                                                      #1154
                                                                      DD - I found a Twitter follow that might help getting ump info for the first games of these series: @UmpCrew. I'm not positive when the info is posted, but I just set alerts to on to test it out for today's games. I'll let you know how it goes.
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                                                                      • HeeluvaGuy
                                                                        SBR MVP
                                                                        • 02-15-14
                                                                        • 3449

                                                                        #1155
                                                                        He's starting to post the crews for tonight's games. HP umps so far (only for first games of series):

                                                                        TEX/TAM: Whitson
                                                                        TOR/CLE: Estabrook

                                                                        Pretty good resource.
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