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  • blackHIPPY
    SBR MVP
    • 10-01-14
    • 3973

    #1051
    Hit lad Pitt 2nd half
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    • doubledime
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 04-22-09
      • 9751

      #1052
      Originally posted by blackHIPPY
      Hit lad Pitt 2nd half
      Actually I think it was a push at 12
      Last edited by doubledime; 08-14-16, 09:49 PM.
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      • doubledime
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 04-22-09
        • 9751

        #1053
        Thanks for the points BH
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        • doubledime
          SBR Hall of Famer
          • 04-22-09
          • 9751

          #1054
          Good evening,

          It's late and someone should check my figures on these second half totals. HERE IS MY SUMMARY:

          If you played the second half before the game started (Bookmaker) the Reliever Plays went 6-2-1
          If you played LIVE second half on the Reliever Plays you went 5-3-1
          If you played LIVE second half on ONLY the games that the second half total for the game, was LESS than the ORIGINAL TOTAL, it went 2-0

          Good night
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          • Mike Huntertz
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 08-19-09
            • 11207

            #1055
            I think overs were 13-2 today...all plays were over.
            Food for thought?
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            • Capybara
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 08-17-08
              • 11803

              #1056
              Originally posted by doubledime
              Good evening,

              It's late and someone should check my figures on these second half totals. HERE IS MY SUMMARY:

              If you played the second half before the game started (Bookmaker) the Reliever Plays went 6-2-1
              If you played LIVE second half on the Reliever Plays you went 5-3-1
              If you played LIVE second half on ONLY the games that the second half total for the game, was LESS than the ORIGINAL TOTAL, it went 2-0

              Good night
              Thanks for all the work on this, Double D! Great effort!

              My only question is, can you clarify the third one here for us, just out of curiosity? So you mean, if we played the LIVE OVER at the end of five innings (no matter what the books have it at for live play), and the posted live O/U was less than WHICH original total?... it went 2-0. Less than the original O/U for the game? You may have to always put EXAMPLES from now on since things are getting a little confusing in here.
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              • TechnicalTrader
                SBR MVP
                • 05-09-16
                • 1434

                #1057
                Originally posted by doubledime
                Good evening,

                It's late and someone should check my figures on these second half totals. HERE IS MY SUMMARY:

                If you played the second half before the game started (Bookmaker) the Reliever Plays went 6-2-1
                If you played LIVE second half on the Reliever Plays you went 5-3-1
                If you played LIVE second half on ONLY the games that the second half total for the game, was LESS than the ORIGINAL TOTAL, it went 2-0

                Good night
                BUT, but, but, but, but.... The entire league's bullpen pretty much sucked yesterday.

                The best way to play this is probably to just take the second half before the game. I should have some time today at work and will backtest this. Obviously we will not know where the 2H total was but what I can do is list the amount of runs scored during the second half. If that number clearly averages above 3.6-3.7, then we have a system which might have legs.
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                • TechnicalTrader
                  SBR MVP
                  • 05-09-16
                  • 1434

                  #1058
                  This is how the system would've performed in August. I used EU dates, please excuse me.

                  The system went 43-27-13, which is decent at 61.43% but I was assuming we'd take 3.0 totals rather than 3.5. If we were to assume that the totals were 3.5, the performance would've been 44-40.... Crappy

                  If anyone would like to view the excel sheet let me know and I'll send it to you.


                  Score Inn 1-5 Runs scored 6-9+ W L D
                  01.08.2016 Mia/Cubs over 7 4:0 1 L
                  Mil/SD over 7.5 6:2 2 L
                  Tor/Hou over 8 0:0 3 D
                  RS/Seat over 8 0:0 3 D 0 2 2
                  02.08.2016 Cards/Reds under 8.5 2:1 9 L
                  LAD/Col under 10.5 4:0 3 D
                  Wash/AZ over 8.5 2:6 6 W
                  Milw./SD over 7.5 1:1 3 D
                  Min/Clev over 8 6:8 2 L
                  KC/TB under 8 2:1 2 W
                  Tor/Hou over 8 0:2 1 L
                  NYY/Mets over 6 2:0 6 W 3 3 2
                  03.08.2016 Mia/Cubs over (no line yet) 0:1 8 W
                  Wash/AZ over 8 1:1 9 W
                  Min/Clev over 9 4:6 8 W 3 0 0
                  04.08.2016 SF/Philly over 8 1:2 3 D
                  Pit/Atl over 8.5 1:1 5 W
                  Min/Clev over 9 4:2 5 W
                  WS/Det under 8.5 1:6 2 W
                  TX/Balt under 9.5 2:4 2 W
                  Bost/Sea under 8.5 2:2 1 W
                  Mets/NYY over 8.5 0:4 1 L 5 1 1
                  05.08.2016 Reds/Pit over 8 2:1 2 L
                  Clev/NYY over 8 7:3 10 W
                  Min/TB over 7 1:1 6 W
                  LAA/Seat over 8.5 6:3 1 L 2 2 0
                  06.08.2016 SF/Wash under 8.5 0:4 4 L
                  Mia/Col over 11.5 2:3 13 W
                  Milw/AZ over 9.5 0:2 19 W
                  Clev/NYY over 8 2:2 3 D
                  Min/TB over 7 3:0 7 W
                  TX/Hou under 9 1:0 4 L 3 2 1
                  07.08.2016 Mia/Col over 10.5 5:8 3 D
                  Phili/SD over 7.5 2:5 4 W
                  LAA/Seat over 7.5 3:1 0 L 1 1 1
                  08.08.2016 Atl/Milw over 8.5 3:3 1 L
                  Reds/Cards over 8.5 0:4 5 W
                  TB/Tor over 9 4:4 4 W
                  Hous/Min over 9 3:0 1 L
                  Det/Seat under 8 2:0 1 W
                  TX/Col over 10.5 2:0 5 W 4 2 0
                  09.08.2016 SF/Mia over 8 2:0 0 L
                  AZ/Mets under 7.5 1:1 6 L
                  Atl/Milw over 9 1:0 2 L
                  Reds/Cards over 8.5 3:2 5 W
                  TB/Tor over 8.5 2:3 6 W
                  WS/KC under 8 3:4 5 L
                  Clev/Wash under 7.5 0:0 4 L
                  LAA/Cubs under (no line yet) 5:1 0 W 3 5 0
                  10.08.2016 Philly/LAD over 7.5 1:0 7 W
                  Atl/Mil over 9 4:2 1 L
                  Hou/Min over 8 --
                  Det/Seat over 7.5 1:1 2 L
                  LAA/Cubs under 9 2:0 2 W
                  Col/TX over 10 2:2 5 W 3 2 0
                  11.08.2016 Cards/Cubs under (no line yet) 3:2 2 W
                  Balt/Oak under 8.5 2:7 6 L
                  NYY/Bost over 9 2:1 3 D
                  WS/KC over 8 0:1 2 L
                  Atl/Mil over 9 5:0 9 W 2 2 1
                  12.08.2016 SD/Mets over 8.5 3:8 3 D
                  TB/NYY over 8.5 3:3 3 D
                  LAA/Clev over 8 7:3 6 W
                  Det/TX over 9 8:1 4 W
                  KC/Min over 8.5 3:3 4 W
                  Sea/Oak over 8 3:1 5 W
                  WS/Mia over 8 1:4 1 L 4 1 2
                  13.08.2016 Cards/Cubs over (no line yet) 2:0 10 W
                  Col/Philly over 7.5 4:0 5 W
                  SD/Mets over 7 1:0 4 W
                  TB/NYY over 8 6:3 3 D
                  KC/Min over 9 2:1 5 W
                  LAA/Cle over 9 4:1 1 L
                  WS/Mia over 8.5 7:5 3 D
                  AZ/Bost over 10 4:3 2 L 4 2 2
                  14.08.2016 Cards/Cubs over (no line yet) 2:1 7 W
                  SD/Mets over 8 2:0 4 W
                  Col/Philly over 9 6:3 4 W
                  Reds/Mil over 9.5 7:0 3 D
                  Pit/LAD over 8.5 2:7 5 W
                  LAA/Clev over 9 3:4 2 L
                  KC/Min over 9 2:7 4 W
                  WS/Mia over 7 3:2 4 W
                  AZ/Bost over 9 16:1 1 L 6 2 1
                  Last edited by TechnicalTrader; 08-15-16, 04:35 AM.
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                  • doubledime
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 04-22-09
                    • 9751

                    #1059
                    Originally posted by Capybara
                    Thanks for all the work on this, Double D! Great effort!

                    My only question is, can you clarify the third one here for us, just out of curiosity? So you mean, if we played the LIVE OVER at the end of five innings (no matter what the books have it at for live play), and the posted live O/U was less than WHICH original total?... it went 2-0. Less than the original O/U for the game? You may have to always put EXAMPLES from now on since things are getting a little confusing in here.
                    For example, the Cubs original line before the game started was 8.5. After 5 innings, the live line was 6.5 (the score was 2,1). The final was 4,6. Winner

                    I hope that clears things up.
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                    • doubledime
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 04-22-09
                      • 9751

                      #1060
                      Originally posted by TechnicalTrader
                      BUT, but, but, but, but.... The entire league's bullpen pretty much sucked yesterday.

                      The best way to play this is probably to just take the second half before the game. I should have some time today at work and will backtest this. Obviously we will not know where the 2H total was but what I can do is list the amount of runs scored during the second half. If that number clearly averages above 3.6-3.7, then we have a system which might have legs.
                      Thanks TT for all your back testing. I will look at his in more detail throughout the day. Thanks again
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                      • doubledime
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 04-22-09
                        • 9751

                        #1061
                        Good morning,

                        Yesterday

                        Regular Plays: 4-0
                        YTD: 104-69 +25.95 units

                        Reliever Plays: 7-1-1
                        YTD 292-216

                        Back later with today's card
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                        • doubledime
                          SBR Hall of Famer
                          • 04-22-09
                          • 9751

                          #1062
                          Good morning,

                          The Reliever Plays for Monday:

                          Mia/Reds over 8.5
                          Mets/AZ over 8.5
                          Pit/SF over 7.5
                          SD/TB over 8


                          Back later with any Regular Plays

                          Good luck
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                          • TechnicalTrader
                            SBR MVP
                            • 05-09-16
                            • 1434

                            #1063
                            Originally posted by doubledime
                            Good morning,

                            The Reliever Plays for Monday:

                            Mia/Reds over 8.5
                            Mets/AZ over 8.5
                            Pit/SF over 7.5
                            SD/TB over 8


                            Back later with any Regular Plays

                            Good luck
                            Thanks, I won't be able to stay up tonight. It would be great if someone could post totals after 5.

                            Capy, I can't seem to be able to view Bookmakers 2H lines. Could you please post them? Thanks!!
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                            • doubledime
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 04-22-09
                              • 9751

                              #1064
                              Good morning,

                              No play on the one early game

                              Back later with tonight's card

                              Good lcu
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                              • TechnicalTrader
                                SBR MVP
                                • 05-09-16
                                • 1434

                                #1065
                                All 2H totals on bookmaker are either 3.5 or 4...
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                                • doubledime
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 04-22-09
                                  • 9751

                                  #1066
                                  Just looked at BM and all the Reliever Plays have a 3.5 second half total
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                                  • TechnicalTrader
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 05-09-16
                                    • 1434

                                    #1067
                                    The COL along with the TEX game is above 3.5. Sucks!
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                                    • doubledime
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 04-22-09
                                      • 9751

                                      #1068
                                      Originally posted by TechnicalTrader
                                      The COL along with the TEX game is above 3.5. Sucks!
                                      They are, but I'm just playing the Reliever Plays to go over the second half.
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                                      • TechnicalTrader
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 05-09-16
                                        • 1434

                                        #1069
                                        Gotcha
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                                        • doubledime
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 04-22-09
                                          • 9751

                                          #1070
                                          Good afternoon,

                                          No Regular Play for Monday

                                          Good luck
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                                          • doubledime
                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                            • 04-22-09
                                            • 9751

                                            #1071
                                            Good evening,

                                            For anyone playing the second half of the Reliever Plays, so far tonight both Mia/Reds game and the SD/TB game won the second half if you played it before the game or live bet it. 2-0 so far tonight. Will update the late games tomorrow.

                                            Good night
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                                            • John Deere
                                              SBR Wise Guy
                                              • 10-19-11
                                              • 581

                                              #1072
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                                              • TechnicalTrader
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 05-09-16
                                                • 1434

                                                #1073
                                                Originally posted by doubledime
                                                Good morning,

                                                The Reliever Plays for Monday:

                                                Mia/Reds over 8.5
                                                Mets/AZ over 8.5
                                                Pit/SF over 7.5
                                                SD/TB over 8


                                                Back later with any Regular Plays

                                                Good luck
                                                All four of them cashed on the second half. Looks lik eI might have to open an account at Bookmaker after all!!


                                                Great stuff DD and thanks again for the picks!
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                                                • TTA_President
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 07-14-10
                                                  • 1434

                                                  #1074
                                                  Wow
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                                                  • doubledime
                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                    • 04-22-09
                                                    • 9751

                                                    #1075
                                                    Originally posted by John Deere
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                                                    • doubledime
                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                      • 04-22-09
                                                      • 9751

                                                      #1076
                                                      Originally posted by TTA_President
                                                      Wow
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                                                      • doubledime
                                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                                        • 04-22-09
                                                        • 9751

                                                        #1077
                                                        Originally posted by TechnicalTrader
                                                        All four of them cashed on the second half. Looks lik eI might have to open an account at Bookmaker after all!!


                                                        Great stuff DD and thanks again for the picks!
                                                        Thanks TT You too had a fine night.
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                                                        • doubledime
                                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                                          • 04-22-09
                                                          • 9751

                                                          #1078
                                                          Good morning,

                                                          Yesterday

                                                          Regular Plays: No Plays
                                                          YTD: 104-69 +25.95 units

                                                          Reliever Plays: 4-0
                                                          YTD 296-216

                                                          Back later with today's card
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                                                          • doubledime
                                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                                            • 04-22-09
                                                            • 9751

                                                            #1079
                                                            Good morning,

                                                            For those following, the second half Reliever Plays played before the game went 4-0, and the second half Reliever Plays if played LIVE, if the total was less that the original total, went 2-0. If all 4 were played LIVE, they went 4-0.

                                                            DD
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                                                            • doubledime
                                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                                              • 04-22-09
                                                              • 9751

                                                              #1080
                                                              Good morning,

                                                              The Reliever Plays for Tuesday:

                                                              Mia/Reds over 8.5
                                                              Wash/Col over 11
                                                              Mets/AZ over 8
                                                              WS/Clev
                                                              under 7.5
                                                              Cards/Hou
                                                              under 8.5

                                                              Back later with the Regular Plays

                                                              Good luck
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                                                              • blackHIPPY
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 10-01-14
                                                                • 3973

                                                                #1081
                                                                sweep! thanks
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                                                                • doubledime
                                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                  • 04-22-09
                                                                  • 9751

                                                                  #1082
                                                                  Good morning,

                                                                  Needless to say we have had some good luck lately and have been on a good run. I have done this a long time and I know the "pendulum" swings back and forth. Though I am always confident in my plays, this is a game of inches and good money management is the key to success. I am not being a pessimist, but just a realist.

                                                                  Having said that, here is a quick review of the year so far:

                                                                  Total of all plays: 400-285
                                                                  Total Regular Plays: 104-69 Plus 25.95 units
                                                                  Total of Reliever Plays: 296-216 Plus 51 units based on average line of -113.5

                                                                  Total units combined: Plus 76.95 Units @ 1 unit per play, 58.4% over 685 Plays
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                                                                  • juicername
                                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                    • 10-14-15
                                                                    • 6906

                                                                    #1083
                                                                    Outstanding results with the reliever plays considering that's the only angle (?). Just goes to show how important it is to cap the bullpen as well as the starting pitcher.
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                                                                    • TechnicalTrader
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 05-09-16
                                                                      • 1434

                                                                      #1084
                                                                      Originally posted by doubledime
                                                                      Good morning,

                                                                      Needless to say we have had some good luck lately and have been on a good run. I have done this a long time and I know the "pendulum" swings back and forth. Though I am always confident in my plays, this is a game of inches and good money management is the key to success. I am not being a pessimist, but just a realist.

                                                                      Having said that, here is a quick review of the year so far:

                                                                      Total of all plays: 400-285
                                                                      Total Regular Plays: 104-69 Plus 25.95 units
                                                                      Total of Reliever Plays: 296-216 Plus 51 units based on average line of -113.5

                                                                      Total units combined: Plus 76.95 Units @ 1 unit per play, 58.4% over 685 Plays
                                                                      This is where I want my system to be!!! Great stuff and thanks again!
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                                                                      • doubledime
                                                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                        • 04-22-09
                                                                        • 9751

                                                                        #1085
                                                                        Originally posted by juicername
                                                                        Outstanding results with the reliever plays considering that's the only angle (?). Just goes to show how important it is to cap the bullpen as well as the starting pitcher.
                                                                        Thanks juice. That's what still amazes me. There are games that are a Reliever Play, but so many other traditional handicapping tools are against it, yet it still covers
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