* Totals and Sides *

**TechnicalTrader** · 08-13-16, 04:10 PM

Can somebody please track the other games in-game totals after the fifth? It'll be around 3AM over here by the time the late games hit the fifth inning.

The easiest option is to use marathonbet.com. You don't need to log in to view live lines and it is pretty easy to navigate.

Anyone??

**doubledime** · 08-13-16, 07:48 PM

The Reliever Plays for Saturday:

Cards/Cubs over 9;Total was 5 at the end of the 5th (score was 0:2) Win
Col/Philly over 7.5 Total was 7 at the end of 5th (score was 4 ,0) Win
SD/Mets over 7 Total was 3.5 at the end of the 5th (score 1,0) Win
TB/NYY over 8 Total was 12 at the end of the 5th (score was 3:6) Push
KC/Min over 9 Total was 6.5 at the end of 5th (score was 2,1) Win
LAA/Cle over 9 Total was 8.5 at the end of the 5th (score was 4,1) Loss
WS/Mia over 8.5 Total was 15.5 at the end of 5th (score was 7,5) Loss
AZ/Bost over 10 Total was 10.5 at the end of 5th (score was 4,3) Loss

**doubledime** · 08-14-16, 06:34 AM

Good morning,

Yesterday

Regular Plays: 0-2
YTD: 100-69 +21.95 units

Reliever Plays: 4-4
YTD 285-215

Back later with today's card

**doubledime** · 08-14-16, 06:42 AM

Good morning,

Two disappointing losses yesterday. Many missed scoring opportunities in the Boston game, and we had 5 runs after 2 innings in the Cleveland game and still did not go over.

As for playing the second half on the Reliever Plays, they go 4-3-1, but if one played only the games where the total was less than the original total, they go 4-1. It's only one day, but may be something to watch/play for those who have the time to do so.

DD

**TechnicalTrader** · 08-14-16, 07:16 AM

Originally posted by doubledime

Good morning,

Two disappointing losses yesterday. Many missed scoring opportunities in the Boston game, and we had 5 runs after 2 innings in the Cleveland game and still did not go over.

As for playing the second half on the Reliever Plays, they go 4-3-1, but if one played only the games where the total was less than the original total, they go 4-1. It's only one day, but may be something to watch/play for those who have the time to do so.

DD

I'll be on the early games tonight and will update with live totals, etc. This could really work. Vegas and the books don't have time for this...

**doubledime** · 08-14-16, 07:54 AM

Originally posted by TechnicalTrader

I'll be on the early games tonight and will update with live totals, etc. This could really work. Vegas and the books don't have time for this...

**doubledime** · 08-14-16, 07:57 AM

Good morning,

The Reliever Plays for Sunday:

Cards/Cubs over (no line yet)
SD/Mets over 8
Col/Philly over 9
Reds/Mil over 9.5
Pit/LAD over 8.5
LAA/Clev over 9
KC/Min over 9
WS/Mia over 7
AZ/Bost over 9

Back later with any Regular Plays

Good luck

**Capybara** · 08-14-16, 10:37 AM

Hey, since I never saw anyone post further about where to find 2H plays and what they consist of, I just looked into it a little.

Don't see them at 5Dimes but DO see them at Bookmaker, with sides and totals. Here are the rules:

MLB - Second HalfsBets are based on the score from the top of the 6th inning till the end of the game. Must be a complete game (i.e. 9 innings, or 8½ innings if the home team is ahead). Wagers include extra innings. All wagers are action, regardless of pitcher.

**SauceWagers** · 08-14-16, 10:41 AM

Originally posted by Capybara

Hey, since I never saw anyone post further about where to find 2H plays and what they consist of, I just looked into it a little.

Don't see them at 5Dimes but DO see them at Bookmaker, with sides and totals. Here are the rules:

MLB - Second HalfsBets are based on the score from the top of the 6th inning till the end of the game. Must be a complete game (i.e. 9 innings, or 8½ innings if the home team is ahead). Wagers include extra innings. All wagers are action, regardless of pitcher.

Thanks, good to know Capy. I believe what they've been doing the last couple of days is looking at the LIVE bet totals at the end of the 5th inning. Does Bookmaker have the 2H totals available before the game, or are they generated after the 5th?

**doubledime** · 08-14-16, 10:43 AM

Good morning,

The Regular Plays for Sunday:

Col/Philly over 9 -105
KC/Min over 8.5 -120
Seat/Oak over 9 -105
AZ/Bost over 9 -120

Det/TX over 9 just missed the cut

Good luck

**TechnicalTrader** · 08-14-16, 10:45 AM

Originally posted by Capybara

Hey, since I never saw anyone post further about where to find 2H plays and what they consist of, I just looked into it a little.

Don't see them at 5Dimes but DO see them at Bookmaker, with sides and totals. Here are the rules:

MLB - Second HalfsBets are based on the score from the top of the 6th inning till the end of the game. Must be a complete game (i.e. 9 innings, or 8½ innings if the home team is ahead). Wagers include extra innings. All wagers are action, regardless of pitcher.

Thanks! As expected between 3 and 3 1/2 runs. Looks like I might just have to join bookmaker!

Thanks, great work!

Here are the lines for the second half:

Cards/Cubs over 3.5 +105
SD/Mets over 3 -140
Col/Philly over 3.5 +100
Reds/Mil over 3.5 -115
Pit/LAD over 3.5 +110
LAA/Clev over 3.5 -105
KC/Min over 3.5 +100
WS/Mia over 3 +110
AZ/Bost over 3.5 -110

**doubledime** · 08-14-16, 10:46 AM

Originally posted by SauceWagers

Thanks, good to know Capy. I believe what they've been doing the last couple of days is looking at the LIVE bet totals at the end of the 5th inning. Does Bookmaker have the 2H totals available before the game, or are they generated after the 5th?

I have only seen the second half totals after the 5th is over in "live play"

**Capybara** · 08-14-16, 10:48 AM

Originally posted by SauceWagers

Thanks, good to know Capy. I believe what they've been doing the last couple of days is looking at the LIVE bet totals at the end of the 5th inning. Does Bookmaker have the 2H totals available before the game, or are they generated after the 5th?

No, I'm talking about bets available BEFORE the game. I've been a little confused with some of the recent posts, I didn't even realize they were only talking about live bets, if that was the case.

Again, on Bookmaker, you can bet 2H bets before a game in the exact same way you bet any other type of plays. They go from the 6th inning in, as the rules above state. I just looked at today's. The number for most of them for the totals is o/u 3.5, though for some it can be 3. It seems to me this would be the place to take advantage of the overs on the reliever plays, am I right?

Of course, taking advantage with live betting is also great, just harder to do.

**TechnicalTrader** · 08-14-16, 10:51 AM

Do you believe this sh!t????

(Trying to sign up at Bookmaker)

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**Capybara** · 08-14-16, 10:54 AM

Originally posted by TechnicalTrader

Do you believe this sh!t????

(Trying to sign up at Bookmaker)

Gee: Welcome to our Live Chat Department. My name is Gee. How may I be of assistance?
Gee: Hello, how are you today?
VISITOR: Hi, I'd like to sign up and take advantage of your 50% welcome bonus. Please guide me through the process. thanks
VISITOR: Doing fine, yourself??
Gee: I am fine thanks for ask.
Gee: I afraid that at this time we offer bonuses for United States and Canadian customers only.
VISITOR: No possible exceptions?
Gee: We are unable to overwrite the system.
Gee: My apologies.
VISITOR: It does not say that in the T&C's.
VISITOR: I live in Europe but hold a US passport. Would that count?

For what it's worth, TT, I don't take bonuses anyway. Fukk em, they're usually with some ridiculous rollover, like 8x or 10x or 12x. I don't feel like bothering with them, but that's just me.

**TechnicalTrader** · 08-14-16, 10:56 AM

Originally posted by Capybara

For what it's worth, TT, I don't take bonuses anyway. Fukk em, they're usually with some ridiculous rollover, like 8x or 10x or 12x. I don't feel like bothering with them, but that's just me.

YOu can roll that over so quickly though... Easy money, looking for the edge everywhere...

**doubledime** · 08-14-16, 12:04 PM

Good afternoon,

I don't like posting a lot of Regular Plays. My 4 today is more than normal, but another that just missed is Reds/Milw over 9.5. If it were 9 at -120 or less it would have been a play, but it does not look like it will reach that number. Just FYI

Good luck

**doubledime** · 08-14-16, 12:08 PM

Originally posted by TechnicalTrader

Thanks! As expected between 3 and 3 1/2 runs. Looks like I might just have to join bookmaker!

Thanks, great work!

Here are the lines for the second half:

Cards/Cubs over 3.5 +105
SD/Mets over 3 -140
Col/Philly over 3.5 +100
Reds/Mil over 3.5 -115
Pit/LAD over 3.5 +110
LAA/Clev over 3.5 -105
KC/Min over 3.5 +100
WS/Mia over 3 +110
AZ/Bost over 3.5 -110

This could get interesting

We'll know more shortly.

DD

**TechnicalTrader** · 08-14-16, 01:50 PM

It's either 3 or 3.5 pretty much on every game after 5 innings.

I took SD/NYM and CWS/MIA. COL/PHI and ARZ/BOS up next. Great call on the ARZ/BOS game. CWS/MIA looking good the Mets game will most likely not drop.

**doubledime** · 08-14-16, 01:53 PM

Originally posted by TechnicalTrader

It's either 3 or 3.5 pretty much on every game after 5 innings.

I took SD/NYM and CWS/MIA. COL/PHI and ARZ/BOS up next. Great call on the ARZ/BOS game. CWS/MIA looking good the Mets game will most likely not drop.

I saw the Mets game 3 +115 after the 5th

**TechnicalTrader** · 08-14-16, 01:58 PM

Originally posted by doubledime

I saw the Mets game 3 +115 after the 5th

At the end of the day, 4 runs is a hefty amount if you think about it. It might make more sense to play the complete opposite. Play the under when two teams which matchup, have rested pens and qualify. Thoughts?

**TechnicalTrader** · 08-14-16, 02:06 PM

Green and Bold picks are DD's!

TB/NYY O15, O4 -- Draw
HOU/TOR missed it, but was around 3.5 or 4. should win -- Win
SD/NYM O5 -- Win
CWS/MIA O8 Win
LAA/CLE, O10.5 -- Loss
ATL/WAS, O11 -- Loss
ARZ/BOS O20 -- Loss
COL/PHI O12 -- Win
CIN/MIL O10 -- Draw
KC/MIN O14 -- Win
DET/TEX, O5.5 -- Win
BAL/SF, O11.5 -- Win
SEA/OAK, O8.5 -- Win
PIT/LAD, O12 --
STL/CHC, O --

**doubledime** · 08-14-16, 02:15 PM

Originally posted by TechnicalTrader

At the end of the day, 4 runs is a hefty amount if you think about it. It might make more sense to play the complete opposite. Play the under when two teams which matchup, have rested pens and qualify. Thoughts?

If the pens are rested to my qualifications, I will post an under Reliever Play. I also take into consideration the bullpen's overall ERA when figuring the Reliever Plays. I just do not see that many WELL rested pens with a good ERA, at least IMO.

**doubledime** · 08-14-16, 02:19 PM

Originally posted by TechnicalTrader

TB/NYY O15, O4 through the 9th
ATL/WAS, O11

TB/NYY was not a Reliever Play. I wish it had been.

**TechnicalTrader** · 08-14-16, 02:35 PM

Originally posted by doubledime

TB/NYY was not a Reliever Play. I wish it had been.

Just trying to document all lines so that we can get a clear view of what lines "should" and hopefully will be.

**doubledime** · 08-14-16, 02:54 PM

Originally posted by TechnicalTrader

Just trying to document all lines so that we can get a clear view of what lines "should" and hopefully will be.

**doubledime** · 08-14-16, 03:38 PM

Originally posted by TechnicalTrader

TB/NYY O15, O4 -- Draw
HOU/TOR missed it, but was around 3.5 or 4. should win -- Win
SD/NYM O5 -- Win
CWS/MIA O8 Win
LAA/CLE, O11.5 --
ATL/WAS, O11 -- Loss
ARZ/BOS O20 -- Loss
COL/PHI O12 --
CIN/MIL O10 --
KC/MIN O14 -- Win
DET/TEX, O5.5 --

It will be interesting to see how the Reliever Plays do based on:
1. Playing the second half before the game. (the numbers you posted earlier)
2. Playing the second half based on live betting.
3. Based on live betting only games where the second half total (for the game) is less than the original total.

I hope all can follow that.

**TechnicalTrader** · 08-14-16, 04:45 PM

Originally posted by doubledime

It will be interesting to see how the Reliever Plays do based on:
1. Playing the second half before the game. (the numbers you posted earlier)
2. Playing the second half based on live betting.
3. Based on live betting only games where the second half total (for the game) is less than the original total.

I hope all can follow that.

1&2) I don't think you'll see a significant change. in other words, it would most likely make more sense to take the bet live because you will be dealing with more info: How much of the bullpen has been used? Did anyone get injured/ejected? Etc.
3) Again, I don't think the difference would be that much. In a game where both teams have already scored 6+ runs each, I could see the 2nd half total being 3.5 to 4 where if it's a low scoring game it would most likely be around 3-3.5.

I def think this is something we should be taking a closer look at. It's all about getting that edge and i think Vegas and the books could care less about it here...

**doubledime** · 08-14-16, 04:59 PM

Originally posted by TechnicalTrader

1&2) I don't think you'll see a significant change. in other words, it would most likely make more sense to take the bet live because you will be dealing with more info: How much of the bullpen has been used? Did anyone get injured/ejected? Etc.
3) Again, I don't think the difference would be that much. In a game where both teams have already scored 6+ runs each, I could see the 2nd half total being 3.5 to 4 where if it's a low scoring game it would most likely be around 3-3.5.

I def think this is something we should be taking a closer look at. It's all about getting that edge and i think Vegas and the books could care less about it here...

Heading out to get some dinner. I'll see where the Cubbies are after 5 since that's going to be late for you.

**TechnicalTrader** · 08-14-16, 05:00 PM

This is not your typical day, keep that in mind.

38 runs in 82 innings for a 4.17 ERA. The league avg is 3.88, 417 is comparable to Detroit's, which is 22nd.... But stillgreat to see your picks going 6-2-2 so far. Let's see how the last two go.

**TechnicalTrader** · 08-14-16, 05:01 PM

Originally posted by doubledime

Heading out to get some dinner. I'll see where the Cubbies are after 5 since that's going to be late for you.

Thanks, I'll have the PIT/LAD line up in a little but.

**Mike Huntertz** · 08-14-16, 05:19 PM

Pit/LAD over 3.5 -115

**Mike Huntertz** · 08-14-16, 06:49 PM

Originally posted by doubledime

Good morning,

The Regular Plays for Sunday:

Col/Philly over 9 -105
KC/Min over 8.5 -120
Seat/Oak over 9 -105
AZ/Bost over 9 -120

Det/TX over 9 just missed the cut

Good luck

Not a bad day DD, not bad at all! :-)

**doubledime** · 08-14-16, 08:34 PM

Originally posted by Mike Huntertz

Not a bad day DD, not bad at all! :-)

Thank you

**doubledime** · 08-14-16, 08:38 PM

Originally posted by TechnicalTrader

Green and Bold picks are DD's!

TB/NYY O15, O4 -- Draw
HOU/TOR missed it, but was around 3.5 or 4. should win -- Win
SD/NYM O5 -- Win
CWS/MIA O8 Win
LAA/CLE, O10.5 -- Loss
ATL/WAS, O11 -- Loss
ARZ/BOS O20 -- Loss
COL/PHI O12 -- Win
CIN/MIL O10 -- Draw
KC/MIN O14 -- Win
DET/TEX, O5.5 -- Win
BAL/SF, O11.5 -- Win
SEA/OAK, O8.5 -- Win
PIT/LAD, O12 --
STL/CHC, O --

Green and Bold picks are DD's!

TB/NYY O15, O4 -- Draw
HOU/TOR missed it, but was around 3.5 or 4. should win -- Win
SD/NYM O5 -- Win
CWS/MIA O8 Win
LAA/CLE, O10.5 -- Loss
ATL/WAS, O11 -- Loss
ARZ/BOS O20 -- Loss
COL/PHI O12 -- Win
CIN/MIL O10 -- Draw
KC/MIN O14 -- Win
DET/TEX, O5.5 -- Win
BAL/SF, O11.5 -- Win
SEA/OAK, O8.5 -- Win
PIT/LAD, O12 -- Draw
STL/CHC, O 5.5 Win

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