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  • kotzwell88
    SBR High Roller
    • 05-18-09
    • 170

    #141
    does it say which are the best of the picks or just which to play???
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    • kotzwell88
      SBR High Roller
      • 05-18-09
      • 170

      #142
      dont mean to ask if it is a problem?
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      • Formulawiz
        Restricted User
        • 01-12-09
        • 1589

        #143
        Originally posted by kotzwell88
        does it say which are the best of the picks or just which to play???
        I am not sure what you are referring to. If its the PR picks you have to subtract both pitcher PR's and then there has to be a 20 point diff. If your talking about the software, it make plays for you and some of the plays are best bets.
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        • hajune
          SBR High Roller
          • 09-04-07
          • 219

          #144
          Sportstrends software using the pyththerom is a delite to use. Baseball is an unique sport. 9 players but 70% depends on pitching. You can not handicap baseball like other sports. I am gifted at handicapping basketball and football but the methods used can not be pluged into baseball. Sporttrends software does what I could not do. I am not quite sure why he only charges $50 for it. It gets 100 units above or around there every year. It is kicking butt again. I think though, you can's start it until middle May or at the earliest May 1st. I never had any success early on. too much to know. Teams like Tampa Bay last year went from last to first. you have to let the season unfold before you can tell who is who and what is what.
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          • Formulawiz
            Restricted User
            • 01-12-09
            • 1589

            #145
            Here is a great example tonight going opposite the PT play and using your head. BOS/NYM game. NYM opens at -140 and one hour or so prior to start of game BOS is now -120. That is a 60 cent movement. I dont know about you guys but that is a hugh movement. This shows you how really stupid the public is. The bookies were licking their chops. How can you not take NYM with Santana one of the best pitchers in the majors and getting + 110. If you did not load up on the NYM I dont know what to tell you. This is one of the best plays of the year.
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            • peterpan19
              Restricted User
              • 11-02-08
              • 3377

              #146
              PR went 2-2 with a small profit, run went 1-1 with a small profit....
              YTD (PR): 12-21 -6.45
              YTD (run): 2-3 -0.75

              todays plays:
              PR:
              HOU (play...)
              CWS (maybe..)
              BOS (no play...)

              run:
              TX, DET, NYM...only NYM are road dogs

              GL
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              • Formulawiz
                Restricted User
                • 01-12-09
                • 1589

                #147
                I had to give you guys an update on sportrends software Best Bets since May 15th when I first started.

                YTD 16-4 80% and + 11.5 units
                Pythag Thrm is way up there too I would have to go back and check. Last night it went 5-3 with a small profit.
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                • twister
                  SBR Sharp
                  • 09-09-08
                  • 405

                  #148
                  Originally posted by hajune
                  Sportstrends software using the pyththerom is a delite to use. Baseball is an unique sport. 9 players but 70% depends on pitching. You can not handicap baseball like other sports. I am gifted at handicapping basketball and football but the methods used can not be pluged into baseball. Sporttrends software does what I could not do. I am not quite sure why he only charges $50 for it. It gets 100 units above or around there every year. It is kicking butt again. I think though, you can's start it until middle May or at the earliest May 1st. I never had any success early on. too much to know. Teams like Tampa Bay last year went from last to first. you have to let the season unfold before you can tell who is who and what is what.
                  I've never used this software, so I cannot say conclusively, but I imagine that if the software is as good [and steady] as you say and regularly churns out 100 units a year, then the software creator doesn't NEED to charge big money for the software; he is making money from the books.

                  Think about this:

                  $20,000 starting bank. Flat risking 1% of your starting bank on each bet. $200 units. 100 units won, thus $20,000 won. You have doubled your bankroll.

                  If you continue at this rate, doubling your bankroll each year, it takes [20k,40k,80k,160k,320k,640k,1.28m] 7 years to become a millionaire with a 20k starting bank. Seeing as this software has been around for quite a number of years [forumla wiz says he has been using it for over a decade if I recall correctly], than in theory, the guy that is selling/created this software should be a multi-millionaire by now.

                  Ofcourse, this is assuming he had books with limits of $7000 or more [like Pinnacle etc] to make such bets, and he had the foresight to add his end-of-season profits into the following seasons starting bank.
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                  • Formulawiz
                    Restricted User
                    • 01-12-09
                    • 1589

                    #149
                    Originally posted by twister
                    I've never used this software, so I cannot say conclusively, but I imagine that if the software is as good [and steady] as you say and regularly churns out 100 units a year, then the software creator doesn't NEED to charge big money for the software; he is making money from the books.

                    Think about this:

                    $20,000 starting bank. Flat risking 1% of your starting bank on each bet. $200 units. 100 units won, thus $20,000 won. You have doubled your bankroll.

                    If you continue at this rate, doubling your bankroll each year, it takes [20k,40k,80k,160k,320k,640k,1.28m] 7 years to become a millionaire with a 20k starting bank. Seeing as this software has been around for quite a number of years [forumla wiz says he has been using it for over a decade if I recall correctly], than in theory, the guy that is selling/created this software should be a multi-millionaire by now.

                    Ofcourse, this is assuming he had books with limits of $7000 or more [like Pinnacle etc] to make such bets, and he had the foresight to add his end-of-season profits into the following seasons starting bank.
                    Twister I would agree with your assumptions. I dont see why sportrends has to sell their software for more then $50. I am sure they have a large following being around since late 1980's and I would assume they do well by selling the software in quantity. One thing I would like to point out we all know that most people are not comfortable wagering on baseball because they dont understand it. I find baseball to be the easiest sport to beat the bookies at and I do much better in baseball then in any sport because there is no line.
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                    • peterpan19
                      Restricted User
                      • 11-02-08
                      • 3377

                      #150
                      twister
                      think about if you would bet 1% of your bankroll each time...like if you win your first bet you have $20,200 so now you would bet $202...I think you would be up even more that way...
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                      • peterpan19
                        Restricted User
                        • 11-02-08
                        • 3377

                        #151
                        YTD (PR): 12-22 -7.45
                        YTD (run):3-3 0.95 (nice win on the Mets)

                        todays picks:
                        PR:
                        PHI
                        TOR
                        BAL
                        PIT
                        ARZ
                        SD
                        LAA
                        MIN

                        run:
                        CIN, CWS, KC, CHC, SEA, LAD, MIL....but only MIL, KC and CHC are on the road...

                        GL
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                        • Formulawiz
                          Restricted User
                          • 01-12-09
                          • 1589

                          #152
                          Another unbelievable day again. I went 5-0.
                          Sportrends Best Bets 1-0, YTD 17-4, 81%, +12.5 units
                          Pythag Therm went 6-3 yesterday and YTD I dont know but well over 65%

                          For those of you using the software let me explain my reasoning for why I dropped 4 games yesterday. I think you can easily figure them out without mentioning teams. I believe this can improve your win/loss records substantially.
                          First game team was on a 7 game winning streak bound to reverse
                          Second game New pitcher Vs a good pitcher
                          Third game team Off a loss and line way too high over -200
                          Fourth Game Team on a 7 game winning streak bound to reverse
                          Dropping these games saved me a 1-3 record. Again I stress, some common sense should be used when you analyze each game.
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                          • hajune
                            SBR High Roller
                            • 09-04-07
                            • 219

                            #153
                            Thought I would weigh my 2 cents worth in. The sportrends software has data from past years also. You can easlily see it wins year after year. I do not think though playing it before May is a good thing. Pitchers and teams need to establish a rhythm. Also I wait 5 days after the All Star game. Too many days off between games. Also the last 2 games of the season are not good to play. I still do not know why he charges only $50 for it. When something is that good $200 is a bargain. I am not sure if any handicappers hit 100+ units a year as this seems to average. What is so good about it is that it tells you the plays. Just read it off the each game and it says if it is a play or not. You do not have to think beyond that . Nice that something is out there that works as claimed. in fact it works better. Formulawiz is a smart guy. He finds something that works and sticks with it. Nice of him to share with everybody.
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                            • Formulawiz
                              Restricted User
                              • 01-12-09
                              • 1589

                              #154
                              For those of you following sportrends software, BB went 0-1 and 1 game dropped out due to high ML. Yesterday PT had a miserable day. Since 5/1 which is 25 days ago I believe 3 bad days is still pretty damn good.

                              As far as other plays Peter will continue with his w/l records.
                              Keep up the good work.
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                              • peterpan19
                                Restricted User
                                • 11-02-08
                                • 3377

                                #155
                                PR went 4-3 +2.95 units
                                YTD (PR): 16-25 -4.5 (its getting better everyday now)
                                run went 1-1 +0.4
                                YTD (run): 4-4 +1.35

                                todays PR plays are:
                                CIN
                                BAL
                                NYY
                                BOS
                                OAK
                                SF
                                PHI

                                run plays: NYY, KC, MIN, ARZ, PIT...only road teams are NYY and PIT

                                GL
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                                • madness
                                  SBR Rookie
                                  • 05-25-09
                                  • 28

                                  #156
                                  Originally posted by Formulawiz
                                  For those of you following sportrends software, BB went 0-1 and 1 game dropped out due to high ML. Yesterday PT had a miserable day. Since 5/1 which is 25 days ago I believe 3 bad days is still pretty damn good.

                                  As far as other plays Peter will continue with his w/l records.
                                  Keep up the good work.
                                  Hey Formula,

                                  I did purchase their software and see the pythagrium stuff, but not sure how to determine best bets? I can email them, but thought you may be able to point me in the right direction.

                                  madness
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                                  • peterpan19
                                    Restricted User
                                    • 11-02-08
                                    • 3377

                                    #157
                                    madness
                                    on the screen you see the plays...when its a best bet it will say not only play team A and Pitcher B but also that it is a best bet

                                    hope that helps
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                                    • madness
                                      SBR Rookie
                                      • 05-25-09
                                      • 28

                                      #158
                                      thanks peterpan...i dont know how i missed it the first time thru. Only other question is the program gives you the option for last 30 games or full season of stats for making the predictions. Not sure if you can comment on what has produced best results. I apologize if this is duplication of material.

                                      thanks!
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                                      • Bobby518
                                        SBR Hustler
                                        • 01-24-09
                                        • 84

                                        #159
                                        Originally posted by Formulawiz
                                        For those of you following sportrends software, BB went 0-1 and 1 game dropped out due to high ML. Yesterday PT had a miserable day. Since 5/1 which is 25 days ago I believe 3 bad days is still pretty damn good.

                                        As far as other plays Peter will continue with his w/l records.
                                        Keep up the good work.
                                        The software has been rotten the last 3 days . . . .

                                        (Friday was 8 - 4, though . . .)
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                                        • Formulawiz
                                          Restricted User
                                          • 01-12-09
                                          • 1589

                                          #160
                                          Originally posted by Bobby518
                                          The software has been rotten the last 3 days . . . .

                                          (Friday was 8 - 4, though . . .)

                                          Bobby, I dont know what your looking at but I think 3-2 the last 3 days for Best Bets is not bad and I think 17-5 since 5/15 in your terms is even more rotten. If your referring to the PT system then this is a system that I have never used so its untested. I started looking at it since 5/1. If you go back to 5/1 give us a win/loss record for the PT system and drop any game above -175 which should not be played anyway. Lets see how rotten the system really is. When I said I never had a losing season for the past 10 years or so I was referring to the best bets. Look there is nothing around that can win at a 100% pace. Your obviously going to have some ugly days, thats the nature of the beast.
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                                          • rpbrownie
                                            SBR Hustler
                                            • 04-14-09
                                            • 64

                                            #161
                                            So you just purchase the Fastball Baseball Software for 49.95? Not the the Monthly Premium selections? Correct? Thanks for the info on the post guys.
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                                            • peterpan19
                                              Restricted User
                                              • 11-02-08
                                              • 3377

                                              #162
                                              PR went 5-1 +4.1 units
                                              run went 2-0 +2.35 units

                                              YTD (PR): 21-26 -0.4
                                              YTD (run): 6-4 +3.7

                                              todays plays PR:
                                              CLE
                                              PHI
                                              MIL
                                              NYY
                                              PIT
                                              DET
                                              BOS
                                              CWS

                                              run: TB, STL, TX, KC, BOS...TB, STL and BOS are road teams

                                              GL
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                                              • Formulawiz
                                                Restricted User
                                                • 01-12-09
                                                • 1589

                                                #163
                                                Originally posted by peterpan19
                                                PR went 5-1 +4.1 units
                                                run went 2-0 +2.35 units

                                                YTD (PR): 21-26 -0.4
                                                YTD (run): 6-4 +3.7

                                                todays plays PR:
                                                CLE
                                                PHI
                                                MIL
                                                NYY
                                                PIT
                                                DET
                                                BOS
                                                CWS

                                                run: TB, STL, TX, KC, BOS...TB, STL and BOS are road teams

                                                GL

                                                Peter,
                                                I was just thinking how far ahead financially would we be since 5/1, if we were using the current PR system. If it were not for the jackass at sportrends who wrote the description up backwards relating to the current PR system on their website we would be killing them. I was wondering what the record would actually be if we started on 5/1. We would be rich. Can you verify. I just seem to remember the win/loss record and units were horrible back then when we started on 5/1. I believe it was something like 12-25
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                                                • peterpan19
                                                  Restricted User
                                                  • 11-02-08
                                                  • 3377

                                                  #164
                                                  formulawiz

                                                  12-26...at least thats what my excelsheet says...but I also have to say that a lot of plays were filtered bc they were over -130 using the old wrong system....so to have an accurate record I would have to go back in this thread here and check all my posts from May 1st to May 13th again...if I have time I will do it later on...but even w/o I think we can say it was pretty good...

                                                  anyway we are almost back even right now...and if the trend continues we could have another great day today...

                                                  GL
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                                                  • mantorras77
                                                    SBR Sharp
                                                    • 05-08-09
                                                    • 378

                                                    #165
                                                    Originally posted by Formulawiz
                                                    Bobby, I dont know what your looking at but I think 3-2 the last 3 days for Best Bets is not bad and I think 17-5 since 5/15 in your terms is even more rotten. If your referring to the PT system then this is a system that I have never used so its untested. I started looking at it since 5/1. If you go back to 5/1 give us a win/loss record for the PT system and drop any game above -175 which should not be played anyway. Lets see how rotten the system really is. When I said I never had a losing season for the past 10 years or so I was referring to the best bets. Look there is nothing around that can win at a 100% pace. Your obviously going to have some ugly days, thats the nature of the beast.
                                                    Hey Wiz....how you getting 3-2 last 3 days for BB's??? I'm coming up with 1-3:

                                                    5/23 1-0 STL
                                                    5/24 0-1 DET
                                                    5/25 0-2 MIN, LAA

                                                    Also, I'm getting 14-7 +531 since 5/15 using the default 30 days stats...

                                                    Interesting note though.....i'm getting 17-6 +918 since 5/15 using the YTD (99) stats....
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                                                    • peterpan19
                                                      Restricted User
                                                      • 11-02-08
                                                      • 3377

                                                      #166
                                                      ok I just went over it again and looked at all my post here from May 1st to May 14th

                                                      the record would be 45-35 (56.25%) +17.45 units using the new and correct system...so not too bad I guess
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                                                      • Formulawiz
                                                        Restricted User
                                                        • 01-12-09
                                                        • 1589

                                                        #167
                                                        Originally posted by peterpan19
                                                        formulawiz

                                                        12-26...at least thats what my excelsheet says...but I also have to say that a lot of plays were filtered bc they were over -130 using the old wrong system....so to have an accurate record I would have to go back in this thread here and check all my posts from May 1st to May 13th again...if I have time I will do it later on...but even w/o I think we can say it was pretty good...

                                                        anyway we are almost back even right now...and if the trend continues we could have another great day today...

                                                        GL
                                                        I personally think filtering out plays over -130 is too low. I think
                                                        -150 to -160 would be fine.
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                                                        • Formulawiz
                                                          Restricted User
                                                          • 01-12-09
                                                          • 1589

                                                          #168
                                                          Originally posted by mantorras77
                                                          Hey Wiz....how you getting 3-2 last 3 days for BB's??? I'm coming up with 1-3:

                                                          5/23 1-0 STL
                                                          5/24 0-1 DET
                                                          5/25 0-2 MIN, LAA

                                                          Also, I'm getting 14-7 +531 since 5/15 using the default 30 days stats...

                                                          Interesting note though.....i'm getting 17-6 +918 since 5/15 using the YTD (99) stats....
                                                          Your YTD is correct, but since 5-21 1-1, 5/22 1-0, 5/23 1-0, 5/24 0-1 and yesterday 0-2
                                                          thats 3-4. I was not counting yesterday so I had 3-2

                                                          did you go back to PT plays since 5/1
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                                                          • caracalla
                                                            Restricted User
                                                            • 11-12-05
                                                            • 2549

                                                            #169
                                                            Originally posted by Formulawiz
                                                            Your YTD is correct, but since 5-21 1-1, 5/22 1-0, 5/23 1-0, 5/24 0-1 and yesterday 0-2
                                                            thats 3-4. I was not counting yesterday so I had 3-2

                                                            did you go back to PT plays since 5/1
                                                            Why not counting yesterday? Reason?
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                                                            • Formulawiz
                                                              Restricted User
                                                              • 01-12-09
                                                              • 1589

                                                              #170
                                                              Originally posted by caracalla
                                                              Why not counting yesterday? Reason?
                                                              Because I believe the games were not over when the post was made
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                                                              • rpbrownie
                                                                SBR Hustler
                                                                • 04-14-09
                                                                • 64

                                                                #171
                                                                Originally posted by Formulawiz
                                                                I had to give you guys an update on sportrends software Best Bets since May 15th when I first started.

                                                                YTD 16-4 80% and + 11.5 units
                                                                Pythag Thrm is way up there too I would have to go back and check. Last night it went 5-3 with a small profit.
                                                                Formulawiz,

                                                                Are you using the Fastball Program to get the best bets that you will not post? And this is different than the software picks Peterpan is posting?

                                                                I just want to get it right because it seems worth the $50 to give it a shot.
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                                                                • caracalla
                                                                  Restricted User
                                                                  • 11-12-05
                                                                  • 2549

                                                                  #172
                                                                  Originally posted by Formulawiz
                                                                  Because I believe the games were not over when the post was made
                                                                  So for stats you have to count yesterday 0-2
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                                                                  • facasto
                                                                    SBR High Roller
                                                                    • 12-23-06
                                                                    • 170

                                                                    #173
                                                                    I'm confused...
                                                                    What is the REAL REAL REAL record for BestBet from software?
                                                                    No filter, no personal reason, etc etc.... only software result!
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                                                                    • facasto
                                                                      SBR High Roller
                                                                      • 12-23-06
                                                                      • 170

                                                                      #174
                                                                      Originally posted by peterpan19
                                                                      ok I just went over it again and looked at all my post here from May 1st to May 14th

                                                                      the record would be 45-35 (56.25%) +17.45 units using the new and correct system...so not too bad I guess
                                                                      I have lots of stats that, from 2/3/4...../30 days/months/years ago are profitable.
                                                                      Problem is.... from now on?
                                                                      Since this thread started, you changes YTD results several times...
                                                                      Everyone is able to have ++++ results..... after.

                                                                      OK you are studiyng method, but, please, you can start YTD results only when you decide right method, opening a new thread
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                                                                      • Xpertcapper
                                                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                                                        • 04-14-09
                                                                        • 621

                                                                        #175
                                                                        Formula i purchased the fastball baseball from sportrends to try it out but have no idea how to use or download what i purchased. Can you help?
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