Multiple MLB Chase Systems (+250 units in 2012)

[TheDarkKnight01]

Recap of 6/2/13

4 game chase play:
#199: Angels -270 (3259/1207) for Game 3 Loser
#201: Phillies -178 (1901/1068) for Game 3 Winner
#205: Mets -200 (1696/848) for Game 3 Loser
#211: Reds -125 (125/100) for Game 1 Loser
#212: White Sox -105 (105/100) for Game 1 Loser
#213: Mets -200 (200/100) for Game 1 Loser
#214: Phillies -178 (178/100) for Game 1 Winner
#215: Mariners +1.5 -160 (160/100) for Game 1 Loser
#216: Mets -200 (200/100) for Game 1 Loser
#217: Phillies -178 (178/100) for Game 1 Winner

YTD: 197-5 -2644
Game 1: 127 (#181 pending)
Game 2: 47 (#176, #177, #178, #183, #191, #211, #212, #213, #215, #216 pending)
Game 3: 16 (#186 pending)
Game 4: 7 (#146, #199, #205 pending)
Losses: 5

Series Chase Plays:
#53: Angels -270 (3259/1207) for Game 3 Loser
#55: Pirates +110 (454/499) for Game 3 Winner

YTD: 56-1 +5553
Game 1: 42 (#44 pending)
Game 2: 10
Game 3: 4
Game 4: 0 (#53 pending)
Losses: 1

[TheDarkKnight01]

Plays for 6/3/13

4 game chase play:
#199: Angels -1.5 + Miami Heat ML Parlay +180 (2481/4466) for Game 4
#212: White Sox -105 (216/205) for Game 2
#218: Yankees -115 (115/100) for Game 1

YTD: 197-5 -2644
Game 1: 127 (#181 pending)
Game 2: 47 (#176, #177, #178, #183, #191, #211, #212, #213, #215, #216 pending)
Game 3: 16 (#186 pending)
Game 4: 7 (#146, #199, #205 pending)
Losses: 5

Series Chase Plays:
#53: Angels -1.5 + Miami Heat ML Parlay +180 (2481/4466) for Game 4
#44: Cardinals -160 (160/100) for Game 1
#60: Cardinals -160 (160/100) for Game 1
#61: Yankees -115 (115/100) for Game 1

YTD: 56-1 +5553
Game 1: 42 (#44 pending)
Game 2: 10
Game 3: 4
Game 4: 0 (#53 pending)
Losses: 1

[TheDarkKnight01]

Thanks for the suggestions and I'm truly sorry if you tailed and lost $$ on those ridiculously expensive chases. I'm going to take your advice and make some tweaks. Going forward, I will either play them on the -1.5 or not at all and I will start with the Game 4's today.

I may consider playing on or against Astros and Marlins going forward but I will evaluate the chase on a case by case basis. The lines are ridiculously inflated.

Feel feel to drop a comment on anything else that would be beneficial, I am listening...

Really hoping to get back on track.

good luck

[groovybrandone]

brave play to go heat! those have been too close to add the risk

[kcava]

I think the betting concept of "the NBA won't let the heat lose at home" is a little shaky to be parlaying... but that's just me. Good luck, gentlemen...

[dalogester]

Cava, do you follow the NBA year in and year out? Have to look outside the box here its not about them winning at home. It's them making the NBA finals.. have faith ill never post again if they lose.

[samrock67]

I think the betting concept of "the NBA won't let the heat lose at home" is a little shaky to be parlaying... but that's just me. Good luck, gentlemen...

Stern's got this game rigged for the Heat, there will be no denying it. I'd give the Pacers a legitimate shot in this game if the NBA wasn't rigged. Heat on the ML tonight is a complete, no-hesitation lock.

[hubbard689]

No doubt in my mind LeBron/Stern get the Heat to the finals, but hesistant about LAA -1.5..... Still have 90 units left in the 'roll [somehow] after this disastrous weekend so might just bail on the game 4s and "start fresh" in a sense.. Can't wait to hear the tweaks to the system TDK, definitely think huge favs could be played -1.5 for a start. Cause game 4 losses shouldn't absolutely cripple us like that..

Just wondering, if you have record of this, in the past seasons you've tracked how many losses in each system occurred over each season? Are we behind or ahead of pace in terms of losses? I mean like game 4 losses not overall units, assume this is definitely the worst start for that but just cause of brutal luck with huge favs.

Still with ya bud keep up the good work and let's win it back!

[skyscrapers]

I've passed on the game 4s but will continue with all the other chases. Good luck on those on LAA -1.5 but this garbage team just can't score with their lives depended on it for some bizarre reason so maybe consider taking the -1 just to buy a little insurance on the push. You are still getting + odds on it.

Really hate the Heat personally but the Heat is the play like you guys are saying. NBA & ABC needs the Heat in the finals. They don't want two small-market teams to make it to the end. Not good for viewership and advertisement dollars.

[skyscrapers]

No doubt in my mind LeBron/Stern get the Heat to the finals, but hesistant about LAA -1.5..... Still have 90 units left in the 'roll [somehow] after this disastrous weekend so might just bail on the game 4s and "start fresh" in a sense.. Can't wait to hear the tweaks to the system TDK, definitely think huge favs could be played -1.5 for a start. Cause game 4 losses shouldn't absolutely cripple us like that..

Still with ya bud keep up the good work and let's win it back!

You hit it right on the nail Hubbard. In any kind of system, a series loss should never ever have come close to such devastation.

[kcava]

I just can't buy into all of the "conspiracy" hype... not when my gambling dollars depend on it. Rule 1 of sports betting is to avoid parlays. Angels are getting + odds without attaching the heat... "conspiracy" theories should only go but so far. What if the Heat can't buy a basket and the Pacers hit perimeter shots? I don't know. This is one of those situations where if the heat wins everyone will say "Told ya" and if the Heat lose I'll feel bad that you guys lost money... which sucks because I love you guys mannnnnnn... so it's a lose-lose for me. :P

[dalogester]

walk off 3 run homer only shot here Hope you guys took Heat M/L to minimize this loss..

[kcava]

Super rough. I wasn't following this system to a "T" but I feel for all you guys.

[Poison-Nut]

New filter TDK, never pick the F-ing Angels ever again this whole season. That team is garbage.

[808bases]

New filter TDK, never pick the F-ing Angels ever again this whole season. That team is garbage.

Amen to that they cost us bundle$ this year.

[chound]

Would it be possible for you to let us know if your fading a team or playing them in your posts. I like playing favs on the RL and dogs on the ML but I don't like guessing what the next play is like shamrock does if it's a 1 run win or loss. I'd rather base my results on actual chase plays. I'm not trying to cause you more work because I'm well aware of the effort it takes to do what you do.

[TheDarkKnight01]

Recap of 6/3/13

4 game chase play:
#199: Angels -1.5 + Miami Heat ML Parlay +180 (2481/4466) for Game 4 Loser (-6847)
#212: White Sox -105 (216/205) for Game 2 Loser
#218: Yankees -115 (115/100) for Game 1 Winner

YTD: 198-6 -9391
Game 1: 128 (#181 pending)
Game 2: 47 (#176, #177, #178, #183, #191, #211, #213, #215, #216 pending)
Game 3: 16 (#186, #212 pending)
Game 4: 7 (#146, #205 pending)
Losses: 6

Series Chase Plays:
#53: Angels -1.5 + Miami Heat ML Parlay +180 (2481/4466) for Game 4 Loser (-6847)
#44: Cardinals -160 (160/100) for Game 1 Winner
#60: Cardinals -160 (160/100) for Game 1 Winner
#61: Yankees -115 (115/100) for Game 1 Winner

YTD: 59-2 -994
Game 1: 45
Game 2: 10
Game 3: 4
Game 4: 1
Losses: 1

[TheDarkKnight01]

Plays for 6/4/13

4 game chase play:
#181: Angels -1.5 (100/115) for Game 1
#183: Royals -136 (299/220) for Game 2
#186: Nationals -1.5 +120 (1547/1856) for Game 3
#212: White Sox +1.5 -165 (695/421) for Game 3
#219: Orioles -1.5 -115 (115/100) for Game 1
#220: Royals -136 (136/100) for Game 1
#221: White Sox +1.5 -165 (165/100) for Game 1

YTD: 198-6 -9391
Game 1: 128 (#181 pending)
Game 2: 47 (#176, #177, #178, #183, #191, #211, #213, #215, #216 pending)
Game 3: 16 (#186, #212 pending)
Game 4: 7 (#146, #205 pending)
Losses: 6

Series Chase Plays:
#62: Cardinals -155 (155/100) for Game 1
#63: Cardinals -155 (155/100) for Game 1
#64: Orioles -1.5 -115 (115/100) for Game 1

YTD: 59-2 -994
Game 1: 45
Game 2: 10
Game 3: 4
Game 4: 1
Losses: 1

[chound]

I guess your either to ignorant to respond or to concerned maybe someone can help minimize some of the loss by making sure backtesting and chasing correctly may help this system.....it's the second time I asked the question and you ignored it both times so have fun with your 250+ so called or expected profit season

[kcava]

I guess your either to ignorant to respond or to concerned maybe someone can help minimize some of the loss by making sure backtesting and chasing correctly may help this system.....it's the second time I asked the question and you ignored it both times so have fun with your 250+ so called or expected profit season

On 5/24/2013 he went damn near 95% on one night, cleared every chase, and was +5000 in on system and +4000 on another. On 6/4/2013 he's now down -9300 on one and -1000 on another. I'm sure it's not a personal sight to you that he's not responding.

[Wallco99]

Would it be possible for you to let us know if your fading a team or playing them in your posts. I like playing favs on the RL and dogs on the ML but I don't like guessing what the next play is like shamrock does if it's a 1 run win or loss. I'd rather base my results on actual chase plays. I'm not trying to cause you more work because I'm well aware of the effort it takes to do what you do.

Yes, this is not that much to ask. Especially since so many people are being crippled following blindly with no clue of the plays, or why you stop series and restart them. Combined with picking and choosing series to play/stop, and moving units around to other chases constantly, it's starting to sound less like a system, and more like hunch gambling. I think it's safe to post your criteria now, no one is stealing this one. Fortunately Samrock came up with his little twist on this massacre, because the -1 1/2 plays are doing fine.

[kcava]

I like two things about the discovered -1.5 RL system.

a) Your losses are consistent. Lost 4 game chase = 15 units. (I remove chases where the -1.5 is a favorite since that will lead to inconsistent lost chases)

b) Because every bet is an "underdog" bet, a 4th game WIN nets you more profit than just a 1st game WIN. Rewarding you the more you put up.

[samrock67]

I like two things about the discovered -1.5 RL system.

a) Your losses are consistent. Lost 4 game chase = 15 units. (I remove chases where the -1.5 is a favorite since that will lead to inconsistent lost chases)

b) Because every bet is an "underdog" bet, a 4th game WIN nets you more profit than just a 1st game WIN. Rewarding you the more you put up.

A large part of the reason I developed the system was that I would know exactly how much I would lose on a series. The only question mark would be if the wins would outpace the inevitable larger number of losses, and so far they have. As for your 2nd point- Game 4 wins are responsible for just under 50% of the system's profits since the beginning of the season.

[kcava]

A large part of the reason I developed the system was that I would know exactly how much I would lose on a series. The only question mark would be if the wins would outpace the inevitable larger number of losses, and so far they have. As for your 2nd point- Game 4 wins are responsible for just under 50% of the system's profits since the beginning of the season.

Yea. The point I was making was that you get more for your gambling dollar when you when a 4th game instead of a 1st game.

Example: +150
1st Game: Bet 1.00 to win 1.50 (+1.50 units)
2nd Game: Bet 2.00 to win 3.00 (+2.00 units, covering the 1.00 loss in A bet)
3rd Game: Bet 4.00 to win 6.00 (+3.00 units, covering the 3.00 loss in A+B bet)
4th Game: Bet 8.00 to win 12.00 (+6.00 units, covering the 6.00 loss in A+B+C)

So it's nice the more we lay out, the greater the reward.

[TheDarkKnight01]

Not that I care if you follow or not but here's your answer.

#181: Angels -1.5 (100/115) for Game 1 [Cubs road fade]
#183: Royals -136 (299/220) for Game 2 [KC home win if favorites]
#186: Nationals -1.5 +120 (1547/1856) for Game 3 [Mets road fade if dogs]
#212: White Sox +1.5 -165 (695/421) for Game 3 [White Sox road win]
#219: Orioles -1.5 -115 (115/100) for Game 1 [Orioles road fave win]
#220: Royals -136 (136/100) for Game 1 [KC home win]
#221: White Sox +1.5 -165 (165/100) for Game 1 [Seattle home fade]

[chound]

Not that I care if you follow or not but here's your answer.

#181: Angels -1.5 (100/115) for Game 1 [Cubs road fade]
#183: Royals -136 (299/220) for Game 2 [KC home win if favorites]
#186: Nationals -1.5 +120 (1547/1856) for Game 3 [Mets road fade if dogs]
#212: White Sox +1.5 -165 (695/421) for Game 3 [White Sox road win]
#219: Orioles -1.5 -115 (115/100) for Game 1 [Orioles road fave win]
#220: Royals -136 (136/100) for Game 1 [KC home win]
#221: White Sox +1.5 -165 (165/100) for Game 1 [Seattle home fade]

Your right, you shouldn't care if people follow. With that being said I do think what you've done is remarkable but just following blindly is incredibly stupid. I'm glad to see you adding parameters to certain chases with the -1.5 RL....I did also like the fact of you moving units around...I do the same thing all the time...I just divide them equally between all active chases

[Tomfoolery]

TheDarkKnight has always conducted himself like a professional and a gentleman. I think one is getting out of line if they start resorting to insults. Lets take a look at the plays, ask questions, evaluate and make sound decisions. Lets put our energy into making our money. I am with you TDK .

[TheDarkKnight01]

Absolutely right Tomfoolery, I apologize if I sounded angry when replying. It's been an extremely frustrating week but that shouldn't be an excuse to display attitude in any way towards members of the forum, especially when they are trying to help.

If anyone's curious, here's a response to a question that was asked in a different forum that I post regarding losses and units:

Thanks guys, appreciate the support.

Lots of pending plays, let's start clearing these suckers out!


It would be nice if we can get back on a roll, It seems like it's been forever since that happened, I forgot how it felt like...


System has never been in such a huge loss before. In 2011 there were a couple early losers in may but i think it was only down like 50 units at that time.


It's not the losses that I have a problem with, we're hitting over 97% on the 4 game chases. It's just the amount of juice related to the losses that's ridiculous.


Same with the Series Chases, a loss should never exceed 50 units. I will do my best to limit the juice by playing the -1.5 more often on huge favorites starting with tonight.


good luck

[Poison-Nut]

I am capped out gents. It seems like we can't buy a win anymore. It's been a pleasure TDK, but I have no more juice in the bank to catch back up with all these game 3's and 4's.

I might just start with 1 chase at game 1 and see if my bankroll grows from there.

[skyscrapers]

Ya, I just don't have a clue what the fuk went wrong with this system (or baseball in general). It was chugging along nicely and then all hell broke loose. We can't even buy a win anymore. I didn't play the Angels today but this garbage team continues to fuk with this system. I'm clueless...We play the moneyline they lose straight-up...play the run-line they win by 1...I'm gonna guess if we play +1.5 they are gonna lose by 2...trust me...

[sausageman13]

Here's my system....just don't play the Angels period the rest of the year regardless of ML, RL or whatever. Too much other action out there to have to sweat this team anymore. Save your $$$ for other plays.

[chound]

TheDarkKnight has always conducted himself like a professional and a gentleman. I think one is getting out of line if they start resorting to insults. Lets take a look at the plays, ask questions, evaluate and make sound decisions. Lets put our energy into making our money. I am with you TDK .

Your correct Tom, maybe I was a little rude because I had asked the same question twice with it being ingored both times. I wasn't trying to mimic his system I just wanted to make sure if I were to follow I could play the correct plays with less juice or positive odds....God knows with Cisco's 5 run & dog chase, Governors streak chase and all the home favorites there's plenty to chose from to follow...just knowing the correct chases makes record keeping and testing acurate.

[HarHar00]

Here's my system....just don't play the Angels period the rest of the year regardless of ML, RL or whatever. Too much other action out there to have to sweat this team anymore. Save your $$$ for other plays.

But there is no better relief and satisfaction after u win a nail biter

[TheDarkKnight01]

Recap of 6/4/13

4 game chase play:
#181: Angels -1.5 (100/115) for Game 1 Loser
#183: Royals -136 (299/220) for Game 2 Loser
#186: Nationals -1.5 +120 (1547/1856) for Game 3 Loser
#212: White Sox +1.5 -165 (695/421) for Game 3 Loser
#219: Orioles -1.5 -115 (115/100) for Game 1 Winner
#220: Royals -136 (136/100) for Game 1 Loser
#221: White Sox +1.5 -165 (165/100) for Game 1 Loser

YTD: 199-6 -9291
Game 1: 129
Game 2: 47 (#176, #177, #178, #181, #191, #211, #213, #215, #216, #220, #221 pending)
Game 3: 16 (#183 pending)
Game 4: 7 (#146, #205, #186, #212 pending)
Losses: 6

Series Chase Plays:
#62: Cardinals -155 (155/100) for Game 1 Loser
#63: Cardinals -155 (155/100) for Game 1 Loser
#64: Orioles -1.5 -115 (115/100) for Game 1 Winner

YTD: 60-2 -894
Game 1: 45
Game 2: 10 (#62, #63 pending)
Game 3: 4
Game 4: 1
Losses: 1

[TheDarkKnight01]

Plays for 6/5/13

I’m going to continue posting plays for the 4 game chases until all the pending chases are cleared out. I’m putting the rest on hold for now and will monitor them since they’ve gone ice cold. I will continue to post the series chases though, besides that one huge loss from the stupid Angels it’s done pretty well. I'm truly sorry for how things have turned out the past week or so...

4 game chase play:
#212: White Sox +1.5 -145 (1618/1116) for Game 4
#183: Royals -135 (701/519) for Game 3
#220: Royals -135 (319/236) for Game 2
#221: White Sox +1.5 -145 (384/265) for Game 2
#186: Nationals -145 (4935/3403) for Game 4
#181: Angels -150 (300/200) for Game 2

YTD: 199-6 -9291
Game 1: 129
Game 2: 47 (#176, #177, #178, #181, #191, #211, #213, #215, #216, #220, #221 pending)
Game 3: 16 (#183 pending)
Game 4: 7 (#146, #205, #186, #212 pending)
Losses: 6

Series Chase Plays:
#62: Cardinals -130 (332/255) for Game 2
#63: Cardinals -130 (332/255) for Game 2

YTD: 60-2 -894
Game 1: 45
Game 2: 10 (#62, #63 pending)
Game 3: 4
Game 4: 1
Losses: 1