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  • shari91
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    • 02-23-10
    • 32661

    #911
    23rd ace. Unreal this kid
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    • MUHerd37
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      • 10-23-09
      • 12816

      #912
      Djokovic 3-0 is the play.
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      • WalkingLuckCharm
        SBR MVP
        • 06-07-10
        • 4192

        #913
        Originally posted by MUHerd37
        Djokovic 3-0 is the play.
        sounds like a hate/frustration bet bro. better to make a bet without emotion imo. but yeah i might bet on the under.
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        • hawley
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          • 05-10-10
          • 14270

          #914
          Originally posted by WalkingLuckCharm

          sounds like a hate/frustration bet bro. better to make a bet without emotion imo. but yeah i might bet on the under.
          he has a point though

          I can't see Hewitt taking a set of Djoko the way he is playing
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          • brucethebear
            SBR Wise Guy
            • 08-16-10
            • 724

            #915
            I think the 3-0 will be very short.
            Will probably look at the Joker cap.
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            • shari91
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              • 02-23-10
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              #916
              Originally posted by hawley

              he has a point though

              I can't see Hewitt taking a set of Djoko the way he is playing
              The only worry about that one will be the heat. It's going to start warming up bigtime again tomorrow and will carry through for the next week. Djoko often takes time to get things going when it's hot. Not sure if I'll even touch that match though.
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              • brucethebear
                SBR Wise Guy
                • 08-16-10
                • 724

                #917
                Originally posted by shari91
                There is a 0% chance - I promise you. He's young, doesn't have the experience, isn't a great net player as it is. He's a server, that's it. He's facing a GS Champion at home. Doesn't matter how much people think someone's past their prime... everyone's been saying this is Hewitt's last stand and he got a gift against Roddick. No way he wasn't at least going to try dying on the court in this one. It's just hard to know before a match exactly how much nerves are going to affect someone.
                Agreed.
                Dolgopolov on the other hand......
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                • hawley
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                  • 05-10-10
                  • 14270

                  #918
                  Hewitt celebrates like he made the final

                  although I imagine this was as good as a final for him
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                  • face
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                    • 01-31-11
                    • 14740

                    #919
                    hewitt will act really cheesy now because he's a cheese-ball
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                    • brucethebear
                      SBR Wise Guy
                      • 08-16-10
                      • 724

                      #920
                      Originally posted by hawley
                      Hewitt celebrates like he made the final

                      although I imagine this was as good as a final for him
                      He did that when he won in the first round
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                      • boondoggle
                        SBR MVP
                        • 09-29-10
                        • 3014

                        #921
                        what will spread be for Djokovic..12 or 13?
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                        • MUHerd37
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                          • 10-23-09
                          • 12816

                          #922
                          I don't see how Hewitt can touch Joker. Today Hewitt just got the ball back to Raonic and Raonic sprayed it all over the court. Joker won't do that. Joker will punish it. Also, Joker moves 10x better than Raonic which will help a lot. Joker can also play at the net. Raonic is a joke at the net.
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                          • Sport_Fish
                            SBR MVP
                            • 12-06-10
                            • 4079

                            #923
                            Originally posted by WalkingLuckCharm
                            sounds like a hate/frustration bet bro. better to make a bet without emotion imo. but yeah i might bet on the under.
                            Very well may be a hate bet. But I really didn`t see a SPECTACULAR performance from Hewitt - his opponent simply had a meltdown. Sure Hewitt was playing well, but I still don`t think it took 100% from him to win this one - you could notice how frustrated he looked and his body language, yet he pretty much cruised to the win after the 1st set.

                            So hopefully the books open Djokovic 3-0 at an appealing price because of this game.
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                            • Beason5209
                              SBR Hustler
                              • 03-21-09
                              • 77

                              #924
                              Just finished a nightmare for myself. Huge 10-team parlay that covered all sports. Last leg was Raonic. Decided to hedge during my last two legs of it. The 2nd last thing ends at 5 minutes after Bodog has the match scheduled to start. So I go ready to hedge a few hundred on Hewitt only to find out that they took it off the board even though the match is 15-20 min froms tarting. Usually Bodog will know that a match is delayed and keep it on. No such luck. So I lose the parlay which I bet very little to win big and lose a nice chunk that I hedged on some mixed-doubles.

                              And to top it off, my favourite player looked like shit in the biggest match of his career.
                              Last edited by Beason5209; 01-21-12, 07:53 AM.
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                              • shari91
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                                • 02-23-10
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                                #925
                                Originally posted by Sport_Fish


                                So hopefully the books open Djokovic 3-0 at an appealing price because of this game.
                                I don't see how that would happen. He was +260 against Raonic who has accomplished nothing so far. He'll probably be, what? $7-10 to win against Djoko? I'd be surprised if 3-0 even reached $1.50, if not $1.40. I've been wrong before though! GL if you lay the chalk
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                                • Sport_Fish
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                                  • 12-06-10
                                  • 4079

                                  #926
                                  Originally posted by shari91

                                  There is a 0% chance - I promise you. He's young, doesn't have the experience, isn't a great net player as it is. He's a server, that's it. He's facing a GS Champion at home. Doesn't matter how much people think someone's past their prime... everyone's been saying this is Hewitt's last stand and he got a gift against Roddick. No way he wasn't at least going to try dying on the court in this one. It's just hard to know before a match exactly how much nerves are going to affect someone.
                                  Well I may be saying 60% because I`m biased...but how can you possibly say 0% after watching that match. I don`t see how `nerves` can get to a player (to that extent) with the talent that he has, after being up a set. Anyway, it can never be proven either way, but just the very obvious weak shots and him just smacking the ball 10ft wide seemed very fishy. He def. didnt have confidence issues after winning the opening set and even performing well on 2nd set.

                                  And your right, he`s young - all the more reason money > anything else for him, except maybe winning the slam or reaching the finals, which he knew was never gonna happen.
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                                  • Sport_Fish
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                                    • 12-06-10
                                    • 4079

                                    #927
                                    Originally posted by shari91
                                    I don't see how that would happen. He was +260 against Raonic who has accomplished nothing so far. He'll probably be, what? $7-10 to win against Djoko? I'd be surprised if 3-0 even reached $1.50, if not $1.40. I've been wrong before though! GL if you lay the chalk
                                    Hmm...well I would think 1.50 for Djokovic 3-0 is worth laying the juice. Granted joker hasnt faced any real opponents yet, but he does appear to be good enough to win in straight sets here.
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                                    • boondoggle
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 09-29-10
                                      • 3014

                                      #928
                                      I just never thought Raonic loses...it did take a perfect storm of raonic melting down, hewitt playing near top of his game for his age and a few lucky breaks.

                                      Lot of people lost money on this match..lol. I cleaned up nice in nhl only to lose it all back in tennis
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                                      • MUHerd37
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 10-23-09
                                        • 12816

                                        #929
                                        I blame Shari for Raonic's loss.
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                                        • shari91
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                                          • 02-23-10
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                                          #930
                                          Originally posted by Beason5209
                                          Just finished a nightmare for myself. Huge 10-team parlay that covered all sports. Last leg was Raonic. Decided to hedge during my last two legs of it. The 2nd last thing ends at 5 minutes after Bodog has the match scheduled to start. So I go ready to heads a few hundred on Hewitt only to find out that they took it off the board even though the match is 15-20 min froms tarting. Usually Bodog will know that a match is delayed and keep it on. No such luck. So I lose the parlay which I bet very little to win big and lose a nice chunk that I hedged on some mixed-doubles.

                                          And to top it off, my favourite player looked like shit in the biggest match of his career.
                                          Man that sucks Beason

                                          If you can, try to get an account with bet365. Use it to become an SBR Pro too

                                          Other than the Monfils match today where they were ratbags about putting live betting up for more than 0.3 seconds each time, they have every match up and you'll always have a chance to hedge. And don't give up on Raonic... beefcake and I have been singing his praises for over a year but I didn't even put in a TI bet for this one because I was torn. This was a big ask for him. It's just unfortunate that more of us couldn't see the future and jump on Hewitt this time. It all makes so much sense after the fact
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                                          • Beason5209
                                            SBR Hustler
                                            • 03-21-09
                                            • 77

                                            #931
                                            Forgot to add that Bodog has live betting for the night match and every night it has been the one on Rod Laver but tonight it was the Murray-Llodra match. I honestly watched myself one by one survive each leg to think I had guarantee huge profit. I feel like every other guy on these forums when I say just my luck, but damn that really hurt.

                                            I've watched pretty much all of Raonic's matches. I'd never bet on him heavily in this spot since I knew Hewitt had the game to beat him, but threw him in the parlay for fun.
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                                            • innn
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                                              • 08-31-10
                                              • 492

                                              #932
                                              this guy Raonic lacks experience but will get his share for sure
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                                              • shari91
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                                                • 02-23-10
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                                                #933
                                                Originally posted by Sport_Fish

                                                Well I may be saying 60% because I`m biased...but how can you possibly say 0% after watching that match. I don`t see how `nerves` can get to a player (to that extent) with the talent that he has, after being up a set. Anyway, it can never be proven either way, but just the very obvious weak shots and him just smacking the ball 10ft wide seemed very fishy. He def. didnt have confidence issues after winning the opening set and even performing well on 2nd set.

                                                And your right, he`s young - all the more reason money > anything else for him, except maybe winning the slam or reaching the finals, which he knew was never gonna happen.
                                                He's 21yo, coming up against a guy at home that he probably grew up watching. Even Hewitt admitted he had nerves serving out the final game. Of course Raonic is going to be messed up when the crowd is praying you f up every shot and celebrating like they won the lotto when you do. He doesn't have the best ground game most of the time and little to no net game to speak of. He also returns for crap although he even won more points than Hewitt on that. He had some great forehand winners but unless it's in his sweet spot, chances are it's going to come back at him. He had more than double the winners than Hewitt and more than triple the aces. That's not the stats of someone who's fixing. But he also had 54 unforced errors to Hewitt's 32 = That's lack of experience and nerves on a big stage. Like I said, don't give up on him no matter how pissed you are right now (and I don't blame you). It'll come with time.
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                                                • WalkingLuckCharm
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 06-07-10
                                                  • 4192

                                                  #934
                                                  Fair enough. Good luck bro.
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                                                  • brucethebear
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                                                    • 08-16-10
                                                    • 724

                                                    #935
                                                    Originally posted by boondoggle
                                                    what will spread be for Djokovic..12 or 13?
                                                    I suspect more like 7.5/8.5.
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                                                    • shari91
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                                                      • 02-23-10
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                                                      #936
                                                      Originally posted by MUHerd37
                                                      I blame Shari for Raonic's loss.
                                                      haha I stayed away other than taking my new favourite bet over 3.5 during the 1st. I honestly couldn't pick this one and had too many arguments in my head both for and against. Once it gets to that point and when I'm doing the "ah I should bet on Raonic because he's Canadian" "ugh but I live in Oz now and would really love to see the oldie win", it's time for me to just sit back and cheer everyone else on.
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                                                      • LovetoSpooge
                                                        SBR Sharp
                                                        • 11-20-10
                                                        • 426

                                                        #937
                                                        Originally posted by shari91
                                                        There is a 0% chance - I promise you. He's young, doesn't have the experience, isn't a great net player as it is. He's a server, that's it. He's facing a GS Champion at home. Doesn't matter how much people think someone's past their prime... everyone's been saying this is Hewitt's last stand and he got a gift against Roddick. No way he wasn't at least going to try dying on the court in this one. It's just hard to know before a match exactly how much nerves are going to affect someone.
                                                        Completely agree.
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                                                        • EaglesPhan36
                                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                                          • 12-06-06
                                                          • 71662

                                                          #938
                                                          Well hard for me to hate on Hewitt winning as he is one of the all time warriors in this sport. Sucks to lose a parlay but thats the breaks. Glad Monfils lost. KuKu has shown some balls trhis tourney. Back to the grind later.

                                                          ... Also I still don't understand those who are thinking about fading Djokovic in any way, shape or form because of the heat. The heat #1 is going to effect both players and #2, guy proved he could deal with it last year. #3, you can bet your ass that match is going to be in Aussie prime time at night ... so the temperature will not be nearly as hot as during the late afternoon with the sun beating down on them.
                                                          Last edited by EaglesPhan36; 01-21-12, 11:40 AM.
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                                                          • EaglesPhan36
                                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                                            • 12-06-06
                                                            • 71662

                                                            #939
                                                            I just saw one shot of Raonic's face during the 3rd set tie break ... very apparent the moment was too big for him. If the match was at the US Open where the crowd would be less biased, guessing his nerves would have been less shaky.
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                                                            • shari91
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                                                              • 02-23-10
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                                                              #940
                                                              Originally posted by EaglesPhan36
                                                              Well hard for me to hate on Hewitt winning as he is one of the all time warriors in this sport. Sucks to lose a parlay but thats the breaks. Glad Monfils lost. KuKu has shown some balls trhis tourney. Back to the grind later.

                                                              ... Also I still don't understand those who are thinking about fading Djokovic in any way, shape or form because of the heat. The heat #1 is going to effect both players and #2, guy proved he could deal with it last year. #3, you can bet your ass that match is going to be in Aussie prime time at night ... so the temperature will not be nearly as hot as during the late afternoon with the sun beating down on them.
                                                              No one should be fading Djoko... my point was to MUHerd who was talking about the 3-0. It will be hot. It always is in RL when it's been a warm day with no clouds and there's a big crowd. As I suspected the price on the 3-0 is -300/$1.33. Going big on that is insane.
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                                                              • EaglesPhan36
                                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                                • 12-06-06
                                                                • 71662

                                                                #941
                                                                Well yeah. Big on anything over -150 in tennis to me is one of the worst decisions you can make.
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                                                                • shari91
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                                                                  • 02-23-10
                                                                  • 32661

                                                                  #942
                                                                  Originally posted by EaglesPhan36
                                                                  Well yeah. Big on anything over -150 in tennis to me is one of the worst decisions you can make.
                                                                  Yeah -200 is my limit and that's maybe 4 times a year. The ML is -2500/+1200 that I see so I can only imagine what the spread and total will be. I just don't see how this match will be playable at all unless the spread is large enough and I might put a bit on Hewitt.
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                                                                  • gregm
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                                                                    • 03-14-11
                                                                    • 3535

                                                                    #943
                                                                    Djokovic used to have that problem with his breathing and that always seemed to worry me when I was wagering on him in 5 setters. There was that big controversy last year when the Wall street journal claimed he regularly uses that altitude training device, the CVAC. Amazing to see the change last year in his conditioning in these long matches.
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                                                                    • LovetoSpooge
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                                                                      • 11-20-10
                                                                      • 426

                                                                      #944
                                                                      I think there's value in djokovic winning the tournament at better than even money, I no Mahut is no world beat and he was injured but djokovic's mobility around the court is pretty amazing and he won yesterday without even trying. Easily the hardest player to hit winners against IMO I'm quite confident he wins this tournament.
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                                                                      • EaglesPhan36
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                                                                        • 12-06-06
                                                                        • 71662

                                                                        #945
                                                                        I don't think anyone is picking against him. Pretty much like Federer in his prime when Federer was actually laying chalk to win most Slams. We'll see when he finally gets to face someone worth a shit. I think a Ferrer QF match-up would be real fun to watch. Ferrer will at least make him work as hard as anyone. I don't see him dropping a set to Hewitt most likely unless Djokovic starts like a total turd. Time to research for tonight ...
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