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  • Stacocakes
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    • 04-10-08
    • 7126

    #1
    Stacocakes Monte-Carlo Masters thread
    It's a great time of the season with clay court tennis. Gotta love it. This is the time of the year where you look at player's like Murray and Roddick and forget about how good they are, they can't play on this surface. This is where players like Juan Monaco, David Ferrer and of course Rafa Nadal live.
    This tournament has crept up pretty fast here since I forgot about the time difference. Matches should be starting at about 4:30 am eastern on monday morning so let's get to it.

    I've looked at the draw and there should be some good matches here. I think David Ferrer is going to have a good run and knock off Andy Murray to get to the semifinals where he will......lose to Nadal. This draw isn't all that easy for Nadal. He faces Schwank probably in the second round and he is a decent clay court player, though I don't think he stands a chance in that match. Nadal would then face Juan Monaco in the third round and that should be a great match.

    This tournament is really going to tell us where Nadal is at with his game. If he dominates the clay court season then we definately know that he is back. If he has troubles then look out for the "rafa is done" posts on messageboards. I personally think Nadal is going to win this tourament but at odds of -150 to win I would rather take my chances on a bigger dog outright and take my chances.

    As always I will take an outright bet from each half of the draw. Sometimes things end up good and I have both players in the finals like in the Sony Ericcson open but other times I have neither of the players and thats common in tennis. Things change so much from week to week and pretty much anything can happen and usually does.

    Novak Djokovic +700

    Mr. DJokovic how many times are you going to disappoint me this year? I seem to always pick you as an outright and you haven't done much for me that is for sure. Like his game on clay alot and although I was considering Nalbandian, Robredo and Verdasco from this half of the draw I figure that Djokovic will probably make his way to the finals.

    David Ferrer +4500

    Ferrer definately has a great clay court game and the match against Murray should be a great match but I think that Ferrer has a definate shot of making it to the semifinals where he will play Nadal. I don't think he will beat Nadal but getting odds of +4500 on a player is good enough to take a chance on him.

    Plays for Monday:

    Dolgopolov +128

    Dolgopolov is playing Benneteau in round one who is basically on the downslide in his career. Benneteau is not a good clay court player and is coming into this match having lost 4 of his last 5 matches. Dolgopolov is a young Ukranian player that has played alot of clay court tennis in recent weeks with much success. Though most ofit has been challenger matches his clay court record so far this year is 16-4 and it was 21-7 last year. I'm going to take a chance on Dolgopolv knocking off the aging Benneteau here.

    I think for now that is going to be my only play for monday. Just want to sit back and get a feel for the tournament. Lots of bad prices in the opening round of a tournament as always so I am going to wait a couple days before I hit anything major.

    Best of luck this week guys I look forward to talking to tennis with you all. Let's make some money
  • EaglesPhan36
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 12-06-06
    • 71662

    #2
    I'm all over Dolgopolov as well bud. Let's get it.
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    • Fthenorm
      SBR Wise Guy
      • 10-20-07
      • 712

      #3
      Agree completely on Dolgopolov...hopefully this amounts to success. I am also on Bellucci -117. Good Luck.
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      • beefcake
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 11-26-09
        • 14029

        #4
        Yeah benne is shite...

        Agree with you cakes on ferrer.

        Should be a fun tourney!!
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        • Stacocakes
          SBR Hall of Famer
          • 04-10-08
          • 7126

          #5
          Nice to see others on Dolgopolov. Seems like the only play on the board with any real value unless you want to bet a -300 favorite. I have a feeling Berdych goes out very very early in this tournament and also I think Ljubicic goes out early. Just have to pick the spot where it will happen.

          Best of luck with Bellucci Fthenorm. I was considering that match but I am still so mad at him for coming back and beating blake a couple weeks ago and screwing me over. Kohlschreiber has just been so poor lately. He has lost 6 of his last 10 matches and of those four wins, one of them was by a retirment. Bellucci does look like the play for this match but I will probably still pass on it. Hope it hits for you

          As a side note, a funny match on monday is Becker vs Tomic. Both players are horrible on clay. Becker is 7-20 on clay in his career and Tomich hasn't even won a match on clay at 0-5. I think Becker price of -235 is pretty poor value here given the circumstances.
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          • Stacocakes
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            • 04-10-08
            • 7126

            #6
            Whats up Beefcake?
            Should be another exciting week of tennis
            Wish there wasn't such a big time difference with this tournament.I love watching clay court tennis. These matches start at 2:30 am local time here which is way to early for me. Will just have to wake up and hope that the matches hit.
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            • Spanks
              SBR MVP
              • 04-12-07
              • 2040

              #7
              like the play also...good luck...
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              • MUHerd37
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                • 10-23-09
                • 12816

                #8
                Nadal has won this tournament the last 5 years. It's basically his own tourney.
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                • Glitch
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 07-08-09
                  • 11795

                  #9
                  benneteau d. dolgopolov
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                  • fixxer
                    SBR MVP
                    • 09-13-05
                    • 1877

                    #10
                    Wow, both players played really bad....luckily, I was of the french player, but I was sure in the end of the 2nd set, that he will lose - after losing 3 games (2 own service games) to love
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                    • beefcake
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 11-26-09
                      • 14029

                      #11
                      Wow,both players are wankers..No body deserved to win.
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                      • Spanks
                        SBR MVP
                        • 04-12-07
                        • 2040

                        #12
                        fn euro-trash lost...
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                        • Stacocakes
                          SBR Hall of Famer
                          • 04-10-08
                          • 7126

                          #13
                          bah not a good start. Dolgopolov goes down

                          No real big upsets today. Garcia-Lopez loses to Petzschner as a -200 favorite or so. That's about it.

                          Do you guys like anything for tomorrow?
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                          • MUHerd37
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 10-23-09
                            • 12816

                            #14
                            I was on Dolgopolov. I won a 4 person parlay already. I have a 6 person parlay pending, just need Monaco to finish it off. Really would have like to see Dolgopolov win tho.
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                            • EaglesPhan36
                              SBR Aristocracy
                              • 12-06-06
                              • 71662

                              #15
                              Couple of dogs might be worth a bark tomorrow:

                              Zeballos +250 over Robredo (Depends if the Zeballos from Houston in Rounds 1&2 shows up)
                              Also kind of like Robert in a revenge spot against Serra.

                              I think Montanes at around -130 over Baghdatis is strong and will probably only go up. Baggy can play on clay, but he hasn't had much match play on the surface in the last few years. I'd side with the guy who does in Montanes.
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                              • MUHerd37
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 10-23-09
                                • 12816

                                #16
                                I have a for sure winner in WTA if you want it. It's a huge favorite tho. Alona Bondarenko -765 over Julie Ditty. It's huge but it's also for sure. Parlay it with something. Julie Ditty is terrible. We grew up in the same town and I can't stand her or her family. Damn dad always wanting to talk about Julie and her damn tennis! She's terrible!!!!!!!!!!! Bondarenko is such a huge favorite but there is a reason for it.
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                                • JNic
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 01-03-10
                                  • 4272

                                  #17
                                  line is really moving on De Bakker, +115 to -200. Schwank still must have back injury
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                                  • Boner_18
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 08-24-08
                                    • 8301

                                    #18
                                    I agree w/ EP on the Serra/Roberts call. Capped it last week for Casablanca and everything I wrote in that blog still applies plus Serra is set up for a decent-run let down from that tournament. Getting Robert as a dog is a play for me.
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                                    • beefcake
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 11-26-09
                                      • 14029

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by MUHerd37
                                      I have a for sure winner in WTA if you want it. It's a huge favorite tho. Alona Bondarenko -765 over Julie Ditty. It's huge but it's also for sure. Parlay it with something. Julie Ditty is terrible. We grew up in the same town and I can't stand her or her family. Damn dad always wanting to talk about Julie and her damn tennis! She's terrible!!!!!!!!!!! Bondarenko is such a huge favorite but there is a reason for it.
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                                      • raydog
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                                        • 11-07-07
                                        • 6984

                                        #20
                                        this thread has qwaawidy potential
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                                        • MUHerd37
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                                          • 10-23-09
                                          • 12816

                                          #21
                                          Beefcake don't hate! Congratulate! I'm not saying put down a whole 700. I'm saying parlay it. There is plenty of baseball for it today!
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                                          • EaglesPhan36
                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                            • 12-06-06
                                            • 71662

                                            #22
                                            Hadn't really looked over the draw till now, predictions:

                                            Djokovic has an easy route to the QFs it seems. Watch out for Nalbandian if he gets on a roll though.

                                            Bottom half is wide open because it's full of choke artists. Verdasco. Gasquet. Berdych. Cilic. I think whomever makes it out of the bottom portion of that bracket could get through as they'll have been battle tested. I'm sensing someone weird like Berdych or Gasquet.

                                            Think Ferrer is a superb pick at that price in that bracket.

                                            Nadal should roll into the semis.
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                                            • Stacocakes
                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                              • 04-10-08
                                              • 7126

                                              #23
                                              Nice hit on Monaco MUherd to cap the parlay. I don't think there is ever anything in WTA that is a surefire winner haha especially with Bondarenko.

                                              Eagles I was thinking about MOntanes as well. He's always a good bet on clay. Still debating whether or not to pull the trigger on it. Agree Nalbandian could be a darkhorse here. Liked him for his match today but of course it had a big price tag on it of -500 or whatever it was. He's the only player I see in the way of Djokovic getting to the semifinals. The thing about Nalbandian though is that his fitness could be an issue. In the match where he was beating Nadal a couple weeks ago he might have been able to finish that off had he been in better match shape but he wasn't and he ran out of gas. Will be interesting to see how he plays here. Definately like him over Youzhny in the next round.

                                              I'll look over tomorrows matches and see what I can come up with. Will let you guys know in a bit. Lots of baseball to bet on today haha
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                                              • michalis
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                                                • 01-02-10
                                                • 1439

                                                #24
                                                nalbandian recovering from two surgeries? dunno how far he'll go
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                                                • Boner_18
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                                                  • 08-24-08
                                                  • 8301

                                                  #25
                                                  Call me crazy but I like a lot of dogs tomorrow. Seriously looking at Andreev, Mathieu, and Robert. I would take De Bakker on the off chance he comes down around -130. I also actually like Verdasco even at -435 (wins 81/100 is the implied win % there). Might parlay him small with each of those dogs, if one hits that is a small gain over the three bets and if two hit.. I dunno.
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                                                  • EaglesPhan36
                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                    • 12-06-06
                                                    • 71662

                                                    #26
                                                    F*ck Mathieu. Would agree it's the only spot to take him in - when he's a dog - but I don't think he's anywhere close to 100%. Guy lost to f-ing Oscar Hernandez who was I think at a dozen in a row on the loss side of life on clay in Casablanca. Agree on Andreev & Robert at the prices being worth a look. Cilic is so unpredictable, no reason to back him as a larger favorite.
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                                                    • Stacocakes
                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                      • 04-10-08
                                                      • 7126

                                                      #27
                                                      Mathieu is coming into this tournament having won only 2 of his last 10 matches. Would definately stay away from him though he is a good price at +180

                                                      Verdasco over Benneteau I agree 100%
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                                                      • Stacocakes
                                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                                        • 04-10-08
                                                        • 7126

                                                        #28
                                                        Cilic is a definate no-play on clay at those odds. Agree with Eagles that you can't trust that guy ever as a big fav. If he makes it later in the tournament playing him as a dog though might be kinda interesting.
                                                        Andreev has a chance and the +184 number is really nice
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                                                        • Stacocakes
                                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                                          • 04-10-08
                                                          • 7126

                                                          #29
                                                          Here is something fun for you guys to try out. Gives you 7 mins to name the top 50 players in the atp



                                                          I got to 43 then was having a brain cramp.Couldn't get all 50
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                                                          • Boner_18
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                                                            • 08-24-08
                                                            • 8301

                                                            #30
                                                            Wow, missed a lot. Got impatient with 2 minutes left and almost 20 left to name.
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                                                            • Boner_18
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                                                              • 08-24-08
                                                              • 8301

                                                              #31
                                                              Here is a $1 parlay I placed for tomorrow (I'm a small bettor anyway):
                                                              Marin Cilic -215*
                                                              Stephane Robert +190*
                                                              Stanislas Wawrinka -285*
                                                              Lukasz Kubot +150*
                                                              Albert Montanes -120*
                                                              Fabio Fognini -190*
                                                              Thiemo De Bakker -155*
                                                              Fernando Verdasco -495*
                                                              Nicolas Almagro -125*

                                                              pays $140 for a buck. Sure something will kill it but I always end up convincing myself NOT to play so many of these matchups despite feeling strongly about so many at first glance... only to convince myself not to play them when looking deeper.
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                                                              • Stacocakes
                                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                • 04-10-08
                                                                • 7126

                                                                #32
                                                                Those are some great odds on that parlay Boner. hmm you've got me thinking here. I was trying to put together a parlay but some of these big numbers I don't really trust like Cilic, Fognini.... To be honest you could tell me any player on the board tomorrow wins their respective matches and I would not be surprised. I like the second round matchups alot more then the first. That Tsonga/Almagro match will be very good I think wow. Verdasco beats Benneteau tomorrow.

                                                                Tsonga , Gasquet and Andreev are all pretty tempting. Will probably pass on Andreev since he hasn't been a top player for ages but will consider the other two. Almagro is so good on clay and Tsonga is not. Geez I gotta think about these for a bit.
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                                                                • Boner_18
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                                                                  • 08-24-08
                                                                  • 8301

                                                                  #33
                                                                  I know it's so tough. As I drill deeper on Cilic/Andreev I have convinced myself that Andreev is the play (thats 2-3 flip/flops i've lost track), prolly should be a no play. I actually really like Fognini at -190, I know that sounds crazy but look at Llodra's record on clay.
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                                                                  • Stacocakes
                                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                    • 04-10-08
                                                                    • 7126

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Well if anything its better to take a chance on a big dog then to take a chance on some -300 fav you aren't sure about. At least you lose less if the dog loses.
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                                                                    • Stacocakes
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                                                                      • 04-10-08
                                                                      • 7126

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Some more lines out for tomorrow night's/mornings matches

                                                                      Nalbandian is -170 over Youzhny. Will definately take Nalbandian there

                                                                      JCF is -900 over Becker. Wow crazy line. He will definately win this match though. Same goes with Ferrer at -725 over Golubev.

                                                                      Murray's worst surface by far here. -260 odds over Kohlschreiber. Murray can't get knocked out of another tournament early can he? I may include Murray in a parlay just because he is the better player here. He is a complete toss up on clay though and that scares me a bit. Will definately not play this is a straight bet no matter what I do.Will put it into a parlay.
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