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  • TechnicalTrader
    SBR MVP
    • 05-09-16
    • 1434

    #141
    Originally posted by exoticus
    Have you done this in Murray's game today, he lost 4 straight first points on service. Doesn't this mean you would have wiped your bank?
    I missed Murray's game, but the system would've went:

    A: 2-1
    B: 0-1
    C: 1:0

    Note that I wait for THREE missed even/odd serves not like originally suggested. Take a look at the fifth game of the 3rd set. Murray lost both of the first odd both of the first even serve points. During his next service game, he dropped the very first point and that would've been my trigger. He then won the second point and disqualified the even serve chase. As you can see, he lost the second odd service point and the chase went to game B. On the second point of the first game in the fourth set, he won. Doing so, winning the B leg of the chase.

    Use this link and get back to me if you have any questions: http://www.tennis24.com/match/dvIpns...int-by-point;1

    I would suggest to ONLY play top 20-30 players and NEVER chase against them. Don't even look at any players under the 40-50 ranking. As for BR management; on a 3 game chase my total risk is never more than 40% of BR, so no, I loss would not wipe me out just hurt...

    I hope this helped.
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    • exoticus
      SBR Rookie
      • 08-27-15
      • 44

      #142
      Oh i was under the impression that your are betting only on the first point for the server? "I wait for THREE missed even/odd serves" - 3 like combination of each to make a total of 3 or 3 from both odd and even servers for a total of 6? Lastly "As you can see, he lost the second odd service point" , didn't he win it? 0-15, 15-15, 30-15, 40-15, 40-30, 40-40, 40-A BP. Isn't 30-15 the second odd service point? Sorry for all the questions, just really want to get it . Thank you.
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      • TechnicalTrader
        SBR MVP
        • 05-09-16
        • 1434

        #143
        3 odds OR 3 evens in a row. I'm on my phone, will explain in detail later if it's clear. Let me know.
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        • TechnicalTrader
          SBR MVP
          • 05-09-16
          • 1434

          #144
          Oh, forgot to mention that we are only taking the first four points of each game in to consideration.
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          • exoticus
            SBR Rookie
            • 08-27-15
            • 44

            #145
            Oh i see now, just one thing that's unclear first point - odd , second point - even, third point - odd, fourth point - even ---> correct? Too bad i am catching a flight tonight and will be away 2 weeks, won't be able to test it out now.
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            • TechnicalTrader
              SBR MVP
              • 05-09-16
              • 1434

              #146
              Correct and have a good flight.
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              • spankmythighs
                SBR MVP
                • 01-26-10
                • 2884

                #147
                Im back to kick this into high gear. Time to make some money and brainstorm. Time to make some money before MLB season. Putting some of my winnings into Bitcoin too. Year of the Bitcoin
                sbr
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                • spankmythighs
                  SBR MVP
                  • 01-26-10
                  • 2884

                  #148
                  +11 units today.
                  sbr
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                  • spankmythighs
                    SBR MVP
                    • 01-26-10
                    • 2884

                    #149
                    +13 units yesterday.
                    sbr
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                    • spankmythighs
                      SBR MVP
                      • 01-26-10
                      • 2884

                      #150
                      Old strategy: 30-1 today
                      New strategy: 9-0
                      sbr
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                      • nosaij
                        SBR Wise Guy
                        • 03-16-12
                        • 986

                        #151
                        do you guys need to call bet365 for live betting?
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                        • gorwin068
                          SBR Wise Guy
                          • 05-16-16
                          • 920

                          #152
                          Originally posted by nosaij
                          do you guys need to call bet365 for live betting?
                          In Australia I have to call, because of the law restriction...silly...
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                          • nosaij
                            SBR Wise Guy
                            • 03-16-12
                            • 986

                            #153
                            same thats why i asked very inconvenient
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                            • gorwin068
                              SBR Wise Guy
                              • 05-16-16
                              • 920

                              #154
                              Originally posted by nosaij
                              same thats why i asked very inconvenient
                              You are from Australia too?
                              Yeh, very silly and inconvenient if you want Live Betting, actually last year the law still allowed automated voice call on the computer so you can still place the bet instantly without making a phone call...But then few months ago the law even banned this...Damn
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                              • spankmythighs
                                SBR MVP
                                • 01-26-10
                                • 2884

                                #155
                                I live in Canada and we have zero restrictions on live betting. I cant believe u guys have to call in. That would be impossible with our strategy.
                                sbr
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                                • gorwin068
                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                  • 05-16-16
                                  • 920

                                  #156
                                  Originally posted by spankmythighs
                                  I live in Canada and we have zero restrictions on live betting. I cant believe u guys have to call in. That would be impossible with our strategy.
                                  Yeh it's silly in Australia.
                                  UK has no restriction at all too.
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                                  • spankmythighs
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 01-26-10
                                    • 2884

                                    #157
                                    If you need me to trade for you guys let me know 👍
                                    sbr
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                                    • spankmythighs
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 01-26-10
                                      • 2884

                                      #158
                                      Not a ton of games lately.

                                      21-0 for +21 units today. I'd say that's a hell of a day!
                                      sbr
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                                      • spankmythighs
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 01-26-10
                                        • 2884

                                        #159
                                        +54 units in the last 4 days alone.
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                                        • spankmythighs
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 01-26-10
                                          • 2884

                                          #160
                                          Another 15-0 today for +15 units

                                          +69 units in the last 5 days! If you are not doing this system, you're a dinosaur. This is the best strategy around folks. If you can live bet on bet365, than this is the last system you need.
                                          sbr
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                                          • spankmythighs
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 01-26-10
                                            • 2884

                                            #161
                                            The weekend was filled with tons of games. Took down around 40 more units on the weekend. Stats and record tomorrow.
                                            sbr
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                                            • Dego
                                              SBR Hustler
                                              • 10-16-11
                                              • 90

                                              #162
                                              When are the next matches that offer odd/even set betting? Currently looking at bet365 but there is no games with this offer.
                                              Last edited by Dego; 02-07-17, 07:00 AM.
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                                              • TechnicalTrader
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 05-09-16
                                                • 1434

                                                #163
                                                Awesome stuff Spanks!!

                                                Someone asked me to explain the system in detail. Here is how I play it ( I personally wait for three missed odd/even serves and chase for three). It's just a lot less risky....


                                                System is simple:

                                                -Select top 30-40 player
                                                -Only play his service games
                                                -Only watch the first four points of each game, divide points in evens and odds
                                                (his first point served is odd, second is even, third is odd, fourth is even)
                                                -Wait for him to lose THREE odd or even serves
                                                (example would be 0:15, 15:15, 15:30,30:30, here he lost his ODD service points, now wait for next service game. If he losses the first serve, play the third serve and chase)
                                                -Never play any points after the fourth point of each game
                                                (lets assume he misses the third service point, rather than playing the fifth, you play the first point of HIS next service game)
                                                -Chase three times

                                                -Your odds will be between 1.44 and 1.72 (-225 to -140)
                                                -DO NOT risk to win more than 2% of your bankroll on the first bet. On a 2% chase, the third leg of the chase will cost you about 68% of your bankroll.

                                                -I highly recommend to never risk to win more than 1% of bankroll. Just in case you miss an early chase, you'll still have enough cash to dig yourself out of the hole.

                                                I hope this helped.
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                                                • TechnicalTrader
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 05-09-16
                                                  • 1434

                                                  #164
                                                  Originally posted by Dego
                                                  When are the next matches that offer odd/even set betting? Currently looking at bet365 but there is no games with this offer.
                                                  You need to play 1st, 2nd, 3rd or 4th point of service game. Books do not have the option "even or odd" service points
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                                                  • TechnicalTrader
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 05-09-16
                                                    • 1434

                                                    #165
                                                    Originally posted by spankmythighs
                                                    The weekend was filled with tons of games. Took down around 40 more units on the weekend. Stats and record tomorrow.

                                                    How many time did you lose a chase because I noticed about three games where a chase would've lost...
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                                                    • Dego
                                                      SBR Hustler
                                                      • 10-16-11
                                                      • 90

                                                      #166
                                                      Originally posted by TechnicalTrader
                                                      You need to play 1st, 2nd, 3rd or 4th point of service game. Books do not have the option "even or odd" service points
                                                      This is the bet right?

                                                      Last edited by Dego; 02-09-17, 03:58 AM.
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                                                      • Dego
                                                        SBR Hustler
                                                        • 10-16-11
                                                        • 90

                                                        #167
                                                        I get it now I think

                                                        Is there any way we could do the opposite chase? Against the guy that is serving, the odds look awesome 2.5+
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                                                        • TechnicalTrader
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 05-09-16
                                                          • 1434

                                                          #168
                                                          OK, one last time for those who dont understand...

                                                          ATP - SINGLES: Rotterdam (Netherlands), hard (indoor) - 1/16-finals


                                                          We are looking at yesterdays match between Berdych and Copil, focusing on the 8th game of the first set.

                                                          Berdych goes up 15:0, then drops the second serve (15:15), he then wins the third (30:15) and losses the fourth 30:30). We are now wating for HIS next service game and are playing EVENS, which is game 10.

                                                          During game 10, he losses his first service point (0:15) and then drops this second (0:30), this is our signal to bet on the next EVEN service point, which is point 4 of the 10th game. He then wins the third point (15:30) and sure enough wins the fourth (30:30). This was an A game winner.

                                                          He also lost the second and fourth service points of the 7th game of the second set, but the score was 4-3 after that game and this match was only a first to two set match. I do not play the upcoming points because a C game chase is in danger. He ended up winning the fourth point of the ninth game (which would've worked out), but as you can see he won the 10th game so a B and C point chase would not have been possible.

                                                          If it's not clear, I am sorry you might just need to move on and try another system.

                                                          Spankster, are you playing any games today?? I was up around 8% BR 8 units) yesterday...
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                                                          • spankmythighs
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 01-26-10
                                                            • 2884

                                                            #169
                                                            You are correct. I did manage to lose one on the weekend. There were a couple others but I was working and managed to stay away from those. The early games kill me with the time change. I have been playing <150 in challenger aswell.
                                                            sbr
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                                                            • gougola
                                                              SBR Rookie
                                                              • 10-12-16
                                                              • 32

                                                              #170
                                                              Today looks to be an absolutely sick day for the system! I have been trying it out, and losing a lot penetrating around with challengers and servers with low 1/st %. Expirienced some bad luck yesterday with Cilic losing 3 1st serve points in a row. The system overall is super! I just have to be more disciplined myself.
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                                                              • TechnicalTrader
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 05-09-16
                                                                • 1434

                                                                #171
                                                                Originally posted by gougola
                                                                Today looks to be an absolutely sick day for the system! I have been trying it out, and losing a lot penetrating around with challengers and servers with low 1/st %. Expirienced some bad luck yesterday with Cilic losing 3 1st serve points in a row. The system overall is super! I just have to be more disciplined myself.

                                                                Again, only play players with high first serve % rates and also avoid anything under top 30,40,50 players.

                                                                Discipline is key.
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                                                                • gougola
                                                                  SBR Rookie
                                                                  • 10-12-16
                                                                  • 32

                                                                  #172
                                                                  Just got absolutely destroyed with Alexander Zverev losing 3 even points in a row... This strategy might not be for me after all.
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                                                                  • TechnicalTrader
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 05-09-16
                                                                    • 1434

                                                                    #173
                                                                    Originally posted by gougola
                                                                    Just got absolutely destroyed with Alexander Zverev losing 3 even points in a row... This strategy might not be for me after all.

                                                                    I'm preety sure you are playing it wrong. Here are all of the Zverev plays (highlighted blue):

                                                                    Trigger: SET1, GAME 3 and 5 =
                                                                    0:15, 0:30, 0:40, 15:40, 30:40, 40:40, A:40
                                                                    0:15
                                                                    , 15:15, 30:15, 40:15, 40:30, 40:40, 40:A, 40:40, A:40, 40:40, 40:ABP
                                                                    Chase: SET 1, GAME 5 =
                                                                    0:15, 15:15, 30:
                                                                    15, 40:15, 40:30, 40:40, 40:AP, 40:40, A:40, 40:40, 40:ABP

                                                                    Trigger SET 1,GAMES 7 and 9 =
                                                                    15:0, 15:15, 30:15, 30:30, 40:30, 40:40, A:40
                                                                    15:0, 15:15,
                                                                    30:15, 40:15
                                                                    Chase: SET 1 GAMES 9 =
                                                                    15:0, 15:15, 30:15, 40:
                                                                    15

                                                                    Game 4 of the second set also had an even game triggered and it ended up going to a C game, in the 8th game of that set.

                                                                    Which games did you play???

                                                                    Again.... Wait for the serving player to drop THREE odd or even points (counting ONLY the first four points of a game), then chase.
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                                                                    • TechnicalTrader
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 05-09-16
                                                                      • 1434

                                                                      #174
                                                                      Formatting sucks on this site. Just go to tennis24 and see for yourself...
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                                                                      • gougola
                                                                        SBR Rookie
                                                                        • 10-12-16
                                                                        • 32

                                                                        #175
                                                                        Oh my God, I had it all wrong. I saw game 4 of set 2 as a trigger to chase the even service points, so i chased the even points in game 6, and the first even point in game 8, then I gave up the hit to BR being so big. So the chase actually triggered in game 6 of set 2, when Zverev lost the first even service point???
                                                                        BR taking some damage because of me being stupid and not playing it right Thanks for the reply, I might give this another shot in X amout of time, because I really think you are on to something!
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