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  • TechnicalTrader
    SBR MVP
    • 05-09-16
    • 1434

    #106
    Dodig/Melo: 0-0-0
    Djokovic: 1-2-0

    7-4-2

    Original system: +13 units
    Revived system: +21 units

    Taking B bets and chasing only once seems to be the way to go. It is also a lot easier to bet and less stressful.

    This bad boy is up 21 units in only three days of play! I can't wait for a few majors and some grand slams.
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    • TechnicalTrader
      SBR MVP
      • 05-09-16
      • 1434

      #107
      Kontinen/Peers: 1-0-0

      8-4-2

      Original system: +14 units
      Revived system: +21 units

      Up next:

      Murray
      Herbert/Mahu
      Cilic
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      • TechnicalTrader
        SBR MVP
        • 05-09-16
        • 1434

        #108
        BTW; Murray was 20-7-0 at the US Open and Ausi Open. Last year he went; 5-0-0 at the ATP World Finals.

        I will play the normal system on his games.
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        • TechnicalTrader
          SBR MVP
          • 05-09-16
          • 1434

          #109
          Murray:3-1-0

          11-5-2

          Original system: +19 units
          Revived system: +24.5 units

          Next up:
          Herbert/Mahu
          Cilic
          Last edited by TechnicalTrader; 11-16-16, 12:38 PM.
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          • TechnicalTrader
            SBR MVP
            • 05-09-16
            • 1434

            #110
            Herbert/Mahu: 0-0-0
            Cilic: 3-0-0

            14-5-2

            Original system: +21 units
            Revived system: +24.5 units

            up next:

            Bryan/Bryan
            Djokovic
            Murray/Soares
            Raonic
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            • Flea Hotel
              Restricted User
              • 08-31-16
              • 1732

              #111
              I don't understand this... Is there a pick on the Raonic/Thiem in here somewhere? Sorry, I'm a slow adult.
              Originally posted by TechnicalTrader
              Herbert/Mahu: 0-0-0
              Cilic: 3-0-0

              14-5-2

              Original system: +21 units
              Revived system: +24.5 units

              up next:

              Bryan/Bryan
              Djokovic
              Murray/Soares
              Raonic
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              • TechnicalTrader
                SBR MVP
                • 05-09-16
                • 1434

                #112
                Originally posted by Flea Hotel
                I don't understand this... Is there a pick on the Raonic/Thiem in here somewhere? Sorry, I'm a slow adult.
                Play Raonic. Read the rules in the OP.
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                • TechnicalTrader
                  SBR MVP
                  • 05-09-16
                  • 1434

                  #113
                  Bryan/Bryan: 0-0-0
                  Djokovic: 0-1-0
                  Murray/Soares: 1-0-0

                  2016, World Tour Finals
                  15-6-2

                  Original system: +23 units
                  Revived system: +28 units

                  I was busy this afternoon and missed the Djokovic match, super mad I missed that B bet...
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                  • TechnicalTrader
                    SBR MVP
                    • 05-09-16
                    • 1434

                    #114
                    Raonic: 0-2-0

                    2016, World Tour Finals
                    15-8-2

                    Original system: +25 units
                    Revived system: +35 units
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                    • spankmythighs
                      SBR MVP
                      • 01-26-10
                      • 2884

                      #115
                      New year cant come soon enough. The season is gonna be epic. Are you still doing the first serve bet and only taking 70% serving favorites? Let me know what you got goin on. Thx man
                      sbr
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                      • TechnicalTrader
                        SBR MVP
                        • 05-09-16
                        • 1434

                        #116
                        Nope, way too time consuming for me to do right now. I enjoy playing the B bet the most but chasing only once.
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                        • TechnicalTrader
                          SBR MVP
                          • 05-09-16
                          • 1434

                          #117
                          Originally posted by spankmythighs
                          New year cant come soon enough. The season is gonna be epic. Are you still doing the first serve bet and only taking 70% serving favorites? Let me know what you got goin on. Thx man
                          Something else I'm looking in to but don't really have time to do in depth backtesting but here it is:

                          Variables)

                          1) Only play strong fav's or highly ranked "1st serve points won" serving players.
                          2) Wait for serving player to drop two first game points.
                          3) Chase once and only once!
                          Again, this might not even work...Still need to get backtesting done.
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                          • TechnicalTrader
                            SBR MVP
                            • 05-09-16
                            • 1434

                            #118
                            I laid off of the early doubles game because there was no clear favorite.

                            Up next:

                            Murray
                            Lopez/lopez
                            Nichikori
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                            • spankmythighs
                              SBR MVP
                              • 01-26-10
                              • 2884

                              #119
                              So what is the actual revised now?
                              sbr
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                              • TechnicalTrader
                                SBR MVP
                                • 05-09-16
                                • 1434

                                #120
                                Wait for B bet.

                                Current game: If Murray loses 2nd point of 8th game, play 4th
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                                • TechnicalTrader
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 05-09-16
                                  • 1434

                                  #121
                                  Murray:

                                  Raonic: 1-1-0

                                  2016, World Tour Finals
                                  16-9-2

                                  Original system: +27 units
                                  Revived system: +38.5 units
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                                  • TechnicalTrader
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 05-09-16
                                    • 1434

                                    #122
                                    Lopez/Lopez: 1-1-0

                                    up next:
                                    Nishikori
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                                    • TechnicalTrader
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 05-09-16
                                      • 1434

                                      #123
                                      Awesome find!!!

                                      Up until now, I've only been able to backtest ATP and WTA games.... All other events simply do not have the "Point by Point" tab.

                                      Well, just add this to the URL and you can view each point!

                                      #point-by-point;1

                                      CHALLENGER MEN - SINGLES: Brescia (Italy), hard (indoor) - Quarter-finals

                                      CHALLENGER MEN - SINGLES: Brescia (Italy), hard (indoor) - Quarter-finals


                                      This is huge and will allow us to backtest Challenger games also!
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                                      • spankmythighs
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 01-26-10
                                        • 2884

                                        #124
                                        Nice find man! I have been testing an even/odd 2 consecutive loss and then betting. Its phenomenal!
                                        sbr
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                                        • TechnicalTrader
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 05-09-16
                                          • 1434

                                          #125
                                          Nishikori: 3-1-0


                                          2016, World Tour Finals
                                          19-10-2

                                          Original system: +31 units
                                          Revived system: +42 units
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                                          • TechnicalTrader
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 05-09-16
                                            • 1434

                                            #126
                                            Originally posted by spankmythighs
                                            Nice find man! I have been testing an even/odd 2 consecutive loss and then betting. Its phenomenal!
                                            Isn't that exactly what we are playing?
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                                            • TechnicalTrader
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 05-09-16
                                              • 1434

                                              #127
                                              Kontinen H. / Peers J.: 0-0-0
                                              Murray: 3-0-0 (Raonic had a B game score, I played it but won't add it to the tracked plays)

                                              The Murray games' score is 3-4 in the third set. i'm not taking any ore bets on that match.

                                              Reasoning behind playing a dog: 1) Raonic is an outstanding server and 2) He was dominating at the time. I considered him a fav when I took the bet.

                                              2016, World Tour Finals
                                              22-10-2

                                              Original system: +34 units
                                              Revived system: +42 units

                                              Next up:

                                              Murray / Soares
                                              Djokovic
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                                              • TechnicalTrader
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 05-09-16
                                                • 1434

                                                #128
                                                Murray / Soares: 0-2-0
                                                Djokovic: 0-0-0

                                                2016, World Tour Finals
                                                22-12-2

                                                Original system: +36 units
                                                Revived system: +49 units

                                                Up next: Djokovic
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                                                • TechnicalTrader
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 05-09-16
                                                  • 1434

                                                  #129
                                                  Here's a quick summary of yesterday's Challenger/Men's matches:

                                                  a:7-4
                                                  b:2-2
                                                  c:2-0
                                                  d:0-0

                                                  Original system: +11 units
                                                  Revived system: +14 units

                                                  I would strongly advise to only play top 150 ranked players. The rest of them are just way too unpredictable. I'd also recommend to wait for a C game and only chase twice, risking to win 4% of BR (total cash at risk will be ca. 35-40% of BR). The likelihood of these armatures to go 6 odd or even (first 4) points without scoring is slim. Playing that system, you would've been up 8 units with almost no risk. Easy money while the rest of us are working our asses off crunching NHL/NBA/NFL/etc numbers...
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                                                  • TechnicalTrader
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 05-09-16
                                                    • 1434

                                                    #130
                                                    Kontinen H. / Peers J.: 2-0-0
                                                    Klaasen R. / Ram R.: 1-1-0

                                                    I played that Klaasen/Ram B game because they were clear favorites at the time.

                                                    2016, World Tour Finals
                                                    25-13-2

                                                    Original system: +40 units
                                                    Revived system: +52.5 units

                                                    Up next; Djokovic but if Murray wins the first set, I will play both of them until one of them becomes a clear dog. Let's see if I can surpass 55 units!
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                                                    • TechnicalTrader
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 05-09-16
                                                      • 1434

                                                      #131
                                                      Bam!!!We finally got nailed! But we survived!

                                                      Djokovic: 0-1-0-1
                                                      Murray: 0-0-0

                                                      2016, World Tour Finals
                                                      25-14-2 and 1 loss

                                                      Original system: +16.94 units (1 loss = -23.06 units)
                                                      Revived system: +30.33 units (1 loss = -25.67 units)

                                                      Luckily, Djokovic was already struggling when he dropped his series which caused the odds to rise from 1.37 to 1.53. A C game loss at 1.33 would've been quite a hit.

                                                      I might set a tournament threshold, where as soon as the system hits X amount of units,I shut it down. All in all, my BR grew a little under 30%. I'm looking forward to testing some Challenger matches soon.

                                                      EDIT; see post 133
                                                      Last edited by TechnicalTrader; 11-21-16, 11:30 AM. Reason: see post 133
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                                                      • TechnicalTrader
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 05-09-16
                                                        • 1434

                                                        #132
                                                        Challenger Men, Singles; Astana2

                                                        Nishioka is rank 101 while Chen is ranked 254. I am going to play Nishioka here but wait for a B signal.
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                                                        • TechnicalTrader
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 05-09-16
                                                          • 1434

                                                          #133
                                                          After reviewing yesterday's games, I realized that I made a mistake in post 131, it turns out I played it incorrectly and there wasn't a failed bet!

                                                          Djokovic: 1-0-1-0
                                                          Murray: 0-0-0

                                                          2016, World Tour Finals
                                                          21-13-3

                                                          Original system: +37 units
                                                          Revived system: +56 units
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                                                          • TechnicalTrader
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 05-09-16
                                                            • 1434

                                                            #134
                                                            Here's a quick summary of today's Astana 2, Challanger games, where ONLY fav's would've been played:

                                                            4-3-0

                                                            Original system: +7 units
                                                            Revived system: +10.5 units

                                                            I'll play the Andria and Columbus games today and report back later. This system is up well over 100 units over the last two, three weeks. If this keeps up, I'll request to shut this thread down... LOL

                                                            Yesterday's Challenger results:

                                                            6-3-1

                                                            Original system: +10 units
                                                            Revived system: +14 units
                                                            Last edited by TechnicalTrader; 11-21-16, 11:41 AM.
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                                                            • spankmythighs
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 01-26-10
                                                              • 2884

                                                              #135
                                                              How goes it? Been super busy
                                                              sbr
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                                                              • TechnicalTrader
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 05-09-16
                                                                • 1434

                                                                #136
                                                                Going good, system seems stable.Nothing really worth posting about. I think my B bets come in on an average of every 25-30 bets which is great considering I can afford to lose one of every 12 series while getting odds around 1.4. I've noticed that playing +200 ranked players isn't really a huge issue because the odds you usually get are around 1.6. If you were to play the two game chase, you can afford to drop one of every 8 and still be up, while playing +200 ranked players.

                                                                I just strongly recommend not to play a 3 game chase with them. Just way too risky.

                                                                I'll track the Davis Cup and see how it goes.
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                                                                • TechnicalTrader
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 05-09-16
                                                                  • 1434

                                                                  #137
                                                                  Davis Cup November 2016

                                                                  November 25th:

                                                                  Cilic
                                                                  Del Porto (although I might also play Karlovic)

                                                                  November 26th:
                                                                  Odds not available yet
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                                                                  • TechnicalTrader
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 05-09-16
                                                                    • 1434

                                                                    #138
                                                                    Cilic: 2-1-0-1 (one loss,-37 units on the B bet)
                                                                    Del Porto: 0-0-0

                                                                    a) 2-2
                                                                    b) 1-1
                                                                    c) 0-1

                                                                    Original system: -34 units
                                                                    Revived system: -33.5 units

                                                                    Up next:
                                                                    Davis Cup Doubles game, odds not yet available
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                                                                    • TechnicalTrader
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 05-09-16
                                                                      • 1434

                                                                      #139
                                                                      Got bored and decided to play this system on the Nishi/Federer match. Worked like a charm and added a good 10% to BR, winning 7 chases while playing to win 1.5% / BR with each chase. Only one chase reached leg C. Here are the results, I'm done for today:

                                                                      A: 3-4
                                                                      B: 3-1
                                                                      C: 1:0
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                                                                      • exoticus
                                                                        SBR Rookie
                                                                        • 08-27-15
                                                                        • 44

                                                                        #140
                                                                        Have you done this in Murray's game today, he lost 4 straight first points on service. Doesn't this mean you would have wiped your bank?
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