Sets wagering. Something I've been noticing with some books

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  • matt1216
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 10-27-11
    • 14683

    #71
    Play # 30

    Not Fognini in 2 sets.
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    • matt1216
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      • 10-27-11
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      #72
      Originally posted by matt1216
      Play # 29 *8-0 This year

      Hass 2-0 sets 1.67


      9-0 since 1st Jan 2014
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      • matt1216
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 10-27-11
        • 14683

        #73
        Ended off the day with a win. Fogs/Chardy 3 sets, not Fognini in 2 hits.

        Today: 5-3 we were close with Giqucel but just missed.

        YTD: 21-9
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        • stepanekslips
          SBR Sharp
          • 10-18-13
          • 462

          #74
          One could say youre "SWAGering." Get it? Its a joke.
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          • matt1216
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            • 10-27-11
            • 14683

            #75
            Originally posted by stepanekslips
            One could say youre "SWAGering." Get it? Its a joke.
            Lol, thanks buddy. Hope your plays have been hitting
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            • Hardcoar
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 02-17-13
              • 15606

              #76
              Oh... now I get it! You should've used the proper grammar and gone with "SWagering".
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              • HatersGonnaHate
                SBR Wise Guy
                • 09-10-12
                • 876

                #77
                Why did you start an entire new thread and start back at zero units?
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                • matt1216
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                  • 10-27-11
                  • 14683

                  #78
                  Originally posted by HatersGonnaHate
                  Why did you start an entire new thread and start back at zero units?
                  Look at the title of the thread man.... And I didn't put a unit size on this. 90% of the plays are + money plays. 1 unit is all that's required.
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                  • SirtySree
                    SBR MVP
                    • 12-19-13
                    • 2370

                    #79
                    Just in case your wondering, the 2-0 plays that you make both ways are actually @1.5 so arent exactly worth it to be honest. Not being a hater or anything since I do follow some of your picks but just letting you know thats what books offer for game to end at 2 sets.

                    When both players are @3 to win 2-0, it may look like you're winning 1 unit if you put down 1 unit on both players but in reality, it's not because you have double chance to lose making it only a half unit play. Thought I'll just let you know to avoid any confusion.
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                    • matt1216
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                      • 10-27-11
                      • 14683

                      #80
                      Originally posted by SirtySree
                      Just in case your wondering, the 2-0 plays that you make both ways are actually @1.5 so arent exactly worth it to be honest. Not being a hater or anything since I do follow some of your picks but just letting you know thats what books offer for game to end at 2 sets.

                      When both players are @3 to win 2-0, it may look like you're winning 1 unit if you put down 1 unit on both players but in reality, it's not because you have double chance to lose making it only a half unit play. Thought I'll just let you know to avoid any confusion.
                      Ahh I think your missing the part of the over under 2.5 sets. Use this info for that. You have completely missed the point of this thread....... I've eliminated for the most part the 1set out of the 2-0 2-1 2-0 2-1..

                      Also if you take out the first set wagering, which really isn't part of this trend I'm 21-6...




                      for the or the set betting its double the chance for you to lose.... I've been watching my book closely.
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                      • matt1216
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                        • 10-27-11
                        • 14683

                        #81
                        Originally posted by matt1216
                        Play # 5

                        Not Bennateau in 3 sets. If you think Davy wins take him.

                        Play # 6

                        Granollers/Giraldo 2-0 sets for either player. Not 3 sets.

                        Play # 7

                        Lopez/Lorenzi 3 sets or Lorenzi ML


                        Play # 8

                        Roger Vasseline/pryzynsky not Roger in 3 sets.


                        Prime example, I got all these correct and it took me literally 2 mins to figure out
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                        • SirtySree
                          SBR MVP
                          • 12-19-13
                          • 2370

                          #82
                          Sorry but I don't get what ur saying in that post? =S

                          For example, Bet365 offers u2.5 sets at usually 1.5 and o2.5 at 2.25. Reason being if the odds r @3 for 2-0 both ways, you are putting down 2 units to win 1 making it @1.5, not @2.

                          Reason why I am saying this is cause you are saying your bets are majority all + money but the only ones that are + money are the 2-1 bets that u do. Then for example, Lopez/Lorenzi 3 sets or Lorenzi ML would also be close to only break even money.
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                          • SirtySree
                            SBR MVP
                            • 12-19-13
                            • 2370

                            #83
                            Roger Vasseline/pryzynsky not Roger in 3 sets.

                            That might even be a loss to be honest but I am not sure what the odds were to start with to accurately say.

                            EDIT: Actually thing back, that would be a loss since Roger won in 2 sets @2 or less if I remember. That means you lost 1 unit from the play unfortunately.
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                            • matt1216
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 10-27-11
                              • 14683

                              #84
                              Originally posted by SirtySree
                              Roger Vasseline/pryzynsky not Roger in 3 sets.

                              That might even be a loss to be honest but I am not sure what the odds were to start with to accurately say.

                              EDIT: Actually thing back, that would be a loss since Roger won in 2 sets @2 or less if I remember. That means you lost 1 unit from the play unfortunately.
                              So what u would do here is take one or the other. All I'm doing is eliminating that 4th option. If you think it out. Not Roger in 3 sets, ok, well I think Roger wins easy in two sets. Then u hit Roger in 2 sets. Sometimes I eliminate 2 sets. How about the Fognini match?? How about the Fognini match over 2.5 sets was close to 2.00 today. Just one pick there. If you read above, I mentioned take what I put on the thread and adjust it for the over/under plays. You will kill it. I understand what your saying with putting money on 3/4 options. You wouldn't make a lot.

                              Try this method for the over unders. Sometimes when I'm on the wrong side of a 2-0 sets the other guy wins 2-0 anyways, therefor the under hits.
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                              • SirtySree
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                                • 12-19-13
                                • 2370

                                #85
                                Ok I see. Just wanted to post that since I didn't want u to be losing money by getting carried away by the 21-9 record since 2-0 sets are only @1.5 so u still need to win 2 out of 3 just to break even, whereas if u just back 1 player to win 2-0 u usually only need to hit 1 out of 2 max.
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                                • matt1216
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 10-27-11
                                  • 14683

                                  #86
                                  Originally posted by SirtySree
                                  Ok I see. Just wanted to post that since I didn't want u to be losing money by getting carried away by the 21-9 record since 2-0 sets are only @1.5 so u still need to win 2 out of 3 just to break even, whereas if u just back 1 player to win 2-0 u usually only need to hit 1 out of 2 max.
                                  I've thought it through. Try the over unders, they have been working well too
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                                  • matt1216
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                                    • 10-27-11
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                                    #87
                                    Play # 31 7th Feb:

                                    Kudryatsev/Buambri 3 sets or Kudryatsev 2-1 4.50 Bhambri 2-1 4.00
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                                    • matt1216
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 10-27-11
                                      • 14683

                                      #88
                                      WTA Federation Play # 32

                                      Zakapalova 2-0 sets 2.65
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                                      • matt1216
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                                        • 10-27-11
                                        • 14683

                                        #89
                                        Play # 33

                                        Suarrez Navarro 2-0 sets 1.71
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                                        • matt1216
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                                          • 10-27-11
                                          • 14683

                                          #90
                                          Play # 34

                                          Mchale/Knapp 2-0 sets either player 3.20 each

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                                          • matt1216
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                                            • 10-27-11
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                                            #91
                                            Play # 35

                                            Hass 2-0 sets 1.67

                                            The above play was 8-0 coming into the tournament. Yesterday Hass extended the streak to 9-0. Going back to the Well with Hass here.
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                                            • matt1216
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                                              • 10-27-11
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                                              #92
                                              Play # 36

                                              Not Gasquet in 3 sets. Either gasquet 2.25 2-0 sets or Janowicz 2-1 sets 5.00
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                                              • matt1216
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                                                • 10-27-11
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                                                #93
                                                Today: 3-2 Evans ended the perfect 9-0 2-0 set streak.
                                                *1 pending play Zakapalova 2-0 2.65

                                                YTD: 24-11
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                                                • matt1216
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                                                  • 10-27-11
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                                                  #94
                                                  Play # 37

                                                  S.Johnson 2-0 sets 2.50 Jaziri 2-1 sets 5.00
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                                                  • matt1216
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                                                    • 10-27-11
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                                                    #95
                                                    Originally posted by matt1216
                                                    Play # 37

                                                    S.Johnson 2-0 sets 2.50 Jaziri 2-1 sets 5.00
                                                    Win. More plays to come later
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                                                    • matt1216
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                                                      • 10-27-11
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                                                      #96
                                                      Play #38

                                                      Bencic 2-0 3.00
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                                                      • matt1216
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                                                        • 10-27-11
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                                                        #97
                                                        Play # 39

                                                        Gasquet 2-0 @ 2.50 or Monfilis 2-1 @ 5.00
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                                                        • matt1216
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                                                          • 10-27-11
                                                          • 14683

                                                          #98
                                                          Play # 40

                                                          Kerber 2-1 @ 3.50 or Cibulkova 2-1 @ 4.50
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                                                          • matt1216
                                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                                            • 10-27-11
                                                            • 14683

                                                            #99
                                                            Play # 41

                                                            Keys 2-0 @ 3.20 or 2-1 @ 3.75
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                                                            • tipsadontlikehim
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 11-14-13
                                                              • 2569

                                                              #100
                                                              Monfils in 3 or Gasquet in 3 ?
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                                                              • SirtySree
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                                                                • 12-19-13
                                                                • 2370

                                                                #101
                                                                Originally posted by tipsadontlikehim
                                                                Monfils in 3 or Gasquet in 3 ?
                                                                his play is monfils in 3 or gasquet in 2
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                                                                • MegaSurf
                                                                  SBR Rookie
                                                                  • 10-15-13
                                                                  • 29

                                                                  #102
                                                                  GL today
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                                                                  • tipsadontlikehim
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                                                                    • 11-14-13
                                                                    • 2569

                                                                    #103
                                                                    Originally posted by SirtySree
                                                                    his play is monfils in 3 or gasquet in 2
                                                                    indeed sorry missed it
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                                                                    • matt1216
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                                                                      • 10-27-11
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                                                                      #104
                                                                      Originally posted by MegaSurf
                                                                      GL today
                                                                      Thanks man
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                                                                      • matt1216
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                                                                        • 10-27-11
                                                                        • 14683

                                                                        #105
                                                                        Originally posted by SirtySree
                                                                        his play is monfils in 3 or gasquet in 2
                                                                        Yes
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