Originally posted by Rich Boy
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Agree, the attitude is what turns me off the most. We know if he lost Tony wouldn't have said anythingComment -
After reading this joke of a thread, I will never touch 5dimes... ever!!
AND THIS TONY GUY NEEDS TO BE TAKEN OUT AND BEATEN DOWN, WHO THE FUK DO YOU THINK YOU ARE ASSHOLE???Comment -
Too much greed in this world, nothing you can do about it.Comment -
Originally posted by Rich Boy
Everyone is saying this was caught only when the player asked for his money, to be fair - ALL books work this way. The books usually send accounts over to their fraud departments for a closer look once the player asks for a withdrawal. The A+ books down to the shit books, they all do the same. They all review a players account closer once the request for a check is recieved. Not saying it's right, maybe they should evaluate incoming money as closely as they do when it's going out, but they don't. The chances of you being caught doing something wrong is much greater after you ask for a withdrawal than it is prior. Not just 5Dimes, that goes for all the books. They might catch something flagrant but for the most part your problems are going to begin once you ask for your money. To be fair we shouldn't single Tony out for something they all do.Comment -
tony was the most unprofessional book manager that i have ever had the pleasure of conversing w/ up until 2 months ago (where wagerweb dan blew that out of the water by calling me a m-fing scumbag and sbr bunch of pedophiles)
i agree though in tony's position in regards to my incident he had some cause (unlike wagerweb which had absolutely no cause), i deliberately past-posted 2 mma lines where results were already known. he then locked my acct. only after i emailed and apologized a few months later that he agreed to reinstate my acct for half of the posted limits ("if you can demonstrate that you stopped your thieving ways" i believe was the exact quote) those limits last all of 6 months until i was cut, cut again, and cut off from parlays/teasers in all.Comment -
I just going to stay away from 5dimes.....i've heard way too many complaintsComment -
So Im assuming that dude was actually paid in the end???Comment -
did anyone ever stop to think that this romaine guy could of easily called up his ex wife and told her what bets to place on her account while he placed the same bets on his account?? just because he stated she lived 200km away doesnt mean he cant call her and pull a fast one, not saying this is true just something that popped into my head.sbrComment -
Scary that 5D won the last poster's poll, must be lots of smalltimers here.
This books sucks as much as BetPhx for ppl who actually have a clue about what they bet.Comment -
Tony from 5Dimes
Has always been full of shit Period.
I know quite a few players over the years that once they start beating him good, He will either limit you down to nothing and or send you an nasty email telling you to take your money and scram.
Most above board books will let you beat them good for quite sometime as many will use your games to off-set their lines and make it back from the other side.
This is why Pinnacle still remains on the top of the pecking order they will Take all Action and never blink an eye.
5dimes is no better then going into a local Las Vegas book and after you win for 3 or 4 weeks they tell you to take your business elsewhere.
Use Matchbook ......................... All the lower Shops such as 5 dimes cater to 25 to 200.00 players at best anyone in the Thousands will have trouble right out of the gate.
Even betcris with his bullshit lines still keeps a large range of larger players due to the fact he will take the action if you have the money.
In the end its best to have several outs and rotate thru them as needed.
Its funny everyone whom wagers on sports are always looking to win but on the Flip side Winning comes with a Large price to PAY..........................
PAWComment -
With all the complaints I have read, how can these guys be a recommended book with A+ rating? I personally have never played with these guys, but from what I read on here, I never will. Thanks for the input guys and the headache I will never have from obviously a very bad book.Comment -
Well of course 5D gave him the rest of his money they really had no choice because they knew if they didn't it was gonna be the final nail in the coffin with all the other complaints about them lol. I don't bet sports for real cash much but now that I've read all the bad things about this site I will know to stay away.sbrComment -
Wow ok why is 5 dimes still an A+ book then. I only have money at a few books and was looking to expand my options. This will obv not be one of themComment -
Dimes always treated me good for several years, but I only have 1 account and try bet smart.Comment -
Customer can have ONE AND ONLY ONE IP address without prior permission from management.
What kind of bullshit is that? That is a Sporsbook.com syndrome. I can tell you- 95% rec. gamblers have their home computer with one IP address and the second one on their office desk at work where IP address is different. That is absolutely normal. So this guy tells me that when I am at office I can log in to my 5Dimes account only with management permission? WTF! And that book has A+ rating?Comment -
tony god williamsComment -
Excellent pointOriginally posted by Smurf71Comment -
stick with brick and mortar books.Comment -
That's one of the most ridiculous rules I've ever heard, nevermind that many people don't have static IP addresses.Originally posted by Smurf71Comment -
I will never play at 5dimes. Tony is an absolute scumbag.Comment -
this is like the closer rule for any book that doesnt want to pay. just bring out Mariano IP from the bullpen and its overOriginally posted by skrtelfanComment -
Thanks for the story. It helps.Comment -
why doesnt someone just go find tony and see if he lives up to all his threatsComment -
Where is Tony???Comment -
I'm sure 5 dimes would not have refunded funds if wager was lost.
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You guys do know this was a 4 year old complaint right? Book came and gone in shorter time frame than this.Comment -
I think this is a classic TONY: http://forum.bettingadvice.com/showthread.php?t=48129
Read and enjoy:
Tony: how can I help you today?
Ieva: Hello, my account is xxxxxx
Ieva: when I log in it says: your account has been disabled contact for more info
Ieva: what does that mean?
Tony: means if you don't start explaining to me just what you did and why you did it, i'll delete your account
Tony: thats what that means
Ieva: what should i explain?
Ieva: my bets?
Ieva: i'll explain everything, just tell me what?
Tony: you think about your wagers from today
Tony: think hard
Ieva: i took ~7-8 bets
Tony: and maybe you'll come up with the reason why your account is blocked
Tony: really, any of them you think i might have a problem with?
Ieva: just a second
Ieva: stuttgart already lost
Ieva: cavaliers and blazers still pending
Ieva: blazers as well
Ieva: and tucuman
Ieva: and i think i don't see one more bet
Ieva: maybe that might be the problem
Ieva: handicap on dinamo?
Ieva: a friend told me to bet everything i can on it
Ieva: so i took it at your company and couple others
Ieva: what is with that?
Ieva: was it started already?
Ieva: or was it finished?
Ieva: i see 78-48 for dinamo
Ieva: this might be it or am i wrong?
Ieva: well i am sorry if anything caused any trouble. i am simply betting with several websites that offer the picks, sometimes i do not know the teams, leagues, etc
Ieva: i simply bet what they tell me
Ieva: tell me where is the problem and how can we solve it
Tony: you know how many times i've heard "a friend told me"
Tony: did that friend bother to tell you that you were "past posting" a game that already started?
Tony: i've heard that "friend" bullshit before
Ieva: it was not a friend actually
Tony: its your account, you're responsible for it
Ieva: it was a punter
Ieva: that has his own website
Ieva: i am responsible to make bets that are online or am i wrong?
Tony: you tried to steal
Tony: whether you admit it or not
Tony: thats what you tried to do
Ieva: Tony, I am not an expert of NHL, NFL, MLB, NBA or any other basketball, I just bet what the punters say. Yes, I am totaly responsible for my account, but what did I do wrong? I log in and I bet. You decide whether it was on time or not. If not - the bet has to be voided. I really couldn't imagine this kind of situation
Ieva: I will try to make sure this won't happen in future
Tony: time was wrong on a international hoops game
Ieva: i understand that now
Tony: they moved up the start of the game and didn't inform anyone
Tony: but i think you already know that
Ieva: yes
Tony: so how much did you try to steal on this one?
Ieva: i think the max wager was 250 dollars
Tony: so you tried to steal $250
Ieva: well according to you - yes
Tony: you've read the rules about "past posting" on the site?
Ieva: not yet
Tony: i think you should read up a bit on it
Tony: because when people try to steal from me, i BITE BACK
Ieva: Tony, I think that the bookie like 5dimes can't afford such mistakes and I fully take responsibility for my actions (even though I did not have a clue about past posting or so, cause the punter told me to place money on handicap via skype and so I did). Voiding the bet or limiting account is what I usually get at other bookies.
Tony: well, at this one we do one of two things
Ieva: I just don't know what to say, I am an honest person and I do not want any angriness from any of the side
Tony: i either delete the account all together
Tony: or i take what you tried to steal
Tony: so void and $250 gone
Tony: or the account just deleted
Tony: since you're such a pro in this type of activity, now you know how i handle things
Ieva: so you are telling you are taking $250 from my account for me trying to place a bet?
Ieva: or just voiding that bet I've placed?
Tony: the void already going to happen
Tony: now i'm going even further
Tony: now i've really turned the tables, haven't i?
Tony: you would have had no problem stealing $250 from me, so why shouldn't i steal $250 from you?
Tony: or even more?
Ieva: even though i can't believe in what is happening, but if that is the case in 5dimes company then let it be. you made your point and i will have to be more careful with your company, take those 250 dollars because as i said - i don't like any conflicts with the bookiesComment -
What sort of a clown expects his customers to have a better handle on start times than he does?
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I think still this guy knew what he was doing, seemed way too innocent...but tony truly has his own way of handling situations. got 250 free there to his book.Comment -
Spoken like a true God.
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Interesting stuff for noobs like me that wasn't around here then. I like that copy and paste job of the chat with Tony and the past posting player..... Tony, really takes that hard nosed,old school Mafia approach when dealing with his clients
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Does he not know there are better books than 5 dimes+you can actually win with no hassle. He must think people cant play anywhere but 5 dimes.
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isnt this thread about multiple accounts same surenames?Comment -
i've past posted 5dimes, they limited my acct to pennies. though they didn't steal from me and was quick to process my w/ds. 1 year later i emailed tony and apologized, he cussed me out but reinstated my acct w/ half max limits. but then limited me again to pennies after i won a good bit during nfl season.
tony cracks me up but i don't think the end result was all that unfair to the punter in my case.Comment -
These offshore books can be sooo shady :-/ I'M MOVING BACK TO VEGAS!Comment
