BetIslands

[Trident]

12x rollover for a 100% freeplay is pretty steep. Rebate wager gives 8x and 10x.

If you are a new player at RW good luck finding something to bet on since they limit your options till they figure out that you are a recreational bettor. Bet Islands is a much better option.

[TheGambler]

John,

Many take the free play option and then play the 3-team parlays to capture approximately 70% of the funds and turn it into immediate cash. What is BetIslands' stance on this? In essence, this becomes a 70% cash bonus along with the 12x rollover. I'm not a fan of free plays and am looking to deposit somewhere with a cash bonus.

[cockblocker]

Only thing I don't get is if you lose the free play, you have 9x rollover on your initial deposit.

DEFINITIONS/RULES

The following terms and their respective definitions are frequently used in our Bonuses.
Rollovers are calculated based on deposit + freeplay winnings x rollover amount.

If a player deposits and loses his freeplay balance his rollover will then be calculated deposit + freeplay amount received and rollover established.

Example A: Player deposits $200 for a $200 freeplay with a 9 x rollover. The player wins $300 of the freeplay the rollover calculation would be $200 + 300 x 9 = $4500 rollover required.

Example B: Player deposits $200 for a $200 freeplay with a 9 x rollover. The player losses the freeplay the rollover calculation would be $200 + 200 x 9 = $3600 rollover required.

Basically your money is locked up if you accept the free play.

[ThaWoj]

i asked jim about this over the phone and he said something to the tune of your freeplay balance and regular balance are kept separate and u can cash out your 'regular' balance any time. but then i see the rule you posted above from their website.

this is def somethin i'd like to know as well, and i would also be interested in taking like a 20% or 30% 'cash' award instead if that rule is indeed true

[cockblocker]

i asked jim about this over the phone and he said something to the tune of your freeplay balance and regular balance are kept separate and u can cash out your 'regular' balance any time. but then i see the rule you posted above from their website.

this is def somethin i'd like to know as well, and i would also be interested in taking like a 20% or 30% 'cash' award instead if that rule is indeed true

It does'nt make any sense. If you lose the freeplay no rollover should be required. At Betjam if you won with your freeplay you just rolled that over. Doing it this way the freeplay is useless.

[Betislands]

Hi guys,

Thanks for all the feedback.

We do offer cash only bonuses of 15% to 20%.

If you take the freeplay your money is not locked up you just have more of a rollover if you take the higher bonus combination.

These rules are in place for risk management and many players achieve them without any issues it is a healthy bonus non the least 30% cash and 30% freeplays allowing parlays on the free play is a great deal.

If someone is looking for a small freeplay with lower rollover or cash only bonus we do offer that.

Please keep in mind when you redeem these bonuses you are also eligible for the free half point.

Thanks and have a good one!

Jon

[BET THE HOOK]

You can complete 10x to 12x roll in a week with no problem.

[cockblocker]

Hi guys,

Thanks for all the feedback.

We do offer cash only bonuses of 15% to 20%.

If you take the freeplay your money is not locked up you just have more of a rollover if you take the higher bonus combination.

These rules are in place for risk management and many players achieve them without any issues it is a healthy bonus non the least 30% cash and 30% freeplays allowing parlays on the free play is a great deal.

If someone is looking for a small freeplay with lower rollover or cash only bonus we do offer that.

Please keep in mind when you redeem these bonuses you are also eligible for the free half point.

Thanks and have a good one!

Jon

Thanks Jon, that sounds much better to me.

Do you cover the deposit fees as well?

[Betislands]

Hi CB,

Yes we do on anything $200 and up.

Cheers!

Jon

[TheGambler]

Hi guys,

Thanks for all the feedback.

We do offer cash only bonuses of 15% to 20%.

If you take the freeplay your money is not locked up you just have more of a rollover if you take the higher bonus combination.

These rules are in place for risk management and many players achieve them without any issues it is a healthy bonus non the least 30% cash and 30% freeplays allowing parlays on the free play is a great deal.

If someone is looking for a small freeplay with lower rollover or cash only bonus we do offer that.

Please keep in mind when you redeem these bonuses you are also eligible for the free half point.

Thanks and have a good one!

Jon

So is it safe to assume that if I take the 100% free play option, I can play 3-team parlays to guarantee myself ~70% of the free play money and turn it into cash right away? Please advise as I am interested in depositing but want to know if I will be booted after I do this.

thanks

[ABEHONEST]

Gosh, with all this free-play and candy, I'm getting a combo of guilty conscience and sick stomach.
And, I haven't even signed up yet!

[SoV]

So I decided to deposit for the first time today, and get the 100$ FP bonus:

jim: Now, I know you're an SBR member. So you know, as part of the Free Play rules, if you try the 70% guaranteed cash with parlay combinations your Bonus will be automatically forfeited.

[sean1981]

Deposited for first time this morning. Customer service (Ryan and Jim) was outstanding. Looking forward to a great football season.

[Betislands]

So is it safe to assume that if I take the 100% free play option, I can play 3-team parlays to guarantee myself ~70% of the free play money and turn it into cash right away? Please advise as I am interested in depositing but want to know if I will be booted after I do this.

thanks

Yes sir you can , and no sir you will not be booted most players actually do play parlays with their freeplay hey if you can get 3 things to happen and beat your rollover you deserve your money.

I do not boot players I do not think there is more than a handful out there, I have said it again people gamble to win not lose and hope for a bonus , we will treat you the same if you call in for a payout or a deposit our players can confirm this.

Cheers!!

Jon

[ABEHONEST]

Yes sir you can , and no sir you will not be booted most players actually do play parlays with their freeplay hey if you can get 3 things to happen and beat your rollover you deserve your money. I do not boot players I do not think there is more than a handful out there, I have said it again people gamble to win not lose and hope for a bonus , we will treat you the same if you call in for a payout or a deposit our players can confirm this. Cheers!! Jon

This is all free?

[Betislands]

I am not sure I follow Abe.

Nothing is free , I mean there is still a rollover in place what I mean is that we do not frown on a player cashing out we treat them the same as the player who is re loading.

Players bet to win not thinking of their next bonus.

Thanks!

Jon

[ttrace35]

i asked jim about this over the phone and he said something to the tune of your freeplay balance and regular balance are kept separate and u can cash out your 'regular' balance any time. but then i see the rule you posted above from their website.

this is def somethin i'd like to know as well, and i would also be interested in taking like a 20% or 30% 'cash' award instead if that rule is indeed true

I turned down a couple hundred in freeplays from ryan last week because I didn't want my real money to be tied up. I would like to know the real deal with this?

[SoV]

Yes sir you can , and no sir you will not be booted most players actually do play parlays with their freeplay hey if you can get 3 things to happen and beat your rollover you deserve your money.

I do not boot players I do not think there is more than a handful out there, I have said it again people gamble to win not lose and hope for a bonus , we will treat you the same if you call in for a payout or a deposit our players can confirm this.

Cheers!!

Jon

If you look at my post, Post #782, Jim specifically says that bonuses will be forfeited if the player does a 3-team parlay.

[Betislands]

Hi Sov,

Then either Jim was mistaken or you were misunderstood bonuses are not forfeited if you play a 3 team parlay it is listed under our website rules that they are allowed on anything -200 or +200.

Thanks!

Jon

[lolguy999]

hello betislands! just wondering, do you only have reduced juice for MLB bets? what about the upcoming NFL or college games? Are they normal -110 spread lines or also reduced juice of 10cents? Also what is the minimum age requrement? 18 or 21?

[lolguy999]

Also any good deposit options for a canadian like me?

[blanda]

Thanks for the good info!

[jonorussell]

Is this a good book for Australians? Im looking to become a first time pro at sbr.

Do they accept DC?

[GoIrish682]

doing first dep
anyone know if i can use them to go pro?

[TheGambler]

Yes sir you can , and no sir you will not be booted most players actually do play parlays with their freeplay hey if you can get 3 things to happen and beat your rollover you deserve your money.

I do not boot players I do not think there is more than a handful out there, I have said it again people gamble to win not lose and hope for a bonus , we will treat you the same if you call in for a payout or a deposit our players can confirm this.

Cheers!!

Jon

Jon, I'm sorry if I was not clear. Being an industry professional, you are probably very familiar with some guys who parlay 3 games into 8 different 3-team parlays to guarantee that one of them hits. This then guarantees they receive about 70% of the free play money directly into their cash balance. If you offer 100% freeplay and parlays are allowed, will a player be frowned upon for using this method to turn the freeplay into cash immediately. I realize the rollover still applies but wanted your thoughts on this practice. In essence, this is like offering a 70% cash bonus.

Thanks for taking the time to answer these questions and I am strongly considering making my deposit with you guys.

[cockblocker]

Jon, I'm sorry if I was not clear. Being an industry professional, you are probably very familiar with some guys who parlay 3 games into 8 different 3-team parlays to guarantee that one of them hits. This then guarantees they receive about 70% of the free play money directly into their cash balance. If you offer 100% freeplay and parlays are allowed, will a player be frowned upon for using this method to turn the freeplay into cash immediately. I realize the rollover still applies but wanted your thoughts on this practice. In essence, this is like offering a 70% cash bonus.

Thanks for taking the time to answer these questions and I am strongly considering making my deposit with you guys.

The percentage of customers that do that is so small I doub't it would hurt the book. Then the ones that actually win and meet the rollover is in the percentiles.

[BigDaddy]

The percentage of customers that do that is so small I doub't it would hurt the book. Then the ones that actually win and meet the rollover is in the percentiles.

+1


i don't see any harm in it.

it's your freeplay you should be able to use it any way you want.

[TheGambler]

The percentage of customers that do that is so small I doub't it would hurt the book. Then the ones that actually win and meet the rollover is in the percentiles.

I agree but I just wanted to make sure this would be acceptable if I go ahead and deposit there. I'm hoping that Jon can clear this up for us. Someone mentioned earlier that Betislands keeps your free play winnings separate from your cash balance. I'm not sure how this works but maybe Jon can explain in further details.

[C.S.]

You got your answer in post #784.
Keep at it and they might break out the ole' calculator.

[sean1981]

I am not sure I follow Abe.

Nothing is free , I mean there is still a rollover in place what I mean is that we do not frown on a player cashing out we treat them the same as the player who is re loading.

Players bet to win not thinking of their next bonus.

Thanks!

Jon

I'm still confused about the rollover policy.

I deposited 500, with 31 in fees, the total deposit was 531
I was awarded a deposit bonus of 110% ($550)
I took the free play money and wagered 550 to win 289 on Manchester United yesterday, which hit.

What amount do I have to rollover in order to get any of the bonus money out? If I understand the policy correctly, it would be (deposit of 531 + freeplay of 550) x 12 = 12,972.

Seems a little silly to have to rollover that amount of money to extract 2% in cash (289 is 2.25% of 12,972), not to mention my chances of making nearly 13K worth of bets on $500 are miniscule.

[wtt0315]

i was told that if your freeplay won and was less then bet amount as yours was you have to rollover freeplay amount plus deposit. if your freeplay wins you have to rollover the amount of winnings of your freeplay plus your deposit. i dont take freeplays because of that. just take the 15 percent cash with 5 x rollover its simple and easy

[spankie]

Seems a little silly to have to rollover that amount of money to extract 2% in cash (289 is 2.25% of 12,972), not to mention my chances of making nearly 13K worth of bets on $500 are miniscule.

13K worth of bets on $500 is not that hard.

[jcubs55]

Jon, I'm sorry if I was not clear. Being an industry professional, you are probably very familiar with some guys who parlay 3 games into 8 different 3-team parlays to guarantee that one of them hits. This then guarantees they receive about 70% of the free play money directly into their cash balance. If you offer 100% freeplay and parlays are allowed, will a player be frowned upon for using this method to turn the freeplay into cash immediately. I realize the rollover still applies but wanted your thoughts on this practice. In essence, this is like offering a 70% cash bonus.

Thanks for taking the time to answer these questions and I am strongly considering making my deposit with you guys.

John: If I were to take the 100% freeplay bonus, would I be able to do 8 three team parlays with the same 3 teams (all possible combinations), guaranteeing a win and essentially converting the 100% freeplay into about 70% cash?

jim: Let me check because I do believe it's not permited.
John: Okay thanks

jim: It's no problem.
jim: So long as you stick to the FP rules.
jim: The Free Play rules can be found on the website, but so you know this Free Play can be played on Straights, maximum of three teams on Parlays, two teams on Teasers and no Moneylines greater than -200/+200.

[ThaWoj]

i was told that if your freeplay won and was less then bet amount as yours was you have to rollover freeplay amount plus deposit. if your freeplay wins you have to rollover the amount of winnings of your freeplay plus your deposit. i dont take freeplays because of that. just take the 15 percent cash with 5 x rollover its simple and easy

so theres a rollover on "bonus cash" as well? is it the same thing as the FP, i.e. i deposit $200, get $30 in bonus cash. so id have to R/O 30x5=150 or 230x5=1150? Or either of those scenarios PLUS whatever my winnings are from the bonus cash 5x rollover?

little confused as i thought bonus cash would be just like real money added to your deposit. dont understand the need to roll that over (unless its just the 15% that would be needed 5x...that wouldnt be a big deal or too hard to do)

[lolguy999]

hello betislands! just wondering, do you only have reduced juice for MLB bets? what about the upcoming NFL or college games? Are they normal -110 spread lines or also reduced juice of 10cents? Also what is the minimum age requrement? 18 or 21?

Also any good deposit options for a canadian like me?

Umm.. betislands?