Matchbook - Futures not being settled as promised

[todd73nj]

Great Bill, thanks for the feedback.

From the time I started this thread, I said I was confident I would be paid by MATCHBOOK.

* What originally bothered me is how they keep changing the parameters and cant seem to get anything right. Originally they said only **********. But I under the ***** minimum. Finally they said they can process to a **** with a ****/**** ****, as I only use ****.

* Regarding the futures, First they said they would close my futures and pay me - which I went back and forth with them about in email and was completely fine with them closing them. They promised me that I would get a more than fair price.

* Then the about face - and telling me they would remain open - AND be handed off to some Antiguan agency that no one can provide any solid information about really bothered me. And that

* And to make things worse - they said at that point that only ONE withdrawal would be made at the close of my futures. So I would need to wait to get both the cash and futures at some other date.

* They then changed that policy to state that a **** withdrawal and then a second withdrawal when futures closed would be processed. **** balances would be paid out within 21 (and I assumed business days) days of the request date.

* Next they say they are not using this Antiguan Regulation thing - and passing the accounts to some lawyers to some lawyers as of March 31 instead.

* They then promised an email on April 1st with an account statement, etc. The only thing that came in that email was a new email address to contact them at, still @matchbook.com

* And then the most current comment from Matchbook telling me they can give me no time frame for when I will get the cash portion of my balance "Your withdrawal will be processed in the coming weeks. We are unable to provide an accurate time frame at the moment but rest assured you will receive your funds as soon as possible."


From the beginning, this has been nothing but a circus. This new management and their so called legal advisors dont seem to have much of a clue. Hence the reason they must have wanted an email interview with you as opposed to a direct one. Their live help and email correspondence are completely ambiguous.

I still feel I will get paid by them - but later rather than sooner. They could have done a much better job with communication - and getting ANYTHING correct without giving out false information.

Hareeba will never shut up! MATCHBOOK RULES!!!

[Hareeba!]

lol. Your words: "put up or shut up"

I have explained my position to you in relation to every issue you have raised.

You have never demonstrated where I have lied as you constantly accuse me of.

In every civilised jurisdiction I know of it is up to the accuser to put up evidence of his claims.

You've failed completely and utterly to do so.

[Hareeba!]

Hareeba will never shut up! MATCHBOOK RULES!!!

I'll shut up when you cease your ill-informed and paranoiac carry on about trivial issues.

[Thremp]

I have explained my position to you in relation to every issue you have raised. You have never demonstrated where I have lied as you constantly accuse me of. In every civilised jurisdiction I know of it is up to the accuser to put up evidence of his claims. You've failed completely and utterly to do so.

Bink. More lies. <3

[Hareeba!]

Bink. More lies. <3

okay, let's let Jason decide
put up your cash
loser has to pay for Jason's time too

[Thremp]

How much?

Lets make it worth my time. Justin btw.

[Hareeba!]

How much?

Lets make it worth my time. Justin btw.

yes, sorry Justin
$5k + cost

[wrongturn]

Could this bet end in a tie?

[todd73nj]

Hareeba will never shut up! MATCHBOOK RULES!!!

I'll shut up when you cease your ill-informed and paranoiac carry on about trivial issues.

Post #176 lists all MBs blunders. Not one of them is ill-informed. All 100% accurate with emails to prove it

[Hareeba!]

Post #176 lists all MBs blunders. Not one of them is ill-informed. All 100% accurate with emails to prove it

As I've pointed out before it is very obvious that you've never been involved in a business takeover or merger.

Things become apparent during the course which may not have been foreseen in advance when the focus is on the big picture and which then require some changes in procedures. This is perfectly normal and does not necessarily constitute a "blunder".

The MB experience has seen a few of this kind of change occcur. All minor, verging on trivial, yet you keep getting your knickers knotted over it. Grow up.

[Hareeba!]

Could this bet end in a tie?

No.

He can either prove I lied or he can't.
simple as that

[Hap]

Checked my ******* today. Good news. Evidently about half of what MB owed me has been transferred. Glad to have the nervousness behind me. I am grateful to SBR and Bill Dozer's post, which helped relieve some of my nervousness, which had built as time became long with no results from MB.

[Thremp]

yes, sorry Justin $5k + cost

I'm not looking to win/lose a unit on this. I'm not a flat bettor. 20k+cost

The standard is: "Do you exactly follow what you advise."

Alert me when you have escrow monies.

We'll both prepare arguments and he can judge them. Any tomfoolery (deletion/edits of prior posts) = insta lose.

[todd73nj]

As I've pointed out before it is very obvious that you've never been involved in a business takeover or merger.

Things become apparent during the course which may not have been foreseen in advance when the focus is on the big picture and which then require some changes in procedures. This is perfectly normal and does not necessarily constitute a "blunder".

The MB experience has seen a few of this kind of change occcur. All minor, verging on trivial, yet you keep getting your knickers knotted over it. Grow up.

Matchbook = General Electric?

Ive been involved in two books closing - and neither has been like this circus.

So what do you pay lawyers for if your orignal advice is wrong for every time you put out a memo?

Checked my **** card today. Good news. Evidently about half of what MB owed me has been transferred. Glad to have the nervousness behind me. I am grateful to SBR and Bill Dozer's post, which helped relieve some of my nervousness, which had built as time became long with no results from MB.

Wait - why did you only get half?

[Hareeba!]

I'm not looking to win/lose a unit on this. I'm not a flat bettor. 20k+cost

The standard is: "Do you exactly follow what you advise."

Alert me when you have escrow monies.

We'll both prepare arguments and he can judge them. Any tomfoolery (deletion/edits of prior posts) = insta lose.

ROFL.
Moving the goal posts I see

The issue from the very start has been that you have called me a liar.
I have challenged you to show me where and to date you have failed utterly miserably.

YOU have to make a case first.
I shall prepare a defence based on the case you make.

I don't care what kind of bettor you are . That has never been an issue.
I don't bet in your league.
$5K is more than I ever bet on anything and as much as I can afford to put up.

So it seems you are taking the cowards way out by putting it beyond my reach to prove you wrong?

[Thremp]

I'm sorry you're poor. There should be no defense actually since your posts comprise your own words and as the mediator he must determine what the meaning of them are. If you prefer, I could simply link posts with emphasis added quotes and no additional commentary. I feel they speak for themselves.

We can go with: "Has Hareeba ever lied?" No defense. Your posts speak for themselves. J7 mods. Here is the definition of lie that is most apropos: "something intended or serving to convey a false impression; imposture"

You may want to get my PM privilege re-enabled as I'd have to contact him via telepathy atm.

ETA: I like how you call me a coward for expecting someone who talks a big game to have more than a few sheckles to rub together. Then again welcome to the internet.

[Hareeba!]

I'm sorry you're poor. There should be no defense actually since your posts comprise your own words and as the mediator he must determine what the meaning of them are. If you prefer, I could simply link posts with emphasis added quotes and no additional commentary. I feel they speak for themselves.

We can go with: "Has Hareeba ever lied?" No defense. Your posts speak for themselves. J7 mods. Here is the definition of lie that is most apropos: "something intended or serving to convey a false impression; imposture"

You may want to get my PM privilege re-enabled as I'd have to contact him via telepathy atm.

ok, if they "speak for themselves" post the links which make your case so everyone can see it

what's so difficult about that?

let me answer that because I know you won't

the simple answer is that you can't because they don't exist

for the last time PUT UP OR SHUT UP

[Thremp]

Post up. 20k. Get a job or a backer.

[Hareeba!]

Post up. 20k. Get a job or a backer.

There is no point in putting up $5k, $20k or $100k unless there is a charge to defend.

You're just an obnoxious little weed.

[Hareeba!]

ETA: I like how you call me a coward for expecting someone who talks a big game to have more than a few sheckles to rub together. Then again welcome to the internet.

WTF is that supposed to mean?

the larger your bankroll the smarter you are eh?

[Hareeba!]

Matchbook = General Electric?

Ive been involved in two books closing - and neither has been like this circus.

So what do you pay lawyers for if your orignal advice is wrong for every time you put out a memo?

once again displaying rank ignorance of what happens in real life business situations

[Thremp]

There is no point in putting up $5k, $20k or $100k unless there is a charge to defend. You're just an obnoxious little weed.

Maybe you missed this part: "We can go with: "Has Hareeba ever lied?" No defense. Your posts speak for themselves. J7 mods. Here is the definition of lie that is most apropos: "something intended or serving to convey a false impression; imposture" "

Pretty explicit. I cannot contact J7 as he has asked me to never PM him again. He would have to give an exclusion for this. After some thought, since I hate money. I'll let you have 5k of my dollars. You just have to ask him to allow contact. Heck. I can even just link them in the thread as long as I can find a suitable escrow.

There is no point in putting up $5k, $20k or $100k unless there is a charge to defend. You're just an obnoxious little weed.

More name calling. Are you not going to bet me? (Shocking.)

WTF is that supposed to mean? the larger your bankroll the smarter you are eh?

Considering you position yourself as a professional and with an opinion on a for profit enterprise... obviously yes. I don't think anyone would question that the best sportsbettor is the one with the most dimes. (Unless you are deeply misled.)

Sadly I earned all mine the old fashioned way via gambling. I dunno if you moonlight as a career man or whatever. Nor do I care. I simply want to give you 5k (or 20k) of my dollars.

Just agree to the above terms, escrow up and take my money.

[Hareeba!]

Maybe you missed this part: "We can go with: "Has Hareeba ever lied?" No defense. Your posts speak for themselves. J7 mods. Here is the definition of lie that is most apropos: "something intended or serving to convey a false impression; imposture" "

Pretty explicit. I cannot contact J7 as he has asked me to never PM him again. He would have to give an exclusion for this. After some thought, since I hate money. I'll let you have 5k of my dollars. You just have to ask him to allow contact. Heck. I can even just link them in the thread as long as I can find a suitable escrow.



More name calling. Are you not going to bet me? (Shocking.)



Considering you position yourself as a professional and with an opinion on a for profit enterprise... obviously yes. I don't think anyone would question that the best sportsbettor is the one with the most dimes. (Unless you are deeply misled.)

Sadly I earned all mine the old fashioned way via gambling. I dunno if you moonlight as a career man or whatever. Nor do I care. I simply want to give you 5k (or 20k) of my dollars.

Just agree to the above terms, escrow up and take my money.

I am quite prepared to put up the money but the whole exercise is pointless if you are unable to even identify a single "lie" for me to prepare a defence. What are you expecting Justin to work on?
I'm sure he's not going to be interested in reading every post I've ever made.

No. You have to make it clear as to specifically where there is any lie in what I've posted.

[Thremp]

Yes. That is fine. You get no defense to your words. They speak for themselves. Unless you think prior annotated comments with clarification are neccessary lest you get caught "something intended or serving to convey a false impression; imposture".

Is that not suitable? I've already made a concession to "only" give away 5k (apparently you hate money).

Furthermore, why do you think your own words would need clarification if you weren't routinely conveying a false impression?

Also, why would I post shit before you put up money? Your spineless little dingo ass would just sneak away like a bitch.

[Hap]

I think the reason that I have only gotten half...so far.. has to do with the original MB proposal to credit ***** if the balance was under 10K and otherwise to do a ***. My balance was between 10K and 20K, and when the *** did not work to my bank, MB agreed to make 2 credits to my card. I was very encouraged to see at least half my balance get credited. I assume the rest will get credited soon. I have not had any communication with MB since we agreed on the *** idea on March 23. I still cannot see why it took so long, nor why the second credit has not been made. Coincidentally, I had just sent a note to Bill Dozer to see if SBR could help, but then I checked my *** balance and had to quickly pm him again that maybe its going to work out. If I do not get the other half fairly soon, then I may contact Bill Dozer again.

[Hareeba!]

Yes. That is fine. You get no defense to your words. They speak for themselves. Unless you think prior annotated comments with clarification are neccessary lest you get caught "something intended or serving to convey a false impression; imposture".

Is that not suitable? I've already made a concession to "only" give away 5k (apparently you hate money).

Furthermore, why do you think your own words would need clarification if you weren't routinely conveying a false impression?

Also, why would I post shit before you put up money? Your spineless little dingo ass would just sneak away like a bitch.

Pathetic cop out!
You can't find any "lie" and you expect Justin to trawl through 3000 posts looking for a needle in that haystack
YOU are the liar .. there is no lie in my posts and you have confirmed by this cop out that you can't find one

[todd73nj]

once again displaying rank ignorance of what happens in real life business situations

In a real life take over - if you are getting paid - they set a date and you get paid. They dont have 20 changes of plans in 30 days.

Matchbook is certainly not a fortune 500 company. They are just fortunate to still be in business!

[Hareeba!]

In a real life take over - if you are getting paid - they set a date and you get paid. They dont have 20 changes of plans in 30 days.

Matchbook is certainly not a fortune 500 company. They are just fortunate to still be in business!

simply clueless

[Thremp]

Pathetic cop out! You can't find any "lie" and you expect Justin to trawl through 3000 posts looking for a needle in that haystack YOU are the liar .. there is no lie in my posts and you have confirmed by this cop out that you can't find one

"I can even just link them in the thread as long as I can find a suitable escrow."

Apparently you missed this.

Next excuse.

[Hareeba!]

"I can even just link them in the thread as long as I can find a suitable escrow."

Apparently you missed this.

Next excuse.

LOL .. look at who's making excuses!
you mean you would put 3000+ posts into one thread ?
what difference would that make ?
I can't see Justin wanting to take on such an assignment
and the cost would eat up most or all of our stake
quite absurd
IF you have found a lie just post the relevant links and let that be your case and the money will be there

Anyone else out there found a lie which I've posted ?
Obviously this little piece of shit can't - why not help him out ?

[Domer]

why is this thread still alive?

people got paid from mb, and now its just a matter of waiting for your future bets to settle (which you would've had to do anyway).

and why would you wish ill will on mb if they're still holding some of your money todd? wouldn't you want to be conciliatory and optimistic about their future to ensure you're paid? put on your thinking cap here bud.

[Thremp]

What would you feel is an acceptable amount of links?

Are you really so naive to think I would link all of your posts?

There money is clearly not there as well. Post up you pussy dingo. lol. Oh I forgot. 5k is apparently "more than you ever bet on anything". Apparently those 8 MB withdrawals were for ******* pesos.

[Hareeba!]

What would you feel is an acceptable amount of links?

Are you really so naive to think I would link all of your posts?

There money is clearly not there as well. Post up you pussy dingo. lol. Oh I forgot. 5k is apparently "more than you ever bet on anything". Apparently those 8 MB withdrawals were for ******* pesos.

I have no way of knowing what it is you are intending to link
Just provide the links here so that we can all see
What's so much of a problem with that?
The money will be there as soon as the charge is adequately laid and Justin accepts the assignment.

And just so as to educate you Mr Knowitall, MB's withdrawal limit via Moneybookers is $2.5k per time. So 8 x $2.5k = $20k which was to reduce my balance after some nice results to what I would foreseeably need during the next couple of weeks or so. I'd have done it in one or two withdrawals if that were possible.
So now you are calling me a liar over stating that $5k is more than I ever bet?

[dialup_king]

why is this thread still alive?

people got paid from mb, and now its just a matter of waiting for your future bets to settle (which you would've had to do anyway).

and why would you wish ill will on mb if they're still holding some of your money todd? wouldn't you want to be conciliatory and optimistic about their future to ensure you're paid? put on your thinking cap here bud.

There are a bunch of people who haven't been paid their regular money. I don't have any futures and requested a withdrawal in early March and am owed over 30K.

[Thremp]

Why would I provide my case before there is a bet?

Idiocy.

I don't really care about your pocket change MB bets that I'll lose/win in an afternoon.

If you want to "PUT UP OR SHUT UP", you need to find an escrow, come up with a limit on the content of my argument, get j7 to agree, then I can present my case. You want to freeroll my argument which is laughable.

You're a busto child. Sit back down.