EasyStreet casino winner accused of using robot software

[milwaukee mike]

ok marvin that speaks quite loudly as to cory's character.
usually in a court of law, if it has been proven that you lied about something then the rest of your testimony can't be trusted and it is pretty much assumed you are lying about everything.

[pokerplayer22]

It definately goes to show that Cory has been less than truthful but by no means does it give EZ's management the right to stiff the player... hence the reason Justin and SBR has recommended that the player be paid in full.

[Justin7]

Where did the player say he deposited 10k initially?

[pokerplayer22]

Where did the player say he deposited 10k initially?

Wow...excellent point. I was looking through the entire thread and dont see it. Im not sure how we arrived at that conclusion

[Betallsports]

Wow...excellent point. I was looking through the entire thread and dont see it. Im not sure how we arrived at that conclusion

03-17-11, 06:23 PM #31 cory1111



#proMemberDisplay a ** color: blue !important; text-decoration: underline; font-weight: bold; ** #proMemberDisplay ** padding: 2px; margin-top: 2px; ** Become A Pro!
Joined: 11-19-10
Posts: 41
SBR Points: 0
Message Me


Marvin from easystreetsports.com please tell the truth

[COLOR=#000000 !important]Marvin is a liar, I never agreed to a polygraph test first of all,also sbr quote on quote said "a player does have to submit to a polygraph test to get a payout." Marvin called me several times saying I was getting paid and not to go public. They even threaten me that if i went public to SBR that I would not get paid. Marvin even called me with a witness on the phone saying he was sick to his stomach and that he was quitting his job because I was getting paid. He has to give me 2 more days and even said if his bosses knew he was calling he would be getting fired. EASYSTREETSPORTS.COM SHOULD PUT ON THIER WEBSITE THAT THEY ARE THE ONLY SPORTSBOOK THAT REQUIRES ITS PLAYERS THAT WIN TO FLY TO COSTA RICA AND TAKE A LIE DETECTOR TEST IN ORDER TO GET PAID.....I CANT BELIEVE I DEPOSITED 10,000 TO THIS COMPANY.....I AM NOT GOING TO COSTA RICA, AND EVEN SBR AGREES THAT I SHOULDNT HAVE TOO. THIS IS JUST ANOTHER EXCUSE NOT TO PAY ME....I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THEY WOULD DO TO ME IF I WENT TO COSTA RICA... I ALREADY KNOW WHAT TIME OF PEOPLE IM DEALING WITH WHO WONT PAY ME AND CONTINUE TO LIE,YET IM GOING TO FLY TO A FOREIGN COUNTRY IN ORDER TO COLLECT THE PAYOUT. EASYSTREET LIED AGAIN BECAUSE NOBODY ASKED ME TO COME DOWN THERE EXCEPT FOR EASYSTREET. SBR EVEN BELIEVES THAT ME COMING DOWN TO COSTA RICA IS ABSURD.[/color]

[WVU]

Where did the player say he deposited 10k initially?

It looks to me like everyone except the player has said this. So this guy wasn't even all that abusive. I am wondering if this was his only cashout attempt after all those deposits?


edit. I guess he did say he deposited 10k, but maybe he was including other deposits not seen on the screenshot

[WVU]

ok marvin that speaks quite loudly as to cory's character.
usually in a court of law, if it has been proven that you lied about something then the rest of your testimony can't be trusted and it is pretty much assumed you are lying about everything.

go away

[EZMARVIN]

Where did the player say he deposited 10k initially?

Marvin is a liar, I never agreed to a polygraph test first of all,also sbr quote on quote said "a player does have to submit to a polygraph test to get a payout." Marvin called me several times saying I was getting paid and not to go public. They even threaten me that if i went public to SBR that I would not get paid. Marvin even called me with a witness on the phone saying he was sick to his stomach and that he was quitting his job because I was getting paid. He has to give me 2 more days and even said if his bosses knew he was calling he would be getting fired. EASYSTREETSPORTS.COM SHOULD PUT ON THIER WEBSITE THAT THEY ARE THE ONLY SPORTSBOOK THAT REQUIRES ITS PLAYERS THAT WIN TO FLY TO COSTA RICA AND TAKE A LIE DETECTOR TEST IN ORDER TO GET PAID.....I CANT BELIEVE I DEPOSITED 10,000 TO THIS COMPANY.....I AM NOT GOING TO COSTA RICA, AND EVEN SBR AGREES THAT I SHOULDNT HAVE TOO. THIS IS JUST ANOTHER EXCUSE NOT TO PAY ME....I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THEY WOULD DO TO ME IF I WENT TO COSTA RICA... I ALREADY KNOW WHAT TIME OF PEOPLE IM DEALING WITH WHO WONT PAY ME AND CONTINUE TO LIE,YET IM GOING TO FLY TO A FOREIGN COUNTRY IN ORDER TO COLLECT THE PAYOUT. EASYSTREET LIED AGAIN BECAUSE NOBODY ASKED ME TO COME DOWN THERE EXCEPT FOR EASYSTREET. SBR EVEN BELIEVES THAT ME COMING DOWN TO COSTA RICA IS ABSURD.

Here you go.

[WVU]

Marvin, whose suggestion was it that this Cory guy fly to Costa Rica and take a polygraph?

[pokerplayer22]

Here you go.

Well he obviously did say 10k. Im not sure if he was just fuming mad (judging by typing in caps) and he just exagerated or if he thought all of his deposits added up to 10k or if he just outright lied. Personally I dont think this has anything to do with whether he should be paid or not.

[Squared Box]

How about showing the withdraw records too?

[pokerplayer22]

Also, was the last deposit the first time he supposedly used a bot...OR was he using a bot for all the previous losing deposits also...and of course EZ soaked them up for lunch without saying anything...and only said something after he won??

[EZMARVIN]

Marvin, whose suggestion was it that this Cory guy fly to Costa Rica and take a polygraph?

cory1111 offered to fly to Costa Rica and prove that he can play 5848 in 326 minutes, EZ was the one that suggested the polygraph test to assure us we can keep the game in the future without fear it had been compromised, since we removed it from the casino. I will now refrain from posting until the official statement.

[WVU]

cory1111 offered to fly to Costa Rica and prove that he can play 5848 in 326 minutes, EZ was the one that suggested the polygraph test to assure us we can keep the game in the future without fear it had been compromised, since we removed it from the casino. I will now refrain from posting until the official statement.

Do you know anything about video poker or using bots? Bot use certainly does not "compromise" the game. You may want to educate yourself a little about bots since you are trying to settle this dispute

[Justin7]

Btw, there was discussion about a polygraph. I suggested to the player that reject it, because polygraph tests are not reliable. The false positive is so high, they are not a very useful too.

[Fishhead]

1. Cory lied about depositing 10,000??.......strike one????
2. Cory used a BOT, which is illegal to do at EZ??.......strike two????



If so, hope Cory is a good two strike hitter.

[Justin7]

1. Cory lied about depositing 10,000??.......strike one????
2. Cory used a BOT, which is illegal to do at EZ??.......strike two????



If so, hope Cory is a good two strike hitter.

I suggested that Cory stop posting until EZ responds to my latest suggestion.

RE: 10k in deposits. This is not a central issue. 1. I don't believe 10k in total deposits is perfectly accurate (did he mean 10k in total deposits + freeplays?); 2. I believe EZ's summary has ommited some information, and 3. I don't believe either party is trying to mislead on that. Even if it were a central issue, it would be a non-issue.

I am not quite sure why you concluded there was a bot. There has not been much evidence offered on this, except for the speed of play, and that was not conclusive.

[Fishhead]

I suggested that Cory stop posting until EZ responds to my latest suggestion.

RE: 10k in deposits. This is not a central issue. 1. I don't believe 10k in total deposits is perfectly accurate (did he mean 10k in total deposits + freeplays?); 2. I believe EZ's summary has ommited some information, and 3. I don't believe either party is trying to mislead on that. Even if it were a central issue, it would be a non-issue.

I am not quite sure why you concluded there was a bot. There has not been much evidence offered on this, except for the speed of play, and that was not conclusive.

Did not........asked with a ????

[pokerplayer22]

I suggested that Cory stop posting until EZ responds to my latest suggestion.

RE: 10k in deposits. This is not a central issue. 1. I don't believe 10k in total deposits is perfectly accurate (did he mean 10k in total deposits + freeplays?); 2. I believe EZ's summary has ommited some information, and 3. I don't believe either party is trying to mislead on that. Even if it were a central issue, it would be a non-issue.

I am not quite sure why you concluded there was a bot. There has not been much evidence offered on this, except for the speed of play, and that was not conclusive.

Exactly...Everything EZ has accused him of is circumstantial and all guesses...nothing proven. The only fact we do 100% know if that it was been over 3 weeks of stalling a payout on EZ's part.

[stevex]

You keep thinking that pokerplayer....

[milwaukee mike]

go away

you haven't posted in a year and a half, and on your third post back you make what i consider to be one of the rudest posts i have ever read.
i made a valid point about not completely trusting anything someone says when they lie and you tell me to go away?
ridiculous

[M@ximo]

I suggested that Cory stop posting until EZ responds to my latest suggestion.

RE: 10k in deposits. This is not a central issue. 1. I don't believe 10k in total deposits is perfectly accurate (did he mean 10k in total deposits + freeplays?); 2. I believe EZ's summary has ommited some information, and 3. I don't believe either party is trying to mislead on that. Even if it were a central issue, it would be a non-issue.

I am not quite sure why you concluded there was a bot. There has not been much evidence offered on this, except for the speed of play, and that was not conclusive.

Justin, are you a mediator in this or an attorney defending & advising Cory1111?

Each time Cory1111 gets caught in a lie you seem to quickly turn it into a misunderstanding.

If I was EZ’s attorney I would advise them to put in a motion for a change of venue because it is obvious they will never get a fair shake at SBR!

[pokerplayer22]

Justin, are you a mediator in this or an attorney defending & advising Cory1111?

Each time Cory1111 gets caught in a lie you seem to quickly turn it into a misunderstanding.

If I was EZ’s attorney I would advise them to put in a motion for a change of venue because it is obvious they will never get a fair shake at SBR!

I disagree...As with every dispute. I think that Justin looks at all the facts...both pro player and pro book and makes a final decision. Ive seen him side with both the player and the book in different disputes. I still would like to know if the player was supposedly using a bot in all of his losing deposits with EZ not saying anything because he was losing???

[BigDaddy]

so can we rule out that the player had no intention of charging back

would it not be harder to charge back a ton of smaller deposits instead of just 1 large deposit?

i don't know as i have never done one but i would have to assume it would be.

also i don't see what difference it made if the OP said he deposited 100k or 1k

what does that have to do with him winning?

[sharpcat]

I disagree...As with every dispute. I think that Justin looks at all the facts...both pro player and pro book and makes a final decision. Ive seen him side with both the player and the book in different disputes. I still would like to know if the player was supposedly using a bot in all of his losing deposits with EZ not saying anything because he was losing???

I too would like to know if the player was using a bot.

I would also like to know if he was using a bot, was he the one who programmed it to play perfect strategy or if it was one of the bots that are programmed and sold by a 3rd party? In this case not only would the player not have been playing physically he also would not have been playing mentally because the bot would be following the moves of the programmer and not the player.

As you can tell I am not a fan of players using bots to take advantage of a casinos bonus because this ultimately has a negative effect on all players including those who choose to play fair, the casinos will eventually adapt and become less generous with the bonuses that they offer.


If the rules state that bots are not allowed and the casino has a valid reason to believe the player used a bot than the player should receive all funds deposited back plus/minus whatever he may have won/lost on sports bets or any other play that did not include use of a bot.

[Fishhead]

Justin, are you a mediator in this or an attorney defending & advising Cory1111?

Each time Cory1111 gets caught in a lie you seem to quickly turn it into a misunderstanding.

If I was EZ’s attorney I would advise them to put in a motion for a change of venue because it is obvious they will never get a fair shake at SBR!

Why is RX not involved in this dispute?

EZ is an advertiser there, and it seems like SBR and RX should be working together on what has become a difficult dispute.

[WVU]

you haven't posted in a year and a half, and on your third post back you make what i consider to be one of the rudest posts i have ever read.
i made a valid point about not completely trusting anything someone says when they lie and you tell me to go away?
ridiculous

sorry. You are right, it was rude

[WVU]

I did not want to post until the statement from EZ Street was released, however I want to help cory1111 with some facts since he has a hard time telling the truth. You never sent $10,000 as you continuously claim you have, your deposits came to a total of $2730 as shown below:

Account Date Method Cash Bonus

PA1032 Nov-30-2010 CASH BONUS 0 100
PA1032 Jan-15-2011 ** 250 250
PA1032 Feb-01-2011 ** 200 200
PA1032 Feb-08-2011 ** 215 0
PA1032 Feb-08-2011 CASH BONUS 0 215
PA1032 Feb-09-2011 ** 215 215
PA1032 Feb-10-2011 ** 300 300
PA1032 Feb-11-2011 ** 350 350
PA1032 Feb-26-2011 ** 250 250
PA1032 Feb-27-2011 ** 230 230
PA1032 Feb-27-2011 ** 225 225
PA1032 Feb-28-2011 ** 220 220
PA1032 Feb-28-2011 ** 275 275

2,730 2830

The $461 entered in your account on Jan-9-2011 and played, will not show here since that was a transaction YOU CANCELLED, which we gave you as an adjustment. I hope this helps you a bit cory1111. SBR is free to confirm this information requesting his unedited account history or visiting us to make sure this information is accurate, since our offices are 5 minutes apart. Sorry about posting this before the resolution statement, it will be posted later today after the Legal Dept. reviews Justin's suggestions.

ok here is my input on this post. The multiple deposits over several weeks clearly tells us that the player was not intending to charge back or free roll this casino. The small deposits also tells this bot veteran that using a bot would be silly for such small bankrolls, especially if he was playing at $25 a hand. -20 units and both deposit and bonus are gone.

Since using a bot is what is keeping EZStreet from paying this player then they better have evidence that he used one. The post above hurts EZstreet's case for sure.

[pokerplayer22]

so can we rule out that the player had no intention of charging back

would it not be harder to charge back a ton of smaller deposits instead of just 1 large deposit?

i don't know as i have never done one but i would have to assume it would be.

also i don't see what difference it made if the OP said he deposited 100k or 1k

what does that have to do with him winning?

I think all of the deposits were made via cash....but Im not positive...but if this is the case there is obviously no chance of any chargebacks

[Fishhead]

ok here is my input on this post. The multiple deposits over several weeks clearly tells us that the player was not intending to charge back or free roll this casino. The small deposits also tells this bot veteran that using a bot would be silly for such small bankrolls, especially if he was playing at $25 a hand. -20 units and both deposit and bonus are gone.

Since using a bot is what is keeping EZStreet from paying this player then they better have evidence that he used one. The post above hurts EZstreet's case for sure.

Excellent points......not conclusive, but very excellent points to consider.

[Squared Box]

Why is RX not involved in this dispute?

EZ is an advertiser there, and it seems like SBR and RX should be working together on what has become a difficult dispute.

The Rx would be the last place I'd go if I had a dispute with one of their advertisers.

[Bartmeister]

I think all of the deposits were made via cash....but Im not positive...but if this is the case there is obviously no chance of any chargebacks

Brings up a question I'd like to ask Marvin, What is the $461 transaction that was canceled? Is it a CC **********? Or was it a an ach or even a **/** deposit that was canceled?

[Bartmeister]

I did not want to post until the statement from EZ Street was released, however I want to help cory1111 with some facts since he has a hard time telling the truth. You never sent $10,000 as you continuously claim you have, your deposits came to a total of $2730 as shown below:

Account Date Method Cash Bonus

PA1032 Nov-30-2010 CASH BONUS 0 100
PA1032 Jan-15-2011 ** 250 250
PA1032 Feb-01-2011 ** 200 200
PA1032 Feb-08-2011 ** 215 0
PA1032 Feb-08-2011 CASH BONUS 0 215
PA1032 Feb-09-2011 ** 215 215
PA1032 Feb-10-2011 ** 300 300
PA1032 Feb-11-2011 ** 350 350
PA1032 Feb-26-2011 ** 250 250
PA1032 Feb-27-2011 ** 230 230
PA1032 Feb-27-2011 ** 225 225
PA1032 Feb-28-2011 ** 220 220
PA1032 Feb-28-2011 ** 275 275

2,730 2830

The $461 entered in your account on Jan-9-2011 and played, will not show here since that was a transaction YOU CANCELLED, which we gave you as an adjustment. I hope this helps you a bit cory1111. SBR is free to confirm this information requesting his unedited account history or visiting us to make sure this information is accurate, since our offices are 5 minutes apart. Sorry about posting this before the resolution statement, it will be posted later today after the Legal Dept. reviews Justin's suggestions.

If this cancelled transaction is your basis for not paying this player, then why would you accept his later deposits? That would mean you were just freerolling the player.

[SBR_John]

Justin,
This thread is nearing post #300. I think there are many of us checking in but do not know where things stand. Can you give us a brief summary where we are currently?

[milwaukee mike]

sorry. You are right, it was rude

thanks wvu you are a class act.

many of us here have been no-paid, slow-paid, etc because of disputes like this one so there is a high level of interest in this case to be sure and we all should be allowed to have an opinion on the matter. more than a couple of times i have needed sbr's backing.
but also on the flip side more than a few times we have heard stories from posters getting stiffed where the poster wasn't being entirely truthful or forthcoming. that was the primary reason for my posting on the subject, i am curious as to how many places he has been banned from in the past but again that's no reason for him not to be paid.