EasyStreet casino winner accused of using robot software

[Betallsports]

and I am NOT a arbitrator at The RX, I'm just a Mod...and run some Contests.

wilheim is the only one that handles Sportsbook disputes at the RX.

[Justin7]

The player spoke with me. He states that he did not request TheRX to mediate or arbitrate, and he does not agree to that.

[HedgeHog]

Good stuff EZSTREET.

Again, a solid book that has great CS.

STFU. Is it difficult to type and blow EZ at the same time?

[Fishhead]

I have known WILHEIM for close to 10 years................he is as honorable as they come.


As with almost any difficult dispute, everyone just needs to take a deep breath and let all the facts be analyzed and reviewed.

MANY, MANY more times than not, dispute resolution involving SBR and/or RX results in a very honorable result.


Be thankful for guys like JUSTIN/WALKER/DOZIER of SBR and WILHEIM and others at TheRX............everyone on this side of the counter is better off because of them.

FH

[WVU]

and for the Record.... My Very First post when i First heard of this was, A LOT more to this story

and never called the player a Scammer.

you made several inferences across the street that the guy was indeed a scammer. You cannot possibly be impartial at this point.

[sharpcat]

The player spoke with me. He states that he did not request TheRX to mediate or arbitrate, and he does not agree to that.

first of all i dont need to explain to u sharpcat, but for ur info,never made an initial deposit of 10,000. that was over time just in 250 increments(all cash deposits-risk free)... i was getting 100% bonus cash on each deposit for ur info.(12x rollover-sportsbook) 25x rollover in casino) My largest deposit with them was 500 doll. ,u have to be an idiot to deposit 10,000 to anyone,also many sportsbooks wont take it. and for northbet i was paid everything i was owed,but that has nothing to do with this case. so again get ur facts straight please. the truth will come out soon.....
OH AND ALL 4 SPORTS MONITORS ARE AWARE OF SITUATION AND INVOLVED IN SOME WAY.....( SBR, RX,COVERS, AND DONBESTSPORTS)

It actually appears he recruited the services of TheRX, SBR, Covers, and DonBest.

So who gets to choose here?

Does the player now get to choose to go with SBR now that he is aware that SBR is likely to side with him?

Or

Does the book get to choose to allow the RX to arbitrate because they are sponsors there and are not happy with SBR's decision?

This has turned into a mess now we are possibly going to need a 3rd party to arbitrate

[WVU]

I have known WILHEIM for close to 10 years................he is as honorable as they come.


As with almost any difficult dispute, everyone just needs to take a deep breath and let all the facts be analyzed and reviewed.

MANY, MANY more times than not, dispute resolution involving SBR and/or RX results in a very honorable result.


Be thankful for guys like JUSTIN/WALKER/DOZIER of SBR and WILHEIM and others at TheRX............everyone on this side of the counter is better off because of them.

FH

You don't see a conflict of interest for Wil to be handling anything about this case? Wil has shown he will edit posts and ban posters when it comes to Rx sponsors. He couldn't possible rule on this without bias

[BrianLaverty]

What a joke


EZStreet doesn't like the resolution they get from SBR.... so instead, they go to there ADVERTISER to be the arbitrator?

WHat a fuckin joke the offshore industry has turned into, and books like this can get away with stealing almost 50k.

SMH.

I will put it at -1000 that Cory does not see more then 10,000 dollars.... and thats being generous.

[secretstash]

Not shocked coming from a POS like you....

First off, people like to pick on Wilhelm ...and the guy Never Posts at ANY other Forums... But then you have to read Lies like the one above.

And Again More lies..saying I called this guy a Scammer.............. I'll UP My Offer Lair.... $200
Show me where I posted the guy is a Scammer

Calm down brah.. BetALL.. u definitely go to the defense of a book when something comes up. I will say that. HOWEVER.. this guy is probably a past scammer of a book and I think that this poster in particular has a sour side with u as it is and is calling u and wil out on this matter when really it was his matter that he is ticked about... in this particular case I have only seen wil defend the honor of easystreet and not u so the poster has ZERO grounds to say u bashed the cory guy. I think in the end wil will be very fair in his decision...not just fair to the book, but also will have lots to explain and answer to the forums and that makes a decision very difficult to not be biased towards either party.

BetALL and Wil and SBR for having this thread so we can see what happens with easystreet and how they end up solving this case.

-stash

[Bartmeister]

I have known WILHEIM for close to 10 years................he is as honorable as they come.


As with almost any difficult dispute, everyone just needs to take a deep breath and let all the facts be analyzed and reviewed.

MANY, MANY more times than not, dispute resolution involving SBR and/or RX results in a very honorable result.


Be thankful for guys like JUSTIN/WALKER/DOZIER of SBR and WILHEIM and others at TheRX............everyone on this side of the counter is better off because of them.

FH

Fish, But even so though, don't you think there is a conflict of interest? Now, if it is already decided to pay, then its all good for the player of course, lol. Reminds me of lawsuits involving the same insurance companies, happens all the time, but makes you wonder if you are being represented 100% impartially.

[Fishhead]

You don't see a conflict of interest for Wil to be handling anything about this case? Wil has shown he will edit posts and ban posters when it comes to Rx sponsors. He couldn't possible rule on this without bias

WVU, can understand that to a very, very, very small degree.......but with disputes of this matter, fully confident in Wils decisions on the matter.

Again, everyone needs to keep a level head here and try to abstain from even the slightest mudslinging which as you know sometimes happens in these cases.

Look at the opposite side of the coin, you have SBR ruling an issue with a rivial forum where EZ advertises..........so in theory, in could be said SBR biased against Easystreet sports.

Like I stated, I think its best for ALL parties to have JUSTIN/DOZIER/WILHEIM/BETALLSPORTS.......all work together on this.........no reason they cannot all discuss this together as this will produce the most overall unbiased result.

If SBR/RX cannot work as a team, that would be very disheartening for all of us on this side of the counter.

[Betallsports]

you made several inferences across the street that the guy was indeed a scammer. You cannot possibly be impartial at this point.

Never said the Player was a Scammer, Never called him a Scammer....

said there was more the story, and I am Sure there is.

[HedgeHog]

I have known WILHEIM for close to 10 years................he is as honorable as they come.


As with almost any difficult dispute, everyone just needs to take a deep breath and let all the facts be analyzed and reviewed.

MANY, MANY more times than not, dispute resolution involving SBR and/or RX results in a very honorable result.


Be thankful for guys like JUSTIN/WALKER/DOZIER of SBR and WILHEIM and others at TheRX............everyone on this side of the counter is better off because of them.

FH

WTF, Fishy? You don't understand how $$$ can influence honorable people to do shady things? Wilheim works for RX now and EZ advertises there....do the math.

Need another example? The honorable SBR is the the best rating service around, but they had BetPhoenix at a B+ up until the ad money dried up.

Still think RX's Wilheim will decide this matter fairly?

[secretstash]

Here is all that I have seen wilheim post on this matter... and although he didnt call the guy a scammer he did say there is a lot more to the story and said "Believe what you want but if I was free to disclose all the details involved here you definitely would change your opinion.." This could be understood as (this guy is a scammer) but I dont think it was said, nor meant that way...but if BETALLSPORTS wants to ship me $200 I will gladly take it

LOL

Doug's statement is completely one sided and has no basis in what really happened to create the problem or the person involved in this issue. I am not going into details here and now but when the matter is settled if the situation calls for it I will..

I will just say there is lot more to this Video Poker dispute than meets the eye. I have discussed the matter with Rx management and numerous GMs at various books that are familiar with the player involved. Easystreet has invited me to visit their shop to view all evidence involved and are being very transparent about the entire matter..

Believe what you want but if I was free to disclose all the details involved here you definitely would change your opinion..


Thank you, wilheim

[WVU]

How about letting Peep or Reagan rule on this? They don't have any sponsors

[Fishhead]

Never said the Player was a Scammer, Never called him a Scammer....

said there was more the story, and I am Sure there is.

That's why everyone needs to keep their cool, and why there should be no super rush to rule on this............take your time, anlayze all the facts and what everyone wants to present in terms of evidence and make a final ruling involving as many qualified mediation members as possible.

[Fishhead]

WTF, Fishy? You don't understand how $$$ can influence honorable people to do shady things? Wilheim works for RX now and EZ advertises there....do the math.

Need another example? The honorable SBR is the the best rating service around, but they had BetPhoenix at a B+ up until the ad money dried up.

Still think RX's Wilheim will decide this matter fairly?

Again, I'm calling for as many mediation members as possible..........NOT JUST THE RX, NOT JUST SBR, NOT JUST SO AND SO..........no reason why all can't work together.

HOW THE FUK HARD IS IT FOR EVERYONE TO GET ALONG?????

GEEZUS

I know for a fact that all at SBR and TheRX are good people..............no reason just ONE of these sites need to make a ruling here, thats absurd.

[SBR_John]

TheRx and Ez would be smart to let someone neutral mediate this. This is lose-lose for them. They could bring The General out of retirement as one option or choose a well regarded poster like maybe Peep or Halifax.

While BetAll and Wil have not called the player a scammer verbatim they have made numerous posts indicating they have information that the player is guilty of something. If they rule in favor of the book it will be seen as a coordinated conspiracy.

[Betallsports]

Calm down brah.. BetALL.. u definitely go to the defense of a book when something comes up. I will say that. HOWEVER.. this guy is probably a past scammer of a book and I think that this poster in particular has a sour side with u as it is and is calling u and wil out on this matter when really it was his matter that he is ticked about... in this particular case I have only seen wil defend the honor of easystreet and not u so the poster has ZERO grounds to say u bashed the cory guy. I think in the end wil will be very fair in his decision...not just fair to the book, but also will have lots to explain and answer to the forums and that makes a decision very difficult to not be biased towards either party.

BetALL and Wil and SBR for having this thread so we can see what happens with easystreet and how they end up solving this case.

-stash

I still can't find a post where Wil says anything about this, moreso anything about calling the player a scammer

[Fishhead]

TheRx and Ez would be smart to let someone neutral mediate this. This is lose-lose for them. They could bring The General out of retirement as one option or choose a well regarded poster like maybe Peep or Halifax.

While BetAll and Wil have not called the player a scammer verbatim they have made numerous posts indicating they have information that the player is guilty of something. If they rule in favor of the book it will be seen as a coordinated conspiracy.

Well if Wilheim states and proves the player is guilty of something, let him present the facts.

Cut WIL some slack John..........geezus, RX doesnt need EZ advertising money that bad.

CMON GUYS, WE ARE NOT DEALING WITH NFL LOCKOUT ISSUES HERE.............WORK TOGETHER........TALK TO EACH OTHER.

[Betallsports]

Here is all that I have seen wilheim post on this matter... and although he didnt call the guy a scammer he did say there is a lot more to the story and said "Believe what you want but if I was free to disclose all the details involved here you definitely would change your opinion.." This could be understood as (this guy is a scammer) but I dont think it was said, nor meant that way...but if BETALLSPORTS wants to ship me $200 I will gladly take it

LOL

HaHa, he did say Scammer

[Bartmeister]

Maybe a forum that accepts No advertising dollars could weigh in. I vote for Peep!

[Betallsports]

TheRx and Ez would be smart to let someone neutral mediate this. This is lose-lose for them. They could bring The General out of retirement as one option or choose a well regarded poster like maybe Peep or Halifax.

While BetAll and Wil have not called the player a scammer verbatim they have made numerous posts indicating they have information that the player is guilty of something. If they rule in favor of the book it will be seen as a coordinated conspiracy.

John, Understood ... but Please leave out the "They" as I do not handle Disputes
I did however handle 2 in the 2 years as a Mod, and only because I have close ties to that Book.
EZ, is Not the Book

[Betallsports]

How about letting Peep or Reagan rule on this? They don't have any sponsors

um, they have 5 Sponsors... but none of them are Ez

[Fishhead]

Maybe a forum that accepts No advertising dollars could weigh in. I vote for Peep!

Why does it have to be another FORUM????

How about reputable anyone???..........

Just because Joe Slow runs a forum they are qualified to make a decision?????


TheRX and SBR are the best dispute specialists in the business and have proven this for years and years.

[HedgeHog]

Well if Wilheim states and proves the player is guilty of something, let him present the facts.

Cut WIL some slack John..........geezus, RX doesnt need EZ advertising money that bad.

CMON GUYS, WE ARE NOT DEALING WITH NFL LOCKOUT ISSUES HERE.............WORK TOGETHER........TALK TO EACH OTHER.

Do you actually believe the crap you type? The fact that EZ pays RX anything should eliminate their employees from deciding the matter. Wilheim should bow out for the sake of fairness and transparency. How difficult is this to understand?

[WVU]

um, they have 5 Sponsors... but none of them are Ez

I don't see any on the front page or the forum front page but maybe I am not looking correctly?

[Fishhead]

Do you actually believe the crap you type? The fact that EZ pays RX anything should eliminate their employees from deciding the matter. Wilheim should bow out for the sake of fairness and transparency. How difficult is this to understand?

In case you don't know, was a mod at TheRX for two years and worked on quite a few disputes.......with Wilheim on many.

More than a few times we did disputes against an advertiser book and ruled in favor of the PLAYER.............

Now please, stop slinging arrows and pretending to know something about an individual(wilheim) that you have no inclination whatsoever about.

[HedgeHog]

I have nothing bad to say about Wilheim--don't know him. My issue is about CONFLICT OF INTEREST. How about addressing this matter instead of making it a personality issue. Don't let the facts get in the way of your opinion.

[Fishhead]

I have nothing bad to say about Wilheim--don't know him. My issue is about CONFLICT OF INTEREST. How about addressing this matter instead of making it a personality issue. Don't let the facts get in the way of your opinion.

Ok

But by the same token, if SBR is the ONLY mediation, could it not be said they are biased against Eaststreet because they advertise at TheRX and not at SBR.............just sayin AND asking?


I just cannot understand why both forums, the two best forums for disputes in the business, cannot work together.


Thats all pal, just hope the right decision is made.

Peace

[HedgeHog]

Ok

But by the same token, if SBR is the ONLY mediation, could it not be said they are biased against Eaststreet because they advertise at TheRX and not at SBR.............just sayin AND asking?


I just cannot understand why both forums, the two best forums for disputes in the business, cannot work together.


Thats all pal, just hope the right decision is made.

Peace

At least we agree on this. What bugs me the most is that SleazyStreet jumped at the chance to have RX decide the case. $46,000 buys a lot of advertising...I'm just saying. Also, EZ already knows Justin's ruling on the matter and have rejected it. Now they're looking elsewhere for a more favorable ruling. How convenient they chose ad buddy RX!

[EZMARVIN]

I will just say this , I did not make Wilheim, the mediator in this matter,nor commited to taking a polygraph test. Its very easy for easystreetsports.com to assign Rx to the situation when Rx sponsors them. Obviously i am being set up for failure ,regarding the polygraph test and asking to play 5 hrs of perfect play nonstop. I would def. like to see the transcript of my play when i hit the 3 royals. I have requested that along with SBR several times and has not been received.

cory1111 never once did you or Justin asked me for any information, play log, deposits or any other information. Justin only asked me about our decision where I told him it would be ready in 48 hours, that was when I told him you did not deposit $10,000 but a lesser amount sent in multiple transactions, which coincidentally you posted after I spoke to him, and even then he did not request any other form of information. Justin was invited to our offices a mere 5 minutes away, which he never accepted. Any information you require can be had from the agreed mediator.

[tomcowley]

Justin doesn't live in Costa Rica you stupid ****.

[HedgeHog]

cory1111 never once did you or Justin asked me for any information, play log, deposits or any other information. Justin only asked me about our decision where I told him it would be ready in 48 hours, that was when I told him you did not deposit $10,000 but a lesser amount sent in multiple transactions, which coincidentally you posted after I spoke to him, and even then he did not request any other form of information. Justin was invited to our offices a mere 5 minutes away, which he never accepted. Any information you require can be had from the agreed mediator.

Who you pay.

[PoweRay]

It does suck that in this unregulated industry any book can basically say- Screw you, we are a deposit only book and we aren't paying you! And our only recourse is to complain on these forums.