Bet Phoenix STEALS AGAIN

Thremp · 10-22-10, 10:05 AM

I'm honestly curious what details Dozer needs or if just wants to come in here and nutride his golden goose, while simultaneously insulting me.

HedgeHog · 10-22-10, 10:11 AM

I would seriously consider not filing the complaint. Even if you win, you may end up getting limited. I guess it depends on how valuable an out BP is to you. Just my 2 cents; GL either way.

Thremp · 10-22-10, 10:13 AM

I'm already limited/delayed/etc. Now they're stealing. Looks like they're learning from Jazette. Can't beat em? Rob em.

GRUMPERZ · 10-22-10, 01:54 PM

Hey Bill,

Can I file a complaint about SBR STEALING ~$10,000 from me? Your employees: Lou, and John both seem to think "Let bygones be bygones" is an acceptable answer. If I file one, who is gonna handle it???

ForgetWallStreet · 10-22-10, 01:57 PM

The addition of this tactic to their arsenal is a good indication that they are tired of paying people 4K every 7-21 days.

C.S. · 10-22-10, 03:16 PM

Thremp,
I wish you would save some of this fire and take it to your blog, you don't post there enough anymore.

KGambler · 10-22-10, 03:57 PM

Originally posted by Thremp

I'm honestly curious what details Dozer needs or if just wants to come in here and nutride his golden goose, while simultaneously insulting me.

It could be argued that he needs you to file a complaint in order to take the time to look into it. I don't buy that argument however. He could clearly save everyone involved some time by answering one very simple question:

Is it OK for a book to cancel a SFG +2.5 -220 bet which was placed at a time Pinnacle had PHI -2.5 +227?

If he thinks it is OK for a book, or more specifically one of his sponsoring books, to do this, then there would be no point in filing a complaint. If he sees a problem with it, then Thremp should go ahead and take the time to file a detailed complaint.

One thing I am sure of is that even if a complaint were filed, you would never read about it on SBR's front page. It is very clear that SBR has an agreement with favored sponsored BP to NOT display customer complaints against BP on the front page. BP has had many serious complaints lodged against them, but none of them have appeared on the front page. Meanwhile, any minor complaint against a non-sponsor is enough to make the front page.

Thremp · 10-22-10, 09:40 PM

Bump for Dozer since he appears to be confused or lazy.

GRUMPERZ · 10-22-10, 11:15 PM

Bump for Dozer since the rest of the SBR staff chooses to ignore me.

cala56 · 10-22-10, 11:23 PM

i hate betphoenix. is the worst sportsbook

IrishTim · 10-22-10, 11:24 PM

Originally posted by Thremp

What is an obvious bad line?

Aren't all lines I bet obviously bad? Why would I place a -EV bet?

Betting Ohio St. +42 when everyone else has Ohio St. -42 is an obvious bad line. But I'll never buy into the idea that it's okay for books to cancel a -220 when they retroactively decide that -290 is the right price.

Justin7 · 10-22-10, 11:49 PM

Thremp,

If you haven't filed a complaint, consider doing so. I don't know how closely BP watches these forums. If you want SBR to take a swing at it, we at least need your account ID.

mrmarket · 10-23-10, 09:30 AM

Very poor conduct on the part of the book.

And lol @ anyone saying this isn't blatant theft. Retroactive cancellation of bet if a winner is the definition of a freeroll. Thremp's intentions when placing the bet are also are irrelevant.

I can understand the skepticism with submitting the complaint with SBR due to the advertising relationship. You should do it anyway because they might want to save face. Besides, you have no other recourse available.

Thremp · 10-23-10, 10:33 AM

Originally posted by Justin7

Thremp, If you haven't filed a complaint, consider doing so. I don't know how closely BP watches these forums. If you want SBR to take a swing at it, we at least need your account ID.

Why did Dozer say I could just post the details here? I'm confused.

Did he just want to insult me?

What about the SBR book robbery?

betphoenix · 10-23-10, 10:48 AM

Thremp,

I happen to agree with you here. Send me your account number to Richard@Betphoenix.com.

Thanks

Thremp · 10-23-10, 11:05 AM

Richard,

Good to hear.

AimingHigh · 10-23-10, 12:16 PM

Good work, Richard. If you get a result, Thremp, it might be worth updating the OP for people who don't read threads in their entirety.

GRUMPERZ · 10-23-10, 01:09 PM

AM i INVISIBLE???

Thremp · 10-23-10, 01:19 PM

Richard credited me $250 dollars. While a clearly a bribe to make me stfu, I will accept it and stfu, since I'm easily bought.

AimingHigh · 10-23-10, 01:22 PM

Grumperz, I think your post was overlooked because it's not about Thremp's BetPho problem. It might help if you create a separate thread, explaining exactly how SBR stole from you - on the face of it, that appears impossible, given that they don't have anyone's cash and, to the extent they help you get $$ from cheating etc. sportsbooks, they provide that service for free.

betphoenix · 10-23-10, 01:41 PM

Bribe? Does it always need to be negative? Have a nice day guys.

Thremp · 10-23-10, 01:47 PM

Originally posted by betphoenix

Bribe? Does it always need to be negative? Have a nice day guys.

Did you credit everyone or just the person who made the thread?

I'd prefer in justice for all. But I'll settle for justice for me.

betphoenix · 10-23-10, 02:07 PM

All are handled at the -220 number.

Thremp · 10-23-10, 02:58 PM

Welp, I retract my previous comment. My bad. Guess there is justice for all.

HedgeHog · 10-23-10, 03:01 PM

Originally posted by Thremp

Richard credited me $250 dollars. While a clearly a bribe to make me stfu, I will accept it and stfu, since I'm easily bought.

Glad you got paid, even if you think it's a bribe. I'll say it for you: "Thanks, Richard".

betphoenix · 10-23-10, 03:50 PM

Hedge...I appreciate the thanks and the positivity you are adding here. I wish there was more conducive, positive, and open criticism here rather than just direct negativity, but it was our error to begin with. However, it was not a bribe either.

HedgeHog · 10-23-10, 04:19 PM

Originally posted by betphoenix

Hedge...I appreciate the thanks and the positivity you are adding here. I wish there was more conducive, positive, and open criticism here rather than just direct negativity, but it was our error to begin with. However, it was not a bribe either.

I'm guilty of posting negative comments in the past as well (re: slow pay), but I am truly impressed with the way you dealt with this situation. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt next time.

Thremp · 10-23-10, 04:51 PM

Originally posted by betphoenix

Hedge...I appreciate the thanks and the positivity you are adding here. I wish there was more conducive, positive, and open criticism here rather than just direct negativity, but it was our error to begin with. However, it was not a bribe either.

To be clear, I didn't realize you had corrected the error for everyone. I thought it was just me because I complained.

HedgeHog · 10-23-10, 07:03 PM

Originally posted by Thremp

Richard credited me $250 dollars. While a clearly a bribe to make me stfu, I will accept it and stfu, since I'm easily bought.

Good advice.

calm · 10-26-10, 05:40 AM

Free Grumperz!!!

tommygun · 10-26-10, 08:04 AM

interesting thread to read, good outcome for all.

cint2cint · 10-26-10, 08:17 AM

I don't understand why BetPhoenix so high rated

Dark Horse · 10-26-10, 03:06 PM

Probably a few ghosts in this thread.

Anyway, typical thread that adds nothing, by a guy who adds nothing, who wanted something for nothing.

The scalper got cheated because he bet into a bad line. If the bet had just been canceled he would not have posted about it, but he lost money because of the scalp. So he pours it into this form because he knows there are enough people here who will jump on the anti-book bandwagon and not see straight through his silly attempt at revenge.

He wants negative publicity. If it was about money, he would have filed a complaint already.

Thremp · 10-26-10, 03:16 PM

Originally posted by Dark Horse

Probably a few ghosts in this thread. Anyway, typical thread that adds nothing, by a guy who adds nothing, who wanted something for nothing. The scalper got cheated because he bet into a bad line. If the bet had just been canceled he would not have posted about it, but he lost money because of the scalp. So he pours it into this form because he knows there are enough people here who will jump on the anti-book bandwagon and not see straight through his silly attempt at revenge. He wants negative publicity. If it was about money, he would have filed a complaint already.

How do you know I'm a scalper currently? I'm interested in your mind reading powers.

Why would I file a complaint? Dozer said I could post my information publicly but has run off after I said I would. Furthermore, Richard has already addressed this issue to a superior level of satisfaction (And hopefully this will never occur again).

Are you just interested in casting aspersions much like Dozer?

Monte · 10-26-10, 03:19 PM

Originally posted by Dark Horse

Probably a few ghosts in this thread.

Anyway, typical thread that adds nothing, by a guy who adds nothing, who wanted something for nothing.

The scalper got cheated because he bet into a bad line. If the bet had just been canceled he would not have posted about it, but he lost money because of the scalp. So he pours it into this form because he knows there are enough people here who will jump on the anti-book bandwagon and not see straight through his silly attempt at revenge.

He wants negative publicity. If it was about money, he would have filed a complaint already.

Your post doesn't add much either, a bet is a bet...it doesnt mean jack if it comes from a scalper or not, you book it you honor it