Where you make up those payout times? The same version where taking equity in your bets isn't stealing?
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Personal experience. My last two checks took 3 weeks each.Comment -
Didn't know they issued five figure checks now. Thanks!Comment -
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They are really going downhill after starting out with such a bang...I think they put a softline up not an error and got hammered. The only thing that is bad about it, is that it is bad for them.Comment -
Thremp,
Why don't you save some in case you don't like the result after we look into your complaint.
If you do intend to submit your complaint, and aren't just waiting for the game to end, please include the time of the bet with the full ticket, the time you received the message it was canceled and how you received it along with any communication you sent back to the sportsbook. Was there email or just a message? It sounds like you are saying the game had started when it was canceled which appears to be what we want to look at. We can also check the lines logs. If a player hits a move that the book makes accidently and corrects it back they usually get a pass if its right away and of course before the game. If BP laid an alt line out there and you were live when the game started, you'd have a good complaint with this considering price from 1.5 to 2.5.Comment -
Why would I submit a complaint? They're gonna claim the line was wrong. SBR is gonna say, "OH NOES GOTTA PROTECT MY WALLET" and saying BP can do no wrong. I'm not gonna get shit either way.
Why don't you get them to create a banking page or have some withdrawal policies? That could be productive.
It was before the game. Many hours fwiw.Comment -
File the complaint.Comment -
You can submit one or give the forum the requested details or just keep ranting as usual. It's starting to look like a minor issue that you dont want to go into because its not going to help your he-stole-my-purse dramatic thread title. BP likely messed up your lunch time scalp bet one way or the other. Guess we'll just leave it at that.Comment -
All this just distracts us from the important issue here: BP is a shit book, they treated me like a dork and just because iam not from the U.S. and played some tasty lines that have been up for hours sometimes without any movement. Idiot management, idiot book.Comment -
it's becoming standard practice at BP. This past Saturday IIRC, they put up a soft line on the Sharks tt o2.5. It wasn't obviously wrong. It was a few percent better than the other books that I saw. It gets hit. They then move it to 3.5. It sits for over an hour at a soft line u3.5. Again, not blatantly off. A matter of 5% better than the rest of market.
Later, BP cancels all bets on the Sharks tt claiming line error. That's just crap. They moved the line to 3.5. It sat there for awhile. How is a person supposed to bet at a book that will cancel a bet on a line sitting for sometime which is a line they obviously had to think about and set carefully after action moved it off a previous spot?
It's deplorable. If I think something happens 70% and there line says 66%, it's not an obvious line error, especially in the smaller alt line or team total markets where the max bet is $500. Canceling bets like this is bogus.Comment -
Another one of these threads about betpho. First impossible to withdraw when some idiot has over 200K with them and 4000 a week is not enough. Now stealing when they made an error with the line. Last time they set me an email when they cancelled my hockey bet before game time.Comment -
i thought SBR was pretty good at working on players' complaints... guess notComment -
Probably. I am in no way promoting BP as a top Book. They are a decent out because of their slow moving 105 lines, but they definitely come with baggage: Their payouts are somewhat slow for a Book rated so highly and now it appears they are cancelling bets that might not be obvious errors.Comment -
BetPhoenix did NOTHING wrong here and Thremp really has no right to be pissed off.
The 2 1/2 run line on the Giants was between -280 and -320 at 4 different books that I deal with.
Bet Phoenix mistakenly entered the line at -195 instead of -295 (with the -295 being the real price).
They got HAMMERED on the -195 line by people trying to scalp out a few pennies (I have no doubt Thremp was one of the ones scalping). The line was moved to -220 by computer due to the one-sided action at the wrong line of -195.
By the time Thremp saw the bet, the line had already moved up to -220 so he bet on that line, then probably went somewhere else and got +260 or thereabouts on the Phillies -2 1/2 and locked up a few bucks.
BetPhoenix realized their error and canceled all wagers placed at the incorrect line.
As long as BP canceled all wagers BEFORE the game started, they are 100% in the right.
Thremp, this is a small cost of doing business when you're arbing. This will happen from time to time so you better get used to it. If you can't, then find a different way to chisel a few dollars out of these books.Comment -
The issue really boils down to what is an obvious error. For pointspreads, I think most Books go with a 3 point rule--if a line is off by more it can be cancelled due to error. For the ML odds, I'm not aware of any hard rule. So if Thremp's line should've been about -300, is -195 voidable (probably)? how about -220 (maybe)?, or what if the line goes to -260 after that (no way voidable IMO)? So at what ML can the bet no longer be voided? I really don't know. Anybody?Comment -
Lotta idiot apologists ITT.Comment -
It amazes me that people keep playing with BP, especially people who seem to know what they're doing.Comment -
Why does everyone jump to the conclusion that Thremp is scalping. I think he's intelligent enough not to scalp this line. Using that logic to argue for BP is ridiculous. -195 is not an obvious bad line error, +195 would be an obvious bad line error.Comment -
Not an idiot... maybe. The latter. Almost def not.
Why would it matter? People are using it as mudslinging garbage. Like "Oh you filthy scalper". It shouldn't matter if I was jerking off after or furiously looking to cover the bet at any other book. Furthermore, BP can't even be bothered to be honest with me. Leaving a note in my account with details of erasing a wager that never existed. The next computer argument andywend puts out (along with a factually inaccurate representation of history) is even more absurd. I shouldn't have to be responsible nor divine the intention of the hardware/software that is in use by companies. I see a line at -220. I bet it. Does it matter if the manager is looking to take a side? Is he just an idiot who hates money? Did his computer fail him?
All people in this thread are doing is speculating. BP posts lines that they are freerolling players on and not paying. Fact.Comment -
Pinnacle had +227 at the time he bet -220. "Obvious error" GMAFBComment -
File the complaint -- lets see if anything comes of it.Comment -
I used to think I know what I am doing, but after some of the comments in this thread, I realize i am clueless. I play there every day and deal with some eccentricities. I must be perceiving value where there is none?
lolol If they would shave my delay and raise my limit i would be more of an idiot and play there more!! lol Por favor, Richard?Comment -
This is the point, If I am noob that only uses one book example BP, and you bet that line SF -2.5 -220, how are you supposed to know it is a Wrong Line? Is there responsability to have correct lines on board. The correct thing to do was to cancel the wager, and then call the customer and inform him what happen. you dont leave a note on his account, that's rude. You need to call your customer, you need to care about them BP.Comment
