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  • juvunits
    SBR Sharp
    • 10-17-16
    • 393

    #71
    Originally posted by SportsBettor5
    Best by far is BetOnline. Pinnacle, despite its significant flaws, is also necessary for pros. Bookmaker was in that group five years ago but has fallen off somewhat. It's still useful at times. For recreational players, Bovada and Bookmaker are great. BetAnySports is also a solid recreational book, for now at least.
    What flaws does pinnacle have?
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    • juvunits
      SBR Sharp
      • 10-17-16
      • 393

      #72
      I’ve been looking at Betnow? Does anyone have experience with them?
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      • Optional
        Administrator
        • 06-10-10
        • 62106

        #73
        Originally posted by juvunits
        I’ve been looking at Betnow? Does anyone have experience with them?
        Try asking in this thread https://www.sportsbookreview.com/for...0138-betnow-eu
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        • SportsBettor5
          SBR Rookie
          • 01-12-22
          • 33

          #74
          Originally posted by juvunits
          What flaws does pinnacle have?
          • 3x rollover on all deposits
          • multiple reports of harassing players for KYC nonsense long after deposit
          • unwritten rules about moving regions that can result in losing money
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          • juvunits
            SBR Sharp
            • 10-17-16
            • 393

            #75
            Originally posted by SportsBettor5
            • 3x rollover on all deposits
            • multiple reports of harassing players for KYC nonsense long after deposit
            • unwritten rules about moving regions that can result in losing money
            what is KYC
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            • Chiefs83
              SBR MVP
              • 08-01-16
              • 2907

              #76
              Need an offshore that will let me make a straight bet on Player Props???

              Heritage is not an option for me
              Youwager doesn’t allow straight bets
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              • 2Sweeet
                SBR MVP
                • 08-31-22
                • 1390

                #77
                Originally posted by juvunits

                what is KYC
                Know your Customer.

                If you deposit btc and did nothing to screw around getting bonuses in others names or try to screw with limits, I think it's non sense but it's how it is now.

                Bet105 I didn't have to do any of that bs and was paid every time within hours. They don't offer as many Props and Bonuses as others but it's no bs if you win. From what I've experienced so far I will be playing at Bet105 for Football.
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                • winnerloser
                  SBR Hustler
                  • 11-17-16
                  • 82

                  #78
                  Originally posted by 2Sweeet

                  Know your Customer.

                  If you deposit btc and did nothing to screw around getting bonuses in others names or try to screw with limits, I think it's non sense but it's how it is now.

                  Bet105 I didn't have to do any of that bs and was paid every time within hours. They don't offer as many Props and Bonuses as others but it's no bs if you win. From what I've experienced so far I will be playing at Bet105 for Football.
                  looks like bet105 is the top offshore right now , any crpyto books u use?
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                  • Optional
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                    • 06-10-10
                    • 62106

                    #79
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                    • winnerloser
                      SBR Hustler
                      • 11-17-16
                      • 82

                      #80
                      anyone have any info on these sportsbooks. bet panda, jackbit, 500 casino and megapari?
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                      • DynamiteLarry64
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                        • 03-30-25
                        • 40

                        #81
                        betpanda : Huge scam accusations against them with accounts getting blocked , won betslips cancelled , withdraws getting rejected and given that they are a fairly new sportsbook (compared to the rest) I would skip it
                        jackbit : I believe they pay but they limit very fast and then force you to combine 4-5 betting selections on a parlay to be able to make a wager
                        500 casino : legit site as far as I know.
                        megapari : scam russian site that is rumored to ask for 15 documents (you holding a newspaper in front of your house showing your house address + the date) in order to give payouts. They limit quite fast too but have all 1xbet betting offer ( as they are a 1xbet mirror site)
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                        • winnerloser
                          SBR Hustler
                          • 11-17-16
                          • 82

                          #82
                          Originally posted by DynamiteLarry64
                          betpanda : Huge scam accusations against them with accounts getting blocked , won betslips cancelled , withdraws getting rejected and given that they are a fairly new sportsbook (compared to the rest) I would skip it
                          jackbit : I believe they pay but they limit very fast and then force you to combine 4-5 betting selections on a parlay to be able to make a wager
                          500 casino : legit site as far as I know.
                          megapari : scam russian site that is rumored to ask for 15 documents (you holding a newspaper in front of your house showing your house address + the date) in order to give payouts. They limit quite fast too but have all 1xbet betting offer ( as they are a 1xbet mirror site)
                          ok thx for that info
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                          • SportsBettor5
                            SBR Rookie
                            • 01-12-22
                            • 33

                            #83
                            Originally posted by winnerloser

                            looks like bet105 is the top offshore right now
                            Is this a joke? That book has existed for about five minutes.

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                            • litrismaxxx
                              SBR Hustler
                              • 08-30-10
                              • 68

                              #84
                              Originally posted by DynamiteLarry64
                              betpanda : Huge scam accusations against them with accounts getting blocked , won betslips cancelled , withdraws getting rejected and given that they are a fairly new sportsbook (compared to the rest) I would skip it
                              jackbit : I believe they pay but they limit very fast and then force you to combine 4-5 betting selections on a parlay to be able to make a wager
                              500 casino : legit site as far as I know.
                              megapari : scam russian site that is rumored to ask for 15 documents (you holding a newspaper in front of your house showing your house address + the date) in order to give payouts. They limit quite fast too but have all 1xbet betting offer ( as they are a 1xbet mirror site)
                              thats a great info, you can add shuffle, many scam accusations too, take long time for payouts or difficult for KYC verified similar as betpanda.
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                              • BookDatSh1t
                                SBR Rookie
                                • 08-31-25
                                • 8

                                #85
                                having a bad experience with bet105. they cancelled some winning soccer wagers I made and have not received any communication as to why. I sent them email but no response as yet
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                                • winnerloser
                                  SBR Hustler
                                  • 11-17-16
                                  • 82

                                  #86
                                  Originally posted by SportsBettor5

                                  Is this a joke? That book has existed for about five minutes.
                                  I am not advocating for nor recommending any book.

                                  But you tell me other than bitcoin-betting and bet105, what books dont offer kyc and dont limit winners, also pay quickly,

                                  AT LEAST FOR NOW.
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                                  • BearBuckMtn
                                    SBR Rookie
                                    • 02-18-25
                                    • 24

                                    #87
                                    Originally posted by winnerloser

                                    I am not advocating for nor recommending any book.

                                    But you tell me other than bitcoin-betting and bet105, what books dont offer kyc and dont limit winners, also pay quickly,

                                    AT LEAST FOR NOW.
                                    Boomaker.eu
                                    Betonline.ag
                                    Lowvig.ag
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                                    • winnerloser
                                      SBR Hustler
                                      • 11-17-16
                                      • 82

                                      #88
                                      Obviously Pinnacle Sports is absolutely the number one book, but I am talking about offshore, that dont KYC.
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                                      • djefferis
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 08-16-08
                                        • 1217

                                        #89
                                        Originally posted by winnerloser
                                        Obviously Pinnacle Sports is absolutely the number one book, but I am talking about offshore, that dont KYC.
                                        Bet105 is about your only option here.

                                        What you are asking for is a trustworthy book that has a large enough volume and risk portfolio to take on bets beyond a couple of hundred dollars who doesn’t extensively profile players or hassle known sharps/professionals.

                                        Bet105 is the only name available to anyone without an invitation. I’m sure there are a few individuals still booking who meet this criteria - but without an invite - it’s Bet105. They are reasonably trustworthy (as much as anyone in the current offshore climate) and don’t KYC. Of course things can and do change in an instant.

                                        When you say “no KYC” - that’s a pretty big ask. It’s like I used to tell people - you can have quality work, cheap or fast - pick 2 - you can’t have all 3. Same applies to no KYC, trustworthy and high limits - pick 2 - no one gives you all 3 completely but Bet105 comes closest.
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                                        • winnerloser
                                          SBR Hustler
                                          • 11-17-16
                                          • 82

                                          #90
                                          Yeah I understand, they can have KYC too, lot of top books do KYC, like Pinny I understand.

                                          Pinnacle Sports and Bookmaker seem very trustworthy for now, and have been for an extremely long time.


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                                          • SportsBettor5
                                            SBR Rookie
                                            • 01-12-22
                                            • 33

                                            #91
                                            Originally posted by winnerloser

                                            I am not advocating for nor recommending any book.

                                            But you tell me other than bitcoin-betting and bet105, what books dont offer kyc and dont limit winners, also pay quickly,

                                            AT LEAST FOR NOW.
                                            I've been with betonline for many years. They have the highest limits in the industry (tied with Pinnacle and Circa), have never limited me even though I'm up on them significantly, have never KYC'd me and pay within minutes every time.

                                            Bookmaker.eu pays within minutes like BOL and have never KYC'd me. However, after years of beating them, they limited me. Still, their limits for me are high enough that they are somewhat useful at times. That said, there is another poster here who they limited to peanuts on main markets.

                                            Bovada limited me very quickly but they pay within minutes like the other two. Can't remember if they KYC'd me but if so it was only once years ago.

                                            Circa is the best onshore in the world. They don't limit. Fund via wire transfer or cash in person. Obviously if you have privacy concerns then onshores might not be for you.
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                                            • Brooklyn Dick
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 09-12-08
                                              • 1084

                                              #92
                                              Originally posted by winnerloser

                                              i am not advocating for nor recommending any book.

                                              But you tell me other than bitcoin-betting and bet105, what books dont offer kyc and dont limit winners, also pay quickly,

                                              at least for now.
                                              none..............You have a better chance of running into a Dinosaur.....







                                              ......
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                                              • Ylla1
                                                SBR Rookie
                                                • 08-10-25
                                                • 17

                                                #93
                                                Wanted to know the best books for people in the US to use, that don’t limit you for a while. Or don’t really limit at all?

                                                I can’t really use Pinnacle, and don’t know too many others after that… I saw Bookmaker.eu supposedly let someone run up 7 figures before limiting. Don’t know many other that will let you do that though
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                                                • juvunits
                                                  SBR Sharp
                                                  • 10-17-16
                                                  • 393

                                                  #94
                                                  Originally posted by SportsBettor5

                                                  I've been with betonline for many years. They have the highest limits in the industry (tied with Pinnacle and Circa), have never limited me even though I'm up on them significantly, have never KYC'd me and pay within minutes every time.

                                                  Bookmaker.eu pays within minutes like BOL and have never KYC'd me. However, after years of beating them, they limited me. Still, their limits for me are high enough that they are somewhat useful at times. That said, there is another poster here who they limited to peanuts on main markets.

                                                  Bovada limited me very quickly but they pay within minutes like the other two. Can't remember if they KYC'd me but if so it was only once years ago.

                                                  Circa is the best onshore in the world. They don't limit. Fund via wire transfer or cash in person. Obviously if you have privacy concerns then onshores might not be for you.
                                                  The problem I have with betonline is not enough markets. Team totals for college football don’t come out until the day of and even if they do come out. Half of the games you can’t bet on the team totals. I play a lot of team totals. For example tonight. Northwestern vs western Illinois. No team totals but on other sportsbooks they have it. Yah sure you can play the TT when the game goes on inplay, but by the time they put the game up on the in-play, a couple of minutes have gone by in the game and the line is affected already
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                                                  • SportsBettor5
                                                    SBR Rookie
                                                    • 01-12-22
                                                    • 33

                                                    #95
                                                    Originally posted by juvunits

                                                    The problem I have with betonline is not enough markets. Team totals for college football don’t come out until the day of and even if they do come out. Half of the games you can’t bet on the team totals. I play a lot of team totals. For example tonight. Northwestern vs western Illinois. No team totals but on other sportsbooks they have it. Yah sure you can play the TT when the game goes on inplay, but by the time they put the game up on the in-play, a couple of minutes have gone by in the game and the line is affected already
                                                    Seems like a solid criticism. winnerloser was asking about KYC/payouts/limiting. BOL is best in class for those parameters.

                                                    Originally posted by winnerloser

                                                    looks like bet105 is the top offshore right now?
                                                    Ok, I read through the bet105 thread here. Guess I'm behind the times. I thought bet105 was just the new hyped up book blasting its ads everywhere like DSI used to be.

                                                    I like that it's a split off of Heritage (overall good rep) and that the bet105 representative in the thread was saying it's going to try to become Circa 2.0. This actually makes me fear for the future of Circa. Now they have to compete against not only Pinnacle and BOL but also (if the representative was accurate) bet105. Seems like it will be hard for Circa to compete given their huge overhead compared to their more nimble offshore competitors.
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                                                    • Tom R.
                                                      SBR High Roller
                                                      • 08-17-13
                                                      • 134

                                                      #96
                                                      Who can explain what is so good about bet105 that it is mentioned in every post?
                                                      Poor lines on markets: no European basketball, Tennis ITF, no Handball, Volleyball, Soccer only major leagues of big countries.
                                                      What is good?
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                                                      • BookDatSh1t
                                                        SBR Rookie
                                                        • 08-31-25
                                                        • 8

                                                        #97
                                                        Originally posted by Tom R.
                                                        Who can explain what is so good about bet105 that it is mentioned in every post?
                                                        Poor lines on markets: no European basketball, Tennis ITF, no Handball, Volleyball, Soccer only major leagues of big countries.
                                                        What is good?
                                                        It's US focused. Most US customers are happy betting only NFL, College Football and Basketball, NBA, MLB and NHL. You're talking about minor sports, Handball, Volleyball, ITF Tennis. If you want to bet that low level shit then go to the shit books that offer it and get limited in 2 seconds. Bet105 will never offer that and nor should they, that's not the market they're looking for.
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                                                        • 2Sweeet
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 08-31-22
                                                          • 1390

                                                          #98
                                                          Originally posted by Tom R.
                                                          Who can explain what is so good about bet105 that it is mentioned in every post?
                                                          Poor lines on markets: no European basketball, Tennis ITF, no Handball, Volleyball, Soccer only major leagues of big countries.
                                                          What is good?
                                                          I agree with some of what u say but if u want to bet a large sum of money on a side or total pre game This is the place.. They have low limits on props and don't offer other things.. Hell they don't even offer teasers??? If u want to get down on a ML or spread this has to be one of your outs.
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                                                          • 2Sweeet
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 08-31-22
                                                            • 1390

                                                            #99
                                                            Originally posted by SportsBettor5

                                                            I've been with betonline for many years. They have the highest limits in the industry (tied with Pinnacle and Circa), have never limited me even though I'm up on them significantly, have never KYC'd me and pay within minutes every time.

                                                            Bookmaker.eu pays within minutes like BOL and have never KYC'd me. However, after years of beating them, they limited me. Still, their limits for me are high enough that they are somewhat useful at times. That said, there is another poster here who they limited to peanuts on main markets.

                                                            Bovada limited me very quickly but they pay within minutes like the other two. Can't remember if they KYC'd me but if so it was only once years ago.

                                                            Circa is the best onshore in the world. They don't limit. Fund via wire transfer or cash in person. Obviously if you have privacy concerns then onshores might not be for you.
                                                            LOL I'm sure you have been with BOL for many years... But if your limits r high that means u lose. I personally no BOL owners and don't have one bad thing to say about them. Winners don't get your same limits is all.
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                                                            • SportsBettor5
                                                              SBR Rookie
                                                              • 01-12-22
                                                              • 33

                                                              #100
                                                              Originally posted by 2Sweeet

                                                              LOL I'm sure you have been with BOL for many years... But if your limits r high that means u lose. I personally no BOL owners and don't have one bad thing to say about them. Winners don't get your same limits is all.
                                                              I haven't run my numbers for BOL specifically, but I'm pretty confident I'm way up on them over the years. Your challenge might motivate me to run those numbers later.

                                                              For main markets, I've never heard of them limiting individual accounts (i.e., those not linked to a syndicate). Please correct me if I'm wrong.

                                                              If I am wrong, it could be that they've profiled me as someone who they expect to lose in the long-run. I think I'm just getting their standard limits, nothing special. At post, for me, their limits are similar to Pinnacle's and Circa's. Again, I'm talking about pre-game main markets. No live betting or anything even remotely exotic.

                                                              Originally posted by 2Sweeet

                                                              I agree with some of what u say but if u want to bet a large sum of money on a side or total pre game This is the place.. They have low limits on props and don't offer other things.. Hell they don't even offer teasers??? If u want to get down on a ML or spread this has to be one of your outs.
                                                              Good info here. Will have to get with them.

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                                                              • tklemans
                                                                SBR Hustler
                                                                • 06-30-09
                                                                • 54

                                                                #101
                                                                Where does Lowvig.ag get their lines from? Do they mirror other books? Looks really similar to BOL, so I assume they are sister companies?
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                                                                • Ylla1
                                                                  SBR Rookie
                                                                  • 08-10-25
                                                                  • 17

                                                                  #102
                                                                  What book provides the highest limits on prop bets and prop parlays?

                                                                  it seems BetOnline has low limits on this as well as a few of the other good ones. I can’t use Pinacle since I’m in the US…
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                                                                  • Hero Man
                                                                    SBR High Roller
                                                                    • 11-19-20
                                                                    • 109

                                                                    #103
                                                                    Originally posted by Hero Man
                                                                    I've bet at Betwws...Got two large payouts without difficulty
                                                                    That was early on...Since then they changed to wagercoast.ag and stiffed many players with larger accounts at betwws.
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                                                                    • Ylla1
                                                                      SBR Rookie
                                                                      • 08-10-25
                                                                      • 17

                                                                      #104
                                                                      Anyone know which books provide the highest limits on prop bets and prop parlays?

                                                                      It seems BetOnline has low limits on this as well as a few of the other good ones. I can’t use Pinacle since I’m in the
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                                                                      • raiders72001
                                                                        Senior Member
                                                                        • 08-10-05
                                                                        • 11209

                                                                        #105
                                                                        Bitcoin-Betting has high limits, no KYC, Pinny lines and never limited.
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