Best offshore books now?

[Headsterx]

Just wondering are the offshore books just going to die now that prediction markets offer liquidity and similar pricing, even better. Kalshi is close to 0% risk of any of these scams and money lost. One can even get interest on the funds at the account. Funds are safe there. We know that at offshore there are reports of money getting lost and funds are definitely not guaranteed, safe.

If they keep up with the commercials, congress will step in with legislation against them. Similar to DK and FD years ago with DFS.

[Hero Man]

Just wondering are the offshore books just going to die now that prediction markets offer liquidity and similar pricing, even better. Kalshi is close to 0% risk of any of these scams and money lost. One can even get interest on the funds at the account. Funds are safe there. We know that at offshore there are reports of money getting lost and funds are definitely not guaranteed, safe.

It certainly seems like they are in a death spiral. Any book other than a couple of A listed books are likely to make your life miserable. Even more so now that the NFL season, their cash cow, is over. Sooo sad. I remember the wild west days when the money and bonuses were flowing!

[SheSMySin]

Just wondering are the offshore books just going to die now that prediction markets offer liquidity and similar pricing, even better. Kalshi is close to 0% risk of any of these scams and money lost. One can even get interest on the funds at the account. Funds are safe there. We know that at offshore there are reports of money getting lost and funds are definitely not guaranteed, safe.

[Optional]

Can someone illuminate me on the issue of brokers for offshore play if you are a U.S. citizen. I got in to AsianConnect several years ago with my normal state I'D and simply registered on their site a different country. I've never had a problem. Is it still the same method now with new brokers or is their a crackdown. Any recommendations? Thanks

You will probably get more and better answers in this Broker and Agent Issues thread

[Hero Man]

Can someone illuminate me on the issue of brokers for offshore play if you are a U.S. citizen. I got in to AsianConnect several years ago with my normal state I'D and simply registered on their site a different country. I've never had a problem. Is it still the same method now with new brokers or is their a crackdown. Any recommendations? Thanks

[Ksherm]

Been betting at Wagercoast.ag with no issues. 2 payouts so far both within 24 hours. Good bonuses..

[raiders72001]

I'm another Bitcoin-Betting fan and to add they also allow direct BTC deposits.

[challenges999]

Bookmaker, BetOnline, Bet105 are the three I can personally attest to.

decided to try bitcoin-betting and it has actually been going well expect the does not automatically make the hornets to win some fucking games aside that it is actually good

[ProSportsEdge]

Exactly. Aside from the other outliers, I mean bad actors who try to game the system, stringent KYC just looks off. I use bet365 for parlays and then bitcoin-betting is my go to cos it's just too easy to use. No unnecessary KYC hassles and I can also use my DEX wallet directly.

Yeah, I’m with you. Over the top KYC is a turnoff. I do the same thing, bet365 for parlays and bitcoin betting when I want it quick and easy. Being able to use a DEX wallet with no hassle is hard to beat.

[Dannye013]

Any Offshore book that imposes KYC on withdrawals should be avoided at all costs. It is hard enough to win, but when you have to send multiple forms and fight for YOUR money you need to go elsewhere......

Exactly. Aside from the other outliers, I mean bad actors who try to game the system, stringent KYC just looks off. I use bet365 for parlays and then bitcoin-betting is my go to cos it's just too easy to use. No unnecessary KYC hassles and I can also use my DEX wallet directly.

[Brooklyn Dick]

I do see the same way offshore books should work as much as possible on reputation excessive constant requirement for documents can feel like a shenanigans.

See below..

[povis]

Any Offshore book that imposes KYC on withdrawals should be avoided at all costs. It is hard enough to win, but when you have to send multiple forms and fight for YOUR money you need to go elsewhere......

I do see the same way offshore books should work as much as possible on reputation excessive constant requirement for documents can feel like a shenanigans.

[Brooklyn Dick]

Any Offshore book that imposes KYC on withdrawals should be avoided at all costs. It is hard enough to win, but when you have to send multiple forms and fight for YOUR money you need to go elsewhere......

[fsutomahawk]

Bookmaker, BetOnline, Bet105 are the three I can personally attest to.

[EGrecu]

Bookmaker.eu

[Steelers05]

Thanks for the feedback all, appreciate the look out!

[Optional]

Is WagerWeb still solid?

Starting next week I’m going back to offshore, can’t deal with these horseshit US shops anymore.

Thread for Wagerweb reports here. https://www.sportsbookreview.com/for...agerweb-issues

They have been slowly circling the drain for a while now. Used to be fair minded but all that has changed. I would not get on that sinking ship.

[SportsBettor5]

Is WagerWeb still solid?

Starting next week I’m going back to offshore, can’t deal with these horseshit US shops anymore.

https://forum.bookmakersreview.com/threads/wagerweb-slow-pay-complaints.66969/

Stick with the big boys (Bookmaker and BOL)

[Steelers05]

Is WagerWeb still solid?

Starting next week I’m going back to offshore, can’t deal with these horseshit US shops anymore.

[dr_seanathan]

is bookie.ag still paying out? anyone?

I just wanted to circle back here that the answer is no and they have a questionable history as of now.

Seems as if they are unwilling to promise crypto withdrawals even if the deposits were in crypto, and they reserve the right to / like to send money orders which seems pretty sketch to me.

[Ksherm]

is bookie.ag still paying out? anyone?

[Optional]

Where is the bet 105 thread?

https://www.sportsbookreview.com/forum/sportsbooks-industry/2032806-all-bet105-ag-issues-and-info

[Crusherrr]

Agreed wombat, BOL/SBAG and Bookmaker are about the only offshore books that I feel comfortable at anymore. Many of the old favorites have fallen way off in comparison.

Feel the same way. Heritage just stole my cash back, slow paid me for weeks, doesn't honor their payout limits and even added rollover to a balance that I was getting paid down on for a while. If playing offshore in 2025/2026- BetOnline group and Bookmaker group are the only ones left that I trust. I do have good experiences with Youwager as well still but they're obviously not on the same level as BOL/BM

[raiders72001]

I type bitcoin betting in google and can’t find it. Is that the actual name of the site?

Bitcoin-Betting dot com. Need a hyphen.

[2Sweeet]

have you used bet105? Do they have a lot of games,especially college football on the in play?

Bet105 is good for Sides and Totals Live ,not props. 500 limits on live parlays also.

[juvunits]

Seems like a solid criticism. winnerloser was asking about KYC/payouts/limiting. BOL is best in class for those parameters.



Ok, I read through the bet105 thread here. Guess I'm behind the times. I thought bet105 was just the new hyped up book blasting its ads everywhere like DSI used to be.

I like that it's a split off of Heritage (overall good rep) and that the bet105 representative in the thread was saying it's going to try to become Circa 2.0. This actually makes me fear for the future of Circa. Now they have to compete against not only Pinnacle and BOL but also (if the representative was accurate) bet105. Seems like it will be hard for Circa to compete given their huge overhead compared to their more nimble offshore competitors.

Where is the bet 105 thread?

[juvunits]

I agree with some of what u say but if u want to bet a large sum of money on a side or total pre game This is the place.. They have low limits on props and don't offer other things.. Hell they don't even offer teasers??? If u want to get down on a ML or spread this has to be one of your outs.

have you used bet105? Do they have a lot of games,especially college football on the in play?

[juvunits]

Bitcoin-Betting has high limits, no KYC, Pinny lines and never limited.

I type bitcoin betting in google and can’t find it. Is that the actual name of the site?

[juvunits]

Is Betonline and sportsbetting.ag the exact same? Or is there a difference

[DynamiteLarry64]

I missed this question. The odds at Bitcoin-Betting are Pinny but the limits can be higher or lower than Pinny. It's ok to have accounts at both places.

I believe they never offer limits lower than pinnacle.It's either they always offer what pinnacle is offering or even higher which depends on if they take sides against some players with huge minus which was true when FairLay was handling the site but I don't know if this still stands now with the new site of Bitcoin-Betting.
I believe after a few accounts killed them in a few cases with alleged "betting on fixed matches", they are only offering what pinnacle is offering without offering any bigger maxbet but I could be wrong.

[raiders72001]

Apparently posting here got my limits at BM doubled. Still 50% of BOL (wish it were 100%) but can't complain.

Thank you, whoever did this. BM re-enters the top tier for me.



Pinnacle odds and Pinnacle limits or just the former? Ok to have an account at both Pinnacle and Bitcoin-betting dot com?

I missed this question. The odds at Bitcoin-Betting are Pinny but the limits can be higher or lower than Pinny. It's ok to have accounts at both places.

[juvunits]

Anyone use bet365 from a country where it’s illegal? How is it?

[raiders72001]

Thanks! It’s saying it’s not available in my region though. I’m in the U.S. and not using a vpn. Do I have to use a vpn to use it?

Yes, you have to use a VPN but they will never do KYC.

[JAKEPEAVY21]

BetOnline and Bookmaker are the top two offshore books period. Bookmaker has higher betting limits especially on live betting however they have 25k daily payout limits and monthly limit is capped at 100k. Betonline has no monthly limits on payouts which is a big bonus If you are playing higher amounts. You can take out 500k on a single BTC transaction if needed. On any given day, any of these two will be the top offshore book. They have reputations of over 25 years. I wouldn’t mess with any other offshore. Heritage comes in a third place but lower payout limits of 3K per day and 10k per week.

For all the folks that complain about these two giants, I call bullshit. It’s always some new poster that just created their account trying to circumvent limits and they got busted. If you are legitimate and not trying to multi account, you will never hear a story about not getting paid from these two books. Think about it, they’ve been around for over 25 years with a huge customer base even with legal books in the US taking a big chunk of their revenue. They are still around and will always be around because the US books can’t compare when it comes to odds among a slew of other advantages for playing offshore.

Agreed wombat, BOL/SBAG and Bookmaker are about the only offshore books that I feel comfortable at anymore. Many of the old favorites have fallen way off in comparison.

[Ylla1]

No parlays but prop limits are very high, much higher than BOL. You'll never be limited. Bitcoin-betting dot com

edit- I changed so that it's not hyperlinked.

Thanks! It’s saying it’s not available in my region though. I’m in the U.S. and not using a vpn. Do I have to use a vpn to use it?