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  • mojobullfrog
    SBR High Roller
    • 09-24-13
    • 176

    #736
    Too late! Their threats of defamation against me seem somewhat trivial now that the full truth is coming out.
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    • shari91
      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
      • 02-23-10
      • 32661

      #737
      Originally posted by mojobullfrog
      Too late! Their threats of defamation against me seem somewhat trivial now that the full truth is coming out.
      haha! I was talking about Lord although I agree I think they're in so much shit now I bet they wish they could go back to the good old days where you were the only thorn in their side. It's crazy to think that it was only one week ago today that I visited their offices. Look at how much has happened in such a short period of time when we all band together.
      Last edited by shari91; 02-13-14, 11:22 PM.
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      • mojobullfrog
        SBR High Roller
        • 09-24-13
        • 176

        #738
        Yeah, back in the day when a 'Cease and Desist' document from their legal team was all they needed to make things go away.

        Anyway, on to other matters. I've worked out that the latest David should receive his Freedom of Information document is on February 25th. Presumably it will be sent expediantly, so perhaps a day after this. David sent his request on January 28th, and as stated by the Gambling Commission: "we aim to deal with all requests ... no later than 20 working days in line with the statutory requirement."
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        • cantbet2014
          SBR Rookie
          • 02-13-14
          • 8

          #739
          Hi guys, only just found this website and thread and have registered so I can make my first post.

          Huge thanks to Shari and everyone else for their efforts thus far and for the energy and momentum you've all created. I see Shari's creating a list of people who are owed money - here's my info:

          Canbet account number: 1153514
          Amount owed: £2,627.01
          Withdrawal request placed: 11th Oct 2013 (for £2,000; a second request for the remaining £627.01 placed early December)

          The most recent Canbet bonus offer email I received was on 12th Aug 2013 for a 100% deposit match up to £500. The most recent newsletter I received was on 13th Nov 2013 for betting on World Cup qualifier playoffs and offering money back specials on NFL and golf. I submitted a county court action (costing £80) in January but haven't asked the court to act yet as I'm currently out of the UK on holiday.

          Thanks again for all your hard work Shari. I will keep checking back on this thread for any news. I just signed the UK e-petition as well.

          Cheers.
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          • mojobullfrog
            SBR High Roller
            • 09-24-13
            • 176

            #740
            Originally posted by shari91
            haha! I was talking about Lord although I agree I think they're in so much shit now I bet they wish they could go back to the good old days where you were the only thorn in their side. It's crazy to think that it was only one week ago today that I visited their offices. Look at how much has happened in such a short period of time when we all band together.
            Time flies by when you're trying to clean up the world of wagering, one failed company director at a time.
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            • ghipuca
              SBR Rookie
              • 02-12-14
              • 5

              #741
              Hi guys, is there any hope that they will pay our money?
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              • GuybrushT
                SBR High Roller
                • 08-24-08
                • 146

                #742
                Originally posted by ghipuca
                Hi guys, is there any hope that they will pay our money?
                I think that:
                1. They can
                2. They don't want

                So if we just wait them to pay, no money for us. Someone must convince them to pay. But the best way to do it must be found.
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                • simply
                  SBR High Roller
                  • 12-10-13
                  • 168

                  #743
                  Originally posted by bostonboss
                  chalk it as a loss move on....this is the risk you take betting anywhere offshore...you are just creating more heartbreak for yourself reliving this stiffing everyday......read a book/take a walk....smoke a joint.....relax.
                  Just don't make me more nervous then currently I am. I don't know how much is your monthly/yearly income nor want to guess, but I am highly doubtful that you will say/think same story if bookmaker(or any other) took your 2 years income. You would say: yeah, I just worked two years for nothing(someone took), OK, that is not problem, I will just stay cool and take a beer , or smoke joint. Aha how yes now.
                  On the other side, it is very pleasant feeling when you see that crooks just taken your 2 years income, while one of them live in the house valued 2.500.000 $. What a misery.
                  So mate just go from this thread, and keep reading your books, smoke joints....
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                  • the unheardof
                    SBR Rookie
                    • 12-11-13
                    • 27

                    #744
                    Hi folks, have to make this quick as I am working at the moment. Alex from ABC has been in touch. Alex if you're reading this pal I will email you later when I get a chance.
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                    • RyDLloyd
                      SBR Rookie
                      • 02-07-14
                      • 18

                      #745
                      I contacted my local MP about the Gambling Commissions failure and one of his lead caseworkers has responded to me asking for more information. The tone of her email is more in the mould of trying to help me get my money back from Canbet which was not my initial intention when contacting them but I will give them a full rundown of my experience and hope that they will put some pressure on the Gambling Commission.

                      If anyone has ideas as to what information from within this thread might be useful to include, please let me know.
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                      • Ajs93010
                        SBR Rookie
                        • 02-14-14
                        • 2

                        #746
                        Will canbet be under uk law or aussie law... does anyone know?
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                        • dirtdog52658
                          SBR Sharp
                          • 05-19-11
                          • 450

                          #747
                          Anyone out there whos Polish and can get signed up and post on this thread to spread the word.

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                          • abhi
                            SBR Rookie
                            • 02-10-14
                            • 12

                            #748
                            Uk law mate....and people like bostonboss should be blocked.
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                            • dirtdog52658
                              SBR Sharp
                              • 05-19-11
                              • 450

                              #749
                              Dutch Forum for someone who can post there.

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                              • antt
                                SBR Rookie
                                • 02-14-14
                                • 1

                                #750
                                They owe me 5200 euros since November.
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                                • relaaxx
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 06-15-06
                                  • 3281

                                  #751
                                  sad to hear of this once great book going so far down. good luck to all who have funds there.
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                                  • mikey47
                                    SBR Rookie
                                    • 02-14-14
                                    • 1

                                    #752
                                    Please add me to the list - £1094.75 since November.
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                                    • bostonboss
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 02-04-09
                                      • 3169

                                      #753
                                      Originally posted by simply
                                      Just don't make me more nervous then currently I am. I don't know how much is your monthly/yearly income nor want to guess, but I am highly doubtful that you will say/think same story if bookmaker(or any other) took your 2 years income. You would say: yeah, I just worked two years for nothing(someone took), OK, that is not problem, I will just stay cool and take a beer , or smoke joint. Aha how yes now.
                                      On the other side, it is very pleasant feeling when you see that crooks just taken your 2 years income, while one of them live in the house valued 2.500.000 $. What a misery.
                                      So mate just go from this thread, and keep reading your books, smoke joints....
                                      just a piece of advise.....don't leave 2 yrs of salary in an online sportsbook
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                                      • simply
                                        SBR High Roller
                                        • 12-10-13
                                        • 168

                                        #754
                                        Originally posted by bostonboss
                                        just a piece of advise.....don't leave 2 yrs of salary in an online sportsbook
                                        In fact I put 1 month salary to take 100% bonus, and after finished bonus rollover that became 2 years salary. No way that I just can forget about that money and keep cooling.
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                                        • MLZ3211
                                          SBR Rookie
                                          • 02-12-14
                                          • 15

                                          #755
                                          Hi all,

                                          Just sent an email to Alex and wondered how to upload it on here and if anyone still has any emails offering promotions in October or November as I am sure I saw more offers after they must have known what was supposedly happening.
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                                          • lockstock777
                                            SBR Rookie
                                            • 02-10-14
                                            • 5

                                            #756
                                            Boston boss, Why don't you just clear off and go and annoy someone else. I bet your doing the high five to yourself in the mirror, thinking your really cool with these pathetic comments. You must take some sh** in your life and regularly get/got beaten when you were younger - I suppose on here no one will hit back. Good luck.

                                            p.s - sorry to everyone following, I could not resist. Keep up the good work all, especially SHARI.
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                                            • bostonboss
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 02-04-09
                                              • 3169

                                              #757
                                              Originally posted by lockstock777
                                              Boston boss, Why don't you just clear off and go and annoy someone else. I bet your doing the high five to yourself in the mirror, thinking your really cool with these pathetic comments. You must take some sh** in your life and regularly get/got beaten when you were younger - I suppose on here no one will hit back. Good luck.

                                              p.s - sorry to everyone following, I could not resist. Keep up the good work all, especially SHARI.
                                              fukk off pal
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                                              • shari91
                                                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                • 02-23-10
                                                • 32661

                                                #758
                                                Originally posted by MLZ3211
                                                Hi all,

                                                Just sent an email to Alex and wondered how to upload it on here and if anyone still has any emails offering promotions in October or November as I am sure I saw more offers after they must have known what was supposedly happening.
                                                The oldest email I saw in here offering bonuses so far was dated Oct 23.
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                                                • simply
                                                  SBR High Roller
                                                  • 12-10-13
                                                  • 168

                                                  #759
                                                  Originally posted by MLZ3211
                                                  Hi all,

                                                  Just sent an email to Alex and wondered how to upload it on here and if anyone still has any emails offering promotions in October or November as I am sure I saw more offers after they must have known what was supposedly happening.
                                                  I assume copy/ paste would work. It seems that they had same promotion in August(someone reported recently), September(I take that), October(for those who lost their money in August and September promotion,also someone reported here). Of course that they knew what is happening, no one who have betting company is not so stupid. Big money missing here because it is not possible that all players who took bonus was successful, someone must lose his money. Here is reported only about 8000 Eur payout, and now we see that reported owed money is over 500.000 Eur, that difference is so much big to not be realized from their side.
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                                                  • Rikki
                                                    SBR Rookie
                                                    • 01-28-14
                                                    • 5

                                                    #760
                                                    Some bad news. The GC have refused my FOI request:

                                                    Explanation of exemption applied – section 31
                                                    Section 31(1)(g) of the Freedom of Information Act 2000 (FOIA) (‘Law enforcement’) provides that information held by a public authority is exempt if its disclosure would or would be likely to prejudice the exercise of a public authority of its functions including “the purpose of ascertaining whether circumstances which would justify regulatory action in pursuance of any enactment exist or may arise” (s.31(2)(c)).
                                                    Section 31 is a qualified exemption so we are required to consider whether maintaining the exemption is in the public interest.
                                                    In favour of disclosure
                                                    There is a legitimate public interest in promoting the accountability and transparency of public authorities. There is also an interest in highlighting instances of non-compliance within the industry in order to promote compliance from other operators.
                                                    A large number of people have been affected by the failure of Canbet to pay its customers.
                                                    There is also an interest in the public understanding how the Commission investigates matters of non-compliance and that if there are any failings in this process that these are exposed.
                                                    In favour of maintaining the exemption
                                                    The Commission has provided updates regarding this case via the Commission website.
                                                    The information requested is in relation to a very specific case so disclosure would not be of general public interest. It is of interest to those directly affected by the current situation.
                                                    Disclosure is likely to prejudice the Commission’s ability to investigate such matters in the future if the bodies it regulates feel they cannot be candid with it regarding its regulatory investigations. This is not in the public interest as it would have a negative impact upon our ability to carry out our statutory functions.
                                                    The case is still currently ongoing and disclosure would prejudice the Commission’s ability to engage with the operator.
                                                    Weighing the balance
                                                    Having considered the balance of the public interest, the Commission is of the view that disclosing this level of detail would be likely to negatively impact on the openness the Commission expects from operators. The balance of the public interest lies in operators being encouraged to make timely and frank submissions to the Commission when incidents occur to allow the Commission to take appropriate steps in a timely manner.
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                                                    • RyDLloyd
                                                      SBR Rookie
                                                      • 02-07-14
                                                      • 18

                                                      #761
                                                      Got the same refusal to my FOI request.

                                                      Which is quite timely to be honest as I can pass it on to my MP
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                                                      • bostonboss
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 02-04-09
                                                        • 3169

                                                        #762
                                                        Originally posted by bostonboss
                                                        just a piece of advise.....don't leave 2 yrs of salary in an online sportsbook
                                                        also never take a bonus.
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                                                        • hristo1971
                                                          SBR Rookie
                                                          • 07-04-09
                                                          • 46

                                                          #763
                                                          Originally posted by bostonboss
                                                          also never take a bonus.
                                                          bostonboy, apparently you didn't read all the posts... lots of players didn't take any bonus and were still scammed... on the other hand many SBR A+ solid books offer bonuses, why wouldn't one take a bonus if he wants to bet anyway? the only reason in my opinion is when he is VERY STUPID... so you should stick to your first advise dude, with reading a book, taking a nap and smoking a joint
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                                                          • shari91
                                                            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                            • 02-23-10
                                                            • 32661

                                                            #764
                                                            After the past few days, I don't think this is as big of a setback as we would've thought it would be. We now know who conducted the audit so although Alex has already tried, I'm going to give it a go and contact PricewaterhouseCooper on Monday to see if they'll release the report. As I have maybe 5% chance of that happening, I'll also contact ASIC to see what additional docs I can purchase re their receivership.

                                                            Even if that all fails we have enough at this point to go forward anyway. We have the timelines of the bonus offers and few payouts, Peter and Graeme admitting the other day they were trading while insolvent, a much larger amount of money involved than we'd first had when I spoke with the lawyer and ASIC and now even Racing Vic has jumped in. I also assume that if ASIC were the ones to request the docs from the GC they'd comply and ideally we want ASIC to take the lead as much as possible anyway. They have the power and resources to do much more than we ever could to get your money back (as well as throwing these two in prison) and it'll save you guys the legal expense. Hopefully another article or tv piece will come out this wknd/early next week and until I can talk to PwC and ASIC on Monday I'll keep recording names of who is owed and responding to the media. The GC may not want to work with us but many others do and Peter and Graeme gave us a massive gift with their latest statement.
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                                                            • bostonboss
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 02-04-09
                                                              • 3169

                                                              #765
                                                              taking a bonus holds your money hostage....with a big rollover requirement.. you should never carry a large balance at an online sportsbook.....things happen. a lot of nieve people in this thread..
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                                                              • Ajs93010
                                                                SBR Rookie
                                                                • 02-14-14
                                                                • 2

                                                                #766
                                                                Originally posted by bostonboss
                                                                taking a bonus holds your money hostage....with a big rollover requirement.. you should never carry a large balance at an online sportsbook.....things happen. a lot of nieve people in this thread..

                                                                How can we get this twat banned?
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                                                                • kayjameslee
                                                                  SBR Rookie
                                                                  • 02-14-14
                                                                  • 1

                                                                  #767
                                                                  Please add me to the list please:

                                                                  Account No.: 1155619
                                                                  Country: UK
                                                                  Balance: £911.79 + £60 Court Fee
                                                                  Full Withdrawal requested on the 24th November 2013

                                                                  Thanks
                                                                  James
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                                                                  • hlorenz81
                                                                    SBR Rookie
                                                                    • 01-25-14
                                                                    • 22

                                                                    #768
                                                                    Originally posted by bostonboss
                                                                    taking a bonus holds your money hostage....with a big rollover requirement.. you should never carry a large balance at an online sportsbook.....things happen. a lot of nieve people in this thread..
                                                                    You are right, but you should understand people that now risks to lose thousands with a GC that is washing his hands. Not everybody got money to get bonus, some people gambles and i think everybody do betting to win CASH. What do you do in life? Do you live with betting or you have enough money to waste your time here?
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                                                                    • mermers
                                                                      SBR Rookie
                                                                      • 02-13-14
                                                                      • 2

                                                                      #769
                                                                      Also bostonboss, nieve is Spanish for snow! Illiterate people should use spellchecker my friend. Now toddle off and leave the grownups to the tricky stuff.
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                                                                      • alexwooty
                                                                        SBR Rookie
                                                                        • 02-13-14
                                                                        • 3

                                                                        #770
                                                                        Quick question, is it still worth filing a Small Claims Court motion (in the UK)? Or is there no point now?
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