Republican vs Democrat

[Mac4Lyfe]

ya I know the story. So I take it you were in favor of thousands of America young men going there to die and kill people? Listen, I am not criticizing those brave men that went there to fight, but they were sold out by their government. Just like WMD's in Iraq.
If I could have connections to get me out of going to Vietnam, I would eagerly pursue them. Same goes if I had a son or friend that I could help get out of going. I don't know what I would have done if I was American and old enough back then, but if there was a away to not go and I couldn't get a medical exemption, I am pretty sure I would have run off to Canada or the Caribbean somewhere to live my life rather than possibly dying in the jungle.
Why do you care so much who went over there to die? Why do you care if a guy likes to grab women? I mean, who doesn't like it? Oh, only when it is Trump is it even a talking point worth discussing.

This country was built on brave souls that were not afraid of doing what was right. Do I want war? Absolutely not. Is war sometimes necessary? Absolutely. Do you know why we went into the Vietnam war? Because of the widespread of communism of the Soviet Union and China. South Vietnam was crucial as a democratic country. Our leaders decided to go into war, whether I agree or disagree, is beyond my paygrade. My country asks me to serve, I serve. I registered to serve. My father fought in 3 wars, lost several of his close friends. This country was not born by people like you that would get an illegal deferment. True Americans citizens do not run off to Canada or the Caribbean. I respect those people who served and died for this country. Trump did not. Plus he shat on military families who lost loved one in war. That's not the example of who I want leading this country.

Why do I care if a guy likes to grab women? Huh? I'm more likely to punch a guy out for sexually assaulting a women. I don't stand for abuse. I'm amazed you would admit that you like it? What's wrong with you?

[Da Manster!]

actually just the opposite is true.

You mean your previous post where you stated Putin sodomized Trump? I didn't feel the need to respond. I didn't realize you had evidence they were having sexual relations.

When did Putin laugh and scoff at Trump? Bad guys respected Trump. Weak men, angry blue haired women, and race hustlers don't.

I heard that Trump told Putin that if he went into the Ukraine, Trump would bomb Moscow. I don't know if that is true but Trump did threaten to destroy N. Korea if Kim kept it up and we all know how that turned out.

You last sentence is utter nonsense. Its the opposite of what you claim.

[DwightShrute]

This country was built on brave souls that were not afraid of doing what was right. Do I want war? Absolutely not. Is war sometimes necessary? Absolutely. Do you know why we went into the Vietnam war? Because of the widespread of communism of the Soviet Union and China. South Vietnam was crucial as a democratic country. Our leaders decided to go into war, whether I agree or disagree, is beyond my paygrade. My country asks me to serve, I serve. I registered to serve. My father fought in 3 wars, lost several of his close friends. This country was not born by people like you that would get an illegal deferment. True Americans citizens do not run off to Canada or the Caribbean. I respect those people who served and died for this country. Trump did not. Plus he shat on military families who lost loved one in war. That's not the example of who I want leading this country.

Why do I care if a guy likes to grab women? Huh? I'm more likely to punch a guy out for sexually assaulting a women. I don't stand for abuse. I'm amazed you would admit that you like it? What's wrong with you?

nice non-answer hiding behind whether you agree or disagree. That was the question if you agreed. Just because your Leaders decided to go into war, doesn't mean it was right. History shows it wasn't right. Same goes for Iraq and Afghanistan. I can agree with certain wars while disagreeing with others and lumped into the category of agreeing will all war or no wars. That's childish. The country has always existed full of people who didn't always agree with their country every single time their government decided to send their young to war. I respect anyone who died for their country and those that served. That isn't the point despite that's what you accuse me of saying. There were countless people who didn't want to die in Vietnam. Muhammad Ali was one of them. I don't think any less of him for not wanting to go and I don't think that about anyone else who didn't. BBBBut Trump!!! LOL.

Trump did not shit on Military families. That is a lie.

JFC you guys are infatuated with Trump. You guys will forgive just about anyone for doing all sorts of things but never Trump. He went bankrupt. Ya so did millions of others. Trump had sex outside the marriage. OMG that's never happened before! LOL You just witnessed a blatant weatherization of the justice system against a political opponent and a blatant rigging of the election but you will still deny any of it. In fact, its even worse, you will applaud it. That's fukking pathetic.

You are the one that said "Trump grabbed ass of a girl you used to date." LOL. OMG So what if he grabbed a girl's ass? That's been going on since the beginning of time. What's wrong with you?

[DwightShrute]

Sheep need to be fed information. Wolves hunt for it.

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[Mac4Lyfe]

nice non-answer hiding behind whether you agree or disagree. That was the question if you agreed. Just because your Leaders decided to go into war, doesn't mean it was right. History shows it wasn't right. Same goes for Iraq and Afghanistan. I can agree with certain wars while disagreeing with others and lumped into the category of agreeing will all war or no wars. That's childish. The country has always existed full of people who didn't always agree with their country every single time their government decided to send their young to war. I respect anyone who died for their country and those that served. That isn't the point despite that's what you accuse me of saying. There were countless people who didn't want to die in Vietnam. Muhammad Ali was one of them. I don't think any less of him for not wanting to go and I don't think that about anyone else who didn't. BBBBut Trump!!! LOL.

Trump did not shit on Military families. That is a lie.

JFC you guys are infatuated with Trump. You guys will forgive just about anyone for doing all sorts of things but never Trump. He went bankrupt. Ya so did millions of others. Trump had sex outside the marriage. OMG that's never happened before! LOL You just witnessed a blatant weatherization of the justice system against a political opponent and a blatant rigging of the election but you will still deny any of it. In fact, its even worse, you will applaud it. That's fukking pathetic.

You are the one that said "Trump grabbed ass of a girl you used to date." LOL. OMG So what if he grabbed a girl's ass? That's been going on since the beginning of time. What's wrong with you?

I'm not hiding behind anything. If I'm called to serve, I'm going to serve, not run off to some other country or lie/cheat to get an illegal excuse. As a US citizen, I can't pick and choose which wars I fight. When your number is called, you serve. Both Klitschko brothers are fighting Russia for Ukraine and they're in their 50s. If Muhammad Ali ran for president, I wouldn't vote for him either. Ali's stance was that America didn't recognize him as a black man. He didn't feel free in this country. Why would he fight for a country that didn't believe in him? I can understand that. Trump and his dad made their money in the US. They lived high on the hog. Why wouldn't they serve and protect what they built here? Do you think Trump would die for his country? Of course not. Why do I want that guy?

Sorry but I don't know anyone else that has filed multiple bankruptcies. Maybe that's just who you hang around. The only other president that was divorced was Ronald Reagan but that was when he was young and he had a stable marriage with Nancy. I don't know anyone, let alone a president that would sexually assault women. Is that something you do? That is not normal behavior and whoever does that should be locked up. There is nothing I can think I hate more than sexual assault. Forcing ones self on someone with less power is sick and you are actually trying to condone it.

[getaloadoffatso]

More story time with Mac
Always fairytale name dropping and spewing out nonsense
Self absorbed idiot

[Mac4Lyfe]

More story time with Mac
Always fairytale name dropping and spewing out nonsense
Self absorbed idiot

Join date 3-14-23... Yeah, sorry but you don't check out. Alter

[Mac4Lyfe]

Sucks to be you... And I'm sure I challenged your alter if you were here before. Anytime you want to have a timely wager on any of my stories just PM me and we can confirm. But you don't need my stories. Trump's history is very well known and documented.

[getaloadoffatso]

Join date 3-14-23... Yeah, sorry but you don't check out. Alter

Mac is the only guy who could take Trump's conviction and somehow make it about himself

[Mac4Lyfe]

More story time with Mac
Always fairytale name dropping and spewing out nonsense
Self absorbed idiot

Are you cuddling up with your My Trump Pillow? How will you ever go on with Trump in jail? Momma said there'll be days like this. Stay away from tall buildings.

[Mac4Lyfe]

Mac is the only guy who could take Trump's conviction and somehow make it about himself

Never heard of you but you obviously have heard of me. So yeah, it is all about me.

[Hareeba!]

Mike Lawler in 2016 based on no evidence:

"LockHerUp"

Mike Lawler in 2024 based on actual evidence, a trial, and a jury:

"Why are you being so unfair to Donald Trump?!"

This guy is a hack, NY17.

An absolute, verifiable hack.

[mjsuax13]

ya I know the story. So I take it you were in favor of thousands of America young men going there to die and kill people? Listen, I am not criticizing those brave men that went there to fight, but they were sold out by their government. Just like WMD's in Iraq.

If I could have connections to get me out of going to Vietnam, I would eagerly pursue them. Same goes if I had a son or friend that I could help get out of going. I don't know what I would have done if I was American and old enough back then, but if there was a away to not go and I couldn't get a medical exemption, I am pretty sure I would have run off to Canada or the Caribbean somewhere to live my life rather than possibly dying in the jungle.

Why do you care so much who went over there to die? Why do you care if a guy likes to grab women? I mean, who doesn't like it? Oh, only when it is Trump is it even a talking point worth discussing.

Rich people never fight the wars in this country no matter what. That war is definitely a stain on our history. The way our soldiers were treated when they came back. Disgusting. They were sold out by I the government. I will tell you… My dad couldn’t wait to get enlisted.

My family had 7 total go to the Vietnam war. My dad, his 3 brothers and their 3 cousins. Only 5 came back. In fact- my dad was 101st Airborne/Screaming Eagles and he would parachute right into the carnage. 10 days at Hamburger Hill. Battles all over the country. The stuff they saw and had to do to stay alive can’t be written anywhere. 3 total tours for him to avenge his brother and cousins death and the 73 year old version of him would do it again. He didn’t look at it as “going over there to die”.. he simply was prepared to die with his brothers, cousins and friends because he believed in this country and had trust in the government. Of course- they fu*ked them in the end.

[DwightShrute]

Rich people never fight the wars in this country no matter what. That war is definitely a stain on our history. The way our soldiers were treated when they came back. Disgusting. They were sold out by I will tell you… My dad couldn’t wait to get enlisted.

My family had 7 total go to the Vietnam war. My dad, his 3 brothers and their 3 cousins. Only 5 came back. In fact- my dad was 101st Airborne/Screaming Eagles and he would parachute right into the carnage. 10 days at Hamburger Hill. Battles all over the country. The stuff they saw and had to do to stay alive can’t be written anywhere. 3 total tours for him to avenge his brother and cousins death and the 73 year old version of him would do it again. He didn’t look at it as “going over there to die”.. he simply was prepared to die with his brothers, cousins and friends because he believed in this country and had trust in the government. Of course- they fu*ked them in the end.

Oh man that is a story. It was a different world back then. I get that they believed in their country for sure and I think those that do/did fight for their country are the best of the country. I mean, willing to give your life is the ultimate sacrifice and don't get me wrong, I wasn't attempting to disparage anyone that went there. All I was doing was countering Mac's relentless attacks on someone who never went, namely Trump and all those that were against that particular war. I don't think any less of someone who didn't want to fight. I definitely don't think more of someone who didn't want to go to Vietnam than those that went. I just have empathy for those that didn't.

So many brave young men died overseas who never had a chance to live their lives. That's the sad part. War is awful and veterans seem to get a raw deal when they return all the time. Rather than spending over a half a trillion of paying off student loans in exchange for votes for taking basket weaving or gender studies classes, that money would be better spent on veterans.

I totally respect military people and the USA is still the greatest country in history.

[Mac4Lyfe]

So many brave young men died overseas who never had a chance to live their lives. That's the sad part. War is awful and veterans seem to get a raw deal when they return all the time. Rather than spending over a half a trillion of paying off student loans in exchange for votes for taking basket weaving or gender studies classes, that money would be better spent on veterans.
I totally respect military people and the USA is still the greatest country in history.

HUH? What raw deal they get from the government? It was not the government, it was some of the dumb American people that spat on US servicemen and women. The government did what it could and spent billions of dollars in relief to veterans. The Vietnam war cost over a trillion dollars. The war in Iran cost a trillion, the Afghan war cost $2 trillion. That's $300 million dollars a day for 20 years. $300 million a day. We paid billions to bail out the banks, savings and loans scandals, we paid billions to bail out the airline industry. The US government has been bailing out people, industries, companies since 1792. Why you mad about helping millions of students pay off their loans that end up impacting our economy anyway. You rather send that money to Ukraine or give kids here in our own backyard a chance? Hell, Covid cost us taxpayers $4.7 trillion dollars in bailouts. Of course Trump paid about $500 in taxes. Fukker.

Veterans get fantastic benefits in this country. VA benefits include disability compensation, pension, education and training, health care, home loans, insurance, Veteran Readiness and Employment, and burial. Most states offer special benefits for service members, Veterans and their families including disabled Veteran property tax exemptions, Military Department GI Bill, education and tuition assistance, military and Veteran vehicle license plates, as well as hunting and fishing license privileges. Most companies give discounts for veterans. I pay over $20k a year in property taxes. Veterans in Texas don't pay a dime. I'm not mad, veterans deserve everything they get but don't get it twisted. Veterans in this country have been well taken care of. The government did not forget. It's people you look up to like Trump that forgot.

[Mac4Lyfe]

and to be clear the US government still pays out about 30 Billion a year to Vietnam vets families. This country takes care of its own. This country has protected your island, whether you know it or not. You would be ruled by communists today if the USA didn't take care of your interests too.

[mjsuax13]

Oh man that is a story. It was a different world back then. I get that they believed in their country for sure and I think those that do/did fight for their country are the best of the country. I mean, willing to give your life is the ultimate sacrifice and don't get me wrong, I wasn't attempting to disparage anyone that went there. All I was doing was countering Mac's relentless attacks on someone who never went, namely Trump and all those that were against that particular war. I don't think any less of someone who didn't want to fight. I definitely don't think more of someone who didn't want to go to Vietnam than those that went. I just have empathy for those that didn't.

So many brave young men died overseas who never had a chance to live their lives. That's the sad part. War is awful and veterans seem to get a raw deal when they return all the time. Rather than spending over a half a trillion of paying off student loans in exchange for votes for taking basket weaving or gender studies classes, that money would be better spent on veterans.

I totally respect military people and the USA is still the greatest country in history.

I get your position. It was a messed up time. Our veterans have been mostly forgotten while we try to fix everyone else’s problems. There are many programs but the bureaucracy is a zoo. When my dad got back in the states in December of 1974 he came home to a different country than he left. That will mess with you a bit. “What did I even fight for?”
He immediately got a job driving trucks cross country and lived an invisible existence for the next 4.5 years until I came along December 1979.

There was a cloud over the many families and family until my grandparents and great aunt were 6 feet under. They never got over burying their kids. Always an empty chair in the room. My brother and I used to drill my dad with 1000 questions about war and he would share a little bit each time but his ultimate message was all that USA, Red White and Blue, Yankee Doodle, Uncle Sam shit, rah rah rah, etc… goes out the window when you are in the middle of a war zone in some far away land. It’s just you, the enemy everywhere and your brothers. He would tell you that he enlisted as a wide eyed 19 year old kid and by the time he left Vietnam at 22 he was a stone faced killing machine. Totally a different time.

[mjsuax13]

and to be clear the US government still pays out about 30 Billion a year to Vietnam vets families. This country takes care of its own. This country has protected your island, whether you know it or not. You would be ruled by communists today if the USA didn't take care of your interests too.

The VA has really modernized. The one my uncle
goes to is like a country club.

[BOA12]

I get your position. It was a messed up time. Our veterans have been mostly forgotten while we try to fix everyone else’s problems. There are many programs but the bureaucracy is a zoo. When my dad got back in the states in December of 1974 he came home to a different country than he left. That will mess with you a bit. “What did I even fight for?”
He immediately got a job driving trucks cross country and lived an invisible existence for the next 4.5 years until I came along December 1979.

There was a cloud over the many families and family until my grandparents and great aunt were 6 feet under. They never got over burying their kids. Always an empty chair in the room. My brother and I used to drill my dad with 1000 questions about war and he would share a little bit each time but his ultimate message was all that USA, Red White and Blue, Yankee Doodle, Uncle Sam shit, rah rah rah, etc… goes out the window when you are in the middle of a war zone in some far away land. It’s just you, the enemy everywhere and your brothers. He would tell you that he enlisted as a wide eyed 19 year old kid and by the time he left Vietnam at 22 he was a stone faced killing machine. Totally a different time.

I hope none of your family members were KIA after 1968, full blame goes on nixon holding up peace plans to get ELECTED.

LIKE nancyboy cutting a deal with khomanie? to hold on to the hostages to get ELECTED.

R refuse to invest in OUR people. infrastructure or YOUR children's future, that is THEIR platform.

R only help vets when shamed into it.

trump didn't want to be around any disabled vets, feeling guilty as a draft dodger/Commander In Chief?

[DwightShrute]

I get your position. It was a messed up time. Our veterans have been mostly forgotten while we try to fix everyone else’s problems. There are many programs but the bureaucracy is a zoo. When my dad got back in the states in December of 1974 he came home to a different country than he left. That will mess with you a bit. “What did I even fight for?”
He immediately got a job driving trucks cross country and lived an invisible existence for the next 4.5 years until I came along December 1979.

There was a cloud over the many families and family until my grandparents and great aunt were 6 feet under. They never got over burying their kids. Always an empty chair in the room. My brother and I used to drill my dad with 1000 questions about war and he would share a little bit each time but his ultimate message was all that USA, Red White and Blue, Yankee Doodle, Uncle Sam shit, rah rah rah, etc… goes out the window when you are in the middle of a war zone in some far away land. It’s just you, the enemy everywhere and your brothers. He would tell you that he enlisted as a wide eyed 19 year old kid and by the time he left Vietnam at 22 he was a stone faced killing machine. Totally a different time.

Thanks for acknowledging my position as to where I was coming from and how messed up things were back then. My take was focused on a person's choice on whether to go or not to during that specific time, and the human aspects of those decisions. The empty chairs and all those questions like you mentioned.

[Mac4Lyfe]

I get your position. It was a messed up time. Our veterans have been mostly forgotten while we try to fix everyone else’s problems. There are many programs but the bureaucracy is a zoo. When my dad got back in the states in December of 1974 he came home to a different country than he left. That will mess with you a bit. “What did I even fight for?”
He immediately got a job driving trucks cross country and lived an invisible existence for the next 4.5 years until I came along December 1979.

There was a cloud over the many families and family until my grandparents and great aunt were 6 feet under. They never got over burying their kids. Always an empty chair in the room. My brother and I used to drill my dad with 1000 questions about war and he would share a little bit each time but his ultimate message was all that USA, Red White and Blue, Yankee Doodle, Uncle Sam shit, rah rah rah, etc… goes out the window when you are in the middle of a war zone in some far away land. It’s just you, the enemy everywhere and your brothers. He would tell you that he enlisted as a wide eyed 19 year old kid and by the time he left Vietnam at 22 he was a stone faced killing machine. Totally a different time.

Very sad. It’s really unthinkable the loss, the grief, the sacrifice. I feel for your family.

[Mac4Lyfe]

Thanks for acknowledging my position as to where I was coming from and how messed up things were back then. My take was focused on a person's choice on whether to go or not to during that specific time, and the human aspects of those decisions. The empty chairs and all those questions like you mentioned.

What choice? There is no choice in the US. All men MUST register for military service in the US. It’s not a choice, it’s the law. When you are called, you must go. https://www.sss.gov/

[DwightShrute]

and to be clear the US government still pays out about 30 Billion a year to Vietnam vets families. This country takes care of its own. This country has protected your island, whether you know it or not. You would be ruled by communists today if the USA didn't take care of your interests too.

let's be real, that is their duty to allocate tax dollars to vets and their families. Maybe I just imagined all the negative stories about the VA over the years. My bad.

Ya if it wasn't for the USA, we could be speaking German and definitely wouldn't be as free as we are today. I have admitted that fact and have been a cheerleader for the US for my entire life.

You act as if Trump not going to war is a travesty because the Left told you that's the narrative you should push. I just call out bullshit when I see it.

[DwightShrute]

What choice? There is no choice in the US. All men MUST register for military service in the US. It’s not a choice, it’s the law. When you are called, you must go. https://www.sss.gov/

everyone has a choice.

[str]

everyone has a choice.

Not when it came to the U.S. draft Dwight. Mac's right .

[DwightShrute]

Not when it came to the U.S. draft Dwight. Mac's right .

Think about it. Choosing not to go is still a choice. All choices have consequences, but they are still choices.

[str]

Think about it. Choosing not to go is still a choice. All choices have consequences, but they are still choices.

Your kidding right?
You are jailed and marked as a traitor and a draft dodger back in the late 60’s early 70’s.
That ruined peoples lives and families back then .

Is that the choice you refer to?

[BOA12]

Your kidding right?
You are jailed and marked as a traitor and a draft dodger back in the late 60’s early 70’s.
That ruined peoples lives and families back then .

Is that the choice you refer to?

Foreign Agitator Dwite is ignorant by design. No kidding.

The biggest tool in Pandora's Box.

[DwightShrute]

Your kidding right?
You are jailed and marked as a traitor and a draft dodger back in the late 60’s early 70’s.
That ruined peoples lives and families back then .

Is that the choice you refer to?

Kidding about you having choices?

Everyday you make countless choices don't you?

You could make a choice and decide to rob a bank knowing the consequences if caught that you could be jailed and marked as a criminal.

You could go to the pub and watch a game, drink way too much, drive home and get a DUI or worse, you could kill someone. Then you will go to prison and be marked as a criminal.

You will have ruined people's lives and families.
Choices. You make em all the time. Hopefully you will choose not to continue discussing whether you have choices.

[str]

Kidding about you having choices?

Everyday you make countless choices don't you?

You could make a choice and decide to rob a bank knowing the consequences if caught that you could be jailed and marked as a criminal.

You could go to the pub and watch a game, drink way too much, drive home and get a DUI or worse, you could kill someone. Then you will go to prison and be marked as a criminal.

You will have ruined people's lives and families.
Choices. You make em all the time. Hopefully you will choose not to continue discussing whether you have choices.

This is Romper room stuff. What, 8 and under?
That's so sad Dwight.

You actually have no idea at all do you.

No answer necessary. It's rhetorical.

I know Dwight... Trump strong...Biden weak. Strong man... weak man...

Wow.

[DwightShrute]

This is Romper room stuff. What, 8 and under?
That's so sad Dwight.

You actually have no idea at all do you.

No answer necessary. It's rhetorical.

I know Dwight... Trump strong...Biden weak. Strong man... weak man...

Wow.

No dude. I simply pointed out life is full of choices. Which it is. This isn't even debatable and its got nothing to do with Trump or Biden or anything else.

You are just arguing for the sake of arguing, and that my friend, is Romper Room stuff. I was more of an Electric Company kid.

[str]

No dude. I simply pointed out life is full of choices. Which it is. This isn't even debatable and its got nothing to do with Trump or Biden or anything else.

You are just arguing for the sake of arguing, and that my friend, is Romper Room stuff. I was more of an Electric Company kid.

I'm not arguing at all. Just pointing out how ridiculous your response was.

But when I was your age I was so much older then, like you, But I'm younger than that now.

GL .

[Hareeba!]

“She shouldn’t be allowed to run...If she wins, it would create an unprecedented constitutional crisis. In that situation, we could very well have a sitting president under felony indictment and, ultimately, a criminal trial. It would grind government to a halt.”

https://x.com/i/status/1796553224293589011

[BOA12]

“She shouldn’t be allowed to run...If she wins, it would create an unprecedented constitutional crisis. In that situation, we could very well have a sitting president under felony indictment and, ultimately, a criminal trial. It would grind government to a halt.”

https://x.com/i/status/1796553224293589011

Short memories and guts the R greatest attribute.

Zipper flipper everywhere condemning justice.

I always remember.

[DwightShrute]

they think you are stupid and they are not necessarily wrong becuase you guys keep buying their nonsense.

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