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  • DwightShrute
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 01-17-09
    • 102503

    #4971
    Originally posted by jackpot269
    If the wall cost were anywhere close to Trump's original estimates I would be more inclined to change my mind but I still can't get passed taking private land and/or a natural resource from USA citizens.

    The border in my lifetime has never been secured. Not even under Trump. Now we have the large numbers crossing and something needs to be done. Unlike you and others I'm not convinced the wall is the best use of money to do all we can to have as few as possible cross.
    Dude, look all around you and you will see government taking private land. The road you drive on or the airport you fly out of probably. What could be more important than protecting the border from million of people illegally coming into the country?
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    • Optional
      Administrator
      • 06-10-10
      • 60849

      #4972
      Originally posted by DwightShrute
      Trump is a fighter. He is taking on the establishment head on. People respect that. Normal decent people.
      How many lies are you willing to believe? Is there a limit? Since 2015 there have been dozens of lies and fabricated stories repeated as truths, when in fact they were not true. Me and others have listed dozens of examples. Yet, you guy are like Charlie Brown running up to that football believing that this time it will be different. It unexplainable. TDS is a real.
      Sure I get that. But given his bases willingness to accept/excuse/encourage how he is acting, I think it is fair to say he does present a risk to long term democracy as we know it in the USA.

      Is that so tough to own? You sound like you want change but then argue neither you or Trump want change when anyone brings it up.




      And as far as lies. I am speaking about Trumps own words and news conferences. How on earth do you twist that into me believing lies?

      You're confusing at times.
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      • Hareeba!
        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
        • 07-01-06
        • 36894

        #4973
        Originally posted by jackpot269
        If the wall cost were anywhere close to Trump's original estimates I would be more inclined to change my mind but I still can't get passed taking private land and/or a natural resource from USA citizens.

        The border in my lifetime has never been secured. Not even under Trump. Now we have the large numbers crossing and something needs to be done. Unlike you and others I'm not convinced the wall is the best use of money to do all we can to have as few as possible cross.
        And there's DipShit full of it again!

        The post I made referred to a specific bipartisan Senate bill and it was endorsed by the Border Control Union.
        The National Border Patrol Council, which endorsed Donald Trump for president in 2020, said the new bipartisan bill "will drop illegal border crossings nationwide."


        But he chooses as usual to falsely label my post a lie.


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        • DwightShrute
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 01-17-09
          • 102503

          #4974
          Originally posted by Optional
          Sure I get that. But given his bases willingness to accept/excuse/encourage how he is acting, I think it is fair to say he does present a risk to long term democracy as we know it in the USA.

          Is that so tough to own? You sound like you want change but then argue neither you or Trump want change when anyone brings it up.




          And as far as lies. I am speaking about Trumps own words and news conferences. How on earth do you twist that into me believing lies?

          You're confusing at times.
          You are looking the wrong way. Remember this saying … when they are telling you where to look, they are telling you where not to look.

          do you really believe that any of these indictments and charges would have taken place if Trump wasn’t running again? I mean they impeached him after he left office. Come on!

          the FBI tried to bribe someone with a million dollars to say he Steele dossier was real! If you were Trump, how can you ever trust the FBI? It goes without saying that I am referring to the higher-ups and not the thousands of agents. Trump has made that crystal clear as well. Opti, 51 former intelligence officials signed a letter saying the Hunter laptop story was Russian disinformation. It was a lie they all colluded together in order to deceive the voters right before the election. These are people who were the heads of the CIA and other agencies.

          You aren’t dumb, but do you seriously not have the slightest doubt about any of this? It sure sounds like you don’t, and that is the confusing part to me.
          Last edited by DwightShrute; 02-18-24, 07:56 PM.
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          • DwightShrute
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 01-17-09
            • 102503

            #4975
            Originally posted by Hareeba!
            And there's DipShit full of it again!

            The post I made referred to a specific bipartisan Senate bill and it was endorsed by the Border Control Union.
            The National Border Patrol Council, which endorsed Donald Trump for president in 2020, said the new bipartisan bill "will drop illegal border crossings nationwide."


            But he chooses as usual to falsely label my post a lie.


            Because it purposely misleading. That is dishonest and you do lie often. Heck, you claim to have me on ignore but yet you still reply to my posts. Grifters do things like that.
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            • Optional
              Administrator
              • 06-10-10
              • 60849

              #4976
              Originally posted by DwightShrute
              You are looking the wrong way. Remember this saying … when they are telling you where to look, they are telling you where not to look.

              do you really believe that any of these indictments and charges would have taken place if Trump wasn’t running again? I mean they impeached him after he left office. Come on!

              the FBI tried to bribe someone with a million dollars to say he Steele dossier was real! If you were Trump, how can you ever trust the FBI? It goes without saying that I am referring to the higher-ups and not the thousands of agents. Trump has made that crystal clear as well. Opti, 51 former intelligence officials signed a letter saying the Hunter laptop story was Russian disinformation. It was a lie they all colluded together in order to deceive the voters right before the election. These are people who were the heads of the CIA and other agencies.

              You aren’t dumb, but do you seriously not have the slightest doubt about any of this? It sure sounds like you don’t, and that is the confusing part to me.
              Not all of them.

              But the classified docs one clearly started before any electioneering, as a simple mole hill size issue. And seems like the authorities bent over backwards to just solve the issue amicably. So yes I do believe that one would be going either way, and is properly justified. And should continue election or not.

              E Jean whatshername would also be going either way, and whatever we think about her motivations, she had him on the hook as soon as the civil court said he was liable.

              In both those cases Trump ramped it up to this problematic point himself. Can't be crying foul its all political when he intentionally drove it to this point.


              I've said a few times how I think most of the other cases are flawed or unreasonable. So yes I can entertain the "slightest doubt". Can you?
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              • Hareeba!
                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                • 07-01-06
                • 36894

                #4977
                Originally posted by Optional
                Not all of them.

                But the classified docs one clearly started before any electioneering, as a simple mole hill size issue. And seems like the authorities bent over backwards to just solve the issue amicably. So yes I do believe that one would be going either way, and is properly justified. And should continue election or not.

                E Jean whatshername would also be going either way, and whatever we think about her motivations, she had him on the hook as soon as the civil court said he was liable.

                In both those cases Trump ramped it up to this problematic point himself. Can't be crying foul its all political when he intentionally drove it to this point.


                I've said a few times how I think most of the other cases are flawed or unreasonable. So yes I can entertain the "slightest doubt". Can you?
                Work on Letitia James' NY case was commenced well before TFG had announced his candidacy.
                Indeed, even before he got soundly beaten in the 2020 election!
                Last edited by Hareeba!; 02-18-24, 08:30 PM.
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                • DwightShrute
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 01-17-09
                  • 102503

                  #4978
                  Originally posted by Optional
                  Not all of them.

                  But the classified docs one clearly started before any electioneering, as a simple mole hill size issue. And seems like the authorities bent over backwards to just solve the issue amicably. So yes I do believe that one would be going either way, and is properly justified. And should continue election or not.

                  E Jean whatshername would also be going either way, and whatever we think about her motivations, she had him on the hook as soon as the civil court said he was liable.

                  In both those cases Trump ramped it up to this problematic point himself. Can't be crying foul its all political when he intentionally drove it to this point.


                  I've said a few times how I think most of the other cases are flawed or unreasonable. So yes I can entertain the "slightest doubt". Can you?
                  So you think e Jean whatsherface is credible after how many decades? So she can accuse Trump of rape without a sliver of evidence but Trump is liable for millions for calling her a lunatic? Does that sound reasonable to you? What a joke.

                  Trump was allowed to have classified docs. Biden wasn’t and he wasn’t even changed. But hey, be puzzled as to why someone questions the law and prosecutors.
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                  • Optional
                    Administrator
                    • 06-10-10
                    • 60849

                    #4979
                    Originally posted by Hareeba!

                    Work on Letitia James' NY case was commenced well before TFG had announced his candidacy.
                    Indeed, even before he got soundly beaten in the 2020 election!
                    Isn't that the one where she made an election promise to get him legally?

                    If so I am throwing that in the tainted bag.

                    Might be legally justified still. But was it really a reasonable cause of action?
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                    • DwightShrute
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 01-17-09
                      • 102503

                      #4980
                      Originally posted by Hareeba!
                      Work on Letitia James' NY case was commenced well before TFG had announced his candidacy.
                      Indeed, even before he got soundly beaten in the 2020 election!
                      That’s just silly and dishonest . Everyone knew Trump was running. Election rules don’t allow candidates to announce their intention before a certain date. Several times before that date, Trump repeating said you will like my decision when that time comes. Someone along those lines.
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                      • Optional
                        Administrator
                        • 06-10-10
                        • 60849

                        #4981
                        Originally posted by DwightShrute
                        So you think e Jean whatsherface is credible after how many decades? So she can accuse Trump of rape without a sliver of evidence but Trump is liable for millions for calling her a lunatic? Does that sound reasonable to you? What a joke.

                        Trump was allowed to have classified docs. Biden wasn’t and he wasn’t even changed. But hey, be puzzled as to why someone questions the law and prosecutors.
                        Nope. I think a court found her credible. And that should have been the end of it. She would be a forgotten footnote in history by now if Trump never mentioned her name again after the umpire made the ruling. But that case is barely even relevant to his current problems with.

                        I don't need to explain. You know what happened same as me. Trump defied the courts and repeatedly defamed her.

                        Do you find that statement credible?
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                        • DwightShrute
                          SBR Aristocracy
                          • 01-17-09
                          • 102503

                          #4982
                          Originally posted by Optional
                          Nope. I think a court found her credible. And that should have been the end of it. She would be a forgotten footnote in history by now if Trump never mentioned her name again after the umpire made the ruling. But that case is barely even relevant to his current problems with.

                          I don't need to explain. You know what happened same as me. Trump defied the courts and repeatedly defamed her.

                          Do you find that statement credible?
                          Trump defied a sham court case, crooked judge and without a shred of evidence as to what’s he’s accused of decades before.

                          She defamed him. None of this would have happened if he didn’t run for president . I doubt she will ever see a penny. She’s a lunatic as is the judge.
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                          • Optional
                            Administrator
                            • 06-10-10
                            • 60849

                            #4983
                            Originally posted by DwightShrute
                            Trump defied a sham court case, crooked judge and without a shred of evidence as to what’s he’s accused of decades before.

                            She defamed him. None of this would have happened if he didn’t run for president . I doubt she will ever see a penny. She’s a lunatic as is the judge.
                            The court system isn't perfect. Sometimes you lose in civil court when you should not.

                            51% sure of liability leaves a lot of area for not being sure still.

                            But we ALL have to accept it once all legal routes are exhausted or it's just anarchy. ie: end of democracy.


                            And like I said above, it's a bit lame to be saying it's all political when you are intentionally defying the courts orders.

                            If it is political, then it's political because Trump wanted to make it political after the initial loss.
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                            • d2bets
                              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                              • 08-10-05
                              • 39990

                              #4984
                              Originally posted by Optional
                              The court system isn't perfect. Sometimes you lose in civil court when you should not.

                              51% sure of liability leaves a lot of area for not being sure still.

                              But we ALL have to accept it once all legal routes are exhausted or it's just anarchy. ie: end of democracy.


                              And like I said above, it's a bit lame to be saying it's all political when you are intentionally defying the courts orders.

                              If it is political, then it's political because Trump wanted to make it political after the initial loss.
                              Exactly. Everyone thinks their innocent or not liable or whatever. You are what was decided. Appeal within the system. If you lose, you lost. Trump will never accept the fact, and neither will his cultists.
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                              • Hareeba!
                                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                • 07-01-06
                                • 36894

                                #4985
                                Originally posted by Hareeba!
                                Latest historical president ratings poll at Fox
                                When asked to identify the most polarizing presidents, Trump once again stood out, being selected by a significant number of respondents as the most polarizing figure in U.S. presidential history.

                                His divisive nature was evident, with experts ranking him far above other presidents like Andrew Jackson, Barack Obama, and Ronald Reagan in terms of polarization.
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                                • slewfan
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 10-01-15
                                  • 15787

                                  #4986
                                  The judge is not credible nor are the prosecutors. It should not matter if Trump made it political. The first time ever the real estate rulings against Trump are taking place. A total sham. Umpires get it wrong all the time. That’s why there are video replays

                                  America is being led by an insurrectionist administration at the present time. In my view, anyone who cannot see what is taking place or refuses to admit such, is lying to themselves.
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                                  • DwightShrute
                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                    • 01-17-09
                                    • 102503

                                    #4987
                                    Originally posted by slewfan
                                    The judge is not credible nor are the prosecutors. It should not matter if Trump made it political. The first time ever the real estate rulings against Trump are taking place. A total sham. Umpires get it wrong all the time. That’s why there are video replays

                                    America is being led by an insurrectionist administration at the present time. In my view, anyone who cannot see what is taking place or refuses to admit such, is lying to themselves.
                                    100%
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                                    • slewfan
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 10-01-15
                                      • 15787

                                      #4988
                                      ]Dems keep flipping the script.

                                      It’s always Opposite Day for them: Whatever they say, the opposite is the truth.

                                      Up is down and black is white.

                                      And because Democrats control most of the media, they get to make the truth whatever they want it to be.


                                      So, after three years living in President Biden’s fantasy world, we finally have fallen through the looking glass with Alice in Wonderland, where nothing is what it is because everything is what it isn’t.


                                      Biden and Dems’ total disconnect from reality: Whatever they say, trust the opposite is true



                                      Last edited by slewfan; 02-19-24, 10:01 AM.
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                                      • Da Manster!
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 07-13-07
                                        • 17720

                                        #4989
                                        Originally posted by slewfan
                                        ]Dems keep flipping the script.

                                        It’s always Opposite Day for them: Whatever they say, the opposite is the truth.

                                        Up is down and black is white.

                                        And because Democrats JEWS control most of the media, they get to make the truth whatever they want it to be.


                                        So, after three years living in President Biden’s fantasy world, we finally have fallen through the looking glass with Alice in Wonderland, where nothing is what it is because everything is what it isn’t.


                                        Biden and Dems’ total disconnect from reality: Whatever they say, trust the opposite is true



                                        fixed!...
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                                        • JIBBBY
                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                          • 12-10-09
                                          • 83692

                                          #4990
                                          Liberal crooked Judges and DA's in NY are really trying to rape Trump financially. It's crazy to think the American justice system is so corrupt and in the gutter now.

                                          Thank God for appeals and higher courts. I feel those aren't as corrupt yet.


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                                          • DwightShrute
                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                            • 01-17-09
                                            • 102503

                                            #4991
                                            Originally posted by Optional
                                            A President with no respect for the law or the courts or the intelligence services is definitely a huge threat to democracy.

                                            But I read on here from time to time that far right loonies think a dictatorship is just fine if it means they "win".

                                            So you don't care about democracy really do you? It's just a word to MAGA now. Anything to stop the majority of Americans voting you down. Eff the country. Let's break it all up.
                                            so you remember how the FBI tried to frame this guy with 10K cash and when he flew back to the US? 8 FBI agents there looking to greet him at the airport.
                                            This is another reason as to why the intelligence agencies have damaged their reputation. You of course will hear little to none of this on the MSM today and you definitely never heard it back then.

                                            If you watch the 8 minute segment, I doubt you could deny it.

                                            Imagine if he didn't give the cash to his lawyer. It would have been another Russian collusion lie they could have pushed for years. The set up backfired and then the FBI did what ever they could to discredit this guy for years.

                                            ff to 15:19 mark to 23:38


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                                            • DwightShrute
                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                              • 01-17-09
                                              • 102503

                                              #4992
                                              Originally posted by JIBBBY
                                              Liberal crooked Judges and DA's in NY are really trying to rape Trump financially. It's crazy to think the American justice system is so corrupt and in the gutter now.

                                              Thank God for appeals and higher courts. I feel those aren't as corrupt yet.


                                              Anyone can see this is what is happening. Its blatant election interference. Some far Lefties will continue to pretend otherwise.
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                                              • khicks26
                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                • 09-16-06
                                                • 45472

                                                #4993
                                                Originally posted by DwightShrute
                                                Anyone can see this is what is happening. Its blatant election interference. Some far Lefties will continue to pretend otherwise.
                                                Lies and projection is what's happening, and YOUR doing it.
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                                                • DwightShrute
                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                  • 01-17-09
                                                  • 102503

                                                  #4994
                                                  Originally posted by khicks26
                                                  Lies and projection is what's happening, and YOUR doing it.

                                                  how so?
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                                                  • khicks26
                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                    • 09-16-06
                                                    • 45472

                                                    #4995
                                                    Billionaire my ass.



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                                                    • Hareeba!
                                                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                      • 07-01-06
                                                      • 36894

                                                      #4996
                                                      Hail the new king of FAKE NEWS!

                                                      Trump Caught Scrubbing Another Fox News Article of Content He Doesn't Like

                                                      This is the 7th article MeidasTouch has caught Trump scrubbing in February

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                                                      • khicks26
                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                        • 09-16-06
                                                        • 45472

                                                        #4997
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                                                        • JIBBBY
                                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                                          • 12-10-09
                                                          • 83692

                                                          #4998
                                                          Originally posted by DwightShrute
                                                          Anyone can see this is what is happening. Its blatant election interference. Some far Lefties will continue to pretend otherwise.
                                                          The far left has been brainwashed by the fake news agenda driven media. You'd think Trump murdered people, made banks collapse, colluded still with Russia, raped and held 100's of women against their wills, etc. That is if you watch the fake news media. CNN and MSNBC.

                                                          It's all Trump hate and lies 24/7. They continue to report the borders are not open and our border patrol agents are whipping black illegals on horses.
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                                                          • DwightShrute
                                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                                            • 01-17-09
                                                            • 102503

                                                            #4999
                                                            Originally posted by JIBBBY
                                                            The far left has been brainwashed by the fake news agenda driven media. You'd think Trump murdered people, made banks collapse, colluded still with Russia, raped and held 100's of women against their wills, etc. That is if you watch the fake news media. CNN and MSNBC.

                                                            It's all Trump hate and lies 24/7. They continue to report the borders are not open and our border patrol agents are whipping black illegals on horses.
                                                            its crazy. Not long ago he had the most popular show on NBC and everyone wanted to attend a Trump party.

                                                            Now, they pretend that all these indictments have nothing to do with him running for president, that they still would have happened if he didn't run for potus, the judges are not biased, the DA isn't biased and running shoes are triggering AF.
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                                                            • Itsamazing777
                                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                                              • 11-14-12
                                                              • 12602

                                                              #5000
                                                              Originally posted by khicks26
                                                              Billionaire my ass.



                                                              He didn't start it nor did anyone who has anything to do with him
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                                                              • JIBBBY
                                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                                • 12-10-09
                                                                • 83692

                                                                #5001
                                                                Originally posted by DwightShrute
                                                                its crazy. Not long ago he had the most popular show on NBC and everyone wanted to attend a Trump party.

                                                                Now, they pretend that all these indictments have nothing to do with him running for president, that they still would have happened if he didn't run for potus, the judges are not biased, the DA isn't biased and running shoes are triggering AF.
                                                                Everyone liked Donald Trump before he ran for the Presidency. He challenged the Washington swamp and fake news media out of the gates and pissed them all off. Then Trump quickly became the anti-Christ.


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                                                                • khicks26
                                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                                  • 09-16-06
                                                                  • 45472

                                                                  #5002
                                                                  Originally posted by Itsamazing777
                                                                  He didn't start it nor did anyone who has anything to do with him
                                                                  Dude, he sold his name to it. Total cheeseball, so not a billionaire.
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                                                                  • JIBBBY
                                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                                    • 12-10-09
                                                                    • 83692

                                                                    #5003
                                                                    Donald Trump/Net worth

                                                                    2.6 billion USD
                                                                    2024
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                                                                    • DwightShrute
                                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                                      • 01-17-09
                                                                      • 102503

                                                                      #5004
                                                                      Originally posted by khicks26
                                                                      Dude, he sold his name to it. Total cheeseball, so not a billionaire.

                                                                      why do you care so much about things like this?

                                                                      No way Trump could ever win with some of you guys. If the sneakers didn't sell, then another failed business. If they sold out like they did, he's a cheese ball. He loses no matter what with you guys.

                                                                      He lowers taxes on individuals and companies and takes in more revenue for the federal government than any year ever. All guys like you do is complain how big businesses aren't paying their fair share. Well, they haven't been for decades one can argue but all of a sudden its Trump fault after only being in politics for a couple years? Oh and paying less taxes is somehow a bad thing? Bad orange man. LOL. Maybe Trump should have started another war to make you Lefties happy.

                                                                      You guys are rooting for the people who have been destroying the country for decades and somehow those same people have convinced you that its Trump's fault. That would be like Caitlyn Jenner accusing Bruce Jenner of raping her in the 80's.
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                                                                      • khicks26
                                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                                        • 09-16-06
                                                                        • 45472

                                                                        #5005
                                                                        Originally posted by DwightShrute
                                                                        why do you care so much about things like this?

                                                                        No way Trump could ever win with some of you guys. If the sneakers didn't sell, then another failed business. If they sold out like they did, he's a cheese ball. He loses no matter what with you guys.

                                                                        He lowers taxes on individuals and companies and takes in more revenue for the federal government than any year ever. All guys like you do is complain how big businesses aren't paying their fair share. Well, they haven't been for decades one can argue but all of a sudden its Trump fault after only being in politics for a couple years? Oh and paying less taxes is somehow a bad thing? Bad orange man. LOL. Maybe Trump should have started another war to make you Lefties happy.

                                                                        You guys are rooting for the people who have been destroying the country for decades and somehow those same people have convinced you that its Trump's fault. That would be like Caitlyn Jenner accusing Bruce Jenner of raping her in the 80's.
                                                                        What?

                                                                        I don't care those shoes is ugly.

                                                                        For 1 it is cheesy, just like everything Trump does. 2 billionaires don't go to Sneaker-Con to pimp ugly shoes. Total conman lying about his wealth. Doesn't matter what I think, guy loses all the time.

                                                                        Dude WTF are you talking about with tax's and money. That's a total lie.

                                                                        When did I say it was Trumps fault? Other than not paying his own tax's.

                                                                        Middle class and poor people are paying more tax's because of Trump, rich people like Trump are still paying less.

                                                                        What war did Trump end? He did kill a general that was fighting ISIS, and increased drone strikes by 140% from Obama.

                                                                        I don't like the people that run the country and Trump is one them. Get outside your bubble sometime.
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