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  • khicks26
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 09-16-06
    • 45475

    #4901
    Originally posted by JIBBBY
    I'm sure old Dementia Joe will stroke out and die any day now. Dems better have a back up plan and not Kamala Harris!

    This might just play out at the Dem convention, and maybe its the plan. That way the party gets to pick who it wants and not who the voters do.
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    • Da Manster!
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 07-13-07
      • 17720

      #4902
      Originally posted by JIBBBY
      I'm sure old Dementia Joe will stroke out and die any day now. Dems better have a back up plan and not Kamala Harris!
      Jibs, that's pretty low even for you buddy. you better hope and pray to God that Joe lives at least until November 5th so we don't have to worry about Kamala Harris being sworn into office! Like the old saying goes, be careful what you wish for, you just might get it!..
      Last edited by Da Manster!; 02-17-24, 04:37 PM.
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      • jackpot269
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 09-24-07
        • 12821

        #4903
        Originally posted by JIBBBY
        What crimes? Trump is clean. It's a political witch hunt and everyone knows it in this election year. Civil lawsuits are a joke.

        If he did something to a gold digger chick back in the day I might believe that only but all this other stuff coming up all of the sudden in this election year is a complete joke.

        Biden has Classified documents next to his Vet for years before he was President and walks. Son Hunter the crack head committed a dozen real proven crimes and is still walking free today.

        It's all a JOKE NOW!
        I will have to agree to disagree about Trump being clean. Ill humor you.

        He was asked nicely for at least nine months to give back the documents he had, and agreed too but never gave them all back. Dwight says we don't know that happened, but we should, because Trump gave at least 5 different excuses why he did turn them over.

        Georgia, Trump sent Sindey Powell and a group to Coffee CO. GA. to illegally open up voting machines and do whatever they did to them. They needed a court order they did not have. Plus all the other evidence they have in the Georgia case.
        Even If he was clean on all the cases, he is in court for now, they are many other credible cases they bring up. He has been a criminal most of his life and never had to answer for it. The USA court system is set up for the rich, not for the middle class or poor. Rich folks almost always get away with their crimes, don't you feel it's time for them to face the music like everyone else has too.
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        • Da Manster!
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 07-13-07
          • 17720

          #4904
          Originally posted by jackpot269
          I will have to agree to disagree about Trump being clean. Ill humor you.

          He was asked nicely for at least nine months to give back the documents he had, and agreed too but never gave them all back. Dwight says we don't know that happened, but we should, because Trump gave at least 5 different excuses why he did turn them over.

          Georgia, Trump sent Sindey Powell and a group to Coffee CO. GA. to illegally open up voting machines and do whatever they did to them. They needed a court order they did not have. Plus all the other evidence they have in the Georgia case.
          Even If he was clean on all the cases, he is in court for now, they are many other credible cases they bring up. He has been a criminal most of his life and never had to answer for it. The USA court system is set up for the rich, not for the middle class or poor. Rich folks almost always get away with their crimes, don't you feel it's time for them to face the music like everyone else has too.
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          • JIBBBY
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 12-10-09
            • 83693

            #4905
            Originally posted by jackpot269
            I will have to agree to disagree about Trump being clean. Ill humor you.

            He was asked nicely for at least nine months to give back the documents he had, and agreed too but never gave them all back. Dwight says we don't know that happened, but we should, because Trump gave at least 5 different excuses why he did turn them over.

            Georgia, Trump sent Sindey Powell and a group to Coffee CO. GA. to illegally open up voting machines and do whatever they did to them. They needed a court order they did not have. Plus all the other evidence they have in the Georgia case.
            Even If he was clean on all the cases, he is in court for now, they are many other credible cases they bring up. He has been a criminal most of his life and never had to answer for it. The USA court system is set up for the rich, not for the middle class or poor. Rich folks almost always get away with their crimes, don't you feel it's time for them to face the music like everyone else has too.
            You got 2 fat ugly female black DA's sworn to bring down Trump in these Blue States trying to bankrupt the former President now. It's so obvious in this election year. Witch hunt! They are making up shit at this point to charge Trump with.

            Alvin Bragg another fat deranged black Trump hater doing the same thing.







            Last edited by JIBBBY; 02-17-24, 04:50 PM.
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            • DwightShrute
              SBR Aristocracy
              • 01-17-09
              • 102510

              #4906
              you are joking right?

              Did you forget the FBI tried to bribe a British spy 1 million dollars to say the Steele dossier was real?
              Did you forget the FBI lied to a fisa court judge in order to get a warrant to spy on the Trump?
              Did you forget the FBI was in possession of Hunter's laptop for over a year and gave a head's up to social media that the NY Post was about to break the story so they could suppress it? Which they did.
              Peter Strzok and Lisa Page?
              Do I need to continue?
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              • getaloadoffatso
                SBR Wise Guy
                • 03-14-23
                • 608

                #4907
                It's incomprehensible that someone would use Vox as a credible source
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                • JIBBBY
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 12-10-09
                  • 83693

                  #4908
                  Originally posted by Da Manster!
                  Jibs, that's pretty low even for you buddy. you better hope and pray to God that Joe lives at least until November 5th so we don't have to worry about Kamala Harris being sworn into office! Like the old saying goes, be careful what you wish for, you just might get it!..
                  I'd pick Kamala over Joe at this point as crazy as that sounds. At worst Kamala doesn't need nap time daily and maybe she could interview and speak better off prompter.
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                  • DwightShrute
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 01-17-09
                    • 102510

                    #4909
                    Originally posted by jackpot269
                    I will have to agree to disagree about Trump being clean. Ill humor you.

                    He was asked nicely for at least nine months to give back the documents he had, and agreed too but never gave them all back. Dwight says we don't know that happened, but we should, because Trump gave at least 5 different excuses why he did turn them over.

                    Georgia, Trump sent Sindey Powell and a group to Coffee CO. GA. to illegally open up voting machines and do whatever they did to them. They needed a court order they did not have. Plus all the other evidence they have in the Georgia case.
                    Even If he was clean on all the cases, he is in court for now, they are many other credible cases they bring up. He has been a criminal most of his life and never had to answer for it. The USA court system is set up for the rich, not for the middle class or poor. Rich folks almost always get away with their crimes, don't you feel it's time for them to face the music like everyone else has too.
                    you keep bring that up but never that politicians illegally changed election laws in certain States using the pandemic as a reason. Sending millions of ballots to people who didn't ask for them.

                    The USA court system is also set up mostly for those with the right political affiliation. They protect their own. The swamp is deep. The deep state is deep. You really think this corrupt grifter in office today is running the country? If you do, then you are a fool. He can barely stand without falling over. He isn't even allowed to talk to the press. He was not charged with stealing classified documents because he is a weak old man who can't remember fuk all. But that seems to be fine to be president for some of you.

                    Oh but someone wanted to see how these voting machines were fixing the election and why some States refused to allow those machines in their States because they were unreliable. So none of that other stuff matters.
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                    • Da Manster!
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 07-13-07
                      • 17720

                      #4910
                      Originally posted by getaloadoffatso
                      It's incomprehensible that someone would use Vox as a credible source
                      pot calling the kettle black?!!...no more incomprehensible than Republicans getting their "news" and "information" from FOX!...
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                      • Da Manster!
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 07-13-07
                        • 17720

                        #4911
                        Originally posted by JIBBBY
                        I'd pick Kamala over Joe at this point as crazy as that sounds. At worst Kamala doesn't need nap time daily and maybe she could interview and speak better off prompter.
                        Nah, I'd much rather ride it out with Joe! (I want absolutely no part of Kamala Harris at this point and juncture)...Besides, what's a few more months? Nov. 5th will be here before you know it!...
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                        • Hareeba!
                          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                          • 07-01-06
                          • 36897

                          #4912
                          Trump is currently getting booed off the stage in Philadelphia

                          https://twitter.com/i/status/1758983364034330689



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                          • Da Manster!
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 07-13-07
                            • 17720

                            #4913
                            Originally posted by DwightShrute
                            you are joking right?

                            Did you forget the FBI tried to bribe a British spy 1 million dollars to say the Steele dossier was real?
                            Did you forget the FBI lied to a fisa court judge in order to get a warrant to spy on the Trump?
                            Did you forget the FBI was in possession of Hunter's laptop for over a year and gave a head's up to social media that the NY Post was about to break the story so they could suppress it? Which they did.
                            Peter Strzok and Lisa Page?
                            Do I need to continue?
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                            • getaloadoffatso
                              SBR Wise Guy
                              • 03-14-23
                              • 608

                              #4914
                              Originally posted by Da Manster!
                              pot calling the kettle black?!!...no more incomprehensible than Republicans getting their "news" and "information" from FOX!...
                              Well, I'm not a Republican and certainly am aware that Fox is biased, although no more bias than any other MSM source

                              And then there's Vox

                              Other than that, you got me
                              Last edited by getaloadoffatso; 02-17-24, 06:39 PM.
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                              • DwightShrute
                                SBR Aristocracy
                                • 01-17-09
                                • 102510

                                #4915
                                Originally posted by Da Manster!
                                A quick google search will show you. Doesn't have to be google. It took less than a minute.


                                CNNhttps://www.cnn.com › 2022/10/11 › politics › steele-dos...
                                Oct 11, 2022 — Shortly before the 2016 election, the FBI offered retired British spy Christopher Steele “up to $1 million” to prove the explosive

                                AP Newshttps://apnews.com › article
                                Aug 19, 2020 — A former FBI lawyer has pleaded guilty to altering a document related to the secret surveillance of a former Trump campaign adviser during ...

                                New York Posthttps://nypost.com › 2023/06/22 › fbi-verified-authentici...
                                Jun 22, 2023 — IRS supervisory agent Gary Shapley told Congress that Hunter Biden's laptop was "verified" in November 2019 and an expert assessed "it was ...

                                Testimony Reveals FBI Employees Who Warned Social Media ...
                                House Judiciary Committee Republicans | (.gov)
                                http://judiciary.house.gov › media › press-releases › testi...
                                Jul 20, 2023 — WASHINGTON, D.C. – On July 17, 2023, the House Judiciary Committee and Subcommittee on the Weaponization of the Federal Government conducted ...

                                ABC News - Breaking News, Latest News and Videoshttps://abcnews.go.com › Politics › story
                                Sep 13, 2018 — More than 100 pages of newly-recovered text messages show that former FBI officials Peter Strzok and Lisa Page used authorized channels within ...

                                Top Agent Said F.B.I. Would Stop Trump From Becoming ...
                                The New York Timeshttps://www.nytimes.com › U.S. › Politics
                                Jun 14, 2018 — In texts to a colleague, the agent overseeing the Trump investigation repeatedly expressed anti-Trump political views.

                                <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-media-max-width="560"><p lang="zxx" dir="ltr"><a href="https://t.co/YRNJOoMQmW">pic.twitter.com/YRNJOoMQmW</a></p>&mdash; Fck Around N Find Out (@FAFO_TV) <a href="https://twitter.com/FAFO_TV/status/1758483872743150057?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" >February 16, 2024</a></blockquote><script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
                                Last edited by DwightShrute; 02-17-24, 07:53 PM.
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                                • Da Manster!
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 07-13-07
                                  • 17720

                                  #4916
                                  Originally posted by DwightShrute
                                  A quick google search will show you. Doesn't have to be google. It took less than a minute.


                                  CNNhttps://www.cnn.com › 2022/10/11 › politics › steele-dos...
                                  Oct 11, 2022 — Shortly before the 2016 election, the FBI offered retired British spy Christopher Steele “up to $1 million” to prove the explosive

                                  AP Newshttps://apnews.com › article
                                  Aug 19, 2020 — A former FBI lawyer has pleaded guilty to altering a document related to the secret surveillance of a former Trump campaign adviser during ...

                                  New York Posthttps://nypost.com › 2023/06/22 › fbi-verified-authentici...
                                  Jun 22, 2023 — IRS supervisory agent Gary Shapley told Congress that Hunter Biden's laptop was "verified" in November 2019 and an expert assessed "it was ...

                                  Testimony Reveals FBI Employees Who Warned Social Media ...
                                  House Judiciary Committee Republicans | (.gov)
                                  http://judiciary.house.gov › media › press-releases › testi...
                                  Jul 20, 2023 — WASHINGTON, D.C. – On July 17, 2023, the House Judiciary Committee and Subcommittee on the Weaponization of the Federal Government conducted ...

                                  ABC News - Breaking News, Latest News and Videoshttps://abcnews.go.com › Politics › story
                                  Sep 13, 2018 — More than 100 pages of newly-recovered text messages show that former FBI officials Peter Strzok and Lisa Page used authorized channels within ...

                                  Top Agent Said F.B.I. Would Stop Trump From Becoming ...
                                  The New York Timeshttps://www.nytimes.com › U.S. › Politics
                                  Jun 14, 2018 — In texts to a colleague, the agent overseeing the Trump investigation repeatedly expressed anti-Trump political views.

                                  <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-media-max-width="560"><p lang="zxx" dir="ltr"><a rel="nofollow" href="https://t.co/YRNJOoMQmW">pic.twitter.com/YRNJOoMQmW</a></p>&mdash; Fck Around N Find Out (@FAFO_TV) <a rel="nofollow" href="https://twitter.com/FAFO_TV/status/1758483872743150057?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" >February 16, 2024</a></blockquote><script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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                                  • Hareeba!
                                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                    • 07-01-06
                                    • 36897

                                    #4917
                                    This is a must watch 7 minute video from the BBC on Trump and American democracy:


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                                    • Da Manster!
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 07-13-07
                                      • 17720

                                      #4918
                                      Hey, I'm just trying to fit in!...

                                      #MAGA
                                      #lies
                                      #swag4Jesus
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                                      • DwightShrute
                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                        • 01-17-09
                                        • 102510

                                        #4919
                                        Originally posted by Da Manster!

                                        <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-media-max-width="560"><p lang="zxx" dir="ltr"><a href="https://t.co/jExLWrolzM">pic.twitter.com/jExLWrolzM</a></p>&mdash; Fck Around N Find Out (@FAFO_TV) <a href="https://twitter.com/FAFO_TV/status/1757404256372707397?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" >February 13, 2024</a></blockquote><script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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                                        • Hareeba!
                                          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                          • 07-01-06
                                          • 36897

                                          #4920
                                          Trump: Michigan, get out and vote on November 27th

                                          The Michigan primary is in February, not November


                                          But Joe's the one with a problem?



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                                          • JIBBBY
                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                            • 12-10-09
                                            • 83693

                                            #4921
                                            Very dangerous letting all these illegal aliens in unvetted especially the adult male Chinese now. No way to vet them coming out of China..

                                            Got a dirty bomb coming, unleashing a bio hazard, war from the inside out in America maybe? This is not good. China is our adversary don't forget that.


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                                            • DwightShrute
                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                              • 01-17-09
                                              • 102510

                                              #4922
                                              Originally posted by Hareeba!
                                              Trump: Michigan, get out and vote on November 27th

                                              The Michigan primary is in February, not November


                                              But Joe's the one with a problem?



                                              Its normal for people to make mistakes. Everyone does. It's not normal what Biden does however. What he does is whole new level. This is why you aren't a serious person. You can't even be honest with yourself. Only a dumb and/or dishonest person are buying what you're selling.
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                                              • jackpot269
                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                • 09-24-07
                                                • 12821

                                                #4923
                                                Originally posted by DwightShrute
                                                you keep bring that up but never that politicians illegally changed election laws in certain States using the pandemic as a reason. Sending millions of ballots to people who didn't ask for them.

                                                The USA court system is also set up mostly for those with the right political affiliation. They protect their own. The swamp is deep. The deep state is deep. You really think this corrupt grifter in office today is running the country? If you do, then you are a fool. He can barely stand without falling over. He isn't even allowed to talk to the press. He was not charged with stealing classified documents because he is a weak old man who can't remember fuk all. But that seems to be fine to be president for some of you.

                                                Oh but someone wanted to see how these voting machines were fixing the election and why some States refused to allow those machines in their States because they were unreliable. So none of that other stuff matters.


                                                '''So none of that other stuff matters.
                                                '' breaking the law should always matter. I do understand why you would feel that way.


                                                Thanks for calling me a fool. I did not realize that they sent ballots to everyone in Georgia. I will need to check on that one.

                                                I have lived in the USA all of my 55 years. The one thing in the area where I live, that means more than politics, is money. The judges and prosecutors that can be bought or bribed don't give a rats butt about what side of the isle you are on As long as you got their money. Or some other favor they want, that will take money to get it! Since 85% of them are GOP here they may charge you a little more if you are a democrat.
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                                                • DwightShrute
                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                  • 01-17-09
                                                  • 102510

                                                  #4924
                                                  Originally posted by jackpot269


                                                  '''So none of that other stuff matters.
                                                  '' breaking the law should always matter. I do understand why you would feel that way.


                                                  Thanks for calling me a fool. I did not realize that they sent ballots to everyone in Georgia. I will need to check on that one.

                                                  I have lived in the USA all of my 55 years. The one thing in the area where I live, that means more than politics, is money. The judges and prosecutors that can be bought or bribed don't give a rats butt about what side of the isle you are on As long as you got their money. Or some other favor they want, that will take money to get it! Since 85% of them are GOP here they may charge you a little more if you are a democrat.
                                                  I never said that.

                                                  <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-media-max-width="560"><p lang="zxx" dir="ltr"><a href="https://t.co/uSPaVSvTS2">pic.twitter.com/uSPaVSvTS2</a></p>&mdash; Fck Around N Find Out (@FAFO_TV) <a href="https://twitter.com/FAFO_TV/status/1756422966475129341?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" >February 10, 2024</a></blockquote><script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
                                                  Last edited by DwightShrute; 02-17-24, 10:03 PM.
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                                                  • DwightShrute
                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                    • 01-17-09
                                                    • 102510

                                                    #4925
                                                    Originally posted by JIBBBY
                                                    Very dangerous letting all these illegal aliens in unvetted especially the adult male Chinese now. No way to vet them coming out of China..

                                                    Got a dirty bomb coming, unleashing a bio hazard, war from the inside out in America maybe? This is not good. China is our adversary don't forget that.


                                                    https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/24/u...us-border.html
                                                    I read somewhere that from 2000 to 2013 there were something like under 100 Chinese males coming into the US illegally across the southern border. Since then, more than 35,000 Chinese.
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                                                    • Hareeba!
                                                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                      • 07-01-06
                                                      • 36897

                                                      #4926
                                                      Originally Posted by DwightShrute
                                                      You really think this corrupt grifter in office today is running the country? If you do, then you are a fool. He can barely stand without falling over. He isn't even allowed to talk to the press. He was not charged with stealing classified documents because he is a weak old man who can't remember fuk all. But that seems to be fine to be president for some of you.

                                                      I see that DipShit is posting more lies!

                                                      Joe is fitter and physically more capable than TFG and can ride a bike!
                                                      And he's totally misrepresenting the reason Joe wasn't charged. Obviously been listening to some garbage RW summary rather than reading the report.

                                                      And as to his memory. Do you recall all the "unable to recall" answers provided by
                                                      TFG
                                                      to Mueller's questionnaire?
                                                      Remember that one because he refused to actually meet with Mueller's team to be questioned he had plenty of time to answer and came up with over 30 "don't recall" responses.

                                                      https://apnews.com/article/elections-donald-trump-russia-ap-top-news-robert-mueller-98f22511be924ced895ce5c0bfedfe37

                                                      And TFG seems continually to forget such things as who ran against him in 2016 and 2020; who was Speaker on Jan 6, 2021; who was president in 2016
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                                                      • JIBBBY
                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                        • 12-10-09
                                                        • 83693

                                                        #4927
                                                        Originally posted by DwightShrute
                                                        I read somewhere that from 2000 to 2013 there were something like under 100 Chinese males coming into the US illegally across the southern border. Since then, more than 35,000 Chinese.
                                                        They are all coming in thru the California border now that the Texas border is shut down. All landing right into San Diego and then taking buses right to down town LA. I know I live here.


                                                        Gavin Newsom on check now. I don't see him doing anything like putting up razor wire at the border like Abbot did in Texas.


                                                        Time for me to learn Spanish and Chinese I guess!
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                                                        • khicks26
                                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                                          • 09-16-06
                                                          • 45475

                                                          #4928
                                                          Originally posted by JIBBBY
                                                          Very dangerous letting all these illegal aliens in unvetted especially the adult male Chinese now. No way to vet them coming out of China..

                                                          Got a dirty bomb coming, unleashing a bio hazard, war from the inside out in America maybe? This is not good. China is our adversary don't forget that.


                                                          https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/24/u...us-border.html
                                                          Dude you watch to many movies, that or to much Steve Bannon's War Room.
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                                                          • khicks26
                                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                                            • 09-16-06
                                                            • 45475

                                                            #4929
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                                                            • Optional
                                                              Administrator
                                                              • 06-10-10
                                                              • 60849

                                                              #4930
                                                              Originally posted by Da Manster!

                                                              that's an extreme hypothetical example Jackpot269...first and foremost, the vast majority of the world already owes us a debt of gratitude that could never be paid off. How many times we have bailed other countries out throughout history? throughout all of the world wars? who has primarily carried NATO's jock strap the last 50+ years or so? and ditto for the United Nations. Of course if we are being totally honest we really don't need the rest of the world. we got the bombs (and plenty of them), manpower, money, resources, etc. (the wherewithal to do it by ourselves) and so does Russia for that matter. that is why it would never come to that. unless some right wing nut is crazy and stupid enough to do it and push that little red button! but we aren't going to mention any names are we? (wink, wink!...)
                                                              Afghanistan
                                                              Iraq
                                                              Korea
                                                              Vietnam
                                                              Panama
                                                              Somalia
                                                              to just make a quick start on the list of destroyed countries.

                                                              Do you think any of those countries felt "bailed out" or used and abused and left worse off when USA ran away?

                                                              Do you recall George Bush and Tony Blair guaranteeing they would not desert Afghanistan like so many other "helped" countries before them?


                                                              Can you make a list of the countries that owe America a debt of gratitude for bailing them out post WW2?

                                                              I'll give you the entire list. Ukraine.

                                                              But even there US meddling probably helped create the war to start with.


                                                              I am all for strong alliances. But sometimes Americans are delusional about how "helpful" you are as world police and how badly the rest us need you compared to you needing us.

                                                              If Australia flipped and allied with China it would destroy Americas hold of world power over night. Same with UK deciding Russia is a better bet than USA.
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                                                              • Optional
                                                                Administrator
                                                                • 06-10-10
                                                                • 60849

                                                                #4931
                                                                Originally posted by Da Manster!
                                                                who has primarily carried NATO's jock strap the last 50+ years or so?
                                                                This bit too is wrong.

                                                                Even you have been brainwasjed by Trump.

                                                                Europe has contributed more than 50 times what USA to Nato since inception.

                                                                Europe has contributed more arms and war materials to Ukraine than USA.

                                                                European countries have spent more than 3x what America has on the Ukraine war. And that's before you even take into account UK, Canada, Australia, India etc.


                                                                Even the left leaners are being sucked in by Trump's America is a victim mentally.
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                                                                • Emily_Haines
                                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                                  • 04-14-09
                                                                  • 15917

                                                                  #4932
                                                                  Love it
                                                                  Let them eat bugs

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                                                                  • DwightShrute
                                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                                    • 01-17-09
                                                                    • 102510

                                                                    #4933
                                                                    Originally posted by Optional
                                                                    This bit too is wrong.

                                                                    Even you have been brainwasjed by Trump.

                                                                    Europe has contributed more than 50 times what USA to Nato since inception.

                                                                    Europe has contributed more arms and war materials to Ukraine than USA.

                                                                    European countries have spent more than 3x what America has on the Ukraine war. And that's before you even take into account UK, Canada, Australia, India etc.


                                                                    Even the left leaners are being sucked in by Trump's America is a victim mentally.
                                                                    not sure about all that.https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/h...ne-in-6-charts


                                                                    also USA just sent another 60 billion a few days ago.
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                                                                    • DwightShrute
                                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                                      • 01-17-09
                                                                      • 102510

                                                                      #4934
                                                                      Originally posted by Emily_Haines
                                                                      Love it
                                                                      Let them eat bugs


                                                                      good!
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                                                                      • Da Manster!
                                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                                        • 07-13-07
                                                                        • 17720

                                                                        #4935
                                                                        Originally posted by Optional
                                                                        Afghanistan
                                                                        Iraq
                                                                        Korea
                                                                        Vietnam
                                                                        Panama
                                                                        Somalia
                                                                        to just make a quick start on the list of destroyed countries.

                                                                        Do you think any of those countries felt "bailed out" or used and abused and left worse off when USA ran away?

                                                                        Do you recall George Bush and Tony Blair guaranteeing they would not desert Afghanistan like so many other "helped" countries before them?


                                                                        Can you make a list of the countries that owe America a debt of gratitude for bailing them out post WW2?

                                                                        I'll give you the entire list. Ukraine.

                                                                        But even there US meddling probably helped create the war to start with.


                                                                        I am all for strong alliances. But sometimes Americans are delusional about how "helpful" you are as world police and how badly the rest us need you compared to you needing us.

                                                                        If Australia flipped and allied with China it would destroy Americas hold of world power over night. Same with UK deciding Russia is a better bet than USA.
                                                                        Funny how you mention post WW2 because it conveniently fits your narrative. but the two big ones, WW1 and WW2, well let's just say if it weren't for us Yanks to bail you out, all of you Aussies and the rest of the civilized world would only be speaking three languages right about now!...German, Japanese, and Italian!......but I do agree with your other points for the most part. We shouldn't be meddling in other countries affairs if it's only between two factions. let them settle their differences. We had absolutely no business whatsoever in Afghanistan, Iraq, Korea, and Vietnam. All of those were political wars. Hundreds of billions of US tax dollars wasted needlessly and recklessly!
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