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  • Unrivaled
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 10-24-11
    • 6685

    #1
    Is the cure worse than the disease?
    Simple question: when we look back at these lockdowns, will we find the cure to covid was worse than the disease itself?

    Let's take all of these into consideration:
    -Mental Health toll of not seeing family and friends
    -Job loss and poverty resulting from the lockdown
    -Closure of local businesses, while large corporations thrive
    -Suicides that will result from the 3 things above over the next few years

    I want to know what you think. I don't want people to die, but at what cost are we willing to destroy our economy?
  • vitterd
    Restricted User
    • 09-14-17
    • 58460

    #2
    We did it wrong. It wasn’t a real lockdown. We should have done a full lock down on everything but grocery stores, hospitals and pharmacies. We did it half ass. We could have gotten rid of it if we did it right.
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    • beerman2619
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 12-24-09
      • 7752

      #3
      Originally posted by vitterd
      We did it wrong. It wasn’t a real lockdown. We should have done a full lock down on everything but grocery stores, hospitals and pharmacies. We did it half ass. We could have gotten rid of it if we did it right.
      Fuking idiot stfu liberal clown
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      • Unrivaled
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 10-24-11
        • 6685

        #4
        Originally posted by vitterd
        We did it wrong. It wasn’t a real lockdown. We should have done a full lock down on everything but grocery stores, hospitals and pharmacies. We did it half ass. We could have gotten rid of it if we did it right.
        Well at least in my city, we did a full lockdown in the spring and it went away after a couple months. But, here we are again with cases going way up.

        So I would reject that a full lockdown could have destroyed it. We aren't an island and you can't completely get rid of it.
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        • eddycash
          SBR MVP
          • 11-06-13
          • 4527

          #5
          the flu virus has existed for thousands of years. Nothing can stop the existence of bacteria and viruses. Herd immunity is the only solution.
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          • vitterd
            Restricted User
            • 09-14-17
            • 58460

            #6
            Originally posted by Unrivaled
            Well at least in my city, we did a full lockdown in the spring and it went away after a couple months. But, here we are again with cases going way up.

            So I would reject that a full lockdown could have destroyed it. We aren't an island and you can't completely get rid of it.
            It would have been easy. What happened was we did a Covid bill that rewarded trump supporters and big business. If we had a full lockdown and gave the money to the people.....we’d have very little death and Covid would be gone. This was a massive failure by the federal government. Look at where the Covid money went. People got a lousy 1200 bucks....Trump supporting millionaires got millions. It’s just the facts. We should have paid everyone to stay home for 3 months and right now everything would be good. Our government and our people are very stupid.
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            • Unrivaled
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 10-24-11
              • 6685

              #7
              Originally posted by vitterd
              It would have been easy. What happened was we did a Covid bill that rewarded trump supporters and big business. If we had a full lockdown and gave the money to the people.....we’d have very little death and Covid would be gone. This was a massive failure by the federal government. Look at where the Covid money went. People got a lousy 1200 bucks....Trump supporting millionaires got millions. It’s just the facts. We should have paid everyone to stay home for 3 months and right now everything would be good. Our government and our people are very stupid.
              I'm in Canada and we paid everyone $2000 a month to stay home if laid off.

              Guess what? The virus is back and there is no money left to give. It didn't work.
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              • vitterd
                Restricted User
                • 09-14-17
                • 58460

                #8
                Originally posted by Unrivaled
                I'm in Canada and we paid everyone $2000 a month to stay home if laid off.

                Guess what? The virus is back and there is no money left to give. It didn't work.
                Guess what? We have 285,000 deaths and millions more cases than you guys. The virus is back because people became lazy and complacent. Have you looked at other countries who enforced much stricter lock down and mask wearing. They are doing way better than us.

                And we can print as much money as we want here.
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                • Unrivaled
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 10-24-11
                  • 6685

                  #9
                  Originally posted by vitterd
                  Guess what? We have 285,000 deaths and millions more cases than you guys. The virus is back because people became lazy and complacent. Have you looked at other countries who enforced much stricter lock down and mask wearing. They are doing way better than us.

                  And we can print as much money as we want here.
                  Strict lockdown involving not leaving your house just doesn't work in North America.

                  The compliance is never going to be there. Different societies.
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                  • vitterd
                    Restricted User
                    • 09-14-17
                    • 58460

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Unrivaled
                    Strict lockdown involving not leaving your house just doesn't work in North America.

                    The compliance is never going to be there. Different societies.
                    And that’s why we are where we are. It’s amazing to me that people can’t lock it down for 3 months to save lives and get rid of this. Just too impatient and our government would not pay those who needed it.
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                    • floridagolfer
                      SBR MVP
                      • 12-19-08
                      • 2757

                      #11
                      It's not possible to make progress when only half the country is interested in cooperating. Yes, you can at least partially blame the gun-toting racists and their dear leader. They've hurt the cause for the greater good. Unfortunately, that means everyone else suffers the consequences.

                      With a high level of cooperation, we could have dealt with this and been done with it by July.

                      Oh, and don't forget the inept nature of the White House. Pfizer offered to sell the U.S. government more doses of a vaccine. That is a fact that cannot be refuted. Trump said "no" and then Pfizer went to others, which put the U.S. at the end of the line.

                      At the end of the day, we got what we deserve.
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                      • HAPPY BOY
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 08-10-05
                        • 7109

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Unrivaled
                        Simple question: when we look back at these lockdowns, will we find the cure to covid was worse than the disease itself?

                        Let's take all of these into consideration:
                        -Mental Health toll of not seeing family and friends
                        -Job loss and poverty resulting from the lockdown
                        -Closure of local businesses, while large corporations thrive
                        -Suicides that will result from the 3 things above over the next few years

                        I want to know what you think. I don't want people to die, but at what cost are we willing to destroy our economy?

                        of course it is . a disease with a 98% recover rate vs Life ruining results ..easy answer..like I said if Old..frail...sick with medical issues..STAY HOME!!! all others wash hands..wear mask and live
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                        • Iona
                          SBR MVP
                          • 01-08-10
                          • 4244

                          #13
                          Side effects already.

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                          • RudyRuetigger
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 08-24-10
                            • 65084

                            #14
                            well, more people died in Japan last month from suicide


                            than all year in japan from covid


                            yes, id say the cure is worse
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                            • jjgold
                              SBR Aristocracy
                              • 07-20-05
                              • 388179

                              #15
                              nothing worked guy

                              only thing that works is vaccines
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                              • Gaze73
                                SBR MVP
                                • 01-27-14
                                • 3291

                                #16
                                Of course the cure is worse, it's all planned. The rich grow richer and the powerful grow more powerful, as always.
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                                • KnuckleHeadz
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 12-11-19
                                  • 8194

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by vitterd
                                  It would have been easy. What happened was we did a Covid bill that rewarded trump supporters and big business. If we had a full lockdown and gave the money to the people.....we’d have very little death and Covid would be gone. This was a massive failure by the federal government. Look at where the Covid money went. People got a lousy 1200 bucks....Trump supporting millionaires got millions. It’s just the facts. We should have paid everyone to stay home for 3 months and right now everything would be good. Our government and our people are very stupid.
                                  we’d have very little death and Covid would be gone.
                                  GONE? penetrate this kid is dumb as penetrate
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                                  • KnuckleHeadz
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 12-11-19
                                    • 8194

                                    #18
                                    Guess what folks, it’s that time of the year, the same time every year that people
                                    Of all ages get the FLU. But we don’t hear that word anymore or anything else for that matter.. all we hear is COVID..

                                    Influenza activity in the United States during the 2018–2019 season began to increase in November and remained at high levels for several weeks during January–February5. Influenza A viruses were the predominant circulating viruses last year.

                                    CDC estimates that the burden of illness during the 2018–2019 season included an estimated 35.5 million people getting sick with influenza, 16.5 million people going to a health care provider for their illness, 490,600 hospitalizations, and 34,200 deaths from influenza
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                                    • TheGoldenGoose
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 11-27-12
                                      • 3745

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by KnuckleHeadz
                                      Guess what folks, it’s that time of the year, the same time every year that people
                                      Of all ages get the FLU. But we don’t hear that word anymore or anything else for that matter.. all we hear is COVID..

                                      Influenza activity in the United States during the 2018–2019 season began to increase in November and remained at high levels for several weeks during January–February5. Influenza A viruses were the predominant circulating viruses last year.

                                      CDC estimates that the burden of illness during the 2018–2019 season included an estimated 35.5 million people getting sick with influenza, 16.5 million people going to a health care provider for their illness, 490,600 hospitalizations, and 34,200 deaths from influenza
                                      Covid-19 is almost 10X worse than annual flu so what is your point???
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                                      • TheGoldenGoose
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 11-27-12
                                        • 3745

                                        #20
                                        -Closure of local businesses, while large corporations thrive

                                        Well, DING DONG. Look who just woke up.

                                        This has only been happening for the last 40 fukking years.
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                                        • deltgen
                                          SBR Wise Guy
                                          • 12-31-10
                                          • 865

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by vitterd
                                          If we had a full lockdown and gave the money to the people.....we’d have very little death and Covid would be gone.
                                          My God.
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                                          • TheGoldenGoose
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 11-27-12
                                            • 3745

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by HAPPY BOY
                                            of course it is . a disease with a 98% recover rate vs Life ruining results ..easy answer..like I said if Old..frail...sick with medical issues..STAY HOME!!! all others wash hands..wear mask and live
                                            Hey clueless... Old, frail, sick with medical issues GOT OUT and VOTED.
                                            That's why both you and Trump are still scratching your heads.
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                                            • KnuckleHeadz
                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                              • 12-11-19
                                              • 8194

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by TheGoldenGoose
                                              Covid-19 is almost 10X worse than annual flu so what is your point???
                                              It ain’t 10x worst.... my point is you DON’T hear anything about the flu, cancer, heart failure or the thousands of other illnesses that kill people each day. I’m not looking them all up for you.
                                              All you here is COVID and people with weak immune systems like yourself and vittered who’s family is constantly falling off eat it up like a Twinkie...
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                                              • PAULYPOKER
                                                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                • 12-06-08
                                                • 36581

                                                #24

                                                Is the Cure Worse than the Disease?

                                                You already made Identical thread in APRIL..

                                                What would change?



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                                                • PAULYPOKER
                                                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                  • 12-06-08
                                                  • 36581

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by RudyRuetigger
                                                  well, more people died in Japan last month from suicide


                                                  than all year in japan from covid


                                                  yes, id say the cure is worse
                                                  You said CNN was fake news..

                                                  Oh I get it, CNN is only fake news when it doesn't fit your narrative......
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                                                  • deltgen
                                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                                    • 12-31-10
                                                    • 865

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by TheGoldenGoose
                                                    Hey clueless... Old, frail, sick with medical issues GOT OUT and VOTED.
                                                    Yeah--apparently 20X each.
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                                                    • TheGoldenGoose
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 11-27-12
                                                      • 3745

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by KnuckleHeadz
                                                      It ain’t 10x worst.... my point is you DON’T hear anything about the flu, cancer, heart failure or the thousands of other illnesses that kill people each day. I’m not looking them all up for you.
                                                      All you here is COVID and people with weak immune systems like yourself and vittered who’s family is constantly falling off eat it up like a Twinkie...
                                                      Your OWN numbers pal. You said 34,200 deaths from influenza.
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                                                      • pavyracer
                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                        • 04-12-07
                                                        • 82800

                                                        #28
                                                        Being dead is no joke. You will find out when it happens to you.
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                                                        • RudyRuetigger
                                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                                          • 08-24-10
                                                          • 65084

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by PAULYPOKER
                                                          You said CNN was fake news..

                                                          Oh I get it, CNN is only fake news when it doesn't fit your narrative......

                                                          i didnt get that from CNN you fukkin idiot


                                                          this just shows what nut jobs you all are
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                                                          • PAULYPOKER
                                                            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                            • 12-06-08
                                                            • 36581

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by RudyRuetigger
                                                            i didnt get that from CNN you fukkin idiot


                                                            this just shows what nut jobs you all are
                                                            The fukk you didn't
                                                            more people died in Japan last month from suicide
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                                                            www.cnn.com › japan-suicide-women-covid-dst-intl-hnk
                                                            Nov 29, 2020 — More people died from suicide in Japan in October than succumbed to Covid-19 all year. And more women are taking their own lives, as they ...







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                                                            • The Kraken
                                                              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                              • 12-25-11
                                                              • 28918

                                                              #31
                                                              Without a vaccine this cycle doesnt stop

                                                              We gotta do our part to move on from it, or not. Thats up to each individual but soon if you have kids, they wont be going to school without the vaccine
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                                                              • Roger T. Bannon
                                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                • 06-28-18
                                                                • 5139

                                                                #32
                                                                It was a massive screw up. All they had to do was tell people wear a mask and it would have been a blip. The Asians knew how to do it. We were morons.

                                                                When the stock market crashed, they had to do something to save it.

                                                                When the country faced a time of crisis, they wanted Joe Biden and Donald Trump. Nothing more needs to be said.
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                                                                • BigdaddyQH
                                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                                  • 07-13-09
                                                                  • 19530

                                                                  #33
                                                                  The fact is really simple. All you f**kiing idiots have to do is wear a mask and you will be fine. The problem is this. You absolute fools think that you know more than Doctors and are not going to allow people to tell you what you must and must not do. Well it doesn't work that way morons. People talk. YOU listen. IF you do not and you get sick or die, that is on you. You people think you have all of the answers when in reality, you have none. Then there are the extremists in here, both right and left. Always quick to blame someone other than yourselves, when in reality, you people are the ones to blame. Just wear a mask you dumb s**ts, and let the people who know about these things worry about them.
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                                                                  • KnuckleHeadz
                                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                    • 12-11-19
                                                                    • 8194

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by TheGoldenGoose
                                                                    Your OWN numbers pal. You said 34,200 deaths from influenza.
                                                                    Those are your CDC numbers.. you are the clown to believe 280K+ deaths are all Covid
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                                                                    • RudyRuetigger
                                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                                      • 08-24-10
                                                                      • 65084

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by PAULYPOKER
                                                                      The fukk you didn't
                                                                      more people died in Japan last month from suicide
                                                                      About 102,000,000 results (0.61 seconds)
                                                                      Search Results

                                                                      Web results


                                                                      In Japan, more people died from suicide last month than from ...

                                                                      www.cnn.com › japan-suicide-women-covid-dst-intl-hnk
                                                                      Nov 29, 2020 — More people died from suicide in Japan in October than succumbed to Covid-19 all year. And more women are taking their own lives, as they ...







                                                                      your article is nov 29th and from cnn



                                                                      mine is nov 28th from fox


                                                                      More people died of suicide in Japan in one month than the entire coronavirus pandemic | Fox News
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