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  • JIBBBY
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 12-10-09
    • 83686

    #176
    A good safe guard in schools is to have an emergency escape window built in kinda like an emergency escape Airplane door.. If it's an upper story then a ramp slide is triggered and inflated.. Much like an Airplane.. That way kids can escape the building immediately rather then whimper and hide in class rooms until the shooter comes....

    I wonder if I'm the only one that has thought of that? Seems like a cheap install and solution.. That would be great for real fire escape situations as well. Go right out the window in every class room single file...

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    • The Kraken
      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
      • 12-25-11
      • 28918

      #177
      Originally posted by JIBBBY
      A good safe guard in schools is to have an emergency escape window built in kinda like an emergency escape Airplane door.. If it's an upper story then a ramp slide is triggered and inflated.. Much like an Airplane.. That way kids can escape the building immediately rather then whimper and hide in class rooms until the shooter comes....

      I wonder if I'm the only one that has thought of that? Seems like a cheap install and solution.. That would be great for real fire escape situations as well. Go right out the window...
      The time is here both parties recognize that unfortunately ar-15 style rifles are simply too dangerous for society. I understand most republicans are pro gun and so am I but it's for shotguns, hunting rifles and handguns, not these rifles designed for war. This has to be seen as a common sense move that both parties tell the NRA to fukk off on. Too many people and kids are dying.

      I like the window idea but it won't help if a kid walks into an auditorium

      What I fear and it will come true, probably sooner than later, is a mass school shooting so large in scale that it makes today shooting look small. Eventually, someone or a group of kids is going to figure it out and kill hundreds. Schools are just fish n barrel for someone that knows what they're doing.
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      • Kermit
        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
        • 09-27-10
        • 32555

        #178
        Originally posted by The Kraken
        The time is here both parties recognize that unfortunately ar-15 style rifles are simply too dangerous for society.
        I agree. I argue with my wife all of the time about this(just argued again today). She has an AR and we also have 5 or 6 handguns.

        If you look at all of the mass shootings in this country where an AR was involved, they all have the high death counts.

        There is no reason for guns like that to be available for the average citizen, and this is coming from someone who is pro-gun.
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        • d2bets
          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
          • 08-10-05
          • 39995

          #179
          Originally posted by The Kraken
          The time is here both parties recognize that unfortunately ar-15 style rifles are simply too dangerous for society. I understand most republicans are pro gun and so am I but it's for shotguns, hunting rifles and handguns, not these rifles designed for war. This has to be seen as a common sense move that both parties tell the NRA to fukk off on. Too many people and kids are dying.

          I like the window idea but it won't help if a kid walks into an auditorium

          What I fear and it will come true, probably sooner than later, is a mass school shooting so large in scale that it makes today shooting look small. Eventually, someone or a group of kids is going to figure it out and kill hundreds. Schools are just fish n barrel for someone that knows what they're doing.
          There are other gatherings too. Concerts are ripe. Won't stop me from attending, but it's a real risk.
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          • BadNina
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 11-27-07
            • 10491

            #180
            Originally posted by Kermit
            She has an AR .
            Oh? Your wife has an ArmaLite?
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            • d2bets
              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
              • 08-10-05
              • 39995

              #181
              Originally posted by Kermit
              I agree. I argue with my wife all of the time about this(just argued again today). She has an AR and we also have 5 or 6 handguns.

              If you look at all of the mass shootings in this country where an AR was involved, they all have the high death counts.

              There is no reason for guns like that to be available for the average citizen, and this is coming from someone who is pro-gun.
              Good for you. Your comrades in the NRA will never ever give ground on this.
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              • HockeyRocks
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 07-10-13
                • 6069

                #182
                If your on the "Do Not Fly List" you can buy a gun. What the *uck is wrong with you Republicans??????????
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                • Kermit
                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                  • 09-27-10
                  • 32555

                  #183
                  Originally posted by BadNina
                  Oh? Your wife has an ArmaLite?
                  Yeah, it's at her brother's house right now. She left it there for him to clean after the last time that they went shooting.
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                  • Kermit
                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                    • 09-27-10
                    • 32555

                    #184
                    Originally posted by d2bets
                    Good for you. Your comrades in the NRA will never ever give ground on this.
                    I'm not a card carrying member.
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                    • Thor4140
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 02-09-08
                      • 22296

                      #185
                      Originally posted by JIBBBY
                      Maybe it's time to train and arm the teachers or have armed security in school... Train em properly and conceal the weapons and out of view of the kids maybe to help combat these school shootings. Might make kids think twice about coming to school and unloading anyways if they knew the teachers were armed.....

                      Schools are a safe unarmed place and twisted kids know this..
                      Jibby we tried to have health care for all but u cried when u had to pay a little more so this is a bad idea because again u will have to pay a little more for this security.
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                      • JIBBBY
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 12-10-09
                        • 83686

                        #186
                        I'm all in favor of banning Assault riffles.. Period.. I'm not in favor of banning all guns though.. I own one myself.. .357 Mag S&W for home protection and like having it..

                        Both parties do need to get together and ban these guns as they serve no purpose in society.. The NRA can kiss my ass on this... These guns have to go... Stiffest of penalties if you are caught with one in the city also should be implemented.. AK's and AR's tear up cities and schools now. That's not cool ..

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                        • JIBBBY
                          SBR Aristocracy
                          • 12-10-09
                          • 83686

                          #187
                          Originally posted by Thor4140
                          Jibby we tried to have health care for all but u cried when u had to pay a little more so this is a bad idea because again u will have to pay a little more for this security.
                          I didn't like being forced to pay for health insurance that I didn't want and then by not getting it penalized big every year on tax returns if I didn't sign up.. Premiums got jacked with ObamaCare as well..

                          Damn right Thor I didn't like Obamacare.. The only ones that benefited the most from Obamacare were the poor and unemployed wacked out on drugs, on welfare and having more babies in the hoods.. They can all walk in the Emergency hospitals and get free healthcare without Obamacare..

                          It's all a crock of shiiit Thor and you know this.. You're not stupid bud..

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                          • Optional
                            Administrator
                            • 06-10-10
                            • 61673

                            #188
                            Originally posted by JIBBBY
                            The only ones that benefited the most from Obamacare were the poor and unemployed wacked out on drugs, on welfare and having more babies in the hoods
                            How terrible!!! A basic health care plan that benefits those that might need it most!


                            Your investment in that scheme is to raise the base quality of life for all Americans. Yourself included. Social cohesion benefits the rich many times more than the poor.

                            What do you want a universal health care plan to do? look after the rich as well or better than the poor or not be allowed to exist?

                            Talk about cutting off your nose to spite your face.
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                            • Jayvegas420
                              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                              • 03-09-11
                              • 28213

                              #189
                              Originally posted by Ph q all
                              Cruz....probably here illegally. Build that wall!
                              If the kid can get his hands on automatic weapons, he can probably find a fukkin ladder
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                              • Jayvegas420
                                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                • 03-09-11
                                • 28213

                                #190
                                Originally posted by JIBBBY
                                I didn't like being forced to pay for health insurance that I didn't want and then by not getting it penalized big every year on tax returns if I didn't sign up.. Premiums got jacked with ObamaCare as well..

                                Damn right Thor I didn't like Obamacare.. The only ones that benefited the most from Obamacare were the poor and unemployed wacked out on drugs, on welfare and having more babies in the hoods.. They can all walk in the Emergency hospitals and get free healthcare without Obamacare..

                                It's all a crock of shiiit Thor and you know this.. You're not stupid bud..

                                You are becoming more and more demented every day.
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                                • VeggieDog
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 02-21-09
                                  • 7214

                                  #191
                                  Originally posted by Jayvegas420
                                  If the kid can get his hands on automatic weapons, he can probably find a fukkin ladder
                                  Won't there be snipers?
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                                  • HockeyRocks
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 07-10-13
                                    • 6069

                                    #192
                                    Jibby.... Is that what you will do when you get hurt and end up in the hos for 10 days or get sick and walk into the Hos and expect to get free healthcare????
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                                    • MoneyLineDawg
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 01-01-09
                                      • 13253

                                      #193
                                      No reason for the assault rifles to be available to the general public....too many nut jobs out there, obviously

                                      The problem is that most people feel like they need to pick a side, Dem or Rep, and go along with everything to the extreme

                                      And the jerkoff government is the same way....

                                      Pretty sure the majority of Americans would be thrilled with crackdowns on immigration/illegals while also getting rid of the assault rifles but we'll never fukkin get to that point....and its everyone's fault
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                                      • HockeyRocks
                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                        • 07-10-13
                                        • 6069

                                        #194
                                        Originally posted by Jayvegas420
                                        You are becoming more and more demented every day.
                                        A few facts about Obamacare for the uninformed like you Jibby..

                                        ....Unemployed Americans don't' qualify for the ACA. You must be employed, have an income and file Fed taxes.

                                        ....The poor qualify for Medicaid.

                                        Get informed
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                                        • HockeyRocks
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 07-10-13
                                          • 6069

                                          #195
                                          Originally posted by HockeyRocks
                                          A few facts about Obamacare for the uninformed like you Jibby..

                                          ....Unemployed Americans don't' qualify for the ACA. You must be employed, have an income and file Fed taxes.

                                          ....The poor qualify for Medicaid.

                                          Get informed
                                          This comment was sent to Jibby...
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                                          • JIBBBY
                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                            • 12-10-09
                                            • 83686

                                            #196
                                            ^^^No one goes without emergency healthcare in America now.. Period..

                                            You guys wanna defend Obamacare be my guest.. I'm not the one delusional.. More then half of America can't stand Obamacare.. It's failing and failed.. It was a bad idea from the start... It hurt the middle class big time, my own brother in law whom is self employed with 2 young kids was working hard making 100 grand a year and was paying more for Obamacare then rent to stay insured.. I was getting fined $800 a year for not having it personally.. That's crazy!!!

                                            Talk to the hard working middle class that got buried and broke under the Obamacare healthcare premiums... Middle class are the back bone that pay the taxes to keep this Country operating.. Poor and lazy get a free ride always.. That's the problem with America today.. Welfare generations are a plague upon society..

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                                            • MoneyLineDawg
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 01-01-09
                                              • 13253

                                              #197
                                              Healthcare shot in this country any way you slice it....too much greed and corruption which stems from lobbyists/politicians being in bed with eachother

                                              All the back and forth will have minimal effects
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                                              • HockeyRocks
                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                • 07-10-13
                                                • 6069

                                                #198
                                                Originally posted by JIBBBY
                                                ^^^No one goes without emergency healthcare in America now.. Period..

                                                You guys wanna defend Obamacare be my guest.. I'm not the one delusional.. More then half of America can't stand Obamacare.. It's failing and failed.. It was a bad idea from the start... It hurt the middle class big time, my own brother in law whom is self employed with 2 young kids was working hard making 100 grand a year and was paying more for Obamacare then rent to stay insured.. I was getting fined $800 a year for not having it personally.. That's crazy!!!

                                                Talk to the hard working middle class that got buried and broke under the Obamacare healthcare premiums... Middle class are the back bone that pay the taxes to keep this Country operating.. Poor and lazy get a free ride always.. That's the problem with America today.. Welfare generations are a plague upon society..

                                                So now with no health ins you will join the crowd at the ER for freebies like the people your bashing...
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                                                • JIBBBY
                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                  • 12-10-09
                                                  • 83686

                                                  #199
                                                  Originally posted by HockeyRocks
                                                  So now with no health ins you will join the crowd at the ER for freebies like the people your bashing...
                                                  No I pay out of pocket if I need medical attention, but I am completely healthy and take care of myself.. I also know as much about the human body as some of these so called doctors do.

                                                  I'm not bragging but I'm worth several million dollars because I worked hard and smart over the past 25 years.. I don't need to pay for health insurance or any insurance for that matter. Insurance companies are in business to make money and I don't want to make them money... I'd rather put those large monthly health insurance payments in my own bank account and collect interest and go to a local clinic if I need medicine or a check up, I'll pay for that out of pocket.. If I break a bone I'll pay $20,000 out of pocket to have a skilled doctor fix it...

                                                  That should be my choice.. This is a free Country last I checked...
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                                                  • Mac4Lyfe
                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                    • 01-04-09
                                                    • 48384

                                                    #200
                                                    Originally posted by magaman
                                                    Is that a picture of the perp being apprehended? for real? Is that a Philly Eagles logo on his shirt sleeve? need I say more?
                                                    That's an ROTC shirt...
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                                                    • Bert102
                                                      SBR Sharp
                                                      • 04-11-16
                                                      • 377

                                                      #201
                                                      https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...mental-n727221 . Nice just one day before the shooting 🤣
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                                                      • JIBBBY
                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                        • 12-10-09
                                                        • 83686

                                                        #202
                                                        Originally posted by Bert102
                                                        https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...mental-n727221 . Nice just one day before the shooting 藍
                                                        That's not cool if true.. I don't like that at all.. I need to double check the validity of this news read..
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                                                        • Mac4Lyfe
                                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                                          • 01-04-09
                                                          • 48384

                                                          #203
                                                          Originally posted by JIBBBY
                                                          Maybe it's time to train and arm the teachers or have armed security in school... Train em properly and conceal the weapons and out of view of the kids maybe to help combat these school shootings. Might make kids think twice about coming to school and unloading anyways if they knew the teachers were armed.....

                                                          Schools are a safe unarmed place and twisted kids know this..
                                                          The school had at least 1 armed guard. What good will it do to have armed teachers? If you're the perp, you'd take them out first anyway. Just walk up to them and blast them before they can get to their guns.

                                                          I hate all the NRA talk that assumes that an innocent armed person can save you from a gunman. Most innocent armed people get shot when they try to stop a crime. Terrorist and deranged fukks have the element of surprise which there's no real defense. A crazy fuk can go into a gun convention and start blasting dozens before someone responds. There is no defense for mental illness.
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                                                          • Optional
                                                            Administrator
                                                            • 06-10-10
                                                            • 61673

                                                            #204
                                                            Originally posted by magaman

                                                            Nope. Believe it or not the frequency and body count of school shootings have been in the decline since the early 1900's when the feds started keeping stats. Cable news, internet and social media has made people think it's just getting really bad over the last 20 years
                                                            Wow, had no idea that 3 school shootings per week so far in 2018 is actually a decline since 1900!!!

                                                            Amazing facts that make you go hmmm.
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                                                            • Mac4Lyfe
                                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                                              • 01-04-09
                                                              • 48384

                                                              #205
                                                              Originally posted by JIBBBY
                                                              That's not cool if true.. I don't like that at all.. I need to double check the validity of this news read..
                                                              Of course it's true. He lobbied to repeal any and all gun laws as the NRA lined his pockets.
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                                                              • The Kraken
                                                                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                                • 12-25-11
                                                                • 28918

                                                                #206
                                                                Originally posted by JIBBBY
                                                                I'm all in favor of banning Assault riffles.. Period.. I'm not in favor of banning all guns though.. I own one myself.. .357 Mag S&W for home protection and like having it..

                                                                Both parties do need to get together and ban these guns as they serve no purpose in society.. The NRA can kiss my ass on this... These guns have to go... Stiffest of penalties if you are caught with one in the city also should be implemented.. AK's and AR's tear up cities and schools now. That's not cool ..

                                                                I would guess no one on SBR owns more ar15 platform based rifles than I but this is getting ridiculous. I am disgusted that mental health continues to be used as a scapegoat here. Ya, no shit mental health is an issue that should be addressed but no one even knows where to start on identifying or addressing these needs.

                                                                We do know where to start with gun control legislation

                                                                You Republicans want to walk off with the 2018 elections and WH in 2020, then fukking pass your version of gun control legislation and ban ar15 platform rifles. Steal that thunder from the left. I would fukking love it.
                                                                Control and own the narrative, ban the fukking rifles and nothing else. Make huge efforts to get the guns off the street.

                                                                2018 and 2020 gift wrapped
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                                                                • d2bets
                                                                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                                  • 08-10-05
                                                                  • 39995

                                                                  #207
                                                                  Originally posted by JIBBBY
                                                                  No I pay out of pocket if I need medical attention, but I am completely healthy and take care of myself.. I also know as much about the human body as some of these so called doctors do.

                                                                  I'm not bragging but I'm worth several million dollars because I worked hard and smart over the past 25 years.. I don't need to pay for health insurance or any insurance for that matter. Insurance companies are in business to make money and I don't want to make them money... I'd rather put those large monthly health insurance payments in my own bank account and collect interest and go to a local clinic if I need medicine or a check up, I'll pay for that out of pocket.. If I break a bone I'll pay $20,000 out of pocket to have a skilled doctor fix it...

                                                                  That should be my choice.. This is a free Country last I checked...
                                                                  What happens if you get cancer? Or you have a stroke? Or have a serious car accident? You can do all the right things and something bad can still happen that could basically wipe you out. If you're worth several million, how could it possibly not be worth insuring your body against the unforeseen. I jut don't get it. To save $10k/year, maybe less? You're not going to run through your several million; you know you won't. Well, nit unless you have an unforeseen health problem, right?

                                                                  Sorry, but your position on this is totally illogical. I just don't get it. Do you think you're going to run out of money if you shell out $10k/year for insurance? The only thing that can wipe you out is an unforeseen health issue. That's why you insure against it.

                                                                  I'm not going to quibble with your right to make a decision, but your decision here is very illogical. It's one thing if it's someone who is living paycheck to paycheck and that insurance payment really does impact their quality of life. Frankly, what are they insuring against? They don't have several million to lose. You do. Seriously man, think about it. I'm a nice guy. I care about you, Jibby. Get some damn health insurance, Obamcare or not.
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                                                                  • Mac4Lyfe
                                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                                    • 01-04-09
                                                                    • 48384

                                                                    #208
                                                                    Originally posted by Optional
                                                                    Wow, had no idea that 3 school shootings per week so far in 2018 is actually a decline since 1900!!!

                                                                    Amazing facts that make you go hmmm.
                                                                    He must live on an alternate planet. One of the dumbest posts I've seen here in a while and I've seen some doozies.
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                                                                    • cincinnatikid513
                                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                                      • 11-23-17
                                                                      • 45360

                                                                      #209
                                                                      Originally posted by Optional
                                                                      Wow, had no idea that 3 school shootings per week so far in 2018 is actually a decline since 1900!!!

                                                                      Amazing facts that make you go hmmm.
                                                                      it' s not as bad as u make it sound only 8 shootings resulting in injuries or death

                                                                      In all, guns have been fired on school property in the US at least 18 times so far this year, according to incidents tracked by Everytown for Gun Safety, a gun control group. In eight of these cases, a gun was fired on school property, but no one was injured. Another two incidents were gun suicides, claiming the lives of one student and one adult on school property.

                                                                      https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/feb/14/school-shootings-in-america-2018-how-many-so-far
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                                                                      • JIBBBY
                                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                                        • 12-10-09
                                                                        • 83686

                                                                        #210
                                                                        Originally posted by d2bets
                                                                        What happens if you get cancer? Or you have a stroke? Or have a serious car accident? You can do all the right things and something bad can still happen that could basically wipe you out. If you're worth several million, how could it possibly not be worth insuring your body against the unforeseen. I jut don't get it. To save $10k/year, maybe less? You're not going to run through your several million; you know you won't. Well, nit unless you have an unforeseen health problem, right?

                                                                        Sorry, but your position on this is totally illogical. I just don't get it. Do you think you're going to run out of money if you shell out $10k/year for insurance? The only thing that can wipe you out is an unforeseen health issue. That's why you insure against it.

                                                                        I'm not going to quibble with your right to make a decision, but your decision here is very illogical. It's one thing if it's someone who is living paycheck to paycheck and that insurance payment really does impact their quality of life. Frankly, what are they insuring against? They don't have several million to lose. You do. Seriously man, think about it. I'm a nice guy. I care about you, Jibby. Get some damn health insurance, Obamcare or not.
                                                                        I can pay for any health emergency crisis out of pocket.. I'm different from you guys.. I'm single, retired, and have a nest egg. I know that's hard for some of you to fathom..

                                                                        I don't like insurance of any kind period.. Like I said insurance companies are in business to make money.. I'm just not into insurance and don't need it or want it.. I'm talking about any kind of insurance in life.. I even take a bond out to self insure my automobiles... I save alot of money every year not paying insurance premiums.. I put that saved money away for an emergency if it ever happens.. I'm ready.. Is what it is....

                                                                        I also give to charities of my choice.. I pay my taxes...
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