No planes on 9-11-01

[Ebe]

I dont know

I do know the government has lied to us from the beginning and it wasnt terrorists with boxcutters

That much I can assure you with absolute certainty

Would bet my life on that

[The Kraken]

I dont know

I do know the government has lied to us from the beginning and it wasnt terrorists with boxcutters

That much I can assure you with absolute certainty

Would bet my life on that

You're a loon pal, and the more you type, the more it becomes clear that you have paranoia personality disorder. You have no logical thought process, you simply want to believe it was a conspiracy. Somehow you know it for sure this was an inside job, but yet you aren't even sure if it was a missile or a cartoon place and you're willing to bet your life on it

Un-fukking-real

[Ebe]

You have no reading comprehension

And you're an idiot to boot

[BigDofBA]

"Well, I don't know exactly how the media did it, but there were no planes, it was cartoon animation"

For all the 9/11 truthers out there, this guy has to take the cake on being the biggest dipshit of all

Unreal how people openly flaunt their ignorance now, have some pride people

Truthers

Yep and there were also countless New Yorkers that saw it.

[Ebe]

I dont dispute that planes hit the buildings

The governments story a lie tho

[BigDofBA]

Very astute of you

He was either in on it, or he also saw the real life version of the cartoon animation

The thing is, if you're going to have a conspiracy theory, at least make it a good theory.

Now planes didn't hit the towers???? So all of these people that watched on the ground, including my friend, didn't see what they saw? Give me a freaking break.

I think it's good to question everything and not take things at face value but some of these theories are ridiculous. Again, if you're saying it's an inside job that means there would have been thousands of people in on it including the media, FBI, CIA, local law enforcement, etc.

The government can't even balance the damn budget. How are they going to pull of something that intricate.

It's kind of worrisome how quickly people can get brainwashed without really doing their own research.

[The Kraken]

You have no reading comprehension

And you're an idiot to boot

You have absolutely nothing you loon

Ebe, you took the low road, the easy path here, you simply piggybacked on to some nutjobs theories and then without putting any real thought or logic into what happened, you just agreed with the truthers. It's evident because you cannot even make a simple claim about why you believe it was a conspiracy. You won't do this for two reasons, one is you're not even sure (your words) you just admitted the plane may have been a cartoon, or maybe a missile Two is because once you make a statement, it will be dissected and you know you will look like a fukking fool.

Let me assure you, you won't look anymore foolish that you do right now.

Be a man and tell me why you believe it was an inside job.

Were the planes black? Silver? No planes? Just simple shit, basic shit, you have no answer

[The Kraken]

I dont dispute that planes hit the buildings

The governments story a lie tho

Ok, so this is something, what color were the planes? Anyone know that?

[The Kraken]

The thing is, if you're going to have a conspiracy theory, at least make it a good theory.

Now planes didn't hit the towers???? So all of these people that watched on the ground, including my friend, didn't see what they saw? Give me a freaking break.

I think it's good to question everything and not take things at face value but some of these theories are ridiculous. Again, if you're saying it's an inside job that means there would have been thousands of people in on it including the media, FBI, CIA, local law enforcement, etc.

The government can't even balance the damn budget. How are they going to pull of something that intricate.

It's kind of worrisome how quickly people can get brainwashed without really doing their own research.

Exactly. This one is simple, it just goes to show how easy sheep are to control. 2,752 families lost a family member that day, 343 firemen died that day, and no it's possible there were no planes.

But it's also possible there were planes, but the gov't story is a lie, an outright lie, 100% absolutely certain of this. Can't prove it, don't know why, but by god, it must be a lie

[BigDofBA]

I dont dispute that planes hit the buildings

The governments story a lie tho

At least we're getting somewhere now.

Dude, I don't really trust the government either but I also know better than to think they orchestrated 9/11.

I think it's plausable the flight over Pennsylvania was shot down because it seems like there would be wreckage with that type of crash. I could see the government shooting it down to save more lives on the ground because at that point they knew that was a suicide plan. Then I could see the government painting a story that the passengers were heroes that stopped the terrorists. With that said, I still think that is a theory and don't take it as fact.

In addition to that, I think it's possible a few people on the inside has some intelligence that an attack was imminent. That could explain the high trading in put options leading up to the attack and the huge insurance policy taken out on the property. Even with that though, that does't mean the government intentionally did this.

To all of you people thinking your own government did this, what would be their motive? Why would they do it? You're going to say to push the war agenda and to invade Afghanistan and Irag but the government could have done that anyway.

[jtoler]

The thing is, if you're going to have a conspiracy theory, at least make it a good theory.

Now planes didn't hit the towers???? So all of these people that watched on the ground, including my friend, didn't see what they saw? Give me a freaking break.

I think it's good to question everything and not take things at face value but some of these theories are ridiculous. Again, if you're saying it's an inside job that means there would have been thousands of people in on it including the media, FBI, CIA, local law enforcement, etc.

The government can't even balance the damn budget. How are they going to pull of something that intricate.

It's kind of worrisome how quickly people can get brainwashed without really doing their own research.

No it doesnt, not to mention there are many who were CIA whove said the entire thing was a sham. Besides people keep secrets all the time, can you tell me who killed Kennedy?

[The Kraken]

Toler do you know anything that would lead you to believe 9/11 was a conspiracy?

[BigDofBA]

not to mention there are many who were CIA whove said the entire thing was a sham.

Like who? Can you name 5 people or are you just going off what someone said on youtube.

You said there were many.

[jtoler]

Toler do you know anything that would lead you to believe 9/11 was a conspiracy?

I dont know anything that would lead me to believe it wasnt. Like where is any evidence of such happening the way it was said to happen.

[jtoler]

Like who? Can you name 5 people or are you just going off what someone said on youtube.

You said there were many.

Yes I can,and Ive long left talking about the event really. I just look at the entire thing differently than most, it was a means to an end, false flags have been going on for centuries so whats the big deal. Robert Steele is one. Ive read not just former cia but from former state department to those who are friends with those who knew beforehand and discussed details with them.

[JIBBBY]

Didn't you guys know this is all Conspiracy.. The Twin Towers are actually still standing in NY, it's all a Government hoax and a cover up.. We really didn't go to war in Iraq either..

Some of you people on this forum really need to lay off the hard drugs and booze as it's messing with your mental state of what is real and what is not..

They look like planes to me... I also remember watching this plane hit the second building live on TV.. It got me very upset and angry at the time...

[Ebe]

[Ebe]

Gotta love people who blindly believe what cnn tells them

why would the government lie, they are honest and have nothing to hide

[Ebe]

You have zero reasoning skills if you believe the governments story

Just about everything about the official explanation is a lie and impossible

[BigDofBA]

Ive read not just former cia but from former state department to those who are friends with those who knew beforehand and discussed details with them.

So there are no names? You read it on the internet?

I think 9/11 was real and happened because I have a real life friend that lived there and still lives there who said he saw an airplane fly into the second tower. I've also been to Manhattan....goto the memorial and you'll probably see what I'm talking about. It will probably make you think a little differently.

Anyway, you have some 911 truthers saying that planes never hit the building and now some of of the very people in this thread are finally admitting that plains did hit the tower. Which is it it? Do you not see how wishy washy the theories are?

It's not really surprised that some grainy personal video didn't show every frame in HD of the plane crashing into the tower. Next time you're out and a plane is flying overhead, pull out your iPhone and try to film it. It's probably not going to be the best quality and it will be a little blurry.

[Ebe]

JFC when are you gonna realize noone is saying it didnt happen and people werent killed

We are saying it wasnt terrorists with boxcutters

get it yet or still no?

[Ebe]

[Ebe]

[BigDofBA]

You have zero reasoning skills if you believe the governments story

Just about everything about the official explanation is a lie and impossible

What is a lie and impossible? List some facts. I don't always believe the government either but I also don't believe wackos on the internet with wild imaginations.

So 911 truthers think there were no planes that hit the tower. That's what the wacko in the video on page 1 of this thread said. Is that a true or false statement?

Planes hit the building: yes or no?

So if it wasn't terrorists, who flew the planes into the building?

[Ebe]

Its not possible for those buildings to fall at free fall speeds into their own footprint due to jet fueled fires

Its not possible for no wreckage of a plane to be found at the pentagon site

Its not possible to make cellphone calls from that altiutute and speed

Theres 3 of about 200 facts that are fuckin impossible

Dont even know why Im wasting my time here tho

[JIBBBY]

This looks like a piece of plane to me during the actual Pentagon shots right after... I also see alot of scattered debris every where in this picture that looks more like plane materials then building brick....

[Ebe]

Yes, I believe planes hit the buildings.

But the buildings came down as a result of controlled demolition

[Ebe]

Why no bodies or plane found in the Pennsylvania crash site? How is that possible?

[Ebe]

How is there no footage of a plane hitting the Pentagon? Every square inch of that building is covered 24/7 from all angles but no footage of this?

Why?

[jtoler]

So there are no names? You read it on the internet?

I think 9/11 was real and happened because I have a real life friend that lived there and still lives there who said he saw an airplane fly into the second tower. I've also been to Manhattan....goto the memorial and you'll probably see what I'm talking about. It will probably make you think a little differently.

Anyway, you have some 911 truthers saying that planes never hit the building and now some of of the very people in this thread are finally admitting that plains did hit the tower. Which is it it? Do you not see how wishy washy the theories are?

It's not really surprised that some grainy personal video didn't show every frame in HD of the plane crashing into the tower. Next time you're out and a plane is flying overhead, pull out your iPhone and try to film it. It's probably not going to be the best quality and it will be a little blurry.

Not just internet, readings offline, I gave a name. I chatted with Robert Steele online before but mainly about open source he doesnt like to talk about the event really so I didnt venture there.

[Ebe]

How does Building 7 come down without being hit by anything? Can anyone answer that?

Are you fuckin idiots out of your mind?

Its the simplest logic imaginable

[jtoler]

This entire thread is why its pointless discussing rationale about it, but I understand.

[BigDofBA]

Yes, I believe planes hit the buildings.

But the buildings came down as a result of controlled demolition

Thank you. So some of the 911 truthers are wrong according to you because planes did in fact hit the towers.

So you believe planes did hit the towers but terrorists didn't do it. If that's the case, who flew the planes into the towers?

[Ebe]

One of the hijackers passports ( a piece of paper) survives the entire thing but they never find the black box (which is made from the most impervious metals known to man)

[BigDofBA]

This looks like a piece of plane to me during the actual Pentagon shots right after... I also see alot of scattered debris every where in this picture that looks more like plane materials then building brick....

The reason people get stuck on these notions that there was "no debris" is because they don't actually know and are listening to what people on youtube say. People on Youtube also said that planes didn't hit the buildings....