i know most of you goons don't know what CISA is but it got passed...

[Ghenghis Kahn]

terrorism really isn't a problem in the united states. no need for everyone to be accused of being a terrorist without a warrant. that's a violation of civil rights. how does this bill protect us again?

[Ghenghis Kahn]

death from terrorism doesn't even make the list of all the deaths in the us. so whatever the government is telling you is to keep you in fear. don't believe the hype. you have a better chance of winning the lotto than dying from a terrorist act.

http://www.romans322.com/daily-death-rate-statistics.php

[Ghenghis Kahn]

Well.... all I'm going to say is... The dumb Federal "Tanning Tax Law". It was actually passed on Christmas Eve or Christmas Day. I forgot which day it was? You're going to say... these congress people actually met on Christmas Eve or Christmas Day to pass this stupid thing? Yes, it was. It was then enforced the 1st Qtr of the next year.

So.... yes... dumb laws do get passed quickly...


As to your opening post... I feel the govt. already knows way too much about us. I know a girl who has worked for Google since practically day 1. She told me it's amazing how much data their servers have on almost every person in the USA. Why is Google allowed to use this data and store it is beyond me. So.... when we have news stories that every terrorist activity is "under the radar"... who's radar are we talking about? If these terrorist are using Google... all there info is being recorded. Why hasn't the Feds subpoenaed Google?

Everywhere you look there are questions on top of questions. Something always trumps the other. That's why half the sh#$ we read is false.

you forget the ultimate bill that was attached for us degenerates... the dreaded uigea. that was a dagger to all the online gaming, pinnacle, and neteller...

[JIBBBY]

^^ Because we've made it harder for terrorists to carry out attacks.. Homeland Security and now this bill are making that happen.

Kahn I think you are looking at his bill being passed in the wrong light.. This bill was clearly passed to help counter terrorism..

2 terrorist attacks were just successfully carried out in these past few months by the way.. Paris and San Bern.. It's a growing threat and measures need to be taken.. Remember Government people live here in the States as well and want to feel safe.. Trust a little on this one..

[Ghenghis Kahn]

wow jibbs, they got you by the balls.


i'm telling you this right now. don't live in fear. terrorism isn't our problem. our rights taken away daily is the bigger problem.

[recon1]

wait so let me get this straight, so our government doesn't look out for our best interest but normal people understand?

90% of the people do not even know who the secretary of the state is so normal means idiots?

"using loonery to conflate disparate real issues"? lol how long did it take you to come up with this nonsense? stop trying to sound smart, it's doesn't fit your style. loonery is not even a word you fukking retard.

you keep mentioning normal people understand. what are you really trying to say? and why are you even bringing up san bernardino? i haven't said one word about san bernardino in this thread or any other thread.

"cisa to combat that islamic radicalism or various other real life problems"? ok if you truly believe this, there is nothing more to discuss.

one question to the "normal" people, when's the last time a bill was attached to a must pass bill that actually helped the "normal" people?

you nailed it GK. This guy is a poser and tries to use a vocabulary that's out of context, but makes him look intelligent to the masses of asses. The truly intelligent people, actually show and illustrate critical thinking skills and a vocabulary that can properly convey those thoughts.
He's truly nuttier that squirrel shit.
Don't agree with all you say, but i do appreciate your thinking skills and others who think outside of box along with Sour and few others.
Good job

[recon1]

^^ Because we've made it harder for terrorists to carry out attacks.. Homeland Security and now this bill are making that happen.

Kahn I think you are looking at his bill being passed in the wrong light.. This bill was clearly passed to help counter terrorism..

2 terrorist attacks were just successfully carried out in these past few months by the way.. Paris and San Bern.. It's a growing threat and measures need to be taken.. Remember Government people live here in the States as well and want to feel safe.. Trust a little on this one..

Jibby, define "terrorist" from the DOJ perspective and yours. Like to know what you think it is.

[Ghenghis Kahn]

jibbs watch this when you have time... this is what our government is doing that "normal" people are clueless about. if you really fear terrorists, we need to stop killing innocent people with drones first.

[JIBBBY]

wow jibbs, they got you by the balls.


i'm telling you this right now. don't live in fear. terrorism isn't our problem. our rights taken away daily is the bigger problem.

Can't argue with the great Ben Franklin but Ben doesn't live in these current times does he?.. Hey, we're not talking about taking away our gun rights are we? I also don't think we're giving up much with this bill being passing after I read into it.. It just makes it easier for the authorities to track down the bad guys..

[sourtwist]

Can't say I agree w/you on this one, JiBBBY... and a couple of the things you say are pretty scary:




While measures need to be taken to combat terrorism in a growing technological age, "we the people" really need to be wary of how much power (info/knowledge is power) the gov't has and wants to further acquire.

Discarding the concept of, say, needing a warrant, is outrageous. Respectfully, I don't think you're thinking this through well enough.

Wowsers, if you made more Posts like this, I would actually read them.

[NrmlCurvSurfr]

If everyone in the country thought like jibby we would fvcked with no hope of returning...jibby you need to jump into a freezing pond and wake yourself up, for everyone's sake. Thank you.

i would say "nobody could be that stupid", but you guys know that's bull sh!t...so trolling or not, please stop spreading that garbage.

[sourtwist]

Ah, sourloon... haven't I embarrassed you enough over these last coupla weeks?

Ah, yeah... everyone knows I have; such that I'm getting a PM from a well respected poster telling me to stop annihilating you on the forum and show some Christmas mercy (mods can call me out here if I'm lying about PM).

I'm the last thing from a troll, regardless what your looney mind conjures up to prevent you from having another mental breakdown like the one you already copped to on the forum. You are one weak minded lil twat... no wonder you didn't want to answer The Giant's direct question if your family considers you nutso. BTW, your silence answered his question, half-wit.

Bitchslapping (I prefer making it one word) you repeatedly with FACTS is not trolling, dunderhead. It is exactly what it is, i.e., administering a beat down of your idiocy/loonery.

Let's recap just a few of the highlights, shall we?

http://www.sportsbookreview.com/forum/players-talk/3187881-mass-shooting-san-bernardino-ca-up-12-dead-so-far-p29.html#post24957459

http://www.sportsbookreview.com/forum/players-talk/3187881-mass-shooting-san-bernardino-ca-up-12-dead-so-far-p29.html#post24959347

http://www.sportsbookreview.com/forum/players-talk/3187881-mass-shooting-san-bernardino-ca-up-12-dead-so-far-p29.html#post24957463

Show no mercy. I can take it. I am not losing any sleep, at least not over you anyway.

I have to say, since I've been around here for a few years, some of the people I like the most are the guys who I would go at it with and couldn't stand at first. There are guys like Kraken, and Kahn, who I at one point might have even traveled to brawl with turned out to be people that are the reason that I even come around. Even Giant grew on me for a minute until I saw that he was going for the knockout punch.

But then there are people like you. I remember the thread that I said I was going through some things... Not everything in life is good, sometimes life is hard. I chose to share what I was going through at the time. I have had a lot on my plate as of late.... But all you want to do is dig up something that most people wouldn't rub in other people's faces. That's a character flaw, my friend. The guy who goes out on a limb is the one who shows character. You have none, and class is one word that is not in your expanded vocabulary. The Giant had asked a question of me, what does my family think of me... Because I'm a loon, right? You love that I didn't respond so much that you've brought it up at least a handful of times. What does that say about you? You bury people you don't know in an Internet forum? Is there even such a thing?
I couldn't give two shits what you or anyone else says about me. Trust me. If i were to get buried so often, as you say, I probably wouldn't stick around if it bothered me.

I'm not sure who the poster who you say pm'd you to stop being a prick, but whoever it is is easily a better person than you are.

[pronk]

^^ Because we've made it harder for terrorists to carry out attacks.. Homeland Security and now this bill are making that happen.

Kahn I think you are looking at his bill being passed in the wrong light.. This bill was clearly passed to help counter terrorism..

2 terrorist attacks were just successfully carried out in these past few months by the way.. Paris and San Bern.. It's a growing threat and measures need to be taken.. Remember Government people live here in the States as well and want to feel safe.. Trust a little on this one..

Keep repeating this crap and some day you'll grow up to be a slave. A well "protected" slave.

[JIBBBY]

Oh boy.. The conspiracy theory people are posting in force now I see on this thread, no hope, no trust, nothing is good.. Everything is bad..

I've read enough... Have fun in your gloom and doom mentalities.. Faith and trust can't be taught, and when the minds are made up they can't be changed most of the time..

I leave you with this -

Our Country and liberties will be just fine.. Relax and take a deep breathe people as this bill was needed to be passed and it's not the end of our Constitution or amendment rights as Americans... Talk about fear.. Geeez..

[benibrowns]

I have a close relative (Brother)that works with the Sherriffs dept, They have drills not against a terrorist attack, or foriegn invaders, but what to do against the public..They Brainwash these baffoons to think that we our the enemy, The people That speak against this oppressive governtment and speaks out against laws that rob a little of our freedoms everyday in backroom, midnight bill signings by these elected dictators. They call us toads, and criminals while we just want to live and keep our own freedom and family and Property safe without these empty suits sign 3000 paage bills without reading them...Its friggan pathetic the way this goverment has become and the sheep, these idiot baby boomers let it happen. Please tell me a difference between a republican and a democrat, They are both destroying this country hand in hand...
Please excuse the rambling...To much scotch I guess...

[NrmlCurvSurfr]

Oh boy.. The conspiracy theory people are posting in force now I see on this thread, no hope, no trust, nothing is good.. Everything is bad..

I've read enough... Have fun in your gloom and doom mentalities.. Faith and trust can't be taught, and when the minds are made up they can't be changed most of the time..

I leave you with this -

Our Country and liberties will be just fine.. Relax and take a deep breathe people as this bill was needed to be passed and it's not the end of our Constitution or amendment rights as Americans... Talk about fear.. Geeez..

Thank you for this jibby, I didn't know how I was going to sleep tonight. jibby says our liberties and the constitution and amendment rights are intact and not at all being infringed upon...finally some peace

[Ghenghis Kahn]

Oh boy.. The conspiracy theory people are posting in force now I see on this thread, no hope, no trust, nothing is good.. Everything is bad..

I've read enough... Have fun in your gloom and doom mentalities.. Faith and trust can't be taught, and when the minds are made up they can't be changed most of the time..

I leave you with this -

Our Country and liberties will be just fine.. Relax and take a deep breathe people as this bill was needed to be passed and it's not the end of our Constitution or amendment rights as Americans... Talk about fear.. Geeez..

before you start labeling people, how much real history do you know? or are you just indoctrinated by our public education system like most of the public?

do you know anything about our next president, hillary clinton? start with benghazi then go backwards and study about her past. then study how obama came from nowhere to becoming the president with his "change" you can believe in slogan. afterwards, learn about bush jr., then bill clinton, then bush sr., then reagan, all the way down to washington. educate yourself about how they became presidents and what they did during their presidency.

then study the rothschild family and the rockefeller family. then the jesuit order, zionism, and corporatocracy. what i've suggested is a good start.

you can either take the red pill or the blue pill. how far down the rabbit hole do you want to go? it's all up to you.

[BiTeMe UsAdOj]

1. recon, not my fault you're not educated enough to understand real English words. That's on YOU. Nothing I wrote was out of context, dunderhead. My original post was nominated by a couple of the sharper guys around here; guys far smarter than you that can actually read and fully comprehend the words and the meaning they precisely conveyed. Take a course, ffs. I don't see why anyone has to dumb down anything just so you can understand it, shit-fer-brains.

2. Sourloon, if you were brighter than you are, you would have long ago understood that I have a healthy distrust of the gov't. Of course, my name itself should have been a hint for ya, half-wit. That such obvious things routinely fly over your head is not surprising, however, as loonery takes up much brain-space.

3. I would've went along ignoring your loonery if you didn't start calling others scumbags and other pejoratives (look the word up if you have to); your despicable disrespect toward others prompted me into the SB thread. Then you have the temerity (yep, you & recon can look up that one, too) to talk to The Giant about being civil when discussing issues. LOL, Holy Christ it was Hypocrisy 101 from you. If you weren't such a mouthy, disrespectful jackass of a loon, I never would've said boo to you. You were asking to be beat down via logic and facts, I simply obliged.

4. Mercy should only be bestowed upon the deserving, is one of my basic mottos. I understand you struggle to keep your sanity, you admitted as much. It's not like I don't have a modicum of sympathy for you and your struggles to keep it together, because I do. I would hope you're not losing sleep over my internet posts on SBR, regardless of how keenly accurate they always are. Hell, I realize you no doubt struggle performing the simple tasks at your simple job. So, I agree... things like making sure you hold on to that simple job while struggling to keep your sanity are far more worrisome and likely to keep you up at nights. And, even though you're certifiably nutso, I still wish you the best of luck in your profound struggles for normalcy.

[BiTeMe UsAdOj]

Sour, again, if you never acted like an a-hole to others, you never would have heard squat from me. Being an a-hole to others is a character flaw, pal. Put that in the ol pipe and smoke it, mmm'kay?

People that really truly know me on here know the kind of guy I am; they know I'm a high character guy. I'm always considerate and helpful to people, here and in RL. But they also know I also don't tolerate a-holes well. Not in RL, either. (As simplistic evidence, look at my charity badges. I'm also the 2-time Academy Award winner on SBR for "most generous"... I'm one of the good guys round here, pal.)

Also, it's previously been explained to you but you misunderstood: It was obvious the person that PM'd me took a bit of delight with me pointing out your obnoxiousness and errors in your posts. What was said in PM was mostly tongue-in-cheek. Understand?

BUT, I take no delight in pointing out your admitted struggles; however, I saw no change of behavior from you regarding your assholery (ok, you guys got me, not a real word, but fun nonetheless) so........

When I notice your assholery level decrease, that's when I'll fade away.
You can be a benign non-toxic loon all you want round here, you won't hear shit from me.
(Even tho I find you extremely offensive toward the victims of these tragedies w/ your loonery)

But make no mistake, regardless, I'll always view you as a loon... can't lie.

A bona fide GL to ya moving forward.

ADDENDUM: Must add, in that thread where you admitted your mental struggles, you specifically stated it was because of all that you (perceive to) know about what's really going on in the world, and how you know things that others don't yadda yadda and how that plays with your mind... that was the basic gist, paraphrased. It wasn't because of a sick kid, a dying wife or some other family tragedy or something along the lines of that serious ilk. THAT would have been out-of-bounds, regardless of your assholery. No, rather, you yourself described and confined your struggles in what I consider the loon box (you know things others don't blah blah other egotistical ramblings) Consequently, this area is IN BOUNDS when dealing w/ your assholery.

[TheMoneyShot]

you forget the ultimate bill that was attached for us degenerates... the dreaded uigea. that was a dagger to all the online gaming, pinnacle, and neteller...

And I'll add to this...

I believe the bill was passed to "try and keep funds" in the USA. If you scare 70% of the public. That's 70% of revenue that stays within the USA. You'll blow the money elsewhere. The USA just wanted the money to stay in the economy. That's just my belief.

Call me a conspiracy nut. Go ahead. I wouldn't consider myself dense. I just believe there's 2 sides to the coin. And if the USA govt. can convince you there's only one side?? Then they did their job.

I just believe there's always MASS CRAZINESS when the USA wants to get their point across quickly. Just a miraculous dreadful situation always goes down. I call 50% of the stories you see on TV are Bullsh#$. And that's 50% too much in my book.

I pay my fukking taxes each year. I'm already owned... just like every US citizen. But you (US govt.) aren't going to tell me what I can and can't do with my "other money". You'll get a big fuk you to your face.

So naturally.... if the USA govt. would try and keep gambling money in the USA... and claim it's laundering. (Which is the most petty thing I've seen them do.) I can see them blowing up twin towers and killing citizens. I can see them doing just about anything.

I wasn't born this way. I didn't wake up one day and say... oh wow... I think I'm going to believe in conspiracies etc for now on. Just take a good look at every major case or situation in the last 15 years. You have to question a lot of the bullsh#$ going on in congress... senate... house... and what the President signs or vetoes. Everything is about CONTROL. CONTROLLING CITIZENS. They have plenty of control... they can see from the Google satellites when we're taking a sh#$ or not. Zoom right in baby.

When didn't I start questioning a lot of things??? When the US govt tried to shutdown offshore $. Paypal etc. They have ZERO REASON to shut it down. ZERO. It's not their money. It's my money. And when they forced that law through... I knew we were all owned. We (as gamblers) see this clearly. The average person doesn't get it. We get it.

Now add on this other "new security" crap. Terrorists? Who in their right mind would want to blow themselves up? You got the internet... turn some porn on... beat off like a beast. Watch a little TV. Grab some taco bell. Who the fuk would want to die today? Yep... I guess I'll go blow myself up to honor my fake god. Fukking world is something else.

[rkelly110]

I have a close relative (Brother)that works with the Sherriffs dept, They have drills not against a terrorist attack, or foriegn invaders, but what to do against the public..They Brainwash these baffoons to think that we our the enemy, The people That speak against this oppressive governtment and speaks out against laws that rob a little of our freedoms everyday in backroom, midnight bill signings by these elected dictators. They call us toads, and criminals while we just want to live and keep our own freedom and family and Property safe without these empty suits sign 3000 paage bills without reading them...Its friggan pathetic the way this goverment has become and the sheep, these idiot baby boomers let it happen. Please tell me a difference between a republican and a democrat, They are both destroying this country hand in hand...
Please excuse the rambling...To much scotch I guess...

That explains why the cops are turning into thugs. Giving beat downs, tasing and shooting people walking away.
Creating fear to keep us in check. But, it doesn't help that the public is shooting cops, taking off in their cars
putting others in danger and a general disrespect for them. Thanks to them, we are turning into a police state.

[TheLock]

I made it a page and a half in the tin foil hat thread.

I've learned that whenever "false flag" is mentioned, all chance of adult discussion has been thrown out of the window.

[sourtwist]

That explains why the cops are turning into thugs. Giving beat downs, tasing and shooting people walking away.
Creating fear to keep us in check. But, it doesn't help that the public is shooting cops, taking off in their cars
putting others in danger and a general disrespect for them. Thanks to them, we are turning into a police state.

No, that's not why.

[rkelly110]

No, that's not why.

You don't agree one bad apple spoils the whole bushel? People shooting at/ killing cops or home grown terrorism?

Cops are at a heightened alert to everyone they encounter, because of their brethren getting shot?
One instance of home grown terrorism and now they made a law to spy on you? Gotta weed out that one in a million bad apple.

[JIBBBY]

before you start labeling people, how much real history do you know? or are you just indoctrinated by our public education system like most of the public?

do you know anything about our next president, hillary clinton? start with benghazi then go backwards and study about her past. then study how obama came from nowhere to becoming the president with his "change" you can believe in slogan. afterwards, learn about bush jr., then bill clinton, then bush sr., then reagan, all the way down to washington. educate yourself about how they became presidents and what they did during their presidency.

then study the rothschild family and the rockefeller family. then the jesuit order, zionism, and corporatocracy. what i've suggested is a good start.

you can either take the red pill or the blue pill. how far down the rabbit hole do you want to go? it's all up to you.

I like the Matrix reference.. Lol..

Listen Ghenghis I have no beef you, I just have little more trust in our system and Government them some of you guys.. Our Country is still the strongest, the world power, everything is chugging along, economy is rolling and it's not the end of the world or Country as we know it with this bill being passed.. I'm more optimistic..

I do know American history very well.. I understand Government and Congress and how it all works.. Sure it's flawed, and sure politicians can't be trusted because most are looking out for themselves over Country... Is our system flawed yes, is it completely broken I don't think so like some of you are suggesting..

In conclusion, I don't think we should be afraid of small changes like this bill when it comes to protecting American lives.. I'm sure the next president will keep things more in check so stay tuned. Keep hope alive fellas as America is still great...

[Ghenghis Kahn]

yes, i love the matrix and the reloaded. and yes, we live in the matrix, literally.

yeah i know you don't have beef with me, in fact i don't have beef with anyone. i'm just suggesting some important history material. let me put it to you this way, the guy that's responsible for our public education system wrote, "i don't want a nation of thinkers, i want a nation of workers." now you know why our public education system sucks.

"Faith and trust can't be taught, and when the minds are made up they can't be changed most of the time.."
yes that's why we are indoctrinated at an early age.

the reason behind the corruption is because the politicians at the high levels are selected. all the politicians at that level are bought. there's no way you can hold a high level position without mass fundings and who else but corporations can fund politicians. i have a friend in los angeles that's a city counsel and just with a $10,000 donation, i could've basically had him owe me a huge favor. this is how politics works. i scratch your back you scratch mine.

that is why we live in a corporatocrasy. when's the last time our government passed a bill that gave us more rights? or benefited the public while screwing the corporations?