#BlackLivesMatter

[Kermit]

That's like saying why is there 200Mil whites and 40Mil blacks, yet blacks are charged with more murders per year? It's because the racist cops nab every black man that's shoots the other backs, but lets all those nice white folk go and just give them a slap on the wrist. At least I think that's it. Racist cops. In your case, I think it's racist teachers. I'm sure kraken knows.

So it's the teachers who are racist because they will not accept 2 + 2 = 5 as a legitimate answer. Ok.

[Kermit]

sure...

http://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/2008/08/0...nces-for-hire/

That is just a story, not actual stats.

[Ted Sheckler]

Hippy, I believe that white privilege does exist.
And I've spent more than enough time in the inner cities than I care to admit.
Anyway, the question remains, what to do about it?
The current programs have been abject failures.
It's easy to sit there and laugh at the racism displayed on this site, which is all you are doing, which helps no one.
How do we, as a country, fix the racial problems?

Don't allow pregnant women into the hospitals to deliver kids unless they prove they have a job(or married) to support the kid. Quit bringing more kids into your life of poverty, then nobody will be complaining.

[Ted Sheckler]

So it's the teachers who are racist because they will not accept 2 + 2 = 5 as a legitimate answer. Ok.

I'm no mathematician or have any white guilt, so you'll have to check with kraken if that should be an acceptable answer for black students or if thats just racist teachers grading them too hard and not just saying "close enough"

[Kermit]

I don't see Arabs/Asians/Spanish people complaining

they're working harder and getting ahead, but I guess that's just a dumb fukking idea...they're better off bitching and moaning

it starts with the family structure

This is it right here. The white kids that I grew up with who had parents who were divorced and lived with their mother were always in more trouble than any of the other kids. These were also the kids that most of the parents didn't want their kids to hang around with.

[MoMoneyMoVaughn]

I think many of the guys with differing views on this stuff came from small towns.

That explains a lot.

2 + 2= 5 in most of alabama

[Covy]

I do believe whites have an advantage

the only way to get ahead is to work harder and good family structure. Look at Dr. Ben Carson who was born to a single mother who gave up any kind of life to work and provide for her kids. You don't see much of that these days, but there are people out there. Family structure is key- doesn't matter what background you are. It just so happens that blacks have a failure with that in many more cases than other backgrounds. It's so tough to raise a family alone, let alone with a couple of kids.

the only way to beat the system is to work harder than the others and to build a strong family.

[Kermit]

I'm no mathematician or have any white guilt, so you'll have to check with kraken if that should be an acceptable answer for black students or if thats just racist teachers grading them too hard and not just saying "close enough"

So a teacher grades one black kid differently than another? Do you think they have a quota for how many black kids they are supposed to ensure fail every year? You don't think that it was the fact that most of the kids that failed didn't show up for school 1/2 of the year?

[blackHIPPY]

ill answer yalls questions later i have to pretend to work for a little while

read this, tell me if it worked..

http://www.archive.org/stream/WillieLynchLetter1712/the_willie_lynch_letter_the_making_of_a_slave_1712_djvu.txt

[blackHIPPY]

Good to see someone can take a joke.

good one, i cant front

[Kermit]

I think everything falls back to a strong positive family structure. When I was a kid, I knew white kids that came from broken homes who were worthless then and they are still worthless now and all of the white privilege in the world isn't going to help them in any way shape or form.

[blackHIPPY]

idk if the first one has the full text

http://www.finalcall.com/artman/publish/Perspectives_1/Willie_Lynch_letter_The_Making_of_a_Slave.shtml

[jtoler]

[blackHIPPY]

text from the link

THE NEGRO MARRIAGE
We breed two ****** males with two ****** females. Then, we take the ****** male away from them and keep them moving and working. Say one ****** female bears a ****** female and the other bears a ****** male; both ****** females—being without influence of the ****** male image, frozen with a independent psychology—will raise their offspring into reverse positions. The one with the female offspring will teach her to be like herself, independent and negotiable (we negotiate with her, through her, by her, negotiates her at will). The one with the ****** male offspring, she being frozen subconscious fear for his life, will raise him to be mentally dependent and weak, but physically strong; in other words, body over mind. Now, in a few years when these two offsprings become fertile for early reproduction, we will mate and breed them and continue the cycle. That is good, sound and long range comprehensive planning.

[Ted Sheckler]

So a teacher grades one black kid differently than another? Do you think they have a quota for how many black kids they are supposed to ensure fail every year? You don't think that it was the fact that most of the kids that failed didn't show up for school 1/2 of the year?

Well, the reason why they didn't show up for half the year was because the white principal would suspend them for smoking a little weed, then they'd fail the class, and just say fuk it and quit school. I think it all circles back to the white man.

[hugh_jorgan]

ill answer yalls questions later i have to pretend to work for a little while

read this, tell me if it worked..

http://www.archive.org/stream/Willie..._1712_djvu.txt

That is truly disturbing ... but does nothing to correct the wrongs of the past.
Answers to the problems of today is what we all need ... the whites, the blacks, this country and this world need resolutions for TODAYS problems.

[Kermit]

text from the link

THE NEGRO MARRIAGE
We breed two ****** males with two ****** females. Then, we take the ****** male away from them and keep them moving and working. Say one ****** female bears a ****** female and the other bears a ****** male; both ****** females—being without influence of the ****** male image, frozen with a independent psychology—will raise their offspring into reverse positions. The one with the female offspring will teach her to be like herself, independent and negotiable (we negotiate with her, through her, by her, negotiates her at will). The one with the ****** male offspring, she being frozen subconscious fear for his life, will raise him to be mentally dependent and weak, but physically strong; in other words, body over mind. Now, in a few years when these two offsprings become fertile for early reproduction, we will mate and breed them and continue the cycle. That is good, sound and long range comprehensive planning.

There are a lot of things in the past that were done that were just not right.

Hell, just 50 years ago it was acceptable to let kids play with gunpowder, chemicals, molten plastic and hot metal.

[jtoler]

There are a lot of things in the past that were done that were just not right.

Hell, just 50 years ago it was acceptable to let kids play with gunpowder, chemicals, molten plastic and hot metal.

I see the correlation.

[ByeShea]

I see the correlation.

And miss the point.

[Triple_D_Bet]

So you believe your nephew should be eligible for all projects at MIT? You don't believe there are some projects that maybe white people shouldn't be a part of? Because that would be segregation and discrimination and hypocritical

Like black history month, right? Why do blacks get a "black history month" but whites don't? I'll tell you why, because we have White History Year.

Think of the black people only clubs in colleges, should white people be allowed to join? Should white people be allowed to have a "white persons club"? Hint, they already do, it's called the college.

There is an expectation that white people have access to every club, every space, every thing.

Trip D, I disagree vehemently with you on both points and am honestly a bit shocked you deny white privilege. Racism = prejudice + power, still believe in "reverse racism"? I look foward to the dialogue with ya

Audios until tonight boys

Let's back up a step then kraky:

People react more favorably to people they can relate to, or like. Evolutionary reasons for it, easily recognized trend in all levels of every culture and not disputable right? What you see as "white privilege" is simply the application of this universal truth, narrowly focused on only one criteria to the exclusion of others. It's the way we function as human beings in all spheres of voluntary association, and as I've mentioned before, this is a right we all have (or had, before we let the government erode it in the name of political correctness).

Singling out 'black" as a criteria in need of affirmative action to restore some arbitrary balance has led to applying the same formula to numerous other minorities, until there are more 'minorities" than majorities and it's pretty much just discrimination against white people. Is it surprising that when these undeniably racist policies are applied, the targets of the racism are displeased, and react unfavorably toward the beneficiaries of the racism, simply encouraging racism to grow??

Followed to it's logical conclusion, we'd have to set up "photogenic affirmative action" to help ugly people overcome their loss of opportunity, "not so bright affirmative action" to help people less mentally capable overcome their loss of opportunity, and so on. If my great-grandfather was an idiot and didn't accumulate wealth to give me a better start in life, does that mean I should ask the government to take some from you to make up for it, or show me favoritism to right some perceived wrong? The common complaints you address here from white people are a response to the state-sanctioned racism of affirmative action, and is similar to the current cries of racism from every other minority; the only difference is this is sanctioned by the state and well-intentioned but misguided people out of the false notion that we have to make up for the failings (from a modern perspective) of our ancestors.

Everyone has a different level of background resources to call upon, mental or physical, that affect what they can achieve in the world; but in this day and age, those limitations or benefits don't amount to much compared to motivation to succeed, as numerous examples demonstrate. What you and others see as "white privilege" is a tiny part of an easily understand phenomenon; zoom out a bit and recognize that human beings have preferences, and exercise those preferences (not just white ones; ALL humans)...once you do that, ask yourself:

1) Does it make any sense to try to change such a core human behavior often rooted in rational thinking (discriminating against behaviors based on logic), especially when applied in a hypocritical manner by trying to discriminate separately but equally?

2) Why would anyone have the right to dictate how another person feels, or what the other person does with their property (buying goods or services, associating with whomever they wish, etc)?

[brooks85]

So you believe your nephew should be eligible for all projects at MIT? You don't believe there are some projects that maybe white people shouldn't be a part of? Because that would be segregation and discrimination and hypocritical

Like black history month, right? Why do blacks get a "black history month" but whites don't? I'll tell you why, because we have White History Year.

Think of the black people only clubs in colleges, should white people be allowed to join? Should white people be allowed to have a "white persons club"? Hint, they already do, it's called the college.

you are a brainwashed buffoon

[The Kraken]

Actually, that's less due to the privilege of being white and more a result of more whites having HS diploma's.

Now the obvious argument to my point would be "but it is white privilege that causes more whites to have HS diploma's"

And my answer to that would be that more whites graduate from HS because there is more emphasis placed on education within white household.

The obvious argument to that point would be "but it is white privilege which causes this"

And my answer to that would be that there is more emphasis on education in white households mainly because the family is intact and there are proper priorities taught from a young age.

The obvious argument to that point would be "but it is white privilege which causes this"

Now, I could keep this back and forth going for pages and pages, until I was talking about slave owners in the pre-Lincoln days, but I will stop here as I've already lost 60% of the people who started reading it.

IMO, the root cause of the african american people to have not raised themselves above the difficult hand that they have surely been dealt, lies in the family unit. As a country we need to spend less on affirmative action, less on welfare, and all other gov't subsidies, and use that money to somehow get into the inner cities and teach the people on the merits of a two parent household. Teach about the importance of education, morality, trustworthiness, non-violent reactions to perceived injustices. We need to educate that it is not cool to join a gang, nor do you get your man card by going to prison. It is not ok to have a baby at 14 years old, and subsequently have 8 more kids. We need to educate that everyone is ACCOUNTABLE FOR THEIR OWN ACTIONS TODAY, regardless of yesterdays injustices. The current system of "evening up the tables" is simply not working. It is time for a change, and that change starts with the re-wiring of a thought process from a very early age.

Again, this is just my opinion.

I don't disagree. The next logical question is "why is the african american family unit dysfunctional?"

That was a nice imperesonation you did for me in my absence. You weren't far off

[The Kraken]

I live in a small town. I graduated in 1992 in a class of 218 kids. There were far more white kids in my senior class than there were black kids(Probably around a 160-40 ratio) yet more black kids didn't graduate than white kids. Now in high school we all had the same benefits as each other and no one had any more privilege than anyone else. So why did more black kids fail?

Who knows why Kermit. I could go on and on about this or that but honestly, I don't know. For all I know, you had racist teachers in your school. Or the black kids were dumber. Just speculation.

Without even needing to look up stats, I can say unequivocally that nationwide, black kids fail HS at a higher rate white kids. Shocker, I know. So your school is pretty much the norm. I'm sure each incident is slightly different.

I don't see Arabs/Asians/Spanish people complaining

they're working harder and getting ahead, but I guess that's just a dumb fukking idea...they're better off bitching and moaning

it starts with the family structure

Mexicans don't hold rallies in LA to voice their frustrations about being discriminated against? You sure about that?

Arabs don't get sterotyped in America as terrorists? Yet it's better to just take it like a man, internalize that shit. Don't complain.

Ask the 11 million undocumented workers in the US how working harder is working out for them. It's probably their fault for being undocumented, even though they're working harder. You can find the stats with a quick google search, Mexicans aren't fairing so well in America either and they hold some the hardest jobs in America. Working harder won't get you ahead near as much as being white will. That's privilege my man. You got it, I got it, we just have to be aware and sensitive.

As for the family unit, I agree. But I would ask questions about why you think the black family unit is so dysfunctional. I would look into incarceration rates for black males, pay disparity between black people and white people, etc.... It's not easy being non white in White Murica.

[The Kraken]

Let's back up a step then kraky:

People react more favorably to people they can relate to, or like. Evolutionary reasons for it, easily recognized trend in all levels of every culture and not disputable right? What you see as "white privilege" is simply the application of this universal truth, narrowly focused on only one criteria to the exclusion of others. It's the way we function as human beings in all spheres of voluntary association, and as I've mentioned before, this is a right we all have (or had, before we let the government erode it in the name of political correctness).

Singling out 'black" as a criteria in need of affirmative action to restore some arbitrary balance has led to applying the same formula to numerous other minorities, until there are more 'minorities" than majorities and it's pretty much just discrimination against white people. Is it surprising that when these undeniably racist policies are applied, the targets of the racism are displeased, and react unfavorably toward the beneficiaries of the racism, simply encouraging racism to grow??

Followed to it's logical conclusion, we'd have to set up "photogenic affirmative action" to help ugly people overcome their loss of opportunity, "not so bright affirmative action" to help people less mentally capable overcome their loss of opportunity, and so on. If my great-grandfather was an idiot and didn't accumulate wealth to give me a better start in life, does that mean I should ask the government to take some from you to make up for it, or show me favoritism to right some perceived wrong? The common complaints you address here from white people are a response to the state-sanctioned racism of affirmative action, and is similar to the current cries of racism from every other minority; the only difference is this is sanctioned by the state and well-intentioned but misguided people out of the false notion that we have to make up for the failings (from a modern perspective) of our ancestors.

Everyone has a different level of background resources to call upon, mental or physical, that affect what they can achieve in the world; but in this day and age, those limitations or benefits don't amount to much compared to motivation to succeed, as numerous examples demonstrate. What you and others see as "white privilege" is a tiny part of an easily understand phenomenon; zoom out a bit and recognize that human beings have preferences, and exercise those preferences (not just white ones; ALL humans)...once you do that, ask yourself:

1) Does it make any sense to try to change such a core human behavior often rooted in rational thinking (discriminating against behaviors based on logic), especially when applied in a hypocritical manner by trying to discriminate separately but equally?

2) Why would anyone have the right to dictate how another person feels, or what the other person does with their property (buying goods or services, associating with whomever they wish, etc)?

Noted. Kraken, don't forget to respond later.

[The Kraken]

you are a brainwashed buffoon

Most ironic post of the.................... MONTH!!!!!

Congrats Brooksy, you finally won something.

I've got a friend just like you on FB. He used to be a close friend but he went to law school, failed the bar and ended up delivering weed in SF to a bunch of dope heads. We naturally grew aparat after he left for law school. Now he "daytrades" He tells me how great LA is and how great he's doing, that he's made it. He lives in a 2BR house with 4 roomates The American dream

Anyways, you remind me of him.

He's very smart and educated like you but posts some of the most dumbest shit on FB.

[Triple_D_Bet]

Noted. Kraken, don't forget to respond later.

Looking forward to it

[brooks85]

Most ironic post of the.................... MONTH!!!!!

Congrats Brooksy, you finally won something.

I've got a friend just like you on FB. He used to be a close friend but he went to law school, failed the bar and ended up delivering weed in SF to a bunch of dope heads. We naturally grew aparat after he left for law school. Now he "daytrades" He tells me how great LA is and how great he's doing, that he's made it. He lives in a 2BR house with 4 roomates The American dream

Anyways, you remind me of him.

He's very smart and educated like you but posts some of the most dumbest shit on FB.

oh another climate change moron eh?

[greenhippo]

So you believe your nephew should be eligible for all projects at MIT? You don't believe there are some projects that maybe white people shouldn't be a part of? Because that would be segregation and discrimination and hypocritical

Like black history month, right? Why do blacks get a "black history month" but whites don't? I'll tell you why, because we have White History Year.

Think of the black people only clubs in colleges, should white people be allowed to join? Should white people be allowed to have a "white persons club"? Hint, they already do, it's called the college.

There is an expectation that white people have access to every club, every space, every thing.

Trip D, I disagree vehemently with you on both points and am honestly a bit shocked you deny white privilege. Racism = prejudice + power, still believe in "reverse racism"? I look foward to the dialogue with ya

Audios until tonight boys

Link?

[DwightShrute]

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[The Kraken]

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The difference is white lives have always mattered. Black lives are only now starting to matter. Or thats the hope.

[Triple_D_Bet]

The difference is white lives have always mattered. Black lives are only now starting to matter. Or thats the hope.

The difference is people's lives matter more to us when we can relate to them; the more we can relate, the more they matter. A by-product of evolving from our ancestors who lived in small tribes no doubt, allowing them to dedicate the optimal amounts of concern to those who were more likely to share their genes (ensuring their genes were more likely to flourish). These days consciousness and our ability to voluntarily choose who and what we surround ourselves with has drastically changed the process, but our brains tendency is still to deal with the world in the same way.

Is that relevant though? Even if you somehow don't believe that people should prioritize the world according to what and who matters most to them, is caring about different things than the majority a crime worthy of using force against? 'Cause when you say something like "Black lives matter', most people are going to interpret this as "black lives matter more than others, since those others aren't receiving the attention this message is'. If you want all lives to matter, then simply say that, and stop treating lives differently based on race

[grease lightnin]

[itchypickle]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fFJvZtgyXRE

Someone imbed for me...smartest ex con right there. Explains the whole "police hate black people" thing to the point.

[DwightShrute]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fFJvZtgyXRE

Someone imbed for me...smartest ex con right there. Explains the whole "police hate black people" thing to the point.

[andyjc712]

Some blacks don't want equality they want entitled advantages. White people get killed by cops as well. It just isn't covered. I'm tired of all these bullshit excuses

Fact Micheal Brown was an absolute piece of shit. Everyone tried to paint the cop as a racist including our President and Eric Holder. Every piece of factual evidence points to a shooting of self defense. Why has there been no apology to this guy by anyone including the media that smeared this guy

Wake the penetrate up. There are always going to be shitbag racists. There are going to be white people that hate black people for no reason. There are going to be black people who hate white people for no reason. Those people represent an extreme minority. It should be Everybody's Lives Matter not just Black Lives Matter