Your average black family

[jtoler]

How many black NFL coaches should there be? I mean 5 out of 32 is right about on par with the black population %. The number of black coaches in division I football is a bit low though.

But that's nowhere near the percentage that makes up the game.

[jtoler]

White people are 77 percent of the population.
Black people are 13 percent of the population.

Seems about right.

What's the football population? Considering most coaches do have backgrounds in the sport.

[Kermit]

But that's nowhere near the percentage that makes up the game.

What does that have to do with the coach though? It's no secret that blacks excel at the performance positions. Just because more running backs can run a faster 40 yard dash than white guys doesn't mean there should be more black coaches.

How many black people are even applying for coaching positions?

[Kermit]

Why are the large majority of starting Quarterbacks white? Is it because they are better athletes?

[jtoler]

What does that have to do with the coach though? It's no secret that blacks excel at the performance positions. Just because more running backs can run a faster 40 yard dash than white guys doesn't mean there should be more black coaches.

How many black people are even applying for coaching positions?

Tons.

[Triple_D_Bet]

I haven't read the executive order in its entirety, but here is what I support. That everyone be treated equally, equal opportunity employment, simple as that. We agree that we don't believe neither blacks nor whites are superior to one another intellectually and that discrimination against blacks exists qualified blacks are discriminated against based on color.
Therefore something needed to be done, I'm not for quotas, but history has shown unequal hiring practices based on color so what do you do? If man did the right thing there would be no need for quotas and affirmative action.

We agree that people should be treated equally in regards to race etc....but we don't have the right to say others must think as we do, even if it was possible to enforce. Of course, it isn't; making a law that people can't discriminate based on race doesn't stop them from doing so, just makes them lie about it and feeds racial tensions.

What's so terrible about people refusing to hire based on their biases anyways? If a business in this day and age proclaimed it would only hire white people, they'd lose enough business to prove the stupidity of such a policy. Even if they didn't, passing over good employees for racial reasons would harm the business and make them less likely to succeed. vast majority of people learn very quickly the hard way when allowed to suffer the consequences of their actions; preventing them from doing so keeps them form learning and keeps them believing the same stupid stuff.

If you don't want people to be treated differently based on race, it's real simple: don't treat people differently based on race, and don't associate with those who do. History has shown us that the most effective way to change society is to walk the walk and lead others to understand the right of it. Let those who refuse to learn cling to their beliefs; the ideas won't survive the test of time.

[Triple_D_Bet]

Of course not, they try hard to get whites in, I can argue there should be less than 20% based on ability.

They try to get whites in for marketing value, can't blame the NBA there...people identify better with people they perceive as like themselves and are more likely to spend $$. My point is not every or even most racial discrepancies are racially based; they almost always have their roots in the choices people make, not because of discrimination.

[Kermit]

Tons.

When you say tons, how many is that compared to the number of white people applying?

[jtoler]

What's so terrible about people refusing to hire based on their biases anyways? If a business in this day and age proclaimed it would only hire white people, they'd lose enough business to prove the stupidity of such a policy. Even if they didn't, passing over good employees for racial reasons would harm the business and make them less likely to succeed. vast majority of people learn very quickly the hard way when allowed to suffer the consequences of their actions; preventing them from doing so keeps them form learning and keeps them believing the same stupid stuff.

If you don't want people to be treated differently based on race, it's real simple: don't treat people differently based on race, and don't associate with those who do. History has shown us that the most effective way to change society is to walk the walk and lead others to understand the right of it. Let those who refuse to learn cling to their beliefs; the ideas won't survive the test of time.

Here is where we disagree. Certainly businesses and corporations arnt hurt for not hiring blacks, we have hundreds of years of evidence of that, whites are an overwhelming majority for such to be true.

[jtoler]

When you say tons, how many is that compared to the number of white people applying?

Not sure if records are kept of solely based on applicants, but I've read numerous cases of blacks being toyed with over the process and getting discouraged.

[scumbag]

I honestly don't think there is anything subjective or debatable about how this thread was offensive.

Trying to debate it adds to the offense imho. It's clear. And I don't just mean for a black person but for anyone with a sense of humanity.

Anyway, as you already know I just don't get the US obsession with freedom of speech. If you talk like an asshole you should be treated like one. And to just stand by watching a small obsessed group find a new news story they can make an inflammatory race based generalization with every single day of the year is wrong too.

Thankfully someone usually does object in most threads but the same obsessed crew just overwhelm that as no one else without a personality disorder cares near as much as them about the issue.

I have to ignore it usually as it actually pisses me off enough to ruin my day but I keep seeing this stupid thread popping up day after day and some of truly fukked up things some people have posted and today I had to say something.

I bet these guys don't even really think the crap they say about any black/asian/jewish/mexican/muslim person they actually know in real life.

good to see not everyone on this site is a raging half-wit.

[Triple_D_Bet]

Here is where we disagree. Certainly businesses and corporations arnt hurt for not hiring blacks, we have hundreds of years of evidence of that, whites are an overwhelming majority for such to be true.

Businesses exist to make money for the owners, and any business that sticks around tends to do so by making wise decisions. If it's as you claim and businesses aren't hurt for not hiring black people, then they're hiring qualified candidates regardless of race, and there's no issue, and no need for affirmative action. I don't think there's any way of currently saying though; there's simply not enough data available to conclude one way or another. However, the law doesn't force people to hire without bias; it simply makes them lie about it.

What we can say for certain is that the over-sensitivity to race, gender, age and other "protected lifestyles" hampers businesses from getting rid of bad employees if they happen to fall under one or more "minority" designations. For fear of wrongful termination lawsuits handed out by zealous courts, employers have to exert far more resources to get rid of a 40 year old black women than a 30 year old white man when they're both bad employees. Now we have legislated anti-discrimination not only failing to prevent people from discriminating in hiring, but having the unintended consequences of interfering with business, either driving profits down or (in reality) driving the cost of good and services up for everyone.

You can't equate history with today's environment...it's simply not the same culture, and people don't believe the same things. Hundreds of years ago, what passed for science was proclaiming black people were inferior; today we know better. What people mistakenly think of as "racism" today is simply the tendency of people to prefer associating with others who are similar to them culturally. Not likely you're going to change that anytime soon, and you definitely won't change it by trying to legislate it.

Bottom line: you have the right to associate with whoever you please. You should have the right to choose who you enter into a contract with, and other people don't have any right to tell you what criteria you use to choose. You and I might not agree with such a discriminatory mentality, but a person has the right to do so, because's they aren't violating anyone else's rights. A person does not and cannot have a right to be hired or associated with by someone else, and trying to force it is not only ineffective, it's a foolish waste of time and resources.

[Triple_D_Bet]

good to see not everyone on this site is a raging half-wit.

Quite right! The half-wits are fairly easy to spot though; just look for the ones who insult everyone who disagrees with them simply because they disagree and/or have the audacity to ask that one to prove their assertions

[scumbag]

Bottom line: you have the right to associate with whoever you please.

What's so terrible about people refusing to hire based on their biases anyways?

listen to this penetrating half-wit!

If a business in this day and age proclaimed it would only hire white people, they'd lose enough business to prove the stupidity of such a policy

ya... some business is going to openly state blacks need not apply. they don't do it so openly; they do it by not interviewing you if you have a black sounding name. if you have white sounding name and show up as a black to the interview - they don't hire you. nobody is dumb enough to openly tell blacks to get ******.

this stupid penetrating racist can get ****** now. dumb roosterlicker. if you spewed this nonsense IRL - you'd be missing some teeth and have your eyes swelled shut right now. i'm penetrating sick of you cun.ts!

[DwightShrute]

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[Itsamazing777]

listen to this penetrating half-wit!



ya... some business is going to openly state blacks need not apply. they don't do it so openly; they do it by not interviewing you if you have a black sounding name. if you have white sounding name and show up as a black to the interview - they don't hire you. nobody is dumb enough to openly tell blacks to get ******.

this stupid penetrating racist can get ****** now. dumb roosterlicker. if you spewed this nonsense IRL - you'd be missing some teeth and have your eyes swelled shut right now. i'm penetrating sick of you cun.ts!

[Triple_D_Bet]

listen to this penetrating half-wit!



ya... some business is going to openly state blacks need not apply. they don't do it so openly; they do it by not interviewing you if you have a black sounding name. if you have white sounding name and show up as a black to the interview - they don't hire you. nobody is dumb enough to openly tell blacks to get ******.

this stupid penetrating racist can get ****** now. dumb roosterlicker. if you spewed this nonsense IRL - you'd be missing some teeth and have your eyes swelled shut right now. i'm penetrating sick of you cun.ts!

Oh no, I've been called a half-wit by a guy who has yet to do more than regurgitate things nobody's disputing, thinking it somehow proves a point he fails to ever make!

So let's see: with or without affirmative action, businesses aren't going to proclaim their racial hiring practices, but they're going to continue to discriminate based solely on race anyways (in your opinion). Care to remind us again why you think affirmative action laws are a good thing if you not only can't explain why they would be, but they fail to even achieve their stated goals?

(Nah, I'm just messing with you...go ahead and call me some more names instead of backing up your statements, as usual )

Always interesting how much you can learn about yourself when trying to get someone to explain the beliefs they tenaciously cling to...never knew I was racist, or dumb, or a roosterlicker. On top of all that, yet another example that violence is the last resort of the incompetent! Thanks for another amusing post, but for the sake of any dignity you might imagine you have, would be best to stop now.

Nah, just kidding again...get back to being so busy insulting others you completely forget to make a point

[Da Manster!]

Okay so now you're choosing who is and who isn't allowed to be offended based on what metric?

I have a daughter and a wife...the next time someone talks about females like meat...and I'm offended does that matter or do you assume all guys, including the ones making the post are offended?

I'm Jewish...I don't personally take offense to the antisemitic nonsense posted in here routinely because I'm an adult and its mere language...but not so sure others feel as lighthearted about that in here. So thats another example of selective targeting to offend..same thing can be said of Christin posters by the multiple atheist posters.

So again...this is a forum for adults, not children correct? But if you are going to suddenly start feeling guilty about words being posted and you hold the moderator label then enforce it across the board. Thats what you are entrusted by the SBR mothership with correct? Or does it say allow posters to ridicule Jews and women or make rape jokes and celebrate lines of cocaine and other illicit drug use and promote guys like Tracer who use to post videos delivering drug sales in the Bronx and thats fine to allow ongoing criminal activity to be uploaded to the forum but by God don't dare say anything about another group of people. All we ask is be objective...don't pick and choose who you think is or isn't offended. If you wanna be that guy.....then go ahead but embrace it. Some will agree with you and others will not...that is life.

dayum!!...another huge HR blast by itchypickle!...I'm talking 540 ft plus like Andres Galaragga's tape measure shot off Kevin Brown of the Marlins a few years back...longest blast I've ever seen in my 44 years of existence on this earth!...

[recon1]

Tells ya something about your character when a scumbag gives you bet points. HAHAHA!

[KVB]

...they do it by not interviewing you if you have a black sounding name. if you have white sounding name and show up as a black to the interview - they don't hire you.

Actually, there have been a few "studies" whereby the same resumes were sent out with different sounding names.
For example, Michael vs. LaMichael, Shawn versus LaShawn and Trisha Vs. Tisha, or similar names.

The results are as you might expect. If I'm not mistaken, it was worse for the black women names than any other group. They went deep though, with names like Dashiki and shit.

[scumbag]

Nah, just kidding again...get back to being so busy insulting others you completely forget to make a point

that's been my point; you're a penetrating idiot. do i need to refer you to your own words again as evidence?

[scumbag]

Tells ya something about your character when a scumbag gives you bet points. HAHAHA!

yep... he has some; you idiots are devoid of all.

[Triple_D_Bet]

that's been my point; you're a penetrating idiot. do i need to refer you to your own words again as evidence?

(Nah, I'm just messing with you...go ahead and call me some more names instead of backing up your statements, as usual )

Tells ya something about your character when a scumbag gives you bet points. HAHAHA!

Says nothing about opti's character, which I think is pretty solid despite our occasional disagreements; only says that scumbag agrees with him. Thankfully, lack of character isn't contagious like that

[recon1]

optional is 100% correct here. this thread is a penetrating disgrace, and dickheads like itchy should not only be run off, but have their penetrating asses kicked too.

itchy - you stupid penetrate. i laugh that a self-confessed jew would align himself with far-right-wing southerners. don't you know they hate your jewy ass?

stupid penetrating idiot. don't you know that after they go after the "liberals", "blacks", "mexicans" - you curly haired penetrates are next?

i'd also like to know how you became so stupid. jews are supposed to be smart (right up there with atheists as far as IQ). but you walk around with the IQ of an average christian. you're an embarrassment to your people.

Always talking like your some know-it-all about social issues. Southerners don't hate Jews, in fact Judaism is the roots of Christianity. If more Jews had half a brain after the socialist liberals in Germany killed 6+ million Jews, Jews would become more conservative and never allow themselves ever to be disarmed again.

You get your talking points directly from the southern poverty law center. A truly traitorous org.

Liberal, socialist inbreds like you have caused more anarchy and upheavel than any other group in history and should be exterminated asap.

[Optional]

Scumbag is angry and aggressive but that's not so hard to understand if it's personal to him whilst it is just an intellectual debate to most of us posting.

[recon1]

Says nothing about opti's character, which I think is pretty solid despite our occasional disagreements; only says that scumbag agrees with him. Thankfully, lack of character isn't contagious like that

Not sure about that. If you are saying anything that the scumbag appreciates is pretty low. You read this guys hate-filled post with all the racist remarks and bigotry?

[DwightShrute]

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[scumbag]

Scumbag is angry and aggressive but that's not so hard to understand if it's personal to him whilst it is just an intellectual debate to most of us posting.

it's no intellectual debate to these morons; they're simply nut low racists.

[scumbag]

Always talking like your some know-it-all about social issues. Southerners don't hate Jews, in fact Judaism is the roots of Christianity. If more Jews had half a brain after the socialist liberals in Germany killed 6+ million Jews, Jews would become more conservative and never allow themselves ever to be disarmed again.

You get your talking points directly from the southern poverty law center. A truly traitorous org.

Liberal, socialist inbreds like you have caused more anarchy and upheavel than any other group in history and should be exterminated asap.

plenty extreme right wingers in the south do. because jews are "liberal ****** lovers".

socialist liberals? do you even history, bro? everyone knows the nazis were fascists. and what's the definition of a fascist? oh... right... extreme right winger.

this guy is some kind of stupid.

synonyms:

authoritarian, totalitarian, autocrat,extreme right-winger, rightist;

1. (Government, Politics & Diplomacy) any ideology or movement inspired by Italian Fascism, such as German National Socialism; any right-wing nationalist ideology or movement with an authoritarian and hierarchical structure that is fundamentally opposed to democracy and liberalism

GTFO!!!

[Triple_D_Bet]

Not sure about that. If you are saying anything that the scumbag appreciates is pretty low. You read this guys hate-filled post with all the racist remarks and bigotry?

I'm sure scumbag appreciates breathing, and so do many of us...wouldn't say that says anything about breathing. Guys like scumbag, opti and pretty much everyone probably agree with me in more places than they disagree with me; it's just that the things we disagree upon are more likely to be discussed.

Scumbag's posts are probably not hate-filled as much as insult-filled. quite possibly because he's a bit lacking in the communication and critical thinking departments. More than a few folks behave similarly; when a discussion wanders beyond the boundaries of what they believe to be true, they protect their beliefs by mindlessly trying to discredit anyone who doesn't agree with them as idiots/racists/etc. Never ceases to amaze how something capable of discovering amazing truths (the brain) can, if you let it, instead insulate you from reality and let you exist in your own little world

[recon1]

plenty extreme right wingers in the south do. because jews are "liberal ****** lovers".

socialist liberals? do you even history, bro? everyone knows the nazis were fascists. and what's the definition of a fascist? oh... right... extreme right winger.

this guy is some kind of stupid.



GTFO!!!

So, your saying todays liberals are not fascist & totalitarians? with a big drop of corporate fascism?

Wait, you still think we have a two party system that's not working incahoots against our Constitutional Republic?

You are gonna give a lesson in Government?

Let me simplify it for ya sweet pea, we have a tyranny taking over and it will even consume it's little bitches that tote the elite water like you and you and your kind will only say: 'hey, i was doing your bidding and this is how your gonna pay me back' Trust me dude, it's a big tyranny ass whipping going down and you and i aren't invited to be nothing more than slaves and eventually dead rather sooner-than-latter.

[downsouth]

listen to this penetrating half-wit!



ya... some business is going to openly state blacks need not apply. they don't do it so openly; they do it by not interviewing you if you have a black sounding name. if you have white sounding name and show up as a black to the interview - they don't hire you. nobody is dumb enough to openly tell blacks to get ******.

this stupid penetrating racist can get ****** now. dumb roosterlicker. if you spewed this nonsense IRL - you'd be missing some teeth and have your eyes swelled shut right now. i'm penetrating sick of you cun.ts!

Because violence is of course a reasonable answer to someone who speaks something you don't agree with. Dude, you have issues and may very well be one of the most ineffective posters at getting anything resembling a point across. If someone is on the fence and reads your violent dribble they instantly lean the other way. You have the rare ability to ooze asshole thru a computer screen/mobile screen.

Learn to make a point without dropping F bombs and c unt in a sentence. By the way, c unt is such a derogatory term to women in general, why not find something better to use?


And assuming black people are aware of this trend of resumes with names and such why do they continue to push the name envelope further and further. If Jamal is struggling to get call backs then why would Jamal name his child Danswikaofus or some of the other marginally pronouceable names I often hear.

[scumbag]

they protect their beliefs by mindlessly trying to discredit anyone who doesn't agree with them as idiots/racists/etc.

but you are a racist - so there that - here's all the evidence we need:

What's so terrible about people refusing to hire based on their biases anyways?

Bottom line: you have the right to associate with whoever you please.

this is the language of a racist trying to justify institutional racism.

[mikewlgm]

You're correct Sir. It's a gambling forum, what else is one to expect but open language and opinions. It's pretty funny though that posters go on and on year in and year out about glory holes, sexually defiling 'broads', anal raping each other at the Bashes, making gifs about dildos and shitt stained bath towels and cocaine abuse or defrauding lenders or stealing family money to support gambling habits and it's business as usual but let someone being up skin color and suddenly there is talk of regulating posts and having everyone cover their eyes so they aren't offended.

[jtoler]

Because violence is of course a reasonable answer to someone who speaks something you don't agree with. Dude, you have issues and may very well be one of the most ineffective posters at getting anything resembling a point across. If someone is on the fence and reads your violent dribble they instantly lean the other way. You have the rare ability to ooze asshole thru a computer screen/mobile screen.

Learn to make a point without dropping F bombs and c unt in a sentence. By the way, c unt is such a derogatory term to women in general, why not find something better to use?


And assuming black people are aware of this trend of resumes with names and such why do they continue to push the name envelope further and further. If Jamal is struggling to get call backs then why would Jamal name his child Danswikaofus or some of the other marginally pronouceable names I often hear.

I kinda see why he drops F bombs now. So you give a typical response you hear from racists and that is take no responsibilty and blame the victim. So start naming your child more non black names in order to get a call back or interview? As if whomever is denying a job based on race wouldn't eventually find out that person's race via interview or simply seeing they circled African American on the resume.