Boom!

[Ron_Paul_2012]

Brooks trying to usurp the worstposter in this sub-forum trophy in one night of glory?

Not to worry comic book boy. Your crown & trophy are secure.

[MD]

lol you are the epitome of the example of foot in mouth. Read above.

And yes, how else could I have educated you on it lol?

Explain how ROI is more meaningful than EG. Go on, tell me how the relationship between investment and profit is more important than actual dollars won. Do you pay your bills with ROI?

[NunyaBidness]

Not to worry comic book boy. Your crown & trophy are secure.

How depressing is it for you to know in your heart that there is not one single mental or physical feat you could beat me at? I am simply a better man than you.

[MD]

Brooks, you should consider setting up some sort of trust so that Zuffa automatically gets 10% or so of any poker points you win. Then you can make fun of everyone for not doing the same.

'Night pal, you'll see me in your dreams later tonight.

[brooks85]

Explain how ROI is more meaningful than EG. Go on, tell me how the relationship between investment and profit is more important than actual dollars won. Do you pay your bills with ROI?

lol

I love how you dig your own grave. I don't have to do a thing. You don't have a clue what ROI is and that is clear. Here is hint, spell out ROI and then maybe you'll realize what you just typed out was about the dumbest thing ever.

What is your definition of "profit" then if it differs from "actual dollars won" lol.

[brooks85]

How depressing is it for you to know in your heart that there is not one single mental or physical feat you could beat me at? I am simply a better man than you.

conceding yet or anymore questions?

MD gave up so don't feel alone.

[Ron_Paul_2012]

How depressing is it for you to know in your heart that there is not one single mental or physical feat you could beat me at? I am simply a better man than you.

No comment necessary.

[Keyboard Warrior]

yes you are, you're just pulling the only card you have; Ignorance.


If you truly are not following my logic then you surely wouldn't mind coming and doing some work for me 0/hr since your time is apparently worthless to you. I'm not asking you to use any skills, just need your time so 0/hr right?

I was using the literal definition. Have you clarified WTF you mean when you say ROI??? Are you talking about Expected Value?

[brooks85]

[QUOTE=Keyboard Warrior;23228061]I was using the literal definition. Have you clarified WTF you mean when you say ROI??? Are you talking about Expected Value?[/QUOTE]

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When I say ROI, I'm talking about ROI... lol. Look it up is I can say, it is very simple metric and the most important. I don't know why or who told you to keep bring up EV? lol

ROI is based on results.

Here, let me give you some sage advice. Everything you've "learned" from this subforum, go ahead and forget it because it is wrong.

[Ron_Paul_2012]

conceding yet or anymore questions?

MD gave up so don't feel alone.

They're done brooks. All the wind went out of their sails after Luca nullified their little party. Well I've had my fun (for now). Have a good night ALL!

[MD]

lol

I love how you dig your own grave. I don't have to do a thing. You don't have a clue what ROI is and that is clear. Here is hint, spell out ROI and then maybe you'll realize what you just typed out was about the dumbest thing ever.

What is your definition of "profit" then if it differs from "actual dollars won" lol.

yes you are, you're just pulling the only card you have; Ignorance.

Projecting?

Yeah, ROI has nothing to do with the relationship between investment and profit. You sound like you know what you're talking about.

Tell me how ROI is a better metric than EG.

[NunyaBidness]

No comment necessary.

Let's wager on it, I'm willing to fly to your location. Chessboxing perhaps?

[JIBBBY]

Congrats Jibbby, you've been demoted to the third biggest retard in the forum!

Nunya this post was not necessary..

I'm just minding my own business and reading the posts while trying to understanding what is being said.. Enjoying my time on the forum and then I read this.. You silly bastard you...

By the way I think Brooks is doing a good job of holding his own. You go dog!!!!!

Keep winning that free money in those contests!!! That's awesome.

[brooks85]

Projecting?

Yeah, ROI has nothing to do with the relationship between investment and profit. You sound like you know what you're talking about.

Tell me how ROI is a better metric than EG.

as soon as you give me your definition of "profit" so I can see how it differs from "actual dollars won"


they have the dead horse emoticon, they need the digging grave deeper one

[MD]

as soon as you give me your definition of "profit" so I can see how it differs from "actual dollars won"

You should work on your reading comprehension.

"Explain how ROI is more meaningful than EG. Go on, tell me how the relationship between investment and profit is more important than actual dollars won."

If you read that as "actual dollars won is more important than profit", then you're even worse at English than you project. Nice job dodging the point yet again though, I ask the ROI expert repeatedly for its advantages over EG and suddenly he's silent. What a surprise.

[brooks85]

You should work on your reading comprehension.

"Explain how ROI is more meaningful than EG. Go on, tell me how the relationship between investment and profit is more important than actual dollars won."

If you read that as "actual dollars won is more important than profit", then you're even worse at English than you project.

lol, he still doesn't get it. No that is not how I read it since I said nothing of that nature

Again, what is your definition of "profit?"

Christ, I don't have all night you dummy. You're a dumbass who just implied profit is different from actual dollars won, they are the same god dam thing you jagone haha

[MD]

lol, he still doesn't get it. No that is not how I read it since I said nothing of that nature

Again, what is your definition of "profit?"

Christ, I don't have all night you dummy. You're a dumbass who just implied profit is different from actual dollars won, they are the same god dam thing you jagone haha

Except that I didn't, hence why your reading comprehension is so bad.

In this context, profit = financial gain. Now that I've answered your question, answer mine; what makes ROI superior to EG as a metric of success? Be detailed and thorough. Or are you going to dodge it again and hope that no one notices?

[Keyboard Warrior]

[QUOTE=brooks85;23228075]

I was using the literal definition. Have you clarified WTF you mean when you say ROI??? Are you talking about Expected Value?[/QUOTE]

...

When I say ROI, I'm talking about ROI... lol. Look it up is I can say, it is very simple metric and the most important. I don't know why or who told you to keep bring up EV? lol

ROI is based on results.

Here, let me give you some sage advice. Everything you've "learned" from this subforum, go ahead and forget it because it is wrong.

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because dude this is gambling. it seems like you're talking ROR in one post then referencing EV in another. Im still confused what you are getting at or trying to prove? The ROI thing is confusing. Seems we were talking EG vs EV.

Im not even clear with what you're saying?? Forget Kelly? That is the only thing we are talking here.

[brooks85]

Except that I didn't, hence why your reading comprehension is so bad.

In this context, profit = financial gain. Now that I've answered your question, answer mine; what are the advantages of ROI over EG as a metric of success? Be detailed and thorough. Or are you going to dodge it again and hope that no one notices?

lol so in this "context" if profit = financial gain what does "actual dollars won" =

I wish more people could see this haha

[brooks85]

[QUOTE=Keyboard Warrior;23228147]

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because dude this gambling. it seems like you're are talking ROR in one post then referencing EV in another. Im still confused what you are getting at or trying to prove? The ROI thing is confusing. Seems we were talking EG vs EV.

Im not even clear what your saying

No, MD must have learned a new term sometime since the last time I schooled him on this so he interjected it as last ditch effort. I brought up ROI, it is not EG or EV. It is the single most important metric when it comes to playing with your money and your time in any aspect.

[NunyaBidness]

No, MD must have learned a new term sometime since the last time I schooled him on this so he interjected it as last ditch effort. I brought up ROI, it is not EG or EV. It is the single most important metric when it comes to playing with your money and your time in any aspect.

If this is true, then explain the existence of Costco.

[MD]

It is the single most important metric when it comes to playing with your money and your time in any aspect.

How did I know what you'd do? I must be psychic.

Now that I've answered your question, answer mine; what makes ROI superior to EG as a metric of success? Be detailed and thorough. Or are you going to dodge it again and hope that no one notices?

Reply to this:

7-11 sells 32oz slurpees for $1, but they sell 64 oz slurpees for only a few cents more. Which item has the higher ROI? Which item would they prefer to sell? Why?

How dumb must you feel to be incapable of defending your point, and forced to just repeat it over and over while diverting attention and hoping no one notices?

[MD]

Attn: brooks85

What makes ROI superior to EG as a metric of success?

[alpinepetey]

Attn: brooks85

What makes ROI superior to EG as a metric of success?

Give him a minute, he's googling haha

[Keyboard Warrior]

maybe eg threw him off, probably should have framed it with kelly. I have myself confused now.


Brooks really did sound retarded talking profusely about being inefficient then bragging that was a better way to spend his time. diminishing returns? I don't have a clue what his point is.

[Keyboard Warrior]

i dont even know wtf we are talking about? ROI does not take into account time right? So why is Brooks obsessed with diminishing return or maximizing his time. Why would he worship ROI as the best way to measure something?

Am I going nuts or can someone explain to me what the hell is going on here?

[Vaughany]

[Vaughany]

It is 2014, I go with HD.

I know you're bitter but there is nothing wrong with being poor. It's just being poor and pretending you're not is your problem lol

Bt Sport HD... i thought we agreed that you were going to look in to this?

[Keyboard Warrior]

Dominick is my face reading this thread.

If you're going to measure the success of a gambler I wouldnt worry about his bankroll growth(guy could have a good edge but over/under bet)

I would look at his bets versus the closing line. PERIOD.

After all YOU make the bets and size them accordingly dont worry about someone's bankroll growth of if it is maximized.

You have to have edge before anything. It all starts there but you NEED a edge then some simple kelly math to win long term. Barring theft or banishment by the sportsbook.

Im done on this topic.

[Keyboard Warrior]

percentage of bankroll = Edge / (Odds – 1)

[Beelzebubzy]

Let's wager on it, I'm willing to fly to your location. Chessboxing perhaps?

I got my bet points, frequent flier miles, and my amex points on nunzer

[FightFightFight]

Jesus. Obviously you are calculating ROI differently. Brooks is using his starting bankroll as his entire investment. Everyone else, their cumulative bet amounts, which makes more sense. If there was only 2000 oz of slushie available, you'd be foolish to sell the jumbo at that price.
Being able to beat closing lines isn't everything. Thats silly. You simply need to be able to beat reality, and if you have no idea what that is, then closing lines are often your best approximation.
Also, Kelly is for nerds. A half truth you should learn something from, then discard.

[brooks85]

Jesus. Obviously you are calculating ROI differently. Brooks is using his starting bankroll as his entire investment. Everyone else, their cumulative bet amounts, which makes more sense. If there was only 2000 oz of slushie available, you'd be foolish to sell the jumbo at that price.
Being able to beat closing lines isn't everything. Thats silly. You simply need to be able to beat reality, and if you have no idea what that is, then closing lines are often your best approximation.
Also, Kelly is for nerds. A half truth you should learn something from, then discard.

wrong, so very wrong. Your bet amount is absolutely irrelevant.

I guess you would blindly tail pretty boy floyd on any pick he makes huh? His cumulative bet amounts are off the chart!!!

[brooks85]

Dominick is my face reading this thread.

If you're going to measure the success of a gambler I wouldnt worry about his bankroll growth(guy could have a good edge but over/under bet)

I would look at his bets versus the closing line. PERIOD.

After all YOU make the bets and size them accordingly dont worry about someone's bankroll growth of if it is maximized.

You have to have edge before anything. It all starts there but you NEED a edge then some simple kelly math to win long term. Barring theft or banishment by the sportsbook.

Im done on this topic.

ok so the guy beats the closing line and still has an ROI 5%. Lets see you spin that one.

That's the beauty of ROI, it tells you everything you need to know. More so than any other metric, interesting how you guys are able to complicate something that is very simple.

[brooks85]

conceding yet or anymore questions?

MD gave up so don't feel alone.

good idea you kept you mouth shut nunyah, you were looking like a real idiot there. You're welcome. Next time you want to come at me just remember I truly am better and more intelligent than you so be wary; or else we can prove it again.