Boom!

[Wilbo86]

Jimmies be rustling everywhere this eve

[Keyboard Warrior]

is brooks talking about EV when he says ROI? Because ROI could mean a few diff things. EG takes into account EV but EV is not the whole picture. YOU will lose everything only caring about EV.

[MD]

You mean I would have BEEN poor at one time when I pirated stuff and a hypocrite if I STILL did it while I was "rich."

Since I don't anymore thank you proving my point. I've been waiting for you to haha

You don't pirate anything, in 2014, and you're bragging about that? On a forum in which you play poker for bet points? You're a real success story Brooks. Living the dream.

Enjoy fanaticising about me.

[brooks85]

is brooks talking about EV when he says ROI? Because ROI could mean a few diff things. EG takes into account EV but EV is not the whole picture. YOU will lose everything only caring about EV.

you'll learn about in intro financing, it truly is the most important metric when it comes to investing and you won't find one wealthy person who disagrees. And any idiot who tells you gambling is not investing is just that, a gambler and not an investor. Guess who wins long run?

[Keyboard Warrior]

There are SMALL similarities between sports betting and investing, but the differences far outweigh it.

Also, ROI is COMPLETELY meaningless in sportsbetting. The most profitable gambler will never have the best ROI. The highest ROI is going to leave LOTS of money on the table.

You have a $10 million dollar bankroll, you can either have a 10% ROI on betting surfing, or a 0.1% ROI on NFL. Which do you choose?

Or the same example I'm used 100 times before. 7-11 sells 32oz slurpees for $1, but they sell 64 oz slurpees for only a few cents more. Which item has the higher ROI? Which item would they prefer to sell? Why?

i understand what you're saying about volume but isnt it significant harder to beat NFL than surfing? Shouldn't we just go for what we can personally obtain? I dont quite get the slurpee metaphor? Are you making a point about your hold?

[brooks85]

You don't pirate anything, in 2014, and you're bragging about that? On a forum in which you play poker for bet points? You're a real success story Brooks. Living the dream.

Enjoy fanatisizing about me.

jesus I know you're wrong a lot but damn, you're on a roll with that one and also I don't know where you learned math but how can a whole day be squeezed into one hour for the 11pm tourney lol. keep digging fool.

You don't win betpoints from poker dummy, you win poker points. Give it a try, you can afford a ppv someday maybe.

[mirinquads]

Miri I'd say the irony lays in this post of yours.. The person you are describing with hateful under tones is MD..

Take off your blinders buddy and see the entire field of play for what it is..... I don't hate anyone on this forum but MD has tried me a few times and I had to take a time out and check myself..

What?

You realize no one has adressed you at all for like 2 pages right? Da fuk are you talking about?

[Keyboard Warrior]

you'll learn about in intro financing, it truly is the most important metric when it comes to investing and you won't find one wealthy person who disagrees. And any idiot who tells you gambling is not investing is just that, a gambler and not an investor. Guess who wins long run?

uh wut? my grandma can pick stocks blind and get a 9 percent return. Cant do that on Pinny NFL lines.

[brooks85]

uh wut? my grandma can pick stocks blind and get a 9 percent return. Cant do that on Pinny NFL lines.

no she can't and definitely not long term.

[Ron_Paul_2012]

Go eat some canned ham, Plucky. Prepare for the your lizard overlords to arrive, you deranged old fool.

Good grief. Another delusional comic book reader. I hate to break it to ya kid but I don't own any lizard overlords. Get off the Krokodil son or I'll send this photo to your mom.



And for goodness sake. Trim your f-cking eyebrows!

[Bava]

jesus I know you're wrong a lot but damn, you're on a roll with that one and also I don't know where you learned math but how can a whole day be squeezed into one hour for the 11pm tourney lol. keep digging fool.

You don't win betpoints from poker dummy, you win poker points. Give it a try, you can afford a ppv someday maybe.

Europe has PPV?

[MD]

jesus I know you're wrong a lot but damn, you're on a roll with that one and also I don't know where you learned math but how can a whole day be squeezed into one hour for the 11pm tourney lol. keep digging fool.

You don't win betpoints from poker dummy, you win poker points. Give it a try, you can afford a ppv someday maybe.

A lesson from the pros. If I'm the dummy, why aren't you just playing poker for real money? Can't afford to? Too shitty a poker player? Too busy thinking about me?

[brooks85]

A lesson from the pros. If I'm the dummy, why aren't you just playing poker for real money? Can't afford to? Too shitty a poker player? Too busy thinking about me?

Law of diminishing returns.

At some point you realize it is not "worth" the time. For me that was only about 6 months into the grind then I found SBR, rest is history. Sports betting is a far better ROI plus time spent stuck at the table is an investment, the most important kind.

I like teaching you economics and financing, next question?

[NunyaBidness]

Brooks trying to usurp the worst poster in this sub-forum trophy in one night of glory?

[MD]

Law of diminishing returns.

At some point you realize it is not "worth" the time. I like teaching you economics and financing, next question?

Wait, what? It's worth it to spend an hour playing poker for "poker points" on a forum, but it isn't worth it to spend the same hour playing poker for actual money? Why, is your ROI lower?

Tell me more, James Maynard Keynes.

[brooks85]

Wait, what? It's worth it to spend an hour playing poker for "poker points" on a forum, but it isn't worth it to spend the same hour playing poker for actual money? Why, is your ROI lower?

Tell me more, James Maynard Keynes.

http://www.sportsbookreview.com/forum/players-talk/3010575-2015-sbr-bash-poker-tourney-5-000-cash-sponsored-bovada.html

next question?

lol

you plan on using that pro status haha, I guess not huh? How was BTP, o that's right you didn't enter. Do you even know what it is or do you just not want the accountability of a real record?

[NunyaBidness]

Law of diminishing returns.

At some point you realize it is not "worth" the time. For me that was only about 6 months into the grind then I found SBR, rest is history. Sports betting is a far better ROI plus time spent stuck at the table is an investment, the most important kind.

You do realize this is akin to saying, "Lol, why work at McDonalds, you'll only get minimum wage, I'm going to do an unpaid internship at Burger King instead."

[Keyboard Warrior]

Law of diminishing returns.

has nothing to do with gambling

[NunyaBidness]

http://www.sportsbookreview.com/foru...ed-bovada.html

next question?

lol

Definitely a +EV decision to spend hundreds of dollars to fly somewhere to play a tournament with an expected value of less than $200.

[brooks85]

has nothing to do with gambling

Well, first I wasn't talking about "gambling" as a whole. It was specifically cards games. Second, yes it has everything to do with anything you do to make money... of course unless you consider you and your time worthless? Is that what you're saying?

[NunyaBidness]

i understand what you're saying about volume but isnt it significant harder to beat NFL than surfing? Shouldn't we just go for what we can personally obtain? I dont quite get the slurpee metaphor? Are you making a point about your hold?

You're being too literal. My point was, an imagnary player with a large bankroll who can only beat NFL at a .1% clip is going to have a much lower ROI than the Surfing bettor, simply due to volume.

In the real world PROFIT = EDGE X VOLUME. Your goal is to increase both of those. If you spend all your time looking for 10% edges and ignoring the 1% edges you're leaving money on the table.

[brooks85]

Definitely a +EV decision to spend hundreds of dollars to fly somewhere to play a tournament with an expected value of less than $200.

opps wrong thread. It's the $5000 poker tourney, not the $5000 bash poker tourny. Thanks for clarifying

No need to leave home for the daily tourneys. You're an SBR pro you should know this... that is embarrassing.

[NunyaBidness]

Well, first I wasn't talking about "gambling" as a whole. It was specifically cards games. Second, yes it has everything to do with anything you do to make money... of course unless you consider you and your time worthless? Is that what you're saying?

You've admitted yourself, you're already spending time at the table. So, you're saying that your time IS indeed worthless.

Are you trolling? I swear you used to be a decent poster.

[MD]

http://www.sportsbookreview.com/foru...ed-bovada.html

next question?

lol

you plan on using that pro status haha, I guess not huh? How was BTP, o that's right you didn't enter. Do you even know what it is or do you just not want the accountability of a real record?

Okay, so you're playing online poker for poker points because there's a live poker tourney in February where you might win $2000 in a pool of 50 people? Wow. You really don't think your posts through, do you?

[JIBBBY]

What?

You realize no one has adressed you at all for like 2 pages right? Da fuk are you talking about?

Bava did.. lol... I'm just reading from the sidelines Miri... I don't mind being ignored once in a while...

[brooks85]

You've admitted yourself, you're already spending time at the table. So, you're saying that your time IS indeed worthless.

Are you trolling? I swear you used to be a decent poster.

I spend an hour at night multitasking while playing poker for a chance to sit at home and win 5k for first place. That is absolutely worth my time since I'm at the computer anyways.

So unless 5000 = 0 to you, you're making no sense. Go ahead though, I got ebay shit to take care of so try again. I'll be here. Also I have to enter my college bowl picks for the contest for another chance to win 5k, let me guess, that is worthless too lol?

[brooks85]

Okay, so you're playing online poker for poker points because there's a live poker tourney in February where you might win $2000 in a pool of 50 people? Wow. You really don't think your posts through, do you?

lol read above dummy, wrong thread I posted.

[NunyaBidness]

I spend an hour at night multitasking while playing poker for a chance to sit at home and win 5k for first place. That is absolutely worth my time since I'm at the computer anyways.

So unless 5000 = 0 to you, you're making no sense.

You could spend the same time playing 8 tournaments with individual cash prizes greater than that.

[MD]

lol read above dummy, wrong thread I posted.

That would make you the dummy.

So do you understand ROI yet?

[brooks85]

You could spend the same time playing 8 tournaments with individual cash prizes greater than that.

Or, I can put in 10% of the effort, go AFK from the tourny for up to 30mins some times, fall asleep and pass out, get blinded out, get bored and quit with no actually capital invested; do it this way and still have a chance to win.

Next question?

[brooks85]

That would make you the dummy.

So do you understand ROI yet?

lol you are the epitome of the example of foot in mouth. Read above.

And yes, how else could I have educated you on it lol?

[Keyboard Warrior]

Well, first I wasn't talking about "gambling" as a whole. It was specifically cards games. Second, yes it has everything to do with anything you do to make money... of course unless you consider you and your time worthless? Is that what you're saying?

nvm, im not following your logic in the slightest.

[brooks85]

nvm, im not following your logic in the slightest.

yes you are, you're just pulling the only card you have; Ignorance.


If you truly are not following my logic then you surely wouldn't mind coming and doing some work for me 0/hr since your time is apparently worthless to you. I'm not asking you to use any skills, just need your time so 0/hr right?

[NunyaBidness]

Congrats Jibbby, you've been demoted to the third biggest retard in the forum!

[Keyboard Warrior]

Or, I can put in 10% of the effort, go AFK from the tourny for up to 30mins some times, fall asleep and pass out, get blinded out, get bored and quit with no actually capital invested; do it this way and still have a chance to win.

Next question?

So you're trying to be inefficient but care about diminishing returns? Is this the Twilight Zone?