What the Hell is going on in Ferguson, Missouri?

[tony_come]

Due to these new pictures and the footage of him stealing, it's now okay that he was shot to death? A lot of guys here acting like, this is evidence that he deserved it.

I'm speechless

[slambam]

This is just another Trayvon Martin. TV makes him look like a saint by showing his baby faced pics from 5 years ago. Kid turned into a hoodlum. I'm not saying he deserved to die, but if it obeyed the law rather than acting like a toolbag, this doesn't happen.

[retard]

This is just another Trayvon Martin. TV makes him look like a saint by showing his baby faced pics from 5 years ago. Kid turned into a hoodlum. I'm not saying he deserved to die, but if it obeyed the law rather than acting like a toolbag, this doesn't happen.

just like the thug trayvon


Why not use the image trayvon was portraying himself as on his active twitter account or facebook account?@NO_LIMIT_*****

This picture saint trayvon was using on his twitter account
The picture he used for his facebook account

[itchypickle]

Retard -

Still can't believe they accused this sweet young man of horrific slayings....I mean look at him




Its Ted Bundy in his younger days but I mean, this is the standard right?

[jtoler]

This is Wilson's story from a few days ago.

Officer Darren Wilson saw two black gentlemen walking in the middle of the street. He pulled up near them, rolled down his window and asked them to get out of the street.

The two gentlemen (Mike Brown and Dorian Johnson) refused to listen and started yelling back & cursing. Officer Wilson pulled up in front of them, called for backup and then noticed that they were holding what looked to be like cigars.
Officer Wilson then stopped his car and tried to get out, but Mike Brown slammed the door shut violently on him. Wilson reopened the door and tried to stand up and get out, but Mike Brown rushed him, shoved him back into the car and then punched him in the face.
Officer Darren Wilson then tried to reach for his gun, but Mike Brown grabbed it first. At one point in time, the gun was facing Darren’s hip, but he managed to shove it away, at which point the gun went off.
Mike Brown then took off running. Darren, who is trained to pursue, responded by getting out of the car and ordering Mike to freeze.
Mike Brown and Dorian Johnson then turned around and started taunting Officer Wilson: “What’re you going to do about it!? You’re not going to shoot me!”
All of a sudden, Brown started to bum rush Officer Darren, so Darren started shooting, though Brown kept coming.

“He really thinks he was on something because he just kept coming. It was unbelievable.” (Jodie)

The final shot (R.I.P.) was to the forehead, after which Brown fell to the ground about two to three feet in front of the officer.
He was NOT shot in the back, and ballistics will prove as much.

I dont believe it.

[itchypickle]

AL Sharpton on TV says the video of Brown is 'allegedly him or someone who looks like him' and that 'it was shoplifting at best, not an 'alleged' robbery' but on the shooting, NO DOUBT he was 'MURDERED'

Jesse Jackson in the street passing around a can for donations...Sharpton and Crump in town running up legal bills.....only people who benefit here are these assholes. Unreal. I can see it now, Crump wins a civil settlement for the family of $3 million dollars and then sends them a bill for $3.5 million and says 'thanks...keep the faith...later' Moves on to the next town of exploitable people

[itchypickle]

I dont believe it.

So who do you believe? What happened in JTolers scenario?

[jtoler]

So who do you believe? What happened in JTolers scenario?

Dont know but its sad you can always see the racial divide in these situations, to me thats the saddest part of things like this. I dont care if the cop was black and victim white, if he escalated an incident that resulted in negligent homicide or shot a victim in the back Id be saying guilty. If everything went down like the cop said then I really dont fault him, but Ive been in situations myself where I did no wrong but my statement wasnt totally 100% accurate either, I might have hedged a little on my statement so people would have absolutely no reason to say "well if you had not done this or that".

[KRIT]

LOL at most of this thread. Everyone wants to have an opinion before all the facts come out. Why don't we all just chill and let everything unfold. Regardless if Mike Brown was a thug/gangbaner or a golden child, nobody deserves to get killed innocently. If he did infact raise his hands in the air while getting shot, then the cop should go to jail for a long time. But if all these statements about him bumrushing the cop and trying to fight the cop are true, then he deserved it. But no point of trying to jump to conclusions. We should know soon.

[itchypickle]

Dont know but its sad you can always see the racial divide in these situations, to me thats the saddest part of things like this. I dont care if the cop was black and victim white, if he escalated an incident that resulted in negligent homicide or shot a victim in the back Id be saying guilty. If everything went down like the cop said then I really dont fault him, but Ive been in situations myself where I did no wrong but my statement wasnt totally 100% accurate either, I might have hedged a little on my statement so people would have absolutely no reason to say "well if you had not done this or that".

Agreed. And its no secret that police are trained to do laughable things like repeatedly yell 'stop resisting stop resisting' when trying to handcuff people in order to cover themselves should things be said later....as in any slight movement while on the ground can be construed as such. I'll be the first to say that. At the same time I have no problem with the routine multiple officers taking people to the ground, that isn't 'brutality' to me its simple numbers for more safety than anything, arrests shouldnt be like a street fight to go one on one til the submission, you're there to apprehend someone not pummel them so if while in the process they start kicking a man in the face etc....thats in the wrong but the simple throw to the concrete and knee to the back of the neck while others go for the arms, standard control. In this Ferguson case, once the fight happened and weapon is out....its a dynamic game changer, like I've already posted if Williams chases him and walks up on a wounded man and empties a clip into his forehead....by all means...trial needed for murder but in the course of duty a fight ensues, Brown turns to come back at him and the initial shots either miss or dont harm Brown and he is still charging as these stories are coming in...thats not murder and no charges should be filed. Its tough to be a cop in these instances, go hands on hundreds of times and nothing happens and in a matter of seconds in one event if its misconstrued one way or the other, your life or carer is over.

[recon1]

AL Sharpton on TV says the video of Brown is 'allegedly him or someone who looks like him' and that 'it was shoplifting at best, not an 'alleged' robbery' but on the shooting, NO DOUBT he was 'MURDERED'

Jesse Jackson in the street passing around a can for donations...Sharpton and Crump in town running up legal bills.....only people who benefit here are these assholes. Unreal. I can see it now, Crump wins a civil settlement for the family of $3 million dollars and then sends them a bill for $3.5 million and says 'thanks...keep the faith...later' Moves on to the next town of exploitable people

He's a bidness man.

[Kermit]

I dont believe it.

I didn't believe it at first, but if you listen to the guy talking in that video, everything that he says coincides with what Darren Wilson said happened. Well the part about Brown charging the cop. This came from someone who apparently seen everything that went down.

[jtoler]

I didn't believe it at first, but if you listen to the guy talking in that video, everything that he says coincides with what Darren Wilson said happened. Well the part about Brown charging the cop. This came from someone who apparently seen everything that went down.

Half of what he's saying you cant understand and there is no subscript for it and for good reason. The very first thing he says is "I dont know what happened" and says that phrase multiple times.

[cloverfield]

I didn't believe it at first, but if you listen to the guy talking in that video, everything that he says coincides with what Darren Wilson said happened. Well the part about Brown charging the cop. This came from someone who apparently seen everything that went down.

Just like when the Trayvon Martin thing went down. Lawyers were saying "Trayvon was not a violent man he wouldn't harm a fly". Next thing you know pictures of George Zimmermans battered face come out and nobody knows how it happened.

Maybe Zimmerman punched himself in the face 20 times to get bloodied up. Every time a young person of color somehow dies he was the biggest angel on the face of the planet. I think it's horrible when anyone dies but the way the media slants this stuff is OUT OF CONTROL.

[jtoler]

Just like when the Trayvon Martin thing went down. Lawyers were saying "Trayvon was not a violent man he wouldn't harm a fly". Next thing you know pictures of George Zimmermans battered face come out and nobody knows how it happened.

Maybe Zimmerman punched himself in the face 20 times to get bloodied up. Every time a young person of color somehow dies he was the biggest angel on the face of the planet. I think it's horrible when anyone dies but the way the media slants this stuff is OUT OF CONTROL.

Im not violent either, but if Im simply walking down the street and a car approaches and a guy starts harrassing me and he actually gets out of his car, approaches me and puts his hands on me then I will BECOME violent.

[Kermit]

Half of what he's saying you cant understand and there is no subscript for it and for good reason. The very first thing he says is "I dont know what happened" and says that phrase multiple times.

You can hear plain as day what is being said here. Nothing said about arms being raised in the air saying "don't shoot" the guy thought the cop was missing when he was firing on him.

[itchypickle]

Well, watched the church rally and Ron Johnson spoke....lost a lot of the positive thoughts I had on the guy.

[jtoler]

You can hear plain as day what is being said here. Nothing said about arms being raised in the air saying "don't shoot" the guy thought the cop was missing when he was firing on him.

I heard a longer version initially, he said other things before. So question, before this came out and there was supposedly witnesses saying the opposite, why didnt you nor any that look like you on this board believe any of that, but rather denounced it, yet want to believe this?

[Kermit]

I heard a longer version initially, he said other things before. So question, before this came out and there was supposedly witnesses saying the opposite, why didnt you nor any that look like you on this board believe any of that, but rather denounced it, yet want to believe this?

The witnesses all seemed to have variations of the incident. One person said that Brown was on his knees with his hands in the air and the other one did not.

I initially believed the witness accounts until I found out these 2 guys had just robbed a store, after that IMO whatever Dorian Johnson's recollection was about the incident was tainted, and therefor not believable. Crooks will say anything to keep each other out of trouble and try and look innocent.

[Kermit]

And if it turns out that Brown didn't get shot in the back, then that will make Dorian Johnson's story look even worse.

[Kermit]

Do you realize that if it comes out that Johnson lied and made this story up, he will have been responsible for inciting the riots and unrest in that town?

[itchypickle]

And if it turns out that Brown didn't get shot in the back, then that will make Dorian Johnson's story look even worse.

also so will be good to hear ballistics report. Was final shot at point blank range from his knees or was it several feet away standing as the officer and video say.

[jtoler]

The witnesses all seemed to have variations of the incident. One person said that Brown was on his knees with his hands in the air and the other one did not.

I initially believed the witness accounts until I found out these 2 guys had just robbed a store, after that IMO whatever Dorian Johnson's recollection was about the incident was tainted, and therefor not believable. Crooks will say anything to keep each other out of trouble and try and look innocent.

Not referring to Johnson's account but cops will say anything to cover themselves also after all he killed somebody.

[itchypickle]

CNN interviewed Mike Mike's teacher who just got through pushing him to graduate credits....at the Positive Alternative Learning Center was the school he attended. Kennedy said of Brown's college hopes we've all heard about this week....brown had dreams to one day excel and get a certificate in heating and cooling installation so he could meet his dream of being able to provide for himself.

[tony_come]

Obama should invite Dorian Jackson to meet his daughters

[jtoler]

also so will be good to hear ballistics report. Was final shot at point blank range from his knees or was it several feet away standing as the officer and video say.

Why do you give credit to what someone in the video says but not opposing views before you saw this, because earlier versions didnt corroborate with what you wanted to have happened?

[Ted Sheckler]

Im not violent either, but if Im simply walking down the street and a car approaches and a guy starts harrassing me and he actually gets out of his car, approaches me and puts his hands on me then I will BECOME violent.

Understandable if it's just one of us that pulls up harassing you...But what do you do if a cop pulls up and asks you to get out of the middle of the street? Or like Dorian said "get the fuk out of the street and on the sidewalk" then pulls away, do you get on the sidewalk or talk shit to the cop and disobey?

[itchypickle]

Why do you give credit to what someone in the video says but not opposing views before you saw this, because earlier versions didnt corroborate with what you wanted to have happened?

Inconsistencies and just using common sense on how something like that would play out. I'm a white dude so maybe that plays into believing a 28 year old cop who works 12 hrs a day for 6 years for low pay in an obviously hostile region yet still does so with a clean recording awards as shown in his FB pic posted by a proud mom vs a young guy who is on video committing a crime, felony or misdemeanor aside moments before a struggle between the two goes down. Call me crazy. I'd say the same thing if it was a black cop vs a white kid who just stole a car or whatever. Who has more to lose and gain is what I approach these things with

[jtoler]

Inconsistencies and just using common sense on how something like that would play out. I'm a white dude so maybe that plays into believing a 28 year old cop who works 12 hrs a day for 6 years for low pay in an obviously hostile region yet still does so with a clean recording awards as shown in his FB pic posted by a proud mom vs a young guy who is on video committing a crime, felony or misdemeanor aside moments before a struggle between the two goes down. Call me crazy. I'd say the same thing if it was a black cop vs a white kid who just stole a car or whatever. Who has more to lose and gain is what I approach these things with

Im not asking to believe Johnson's version, he was with the victim who did wrong earlier, Im referring to eyewitnesses other than Johnson before this video came out. Did you hear or read various versions? If youre admitting being bias I respect that.

[tony_come]

La clippers only have 1 white player

[retard]

One of the animals shot a reporter who is in critical condition

http://live.wsj.com/video/one-shot-seven-arrested-in-ferguson-protests/C48E3189-F683-45AD-AAD2-8D9BE46D7303.html

[jtoler]

La clippers only have 1 white player

LA Clippers ex-owner wanted to win.

[Kermit]

LA Clippers ex-owner wanted to win.

I'll be the first to admit that when I see more than one white guy on the floor in an NBA game, I get angry.

[itchypickle]

I've heard a lot of the versions. I was just more skeptical of the original ones that there wasn't a struggle and then they said it was a struggle but no fight...and then the girl who said all she saw after hearing the shots was the police shooting him outside the cruiser. Too much happens in between to just stick with one and not look at the guy who saw it from struggle to end and it happens to match the officer as well....it's not someone speaking to media later and able to give a twist after seeing people yelling in the street a cop just killed a kid and chased him. Stories get tainted then. The girl who was on the balcony, she saw the end from there and then said she didn't think a cop just shot a man in the street but then people were running around on the street yellin they killed mike they killed mike. That gets corrupted.

I get the bias. People are either pro or anti cops in general. You have the ones who view them pretty much according to how they conduct themselves and it's a distrust built mostly from early on to not like them. White or black, Doesn't matter what matters is the attitude.Plenty of whites grow up hating cops too. If you're out goin to the store and get pulled over, smart off to the cop and you get him being an asshole right back regardless of color.

[Kermit]

^^^If any other witnesses from that neighborhood would come forward and tell a story that disputed what any of the other witnesses said, I would imagine that their lives would be in serious jeopardy. And I am sure they are aware of that.