What the Hell is going on in Ferguson, Missouri?

[ByeShea]

Actually, no. I'm basing my opinions off of people WHO LIVE IN FERGUSON.

Again, you're inadvertently admitting near total ignorance of the case.

They're all over social media with receipts that they do in fact live there and are more than happy to chat. White and black all saying the same thing.

In most parts of America these kinds of people are called "losers".

Do you live there?

In the place determined to be the second safest in Missouri?

Safe for whom, black ruffians? Are you out of your mind?

I don't get my information from "headlines and activist blogs".

Apparently not. It's all hashtags these days, eh?

Move outside of the US

No.

You would kill to live in a country that has mandatory at least 4 weeks vacation a year, mandatory health care for all, mandatory employer contributions of 9% to your retirement fund all while living in a place that you know you're not going to get killed by a gun.

Sounds like a peasant's wet dream, but no thank you.

Don't tell me I don't know about St Louis.

I'm sorry, but you don't. And you don't beans about America to begin with.

This doesn't make you bad or less than. I don't know much about Australia. But then again, I'm not writing online missives or scolding or indicting Australians in regards to any overblown media stories they have down there either.

This is about Ferguson. Talk to someone who lives there. I've talked to many.

Wow. I have one question: why?

[Kermit]

Read something interesting. The QuickTrip gas station/convenience store that was burned down had the word "Snitches get Stitches" spray painted on it.

Speculations are that whomever did it mistakenly thought that was the store that was robbed by Brown and they thought he was shot because someone squealed about him stealing. So this robbery video revealed today was no real surprise to the people living in Ferguson.

[Plaza23]

Hey Shari - if the US shipped all of our ghetto blacks to England, you'd have a major problem over there.

12.5 % of the US population (and really its about 4% since Black Males ages 15 to 34 do most of the crime) - are committing over 49% of murders in the US. It has nothing to do with guns.

That you would defend this thug Michael Brown is ridiculous. Even more ridiculous that blacks would loot and riot over the cops killing a known thug/robber who just committed a felony (ON TAPE) 2hrs prior. His committing that robbery completely jives with the cop's story of Brown tussling with police for his gun. If you just committed a robbery 2 hrs before and then the police come up to you, you are going to think something is up and it makes sense that if Brown could strong arm a small asian man just 2hrs prior, he could think to intimidate the police as well. This 6'2 300 pound fat waste of space got what was coming to him.

The police got rid of another thug on the street. Ferguson is safer without Brown on the street. Good for them. If Brown had simply complied with the officer's orders, he'd still be alive. He didnt.

The cop is not going to be charged with anything nor should he be.

If you are any color, comply with the police orders when they tell you something. Otherwise, you are risking suicide by cop.

All the white guilters, blacks, wiggers, far left liberals, and Euros in this thread have gotten embarrassed. You guys all defended a thug and attacked the police for getting rid of the trash. You defended the sub human ghetto blacks that rioted and looted their own neighborhood Y'all got egg on your faces.

End of discussion.

[recon1]

Just seen this pic. His buddy Dorian is in the background.

Where all of the crybabies now? The ones saying the cops murdered this choir boy in the streets and all of the hood rats as witneses said the "Victim" was executed. After seeing a lot of the evidence i can say with a certain level of confidence the cop was the only good guy in this unfortunate situation. Rest in pieces Brown

[Plaza23]

1. I've never said "I know the answer and I know why" I've consistently said that I've talked to many people who live in Ferguson just like everyone else can attempt to.


2. You're right in that no sane person accepts why "anyoe dies in such a manner".

3. The facts are available on social media and being retweeted and responded to by your favourite supposed "news" station, whether you're left or right. Most knew 5 days ago on SM that they'd tried to steal cigars. Everyone saw days ago the vid of how they didn't cover his body "immediately" like the Chief said.

4. Yes I am accusing this invisible cop who isn't a member of the Ferg Police force despite the Chief saying a few days ago that he was nor is a member of St Louis County.. of murdering someone in cold blood with zero justification to do so.

Shari, you're a penetrating idiot.

There's nothing really else to say. The "facts are on social media".

Just stop.

I'm assuming you've never actually been to St Louis or the northside in particular. Its a hellhole. I live in Illinois. I've been to St Louis many times. Normandy (the school where Michael Brown went too), is in one of the worst areas of St Louis. Normandy actually had their accreditation from the Missouri Board of Education pulled because the school was so bad. The state had to come in and take over the school. Normandy is one of the worst areas in the US. Ferguson is turning that way too after all of the white flight. It will end up just like East St Louis.

So please - knock it off with the "i know what is going on because i read social media"

Thats the most retarded thing I have ever read on this site, and that is saying alot.

Stop acting like you know what the cop did or didnt do. We do know what Michael Brown did 2 hrs before the incident occurred. That much we know. Forensics will also tell us at what angle he was shot and how many times. That will come out as well.

But taking up the crusade for a 6'2 300 that thought he could intimidate police and intimidate others around him is ridiculous...you mess with the cops, they are going to crack some skulls. I dont blame them given the environments they work in.

[recon1]

Hey Shari - if the US shipped all of our ghetto blacks to England, you'd have a major problem over there.

12.5 % of the US population (and really its about 4% since Black Males ages 15 to 34 do most of the crime) - are committing over 49% of murders in the US. It has nothing to do with guns.

That you would defend this thug Michael Brown is ridiculous. Even more ridiculous that blacks would loot and riot over the cops killing a known thug/robber who just committed a felony (ON TAPE) 2hrs prior. His committing that robbery completely jives with the cop's story of Brown tussling with police for his gun. If you just committed a robbery 2 hrs before and then the police come up to you, you are going to think something is up and it makes sense that if Brown could strong arm a small asian man just 2hrs prior, he could think to intimidate the police as well. This 6'2 300 pound fat waste of space got what was coming to him.

The police got rid of another thug on the street. Ferguson is safer without Brown on the street. Good for them. If Brown had simply complied with the officer's orders, he'd still be alive. He didnt.

The cop is not going to be charged with anything nor should he be.

If you are any color, comply with the police orders when they tell you something. Otherwise, you are risking suicide by cop.

All the white guilters, blacks, wiggers, far left liberals, and Euros in this thread have gotten embarrassed. You guys all defended a thug and attacked the police for getting rid of the trash. You defended the sub human ghetto blacks that rioted and looted their own neighborhood Y'all got egg on your faces.

End of discussion.

Plaza, who do you think you are, coming in here talking all that common sense. You nailed it with the last paragraph!

[The Kraken]

Wait... How did any of those types get embarrassed? What did I miss? What happened

[existential]

Just seen this pic. His buddy Dorian is in the background.

the more pics they release, the more guilty he looks. the reports are also saying he attacked the cop.

[teaserpleaser]

Wtf is wrong you "people" and I use that term loosely ... Let me guess when the autopsy comes back and he's positive for weed it will be a big deal to you guys right. And god damn gets some class you guys calling Shari a bitch need to grow the fukk up.I fukk around on here blow of steam but some of you guys have some serious issues. I often wonder where the fukk most of you dumb fukks live. Bunch of winners spent your Friday night posting hate on a sports gambling forum= winners lmao Shari don't waste your time on these retards let them have their E-klan meeting.

[teaserpleaser]

It's starting to feel like the someone who spent 6 hours today discussing a news story on a messageboard is you and not me.

I'm starting to think you don't know how to count I stop in and out nice try though but fail ...I like how you spent your Friday night

[retard]

Animals are looting dominos and mcdonalds

[itchypickle]

The pic holding the gun goes directly against the family saying he was scared of guns.....but that's all beside the point we all know he wasn't the sweet kid with the headphones on at Chuck E Cheese they keep showing. The biggest break in all this will be the facial injury to the officer. Soon as that goes public, game over.

[teaserpleaser]

itchy c'mon man you are a bit racist at times but you seem like a decent human being, I don't care about the racism we're dealing with degenerate pwt for the most part from the southeast and Midwest that live very sheltered lives but you don't have any problem with the way they talk to Shari? Very disrespectful....

[KingJD31]

Go cry over a forum mod getting called a bitch, you need pussy in the worst way

Wtf is wrong you "people" and I use that term loosely ... Let me guess when the autopsy comes back and he's positive for weed it will be a big deal to you guys right. And god damn gets some class you guys calling Shari a bitch need to grow the fukk up.I fukk around on here blow of steam but some of you guys have some serious issues. I often wonder where the fukk most of you dumb fukks live. Bunch of winners spent your Friday night posting hate on a sports gambling forum= winners lmao Shari don't waste your time on these retards let them have their E-klan meeting.

[itchypickle]

itchy c'mon man you are a bit racist at times but you seem like a decent human being, I don't care about the racism we're dealing with degenerate pwt for the most part from the southeast and Midwest that live very sheltered lives but you don't have any problem with the way they talk to Shari? Very disrespectful....

Not saying I agree with the forum bater directed at Shari, but I've always seen her handle herself just fine on the board dating back to before she was a mod...anyone who can manage to stay on dealing with JJ's perverted arse to some of the younger crowd's attacks is gonna be ok without adding to the e-rivalries that go on here.

And on the racist piece, I'll call a white redneck Auburn fan with a confederate flag tank top on out just as fast as I'll call the Trayvon and Brown protestors out....ignorance is ignorance it knows no color Like Martin Luther King said, judge the man based on his character not color of his skin.....so if a black guy is in Ferguson saying kill the po po, racist officer hunted down Brown and executed him like an animal for walking while black....I'm gonna call asshole....at same time Capt Ron Johnson there keeping the peace is a black man.....I give him respect....character.

[retard]

Not saying I agree with the forum bater directed at Shari, but I've always seen her handle herself just fine on the board dating back to before she was a mod...anyone who can manage to stay on dealing with JJ's perverted arse to some of the younger crowd's attacks is gonna be ok without adding to the e-rivalries that go on here.

And on the racist piece, I'll call a white redneck Auburn fan with a confederate flag tank top on out just as fast as I'll call the Trayvon and Brown protestors out....ignorance is ignorance it knows no color Like Martin Luther King said, judge the man based on his character not color of his skin.....so if a black guy is in Ferguson saying kill the po po, racist officer hunted down Brown and executed him like an animal for walking while black....I'm gonna call asshole....at same time Capt Ron Johnson there keeping the peace is a black man.....I give him respect....character.

Everyone's favorite negro messiah couldn't handle the savages that looted, shot at police, and attacked the media last night

[itchypickle]

A pretty good explanation was given, with graphics of course on CNN, that makes probably the most sense I've seen in one calmly stated descriptions on the day and event in question, ties in the police action, the robbery, and the few seconds at the end seen by the witnesses.

Whether the officer did or did not know that Brown just robbed the store, mike brown himself knew he had JUST robbed the store and was on his way home when the police car pulls up to him and Dorian. This could explain why he was more aggressive with the cop thinking he's about to be arrested for the robbery. The graphics show the car's direction in relation to the two men walking, Brown is closest to the middle of the lanes engaged with the officer inside the parked car while Dorian is trying to head in the opposite direction back toward the sidewalk....the struggle/fight whatever you want to label it is happening a shot is fired...in a matter of seconds as Brown leaves the car window and moves up the street the officer is coming out of his car still aiming at him and firing a few shots where at least one hits its mark spinning Brown around and then the last and final round ends it.

All of the flows well with how things normally happen vs the dramatic overplay of both Dorian's version and the family attorney's where depending on which version you watch, they have Brown running around in between the cars begging, one has him standing and hands up, one has him kneeling on his knees and talking to the cop putting hands up and is then shot in the face, the female eyewitness states the only part she saw was Brown in motion running and turning and being shot up close.....that could easily be true and the last part of the entire scene since she was in the area in her car picking up a coworker when she heard a shot and looked down the street and saw Brown running and then being shot dead...the shot she heard was the one during the fight at the car and then she saw the officer shooting at him as a result of that.

[teaserpleaser]

Go cry over a forum mod getting called a bitch, you need pussy in the worst way

pussy is the least of my concerns its no big deal shari will roll you into a pretzel its just not cool is all i'm saying who is crying? ....lack of class but to be expected.

[Ted Sheckler]

Wtf is wrong you "people" and I use that term loosely ... Let me guess when the autopsy comes back and he's positive for weed it will be a big deal to you guys right. And god damn gets some class you guys calling Shari a bitch need to grow the fukk up.I fukk around on here blow of steam but some of you guys have some serious issues. I often wonder where the fukk most of you dumb fukks live. Bunch of winners spent your Friday night posting hate on a sports gambling forum= winners lmao Shari don't waste your time on these retards let them have their E-klan meeting.

Weed is legal in some places and ridiculous that it's not legal everywhere. So why would it matter if he had it in his system, which he probably does because he was stealing cigars. But what isn't legal is robbery and putting hands on a cop. Doesn't deserve to get shot, but still.

[itchypickle]

Weed is legal in some places and ridiculous that it's not legal everywhere. So why would it matter if he had it in his system, which he probably does because he was stealing cigars. But what isn't legal is robbery and putting hands on a cop. Doesn't deserve to get shot, but still.

People are going to take from all of it what we all feel personally on both sides. George Zimmerman's lawyer even put it as accurate as it can be stated on CNN last night.....this is now 25% shooting investigation and 75% media driven racially charged cultural event. So basically all of the back and forth in the public sphere has not much to do with the actual shooting and upcoming legal case. All the rush to 'gimme all the info, gimme evidence, I want everything anyone has' attitude within the first week to the public and media is insane. Especially since Don Lemon was standing there with the protesters after the video release and even though the family and attorneys and Dorian said yes it was him and Brown in the store and that Brown did indeed steal the cigars.....the protestors are saying its fake and trumped up by the police....there is no rational debate with that crowd of thinking. The same reporters and attorneys who begged for information even though its incomplete are now mad that the information isnt what they like....and in one breath say the Ferguson chief is incompetent and has no clue what he's doing and then turn around and say he is a genius mastermind who is magically crafting this strategically in an effort to build the perfect coverup.

[ByeShea]

itchy c'mon man you are a bit racist at times but you seem like a decent human being, I don't care about the racism we're dealing with degenerate pwt for the most part from the southeast and Midwest that live very sheltered lives but you don't have any problem with the way they talk to Shari? Very disrespectful....

This thread is now about disrespectful behavior. But please keep in mind that stealing items from a store and shoving the tiny proprietor around like he's a nuisance will still be irrelevant to the topic.

[Ted Sheckler]

As soon as it came out that white cop shot black kid...we knew what this was coming to. Blacks want justice, whether they find out Brown had a gun and shot at police or if he didn't have a gun. They just want justice because a white killed him. If a black cop shot him, we would of never heard about this even if Brown was unarmed and reaching in a cop car and the black cop reacted poorly and shot him right away.

This isn't about cops treating blacks poorly it's all about race...which is sad especially when we find out this white cop was married to a black woman and had mixed children with her...yikes

[itchypickle]

As soon as it came out that white cop shot black kid...we knew what this was coming to. Blacks want justice, whether they find out Brown had a gun and shot at police or if he didn't have a gun. They just want justice because a white killed him. If a black cop shot him, we would of never heard about this even if Brown was unarmed and reaching in a cop car and the black cop reacted poorly and shot him right away.

This isn't about cops treating blacks poorly it's all about race...which is sad especially when we find out this white cop was married to a black woman and had mixed children with her...yikes

Ponder this one - the first night of looting and burning of stores the police stood by so as not to take the bait and engage....the police were then blamed for allowing the crowds to carry on as they did

the next few nights police beefed up presence and controlled the crowds and arrested looters and people throwing bricks and bottles....the police were blamed for being heavy handed and it looked bad with white police arresting black citizens like 1964 south

this weekend a black officer is put in charge and overnight the liquor store was looted and bottles thrown elsewhere while a reporter stands there asking why there are 4 nearby armored police vehicles and all they are doing is asking 'please please, please stop, dont do that, please dont loot' yet they would not arrest anyone they just watched- the police are then blamed for having the presence but not enforcing laws when they should have stepped in

See the trend here...its NEVER the thugs fault...doesnt matter what the police do, no responsibility on the criminals part right? Always the evil police. Plays out in the shooting to....you can cherry pick pics of Mike Brown as a kid and say 'he was scared of guns, gentle giant, going to college soon and become a successful man' yet when the overwhelming evidence of his nature comes out that he was a big bully, loved the thug culture, had JUST finished extra classes needed to finish high school over the summer to get into a community college until he had better grades - but to hear the media all week he was a responsible exceptional scholar. And all we heard of the cop was 'he's white so he must be a racist on a power trip' but when it turns out he's a 6 year veteran with NO bad records and if its true he's married to a black chic.......what does common sense tell you here guys?

[Kermit]

All I know is that the people up there have no right or reason to be rioting and looting and eventually it is not going to be allowed to continue, and it is going to get very ugly. I just hope that no innocent people get hurt or killed when it does.

[itchypickle]

All I know is that the people up there have no right or reason to be rioting and looting and eventually it is not going to be allowed to continue, and it is going to get very ugly. I just hope that no innocent people get hurt or killed when it does.

Yep, no excuses other than a bunch of idiots looking for a way to act out and then play the victim again. It's friday night, lets throw own a mask and drive to a nearby town and break into a liquor store and steal alcohol and then explain to the police who arrest us that we are just sad over a person we never knew existed until we saw it on Twitter so we shouldn't be held accountable for our crime. Makes total sense.

[Ted Sheckler]

What does throwing molitov cocktails do? Does that prove any points? Or is that just animals having fun?

Maybe because they aren't just protesting but quite a bit of looting going on makes me think the area is no good, but everyone always says "it's not people from our town looting, them folks are good people". It's always people driving 10 hours away that are doing the looting of hair saloon and liqour stores and fubu clothes.

[hostile takeover]

Maybe because they aren't just protesting but quite a bit of looting going on makes me think the area is no good, but everyone always says "it's not people from our town looting, them folks are good people".

I've lived in STL for 30 years. I never go up there unless absolutely necessary. At this point I don't think it's the residents of Ferguson/Florrissant doing this at all, but north STL and North County STL are full of ghetto towns with people who have nothing better to do and no sense of prosperity.

I feel bad for the residents of Ferguson. They are not all bad. Unfortunately many of them didn't get out while the masses fled in the past 20-30 years to other suburbs in STL and surrounding counties.

[itchypickle]

Now the black state senator went on camera and called the governor a coward for not coming to Ferguson faster, the 'black community papers' are calling him the reincarnation of Bama's George Wallace from segregation days......ironic part is in 2012 he won reelection in Mizzou with wait for it....92% of the black vote and is a Democrat.....but now because Sharpton and Jackson come to town and tell the people he is white he cant be trusted.....now his entire political career is on trial from this current nonsense.

Unreal.

[Kermit]

The convenience store that Mike Brown robbed was broken into and looted last night.

About 1:30 a.m., another confrontation took place, with protesters screaming at police. Some in the crowd broke from the ranks and began looting the convenience store allegedly robbed by the teenager shortly before he was shot and killed, says Addo.

[Kermit]

The people seem to be outraged that the surveillance video was made public, but it seems to me that it is a kind of a crucial piece of evidence considering that it happened right before he got shot, because it shows an aggressive behavior that disputes the characterization that he was labeled with all week which is something that was driving everyone into a frenzy in the first place.

[Ted Sheckler]

I've lived in STL for 30 years. I never go up there unless absolutely necessary. At this point I don't think it's the residents of Ferguson/Florrissant doing this at all, but north STL and North County STL are full of ghetto towns with people who have nothing better to do and no sense of prosperity.

I feel bad for the residents of Ferguson. They are not all bad. Unfortunately many of them didn't get out while the masses fled in the past 20-30 years to other suburbs in STL and surrounding counties.

That makes more sense. But I have to believe that some of the people in Ferguson are joining in. I went to st Louis to buy a car about 10 years back, went to a waffle house at 2am on our way out...I felt like we made the wrong decision stopping there. I don't think after paying the check I walked thru a parking lot faster. Sounds like I'm a racist for saying that! Also been down there for the Mardi gras but everything seemed fine there

[Ted Sheckler]

The people seem to be outraged that the surveillance video was made public, but it seems to me that it is a kind of a crucial piece of evidence considering that it happened right before he got shot, because it shows an aggressive behavior that disputes the characterization that he was labeled with all week which is something that was driving everyone into a frenzy in the first place.

To be honest if you didn't label him as a gentle giant and scared of guns and all that...you'd instantly be hit with the racist card....now that more facts are out, it's ok to say he wasn't. But it was fair to say that the original story didn't add up that a cop would just shoot a guy for walking in the street. Gotta be pretty blind to think that was actually what happened.

Racist vs realist...of course people will say all realist are racists though

[hostile takeover]

Yeah, I may have slipped when I said 'at all'. It looks like you caught the point.

Mardi Gras is a blast in STL. Hundreds of thousands of people. All having fun. But most don't stick around at night. They go back to their 'safe' suburbia locales.

[itchypickle]

The convenience store that Mike Brown robbed was broken into and looted last night.

About 1:30 a.m., another confrontation took place, with protesters screaming at police. Some in the crowd broke from the ranks and began looting the convenience store allegedly robbed by the teenager shortly before he was shot and killed, says Addo.

The QT store that got burned and looted the first night had spray painted on the walls 'snitches get stitches' so guessing the dumbasses thought it was the store that got robbed and called police leading to the shooting. Now that they see it was this other liquor store they took it out on them. So all the people who are saying 'we just want to be friends with police' are the same usual crowd that makes the job difficult in the community. Rule #1 in that culture, don't talk to 5-0 when there is a shooting or robbery but if the cops then cant find the criminal, the people say 'lazy racist police dont do their jobs'

[Kermit]

I did read that protestors were trying to stop people from looting. From what I seen in some videos, many seemed as shocked as the rest of us when it was happening.