What the Hell is going on in Ferguson, Missouri?

[itchypickle]

The stuff you're babbling about has nothing to do with Michael Brown being murdered by a police officer. His PARENTS notice the S to make that plural, were there within 5 minutes of him being murdered. They might still be together for all I know. Either way it's irrelevant because I can show you Missy and Becky x 1000000 online who are white but forget the concept of them being a parent.

I think the arrest of the white couple in Oregon this week who were on the Marshals most wanted list for adopting children only to torture and maim them is bigger news than this Ferguson thing minus the large protests and overblown drama its created personally. Hardly anyone is hearing about it. I wish THEY would have fought with the police

[shari91]

When in the world did I personally attack you? I asked you a question, since you don't believe a family is important. We disagree there. You seemed to think that most families the mother is just popping pills and sipping wine all day, so of course I asked if you watch alot of real housewives, since thats what they probably do.

I may be jaded, because of my story above, but that's how I see it.

Maybe I should just impregnate my wife and divorce her and leave her with 3 kids and they'll all be better off.

Show me when I said "family wasn't important". Right after you show me the proof that the other dude was a child molester.

You're a troll. I don't care what you see or how you see it but at least be factual ffs. And yeah, leave your wife because if this is any indication of your true personality you're a sick, delusional fukk. Show receipts next time.

[jtoler]

I think the arrest of the white couple in Oregon this week who were on the Marshals most wanted list for adopting children only to torture and maim them.

Wow that is horrible.

[Ted Sheckler]

lol. I don't even know how to respond anymore.

You said it's a nice town.
I said it's not necessarily family friendly (demographics)
Then you started in on how a neighborhood full of single mothers don't make it bad.
I simply say neighborhoods with both parents are more than likely better than neighborhoods where mother just gets knocked up.

That's how we got on the family talk. Yes Brown had both parents there. Of course both parents are going to be there when their son gets murdered and have a chance to be on TV.

So you can call me a racist I'll come out and say it again.
Single mother households aren't as good as households with both parents.
Single black mothers in a neighborhood with father figures in a third of the houses, probably won't be producing the greatest of kids.
And well...we got mike brown growing up doing what kids do. But hey he may of had both parents in his house, and we all know how good that turned out.

[StackinGreen]

Shari, while I'm sad that anyone dies in such a manner, I'm consistently confounded by the "I know the answer already and the why" which you come across as suggesting. The fact is that we don't know the facts and the other fact is, if you know who you are in a given situation and act with common sense, nothing happens to anyone. Unless you are accusing this police officer of outright pre-meditated murder, which I would prefer you just come out and say if you feel that way, know that the problem on both sides here is that people don't use common sense and even worse, those WITHOUT the guns have to strut with all this crazy bravado instead of just ... being smart and living.

[Ted Sheckler]

Wow...Just like yesterday, the time flies having fun with this non-important story. People just getting riled up for nothing.

The only thing I believe of what I said, was 2 parents are better than 1. And that this kid got what he deserved....hehehehe jk

[brainfreeze]

Even the family and Darryl Parks at the press conference from 3:30pm CST are playing damage control now...said expect lots of 'unflattering things' to come out on Brown's personality and temper. I don't think it's character assassination per se since the family and grandfather has been on with the narrative that he was so sweet, gentle, was scared of guns and never violent....now that the other stories are coming out, the attorney says this afternoon 'nobody is perfect, we've never said he hasn't done anything bad 'in his past'". This all plays into whether or not the fight was as described by one side or the other...remember initially they said there was NO fight, then it was brief, then it was a tug of war....same as the robbery going from shoplifting candy, to one pack of cigars, to the video showing him pushing the owner and it being a $50 amount of items....so many stories at play here...sucks its being tried in the media and not court.

good post

[itchypickle]

Wow that is horrible.

http://www.clarionledger.com/story/news/2014/08/13/barretos-apprehended-oregon/14002819/

Sick motherfukkers....duct taped toddlers to a bed and beat them in the head etc....literally turned my stomach reading that.

[brainfreeze]

I'm with ya there Ted except I add God to it. 1 women 1 man and child or children with faith in Gods word will prosper...my belief.

[shari91]

Shari, while I'm sad that anyone dies in such a manner, I'm consistently confounded by the "I know the answer already and the why" which you come across as suggesting. The fact is t[HTML]hat we don't know the facts and the other fact is, if you know who you are in a given situation and act with common sense, nothing happens to anyone. Unless you are accusing this police officer of outright pre-meditated murder, which I would prefer you just come out and say if you feel that way, know that the problem on both sides here is that people don't use common sense and even worse, those WITHOUT the guns have to strut with all this crazy bravado instead of just ... being smart and living.

1. I've never said "I know the answer and I know why" I've consistently said that I've talked to many people who live in Ferguson just like everyone else can attempt to.


2. You're right in that no sane person accepts why "anyoe dies in such a manner".

3. The facts are available on social media and being retweeted and responded to by your favourite supposed "news" station, whether you're left or right. Most knew 5 days ago on SM that they'd tried to steal cigars. Everyone saw days ago the vid of how they didn't cover his body "immediately" like the Chief said.

4. Yes I am accusing this invisible cop who isn't a member of the Ferg Police force despite the Chief saying a few days ago that he was nor is a member of St Louis County.. of murdering someone in cold blood with zero justification to do so.

[recon1]

lol...So you think I'm racist because I said ferguson with their 30% marriage and 70% black neighborhood, isn't exactly the most family friendly place? Just because I consider family friendly neighborhoods more of the families that have both parents still there. geez.

Wow. Some people really are blind.

LOL, you must not be from the states and just sit back and watch the real housewives....Great perspective on marriage. Are you married by any chance?

She's an idiot who moved to Australia from the US. claims they have more freedom in Aussie since they took the guns away from the citizens. She's not worth the time or day.

[itchypickle]

good post

Soon as I posted that, finished up the presser and shook my head, been hearing all day how credible the witnesses were when they said Brown was running away and when shot he spun with his hands in the air, still standing, and the officer fired until he dropped. Now at this family presser the cousin steps to the podium with the family attorney and says Brown went to his knees to surrender, then raised his hands in the air begging not to be shot....he cousin then knelt down on camera to play it out....think they are doing more harm than good muddying the waters giving plenty of reasonable doubt. Funny Parks stated as well how they wanted transparency...the police need to tell everything...then when he was asked to release things or comment on ongoing evidence he says 'we arent going to get into that, private, maybe at a later date"

[Kermit]

All people need to know are a few things.

1.) Was he shot in the back

2.) If he was struggling for the Cop's gun and it went of, he would have powder burns on his hand(s)

3.) This cop was supposedly punched in the face several times. I am more than certain that photos were taken of these injuries. If they are present, the world needs to see them.

[recon1]

All people need to know are a few things.

1.) Was he shot in the back

2.) If he was struggling for the Cop's gun and it went of, he would have powder burns on his hand(s)

3.) This cop was supposedly punched in the face several times. I am more than certain that photos were taken of these injuries. If they are present, the world needs to see them.

Not necessarily on #2

[Kermit]

Not necessarily on #2

Yeah, I know, but if it was present, it would go coincide with the cop's story.

the key is if he was shot in the back. The witnesses all said he was.

[recon1]

Yeah, I know, but if it was present, it would go coincide with the cop's story.

the key is if he was shot in the back. The witnesses all said he was.

I understand and agree that the gun powder residue test should be done on both, but just saying it doesn't mean suspect wasn't going for the gun.
Also, if suspect was shot in back does not mean the deceased was still not the aggressor. Things happen in a tussle.

[Kermit]

I understand and agree that the gun powder residue test should be done on both, but just saying it doesn't mean suspect wasn't going for the gun.
Also, if suspect was shot in back does not mean the deceased was still not the aggressor. Things happen in a tussle.

According to the police, the officer claimed he didn't shoot him in the back.

I know there are a lot of variables with this, but if any of these are proven(especially the powder burns) it will greatly harm the other's story.

Of course they could have been struggling for the gun and if it did go off and residue may be on Brown's hands and he may have still been shot in the back.

[Kermit]

I am mostly interested in seeing the cop's injuries.

[itchypickle]

I am mostly interested in seeing the cop's injuries.

this.....and regarding the shot fired from inside the car, heard someone say today rounds went through the door of the vehicle...that will be clear with pics once released. And again, this first shot story has had three or more stories already, from being fired through the door...from inside the car with Brown running away....in brown's arm as he struggled with the Officer at close range.....gets crazier by the hour

[Kermit]

Wow. I didn't even hear anything about this. Just seen a link on Facebook.

Guy got shot for pulling his pants up. Just goes to show you that no one of any race is safe if you don't comply.

[itchypickle]

Just for insight into accuracy of 'eyewitness accounts' watch this 10 second clip of a police shooting in Chicago and tell us what you'd say happened to the suspect if you had to explain the cops actions?

[teaserpleaser]

Just for insight into accuracy of 'eyewitness accounts' watch this 10 second clip of a police shooting in Chicago and tell us what you'd say happened to the suspect if you had to explain the cops actions?

am I not seeing that right or was the guy in the process of putting the gun down and coming back up without the gun when the officer yelled gun gun and they shot him did he have another gun?

[Kermit]

Just for insight into accuracy of 'eyewitness accounts' watch this 10 second clip of a police shooting in Chicago and tell us what you'd say happened to the suspect if you had to explain the cops actions?

Guy was pulling a gun from his back pocket. You could hear the cop behind him say "Gun" It's still in his right hand when he hits the ground.

Is this a real video? Like was it real or dramatized?

[teaserpleaser]

he had what looks to be another gun in his hand when he fell ....shitty video quality

[itchypickle]

am I not seeing that right or was the guy in the process of putting the gun down and coming back up without the gun when the officer yelled gun gun and they shot him did he have another gun?

Guy had a pistol in back right pocket...pause video as he hits ground and you can see it in his hand then...so basically he was complying putting the rifle down and sneaking the pistol out to shoot the cop when backup around the corner spotted it and dropped him. All of that in 9 seconds.....shows context of split second decisions made that could have been told a million ways had it been seen by someone walking by.....think the video was from a videographer doing ride alongs in Chicago 2 years or so ago. Its been used as a training aid to police across the country.

[Kermit]

So that video is real then?

[teaserpleaser]

doesn't help that the cop walks into the line of sight so you cant see purps hand or the gun you can only see if for a brief second or two that and the shitty fuzzy quality makes it tough to see I had to rewatch it a few times I figured he had another gun since they shot him putting down that rifle.

[itchypickle]

So that video is real then?

First time it was shown to me back in the winter I was told it was, can't 100% verify but haven't heard otherwise. Was lumped in with several videos at the time but i was thinking of this listening to the news in Ferguson today when the witnesses were giving all their accounts and about how the officer may have felt in those few seconds during the contact with Dorian and Mike B and figured Id post it. Think it was Lisa Bloom talking about why didn't the officer think ti do this, that why didn't he ask this or that....hindsight deal.

[itchypickle]

doesn't help that the cop walks into the line of sight so you cant see purps hand or the gun you can only see if for a brief second or two that and the shitty fuzzy quality makes it tough to see I had to rewatch it a few times I figured he had another gun since they shot him putting down that rifle.

Yea not the best quality...if you just watch it and not think much of it, looks like dude is setting the rifle down and the cop around the corner walked up and just blasted him.....but then you see the different vantage point and think to go back and see....dont have that benefit live though.

[itchypickle]

Now the media is saying the Ferguson PD needs to stop holding press conferences or at least wait until everything is in order before they give out more information that can change with new information......no shitt people. Cant have it both ways, beg and plead for info and cry cover up if everything isnt wrapped up tightly already...and then when they give what they know...and new stuff comes to light and it changes....cry foul then too.

The Prosecutor, Mcculloch, is being chastised now and calling for him to step aside because he might be biased for the police since he's a whitey....as if calling for a black prosecutor based on race alone isn't biased. This dude has been a prosecutor for 23 years and has done just fine for that long but NOW Ben Crump comes to town and wants to change things....cartoon comedy time now boys.

[Chi_archie]

Shari! congrats on the Marriage!!

[KingJD31]

Wow you must be pretty special talking to bunch of people from ferguson. I can see it now talking to bunch of strangers in like a chat room, youre not special stop acting like it

1. I've never said "I know the answer and I know why" I've consistently said that I've talked to many people who live in Ferguson just like everyone else can attempt to.


2. You're right in that no sane person accepts why "anyoe dies in such a manner".

3. The facts are available on social media and being retweeted and responded to by your favourite supposed "news" station, whether you're left or right. Most knew 5 days ago on SM that they'd tried to steal cigars. Everyone saw days ago the vid of how they didn't cover his body "immediately" like the Chief said.

4. Yes I am accusing this invisible cop who isn't a member of the Ferg Police force despite the Chief saying a few days ago that he was nor is a member of St Louis County.. of murdering someone in cold blood with zero justification to do so.

[tony_come]

If Obama had a son

He would look like this punk

[Kermit]

Just seen this pic. His buddy Dorian is in the background.

[ByeShea]

It's starting to feel like people that just jump in a thread and pick slivers of somebody's post and try and attack people with pictures of a young girls avatar (which screams loser) might be booger eating loser who live in their mothers basement retard...did somebody get their feelings hurt?

It's starting to feel like the someone who spent 6 hours today discussing a news story on a messageboard is you and not me.