GOD

[raydog]

why didnt god just cast disease on humans instead of fukking with the Ark and animals and the whole flood dealio? or kill off mankind (except for moses and his family) some other way? this is where believers become too gullible and way too caught up in bible bullshit... why in the world did God need to go through so much? he is god, right? he took a simple task and turned it into something that appears to have require a ton of work, made the whole scenario completely unbelievable, not to mention impossible and leave so many questions unanswered... God, you arent a very smart fella

[muldoon]

[Itsamazing777]

Read this then listen to the whole song. It can even mean a friend, instead of God. I hope it blesses someone.

[Itsamazing777]

[raydog]

i would give anything to hear a "fukk you god... you suck... you hate us" rant out of someone on the losing team tomorrow

[Swaggy P]

The Church does spend a lot of money, every day of every year, by running homeless and women's shelters, clinics, soup kitchens, schools, hospitals, rehab facilities and halfway houses all over the world. In fact, all together the Catholic Church is the largest charitable organization in the world, tending to people in zones of desperate poverty and civil strife, often at risk to life and limb. And she does it without a lot of bureaucracy, keeping the home offices small as possible, letting things be done at the local level whenever she can.


The bottom line: The Catholic Church is neither "rich" nor "poor". Both words are inappropriate — great for Church-bashing rhetoric but lousy for analysis. Some of her many thousands of entities are doing well; some, like the Vatican, often run in the red. Overall, though, they're doing a helluva lot more for the poor, the homeless, the sick and the lost than the legions of petty-minded fools who scream about the Church being "rich".

Sorry to break it to you but the catholic church is in rapid decline and is an irrelevant institution in this day an age of scientific progress. Except for third countries in South America and the Phillipines which are doing ok, the religion is in shambles and its collapse is imminent. Its just a shell of what it used to be and nobody really gives a shit about it anymore in western countries.

[Itsamazing777]

There are a lot of of other types of Christians than Cathlolics too remember.

[recon1]

Thought for the day. Source: King james bible.

Isaiah 5:20King James Version (KJV)

20 Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!

To those who of you who are full-filling this prophecy, i thank you and will pray that you repent

[muldoon]

There are a lot of of other types of Christians than Cathlolics too remember.

Like the Westboro Baptist folks?

[raydog]

haha.. yeah, he says that like the other god fearing religions are a lot less fukked up

[Itsamazing777]

Like the Westboro Baptist folks?

That clearly has nothing to do with this. Everyone knows that's not true Religion. Don't be silly now!

[muldoon]

That clearly has nothing to do with this. Everyone knows that's not true Religion. Don't be silly now!

I don't know dude. They seem to know scripture pretty well.

[raydog]

im not one of them, but its not uncommon for atheist/agnostic to know a lot more scripture than the christian/s they are debating with...

[recon1]

im not one of them, but its not uncommon for atheist/agnostic to know a lot more scripture than the christian/s they are debating with...

"real Christians" do not debate. Scripture tells us not to. We just spread the word. Agnostics and atheist debate.

[muldoon]

"real Christians" do not debate. Scripture tells us not to. We just spread the word. Agnostics and atheist debate.

So which are you? Obviously not Xian.

[raydog]

lolz.. and yet Dawkins, scholars and scientists continue to destroy the bible and gods sheep on a daily basis in these "non debates" .. i guess they just go and pray to god for debating and all is good...
scripture you guys need to stop and actually read some of that utterly childish nonsense instead of picking and choosing certain scripture to defend your stances ... understanding the definition of a Fable would do christians some good too...

[brainfreeze]

im not one of them, but its not uncommon for atheist/agnostic to know a lot more scripture than the christian/s they are debating with...

. 13Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand. 14And in them is fulfilled the prophecy of Esaias, which saith, By hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; and seeing ye shall see, and shall not perceive:

[recon1]

So which are you? Obviously not Xian.

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Only thing i should clarify is my use of the word debate and include that debates shouldn't be between Christians.

Christians not debating the lost (such as yourself) is supported by some scripture. We (believers) state the facts as the bible illustrates and you debate for yourself.

Not sure why you took a screenshot of past post by me, if you're attempt was to make a point, that point is about as useful as on a boar hog.

Every-time i read a post by you, it reminds me of an old Ronald Reagan quote. Now, i don't know if you're a Liberal or not but here is the quote.

“It isn't so much that liberals are ignorant. It's just that they know so many things that aren't so.”

You should use that under you're avatar.

[muldoon]

Only thing i should clarify is my use of the word debate and include that debates shouldn't be between Christians.

Christians not debating the lost (such as yourself) is supported by some scripture. We (believers) state the facts as the bible illustrates and you debate for yourself.


You should use that under you're avatar.

You should never use "facts" and "bible" in the same sentence.

[raydog]

in other news, obama should never comment or give his ignorant opinions about god/religions/christian history again... what a fukking moron

[gauchojake]

guys I changed my mind

[raydog]

guys I changed my mind

finally on the right side of a backdoor cover? that will do it

[Swaggy P]

. 13Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand. 14And in them is fulfilled the prophecy of Esaias, which saith, By hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; and seeing ye shall see, and shall not perceive:

There ain't no god bruh. You are fooling yourself big time and after pages and pages of your proselytizing you haven't convinced one singe person. Not one.

[recon1]

There ain't no god bruh. You are fooling yourself big time and after pages and pages of your proselytizing you haven't convinced one singe person. Not one.

Well, It's like this genius, you say Brainfreeze did not convince anybody of God, i don't think anyone else convinced anybody to the contrary.

[brainfreeze]

Well, It's like this genius, you say Brainfreeze did not convince anybody of God, i don't think anyone else convinced anybody to the contrary.

Why bother recon, it's ridiculous to think he knows what's going on in the hearts and minds of many.

Oh yea swaggy, I'm not here to convince you or anyone... That's Gods work, I just speak the truth like a doorman or a servant... God will feed

Luke 4:4
And Jesus answered him, saying, It is written, That man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word of God.

[Swaggy P]

Well, It's like this genius, you say Brainfreeze did not convince anybody of God, i don't think anyone else convinced anybody to the contrary.

If you look at the bigger picture, atheists are winning and convincing Christians out of their faith at an overwhelming rate. Scientists such as Richard Dawkins with their best selling books and speeches are doing great damage. It will take some more time but eventually Christianity will be seen as a useless fairy tale just like any other story from a children's book by the majority.

[Swaggy P]

Why bother recon, it's ridiculous to think he knows what's going on in the hearts and minds of many.

Oh yea swaggy, I'm not here to convince you or anyone... That's Gods work, I just speak the truth like a doorman or a servant... God will feed

Then the christian god is doing a very shitty job or is just an evil maniac who wants the billions of muslims, hindus, buddhists to burn in hell for all of eternity. What a total douchebag your god is.

[MoMoneyMoVaughn]

90 years of this bullshit guys. Please no more.

[brainfreeze]

If you look at the bigger picture, atheists are winning and convincing Christians out of their faith at an overwhelming rate. Scientists such as Richard Dawkins with their best selling books and speeches are doing great damage. It will take some more time but eventually Christianity will be seen as a useless fairy tale just like any other story from a children's book by the majority.

Already proven otherwise a few pages back, top atheist have become christian...

[brainfreeze]

Then the christian god is doing a very shitty job or is just an evil maniac who wants the billions of muslims, hindus, buddhists to burn in hell for all of eternity. What a total douchebag your god is.

Muslims think they are Ishmaelite's, http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ishmaelites
God chose Isaac that the tribes may come through Abraham through Isaac not Ishmael ... It's just the way it is, and now their fathers, fathers make them worship a false god through submission, they don't have any choice in the matter, they could be grafted in to the new covenant as any christian is, but most don't get the privilege to choose... As for hindu, buddahs, and yogis ... Everyone has a choice, not in marriage obviously for hindus, but it would be very hard to live a practical christian life in a place like that, but there are little villages in India, Africa, and around the four corners of the world, who not only believe but would give their life for what they believe ... Happens everyday

I think He's doing exactly what He said He would do...

Genesis 12:1

1Now the LORD said to Abram, "Go forth from your country, And from your relatives And from your father's house, To the land which I will show you; 2And I will make you a great nation, And I will bless you, And make your name great; And so you shall be a blessing; 3And I will bless those who bless you, And the one who curses you I will curse. And in you all the families of the earth will be blessed.

Israel...

[raydog]

Already proven otherwise a few pages back, top atheist have become christian...

i must have missed this... but its inaccurate, nonetheless ... the top atheists are world renown scientists and biologists... and none are converting to christianity

if you were talking about deceased, anthony flew, who turned to god a dozen years ago, he was merely a philosophy guy ... one with an opinion like yours and mine... ill trust the guys who are actually pulling facts out of science than others who merely guess about the subject

[brainfreeze]

i must have missed this... but its inaccurate, nonetheless ... the top atheists are world renown scientists and biologists... and none are converting to christianity

if you were talking about deceased, anthony flew, who turned to god a dozen years ago, he was merely a philosophy guy ... one with an opinion like yours and mine... ill trust the guys who are actually pulling facts out of science than others who merely guess about the subject

There's plenty...

http://www.creationists.org/former-evoltionists-who-became-young-earth-creation-scientists.html

http://famous101.com/famous-atheists-turned-christian

https://matthew2262.wordpress.com/2011/08/12/famous-ex-atheistsagnostics/

[brainfreeze]

I personally like this one...

Alister McGrath (1953-_)

McGrath is a theologian, apologist and scientist, holding a PhD in Molecular Biophysics and Doctor of Divinity from Oxford. A former atheist, he has now become an outspoken Christian writing the anti-atheism book The Twilight of Atheism, but is most notably known for his book The Dawkins Delusion? A formal response to famed atheist Richard Dawkin’s book The God Delusion. On an interesting side note, Dawkin’s himself personally interviewed McGrath for the television documentary The Root of All Evil?, but McGrath’s entire interview was not included in the final cut.

Quote: “Atheism, I began to realize, rested on a less-than-satisfactory evidential basis. The arguments that had once seemed bold, decisive, and conclusive increasingly turned out to be circular, tentative, and uncertain.”

[raydog]

lolz... you need to find some sources that are up to date with the scientific times... authors, actors, philosophers who are long dead or have done nothing of real credit in the field, have no reason to even be mentioned and again, just have a novice opinion... there are few who are even qualified to voice an opinion.. but thats okay, there will always be those who change their minds.. both ways

for me, i have actually done some reading over the last month or so... and ill never change my mind as the bible seems further and further from the realm of reality than ever... i cant believe much from the bible...its irrational and there is too much that is obviously made up, imo ... because of that, since i cant believe it all, i cant believe ... i live in the real world , where real games of chance occur and where prayers are merely another way of saying im thinking about you... only a complete fool expects prayers of importance to be answered and the idea of living for such an unproven and inhumane god is out of the question for me...

but ill still have questions, bf... stick around...i do enjoy the thread and no matter how i feel about the idea of a god, i do appreciate your love for him/it and no matter if they are rational or irrational, i appreciate your efforts to give answers...

[rkelly110]

Brain freeze, these deniers won't believe a word you say until the Lord himself grabs them by the throat and
bitch slaps them silly.