Originally posted by High3rEl3m3nt
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Ill make it easier........ prove I have anything to do with a tout service ill leave for life.... if you cant you leave for a year...Comment -
check again...most are "saints." Also check the "best of Sbr," which could help noobs...with link to SBR--i do not make one cent. Currently, it is very popular:
Ganchrow "The Gambling Saint." Ganchrow created many tools for SBR, including an
excel template chalk full of useful gambling functions (note: this is not an Excel sheet).
Ganchrow also took the time to write very detailed articles, such as his two part series on
the Kelly Criterion.
Simple VBA Sports Betting Functions Template for Excel
A Quantitative Introduction to the Kelly Criterion (pt.1) (pt.2)
An Introduction to Expectations and Theoretical Hold
An Introduction to Betting Lines and Percentages
Market Efficienty and Bayesian Probability Estimation via the Beta Distribution
Overbets and Line Changes--A Kelly Excel Sheet
Using Kelly to Determine Optimal Hedging Strategy
A Better Way to Measure Handicapper Success
Wrecktangle Opens a Discussion on Kelly Criterion
Kelly is not a good BR management system
Justin7 Offers a Few Pointers on a NBA Model
http://forum.sbrforum.com/handicappe...-building.html
Data and Justin7 Discussion
http://forum.sbrforum.com/handicappe...-question.html
Data vs. Data. vs. Justin7: A Discussion Blooms
http://forum.sbrforum.com/handicappe...-modeling.html
Soccer 3 Way Lines Discussion: How to Calculate a Book's Edge
http://forum.sbrforum.com/handicappe...cer-lines.htmlComment -
I'm not taking sides-- but fuk man-- Dawg went hard for Pinny to get back on here.
Shari pretty much spelled it out for him that Pinny was creating a client base.
And Dawg's reaction, "why do you guys even care?"
It's odd- and makes absolutely no fuking sense. Dawg sells SBR on the idea that all Pinny wants to do is post among buddies----and either Pinny blatantly lied to Dawg about his intentions, or Dawg knew what the game was.Comment -
Why prove...I'll just continue to let your actions do all the proving that's needed. Do you know how many times you emailed me over pinny? Take a guess..Originally posted by firedawgComment -
I was sleeping when this all went down, I am anti tout, I have talked to Pinny here and there but he never talks about his service. I have no idea nor do I care. If he did not do anything he will be back , it might of been a (32-SD) ban..fighting with other posters. I have to make some calls later. Dawg is no tout, he is just a solid poster and a friend of Pinny.Comment -
like I said you cant prove something that is not true... take care jrOriginally posted by High3rEl3m3ntComment -
jj knowsOriginally posted by jjgoldComment -
SBR should create a best of links to threads for new posters. This is a good idea...having it on SBR would do more good.Originally posted by High3rEl3m3ntComment -
like I said.... I did not agree with everything he did.... how many time do I have to say it? you seem smart enough, but I don't know.... either way.. I gave you two offers.... if not addiosOriginally posted by High3rEl3m3ntComment -
Word on the street is that Pinny told Lou to suck his dikk.
I think we all know that doesn't usually end well.Comment -
Originally posted by High3rEl3m3nt
What about the advisors? I don't wanna names here but you are tracking touts on your website!!
Do you want me to link it from your sorry little website?Comment -
yeah I've seen his site...he tracks good and bad people over there...quiet frankly it's his site and he can do whatever he wants on it, but in terms of his actions here, I've seen nothing but good from him at SBR. Now I'm not saying that accusing Dawg of being a tout without cold hard facts is a good thing. It's not acceptable at all and this whole thing could of been handled a little differently.Originally posted by thunderous
Dawger defended Pinny and it raised some eyebrows. But I personally think Dawger's actions were nothing more than trying to protect his e-pal from getting banned.Comment -
Shari's back! Shari, I understand that we must mind our P's and Q's. But maybe there's something in between an infraction. For instance, if I were to, ohhhh let's say, call you out on some fashion faux pas like that revolting butternut chartreuse nail polish you flaunt to that deep mauve lipstick that went out with the flood you're so fond of.
No that unto itself would not constitute an infraction but perhaps a spanking would be in order? Bottoms up!Comment -
I track touts and saints. I am not hiding behind this.Originally posted by thunderousComment -
Something's off for sure. But at this point I have no reason to believe what I see as I haven't had the chance to go dig deeper yet. This is NOT the firedawg I thought I knew. Never. Which is cool as essentially we're all strangers on here for the most part other than those of us who have met face to face. But there's definitely more to this than what I'm seeing right now. Sucks having to play catch up and trawl through posts and correspondence after the fact as I feel so behind. But firedawg knows how SBR works. If he was messing around, I think he's actually honourable enough to leave on his own before it's uncovered. If not, then I assume it'll all be cool.Originally posted by SamDiamond
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Done as a third party, unbiased tracking system. Tracking does not mean flogging.Originally posted by thunderous
It is quite obvious that he is providing a service to people at no personal gain to himself.
Just because you keep track of what a politician does, doesn't mean you are campaigning for him....just because you post that the Pittsburgh Pens are first in the East doesn't mean you are saying you love them and just because you post somebodies record doesn't mean that you are encouraging anyone to use them.
And frankly for me....it makes life easier than ever.Comment -
Wow... Leave it to Shari
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Higher all you try to do is turn speculation into facts by twisting peoples words around. You're nothing but a plague to this forum.Comment -
Lol. And another ghost rears it's ugly head.Originally posted by Ber304Comment -
ghosting since 2010Originally posted by Dollars2Donuts
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Look at this guy....Originally posted by Ber304
6 posts-- 5 of them in Pinny's thread-- the other here trashing Higher.
Be smarter people.Comment -
Originally posted by Russian Rocket
ghosting since 2010
General info... Admin/Mods/Paid Posters all have several Nics/Handles. Some lay dormant some are used daily -- Just the way it isComment -
No one does anything for freeOriginally posted by Dollars2Donuts
Sure he tracks "saints" like you but he also tracks touts and their "private plays".
And then he comes here on and says he wants this or this poster to be banned because they are touts??
think about it why would someone create a website and then go through all the hard work of tracking plays, lines, time stamps etc for free?
He might claim its a free service but it's not....Comment -
Forum business is ugly at times
Lots of research is going on behind the scenes
Dawg just post and do your thing
Leave the forum business to the administratorsComment -
I actually think it's someone who has shelled out for those picks. Just based on his posting history alone. If it's a ghost of Pinny it's a rather sad one.Originally posted by Dollars2Donuts
And so when people come running back to SBR begging for their membership fee and/or losses back as they do every. single. f'n. time a tout manages to sneak through on here... I hope people understand when SBR says sorry but you're out of luck. Every damn time people come begging for help recovering their cash - some even fill out the proper SBR Sportsbook complaint forms - and it's like wtf did you expect? The people who pay for these packages have no concept of how touts work or more importantly, variance. So when their dude who was on a 18-2 streak and convinced them to spend $200 on a package suddenly starts to lose, they believe SBR can somehow get their money back. One of a multitude of reasons why that rubbish isn't allowed here.
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Sammy do you think I was born yesterday? Looking for an honest answer hereOriginally posted by Sam OdomComment -
Originally posted by Russian Rocket
Your 'Join Date' = 09-02-12Comment -
how can I be a paid posterjj?
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Wow. I had no idea people asked SBR to try and recover money they paid to touts. Lol. That's insane.
A few years ago I made the mistake of trying a few services. I won't lie about it. The thought of easy money is....well awesome! It just doesn't exist. They were terrible and I consistently was better....and I wised up. But I certainly never asked for my money back....
InsaneComment -
Originally posted by firedawg
how can I be a paid posterjj?
Move to TexasComment -
Most people won't get this, and I understand, but I do not believe I can track anyone if they pay me. I have taken it to the extreme and won't even feature an ad on my site because I don't want to be in a compromising situation. Essentially, I can't monitor a hand that would feed me--just my personal take.Originally posted by thunderousNo one does anything for free Sure he tracks "saints" like you but he also tracks touts and their "private plays".
And then he comes here on and says he wants this or this poster to be banned because they are touts??
think about it why would someone create a website and then go through all the hard work of tracking plays, lines, time stamps etc for free?
He might claim its a free service but it's not....Comment -
High3rEl3m3nt
SOS will debut soon... Will you track ?Comment -
As a saint?Originally posted by Sam OdomComment -
Shari....
JJ just pm'd me and said for $400 he could guarantee me winners in horses and nba. He also wants to sell some furniture pieces, and a "like new convection oven" ??
Is this allowed???
Check my pm's. It's all right there.Comment -
The forum was getting a little out of control
I actually knew 2 guys here selling ID cards so the younger posters here can get into bars and buy cigarettes
Lou shut it down
Lt profits more busy giving us the gambling daily
Sbr beefed up forum security with a top flight moderator with extensive knowledge in ip manipulation, high end back end knowledge of fiber optics security , firewall tasking , tout control, sportsbook security and kyc expert.Comment