WARNING: Stricter Moderation Has Begun

[thunderous]

Listen Firedawg....I have no issue with you and I am sure you have none with me.....let's keep it that way, ok?

ALl I stated was the truth. He is basically running a 'watchdog' service.....making sure what people state and what they post is the truth. There is nothing wrong with what he is doing...and if you think about it, truly think about it in an unbiased way.....I am sure you will see it that way too....

I know you are having issues with him, but it certainly isn't about what he does on his website....it is because he is calling you ou about other shit....that aside what he does is useful to SOME people.

Don't you think its odd that until a few months ago when things were all right between him and Pinny it was okay to track his "off the forum" plays and now all of a sudden he is this great reporter who wants to expose a tout and run him off SBR??

[vividjohn45]

U can ban me right now. Go fuk urselfs fools

[thunderous]

OK.....so please point out to me one time, amongst my 2000 posted plays that I have ever given any indication that I am or that I would EVER be a tout.

You are being a complete and utter imbecile....have a problem with the guy, but what he does on his site is not the issue.

I replied your question in another post....No I don't have any issues with you and no I don't think for a second that you would turn in to a tout. My problem is that he can track the guy (pinny) knowing he is a tout and then at the same time wants to get rid of him from SBR because he is tout?
That is the part I don't get...

[Dollars2Donuts]

Don't you think its odd that until a few months ago when things were all right between him and Pinny it was okay to track his "off the forum" plays and now all of a sudden he is this great reporter who wants to expose a tout and run him off SBR??

Thunderous....maybe you don't get what I am saying.....

IIII DDDOOONNN'''TTTT CCAARREEE

You people can have your silly little spats.....all I was saying is that his service is valuable. I don't give a shit if people want to sell their picks, as long as I don't have to notice ads all over the goddamn site I couldn't give a shit.

[Russian Rocket]

this fukking thread

[firedawg]

this fukking thread

[Dollars2Donuts]

I replied your question in another post....No I don't have any issues with you and no I don't think for a second that you would turn in to a tout. My problem is that he can track the guy (pinny) knowing he is a tout and then at the same time wants to get rid of him from SBR because he is tout?
That is the part I don't get...

And why do you care? I certainly don't.

Maybe he thought Pinny was like me and posting picks for free....maybe he got mad because Pinny f'ed with lines that he knew weren't true and now he is being vindictive....maybe he got tired on Pinny using the website to sell his picks....again....I don't care.....it doesn't change the fact that what he is doing in posting people's plays, doesn't hurt anyone.....

[thunderous]

OK.....so please point out to me one time, amongst my 2000 posted plays that I have ever given any indication that I am or that I would EVER be a tout.

You are being a complete and utter imbecile....have a problem with the guy, but what he does on his site is not the issue.

You must have been on his site...seen other touts (along with guys like you who are not touts) being tracked?
Why is he tracking touts if he disapproves of em? He is basically validating those guys and saying their numbers are accurate so if anyone wants to buy packages here is a clean n honest record. On one hand he is helping them and then turns around and comes here on SBR saying he is helping SBR get rid of touts??

[thunderous]

And why do you care? I certainly don't.

Maybe he thought Pinny was like me and posting picks for free....maybe he got mad because Pinny f'ed with lines that he knew weren't true and now he is being vindictive....maybe he got tired on Pinny using the website to sell his picks....again....I don't care.....it doesn't change the fact that what he is doing in posting people's plays, doesn't hurt anyone.....

Oh he knew all along that Pinny was a tout...ask him

[Dollars2Donuts]

Oh he knew all along that Pinny was a tout...ask him

I honestly give up.....you just don't want to see it. I will not be checking this thread again.

GL tonight everyone

Cheers

[High3rEl3m3nt]

I don't disprove of touts--I would never purchase a tout's plays and part of the point of featuring saints, is that it shows guys on the forums who are just as good.

I do not bash touts who are losing and I do not promote touts who are winning. I just report the numbers and on occassion, grill them in an interview. Pinny is a dishonest tout, who escalated the situation via his subborness to admit his lies and personal attacks. The only time I will mention someone that I am tracking is if they are dishonest, which I did to both brock and pinny.

[High3rEl3m3nt]

Oh he knew all along that Pinny was a tout...ask him

at the time I began tracking pinny, I was not posting on SBR. Yes, I knew he was a tout. I never promoted pinny on SBR or elsewhere and I have never bashed his record during the time I tracked him, or even thereafter--his record. Naturally, touts will want me to make mention when they hit a small streak, but I refuse to do so...it's not my objective. Transparency is my objective and some of the records aren't pretty.

[thenerfcollecter]

I hate touts........... all I ever said was hes not a bad guy....... I do not agree with everything everyone does....... does not mean they are bad people

So you finally admit (after higher and others offered to post evidence and realized you started to look stupid) that your friend was a tout, but then tell everyone "but he wasn't a bad guy!"

pinny and u date or something?

[firedawg]

lmao... dude your lost go back and read thread...im done here.... higher knows im not affiliated with touting.... gl

[High3rEl3m3nt]

lmao... dude your lost go back and read thread...im done here.... higher knows im not affiliated with touting.... gl

Fire is not a tout. Fire is affiliated with a tout.

[jarvol]

Hey JJ - go fukk yourself.

[firedawg]

Fire is not a tout. Fire is affiliated with a tout.

higher you are affiliated as well .... correct?

[High3rEl3m3nt]

higher you are affiliated as well .... correct?

I track them, yes. I keep them at an arms length because I know situations could get messy. You should practice this strategy as well.

[firedawg]

I track them, yes. I keep them at an arms length because I know situations could get messy. You should practice this strategy as well.

fair enough

[BigDeem5]

Firedawg and Smoke are both gamblers that make up bet amounts.

Says nothing about character.

Both will get their feathers ruffled but neither of them bets 50x on this or 440/400 on that. They both are low limit plays $25-$100 bettors. They need e-cred

Both have asked posters I know for $$$, so they aren't flowing in funds.

I can't speak for pinny.

[High3rEl3m3nt]

fair enough

it's why I keep every single email that I have ever received. It's why none of these guys know anything about me, other than my first name. It's why I configured my IP, registered the site to a psuedo name and so on. I have to maintain my distance so I can go to war if needed.

[TxAaron]

Firedawg and Smoke are both gamblers that make up bet amounts.

Says nothing about character.

Both will get their feathers ruffled but neither of them bets 50x on this or 440/400 on that. They both are low limit plays $25-$100 bettors. They need e-cred

Both have asked posters I know for $$$, so they aren't flowing in funds.

I can't speak for pinny.

Deemer, are you a better handicapper than Firedawg? He seems like a big time player.

[firedawg]

Firedawg and Smoke are both gamblers that make up bet amounts.

Says nothing about character.

Both will get their feathers ruffled but neither of them bets 50x on this or 440/400 on that. They both are low limit plays $25-$100 bettors. They need e-cred

Both have asked posters I know for $$$, so they aren't flowing in funds.

I can't speak for pinny.

here comes the lying eggroll.... this site has turned to shit

[firedawg]

Firedawg and Smoke are both gamblers that make up bet amounts.

Says nothing about character.

Both will get their feathers ruffled but neither of them bets 50x on this or 440/400 on that. They both are low limit plays $25-$100 bettors. They need e-cred

Both have asked posters I know for $$$, so they aren't flowing in funds.

I can't speak for pinny.

let me make this simple for you..... have I posted tickets in upwards of /450 dollars? yes or no..... did you stiff acl? yes or no..... can you pick a winner? no

[firedawg]

Deemer, are you a better handicapper than Firedawg? He seems like a big time player.

[jjgold]

Dawg dont even waste your time responding as they are trying to bait you

Winning is not responding

[firedawg]

Dawg dont even waste your time responding as they are trying to bait you

Winning is not responding

agreed... gl jj

[gauchojake]

Shari brings the hits!

[SlowNsteady]

This site is a fuking joke.

[Dollars2Donuts]

higher you are affiliated as well .... correct?

it's why I keep every single email that I have ever received. It's why none of these guys know anything about me, other than my first name. It's why I configured my IP, registered the site to a psuedo name and so on. I have to maintain my distance so I can go to war if needed.

Funny fact......Higher has never even said 'nice week' or 'rough week' to me.....he has never once commented on how I am performing, what he things of my strategies.....I have always been able to tell he wants to distance himself from any sort of talk about sports or sports betting other than the actual numbers. He hasn't even ever commented to me about my volume.

Sometimes I feel bad for him.....yesterday he had to grade 23 wagers for me....I bet on a lot of days I have more plays than everyone else he tracked put together.

The guy is nothing, if not professional/
.

[SamDiamond]

Well this fuking thread has certainly taken a turn or nine.

Deemzy is calling people out, people are challenging one another to contests, JJ is all over the fuking map as usual-- Goldie doesn't know what side he's on.

Entertaining as hell.

[jjgold]

The thing is touts pay money here on some of the different pages
I see adds on home page

SBR is very busy and lots of posters from all over the globe maybe not even intentionally Pinny was building a base for his own site in players talk

[SamDiamond]

The thing is touts pay money here on some of the different pages
I see adds on home page

SBR is very busy and lots of posters from all over the globe maybe not even intentionally Pinny was building a base for his own site in players talk

Is the the mexican-co-op JJ on duty now?

The touts visible-- PAY.

The touts that don't pay-- Get the walking papers.

Seriously Goldie, what's with the retard act? You're eating paint chips again?

[Sam Odom]

JJ , ban that samdiamond fuk...

[High3rEl3m3nt]

The thing is touts pay money here on some of the different pages
I see adds on home page

SBR is very busy and lots of posters from all over the globe maybe not even intentionally Pinny was building a base for his own site in players talk

JJ, what precauations are in place to protect posters from dishonest touts? I can't watch any SBR video without accidentally clicking on an ad and getting spammed. Shouldn't SBR monitor touts' records, regardless of whether they are paying, and ensure that its members aren't being exposed to worst of the worst? Seems like it should be a stipulation along with paying for advertising. Sh*t books can't advertise here and the crummiest of the scum touts shouldn't either!